@@victor.melchorfilm I wonder how it'd be coming to it fresh from a modern day perspective. It can be kinda cheesy but it still looks good! Also where the writer / director of Breaking Bad started out - most of the lead actors from BBC appear in various x-files episodes first
Never watched any of your lighting videos before as I previously just wrote them off as being paid promotions but I actually really enjoyed this. Especially the section at 11:38 where you experimented with the gobo and lighting effects, that was really interesting.
None of them are paid promotions. Some might feature kit sent to me, others I've bought myself. I'd highlight if a video has paid sponsorship. Instead of reviewing the kit, I find it more useful to show it in use, what I can do with it and demonstrate some lighting setups. That way it's not really about the specific gear but the technique of using it.
@@EdProsser Exactly my point and I think style of video works great. However, I’d argue that having kit sent to you is essentially a paid promotion just not monetarily.
@@johnbrowningdp to some degree, but not really. I get tonnes of gear review requests and turn most down. I'm fairly selective over what I accept, usually only things I'd take out on professional shoots, a $300 light doesn't buy my time or opinion and it actually costs me way more to make a video like this in my time than the product is ever worth. I think that's what a lot of people forget. That's why I make a video like this which is more useful rather than pushing the product, you could achieve most of these setups with any spotlight. A paid promotion would involve them having input and approving a video and financially covering the time spent on the production. Just like a client would pay for my time on freelance production work.
Thanks, you are absolutely correct to point this out! But it is sandbagged (!) you can hopefully see it in the beginning of the shot, can't remember if it shows later or not (the shot getting in position is not the final position it lives in). The c-stand used has a horizontally extending front leg (which is the bottom leg) so this is the one that extends out under the weight as it offers stability.
The book/table bounce is an awesome technique that Robert Richardson uses a lot in his work. I especially noticed it in The Hateful Eight and it looks really incredible!
Yeah I thought it'd only look good when the Hollywood pros do it - but I really like it! I think you could easily motivate it with an overhead table light as well
Hey Ed! Thanks for another banger video, your lighting tutorials are really the best. It always feels like you are not necessary "teaching" us in a teacher sort of way but just bringing us along with your journey of experimentation. Question, how does this compare to the Spotlight SE? The zoom feature is awesome but i'm kinda weary that there will be a lost in output.
I'd say it's comparable with the spotlight SE, it's a little smaller and more compact which is cool. In terms of spot light I only have the 19 degree lens to for that not the wider lens, I'd assume that it would be similar in that the tighter spot lens would be brighter and the wider slightly less bright...
Very cool video, that being said if anyone reading this is a newer filmmaker or poor like me, please just get a flashlight and a paper towel tube and a hazer, you'll get basically the same effect. Spend 500 on a good microphone or something.
For fun - sure, it'd get somewhere close to the dark backlighting scenario and you can see how it all works. In a professional setting I probably wouldn't advise it! All sorts of issues... but you'll mainly run up against limited output and colour temp (a spotlight fixture also concentrates the light output) - as well as managing power consumption.
I love the Idea of this Spotlight mount and especially what you did with it. What makes me think twice of buying this, is the definitely visible ring of light around the spot (not talking about the aberration) you can see it at 0:40 in your video when you zoom to 18degrees. I have not tested the amaran ones yet, but maybe thats a disadvantage to having a zoom lens in there. But let’s see if it this still happens in the final product.
Damn dude, why don’t you have more subscribers?! I would’ve thought you were in the high 5 digits! Love what you have going. Great video as always! Also, I’ve been checking back daily for your Komodo review video since you posted about it. I struggle with mine, but I’m finally getting used to it. Looking forward to your thoughts/insights on the car
Yeah I don't know, maybe I'm too mumbley for the mainstream 🤷♂️ spread the word! Komodo vid is in the edit, it's a big one so it's gonna take another week or two and I have a lot of client work on at the mo which is keeping me away from CZcams...
ahha! what are you using? I imagine the trade off between something small and compact is the quality of the optics, you're probably having to put up with more CA in a smaller affordable unit @@CartyCantDance
@@EdProsser Nanlite Bowens mount projector. The optics are great, but that internal zoom instead of switching lenses is kind of genius from sirui! The Nanlite project is so well built and I would trust it to survive a plane crash in all honesty.
yeah that thing is an absolute unit! I guess if you're rigging for the day or in a studio environment it's not an issue - if you're travelling then this is very easy to cram into my lighting case - and bring it as a "just in case I need it" item
The Amaran spotlight SE is still great (I own one too!) - they can both achieve the looks in this video - the SIRUI unit just makes it a little bit easier.
Thanks for this Ed ! Now I am curious about its output compared to other spotlights. Since other spotlights are “prime” lenses maybe they have bigger aperture and bigger output overall? Also they have an accessory that can reduce the diameter of the beam if you want it tighter (even if it’s not optical) so again, a comparison of the output would be even more relevant.
Do you mean shutters - that cut the beam? This has a set of those. Unfortunately I don't have two identical lights or an acurate enough light meter to measure these things... But I'm sure someone will!
Not the shutters but the iris attachement, it reduces the diameter but keeps the light as a circle. Since it's not optical the overall intensity decreases as you close the iris. So that could be an interesting comparison, like what would be better to have, a regular "prime" spotlight with the iris attachement or this Zoom that Sirui does. @@EdProsser
Very cool. Does the haze you use leave a residue all over your house or lens? Also, whats the effective difference between a fresnel and a spotlight like this, if any?
I opted for a type of haze machine that doesn't leave residue, it's a bit more expensive but I often shoot in people's homes and workshops etc. so that was important! The bonus is I can fill our flat with haze without getting in trouble!! A Fresnel is basically a type of lens for your light, it's not a million miles away from a spotlight but generally creates a more diffuse beam, these are used to make larger beams of light but they can be focused to create tighter beams, they just don't tend to be as sharp / intense as a spot. Generally spotlights are more defined ("spot") which allows you to shape them more or project textures / effects with the gobos.
Yeah it's from a UK firm called Pea-soup and it's called the rocket. AFAIK It's non-toxic and they can supply safety info paper work which is great for signing off use with more cautious clients. Check out it here: www.pea-soup.com/rocket.shtml
on the LUMIX I think it was all on the Sigma Art 24-70 - honestly not a lens I use a lot but I've been using it on a professional project so it's been stuck on the camera for the last month or so
Yeah I noticed that when I got the footage back with the stuff shot at table - but I didn't seem to have it when I shot the black out backlight shot. The vents / grills at the top of the unit are probably the source of this, otherwise it's maybe something to do with the model / shape of the light used. This is a pre-production unit so hopefully they'll refine this with final model.
@@EdProsser Yeah I found it strange it didn't seem to appear in all the shots. Anyways thanks for this! Still trying to figure out this whole cinematic lighting game
hey how are you ed , as the subject is trending once again can you make a video about why modern movies looks fake and how to fix them , and thank you for the amazing tips you share.
Hello! Like how do you mean? Like the issue of too much CGI? I don't know if modern movies do look fake!? It just depends what movies you watch I guess!
I have asked but I'm still waiting to hear back on that - I'll update in the comments when I hear back. I think it'll be in the "affordable" category and knowing SIRUI it'll be competitively priced against competitors - whether that'll be the cost of the Spotlight SE or the cost of SE + additional lens I don't know.
Yes like other spotlights it has shutters which you can move around to cut into and shape the beam. Adding the spotlight to your light will effectively increase the output as it's focusing it onto a narrower space.
Where are the x-files fans at? Comment below...
Haven't seen it yet but you actually made me want to give it a try!
Man, i gotta go back and rewatch. I was such a huge fan of it growing up!
@@ash.walton I think because I watched it so young it's like part of my DNA
@@victor.melchorfilm I wonder how it'd be coming to it fresh from a modern day perspective. It can be kinda cheesy but it still looks good! Also where the writer / director of Breaking Bad started out - most of the lead actors from BBC appear in various x-files episodes first
I want to believe.
Most patient partner award goes to........
Definitely Stef!
Never watched any of your lighting videos before as I previously just wrote them off as being paid promotions but I actually really enjoyed this. Especially the section at 11:38 where you experimented with the gobo and lighting effects, that was really interesting.
None of them are paid promotions. Some might feature kit sent to me, others I've bought myself.
I'd highlight if a video has paid sponsorship.
Instead of reviewing the kit, I find it more useful to show it in use, what I can do with it and demonstrate some lighting setups. That way it's not really about the specific gear but the technique of using it.
@@EdProsser Exactly my point and I think style of video works great.
However, I’d argue that having kit sent to you is essentially a paid promotion just not monetarily.
@@johnbrowningdp to some degree, but not really. I get tonnes of gear review requests and turn most down. I'm fairly selective over what I accept, usually only things I'd take out on professional shoots, a $300 light doesn't buy my time or opinion and it actually costs me way more to make a video like this in my time than the product is ever worth. I think that's what a lot of people forget. That's why I make a video like this which is more useful rather than pushing the product, you could achieve most of these setups with any spotlight.
A paid promotion would involve them having input and approving a video and financially covering the time spent on the production. Just like a client would pay for my time on freelance production work.
The versatility of the zoom spotlight is awesome, so many setups
Yeah it saves a lot of time in fine tuning the lighting setup !
Well now I need a spotlight.. Amazing video Ed. The calm laid back nature of your videos makes them so enjoyable to watch. Also BIG S/O to Steph!!
Thanks man! I'd say the same to you too. I cannot imagine the amazing stuff you'd create - you need to get one!
holy shit ed, EVERY frame looked absolutely unbelievably incredibly beautiful
Ahhh thanks man! Pushing the limits of what I can achieve in our tiny flat!
you're really an inspiration
Just a heads up Ed, always put the big leg of the c-stand towards the weight and throw on a few sandbags.
Thanks, you are absolutely correct to point this out! But it is sandbagged (!) you can hopefully see it in the beginning of the shot, can't remember if it shows later or not (the shot getting in position is not the final position it lives in). The c-stand used has a horizontally extending front leg (which is the bottom leg) so this is the one that extends out under the weight as it offers stability.
Ed's lighting vids are always a treat
I try my best
Dude, this is exactly what I've been waiting for. Is there a time frame for the release? Lighting is really great as usual.
I think it's launched officially on the 8th April on Kickstarter!
The book/table bounce is an awesome technique that Robert Richardson uses a lot in his work. I especially noticed it in The Hateful Eight and it looks really incredible!
Yeah I thought it'd only look good when the Hollywood pros do it - but I really like it! I think you could easily motivate it with an overhead table light as well
I always love these kind of videos. So inspiring. Thanks for making one.
Yeah I enjoy making them! Take a lot of time, but I learnt a lot going through the process and trying new things
Ah this is so cool, I want one of these! All the footage looks incredible mate, a masterclass in lighting 🙌🏻
Haha thanks man, I try my best, always learning.
Kinda cool how it's light enough to just mount off a c stand with a 300d, creative use of the equipment as always!
Yeah it's actually tiny compared to other spotlights which is a big selling point, so it's easy to bring with you on a "just in case I need it" basis
@@EdProsser yeah the size and weight of the aputure spotlight is a big annoyance for me
Hey Ed! Thanks for another banger video, your lighting tutorials are really the best. It always feels like you are not necessary "teaching" us in a teacher sort of way but just bringing us along with your journey of experimentation. Question, how does this compare to the Spotlight SE? The zoom feature is awesome but i'm kinda weary that there will be a lost in output.
I'd say it's comparable with the spotlight SE, it's a little smaller and more compact which is cool. In terms of spot light I only have the 19 degree lens to for that not the wider lens, I'd assume that it would be similar in that the tighter spot lens would be brighter and the wider slightly less bright...
Very cool video, that being said if anyone reading this is a newer filmmaker or poor like me, please just get a flashlight and a paper towel tube and a hazer, you'll get basically the same effect. Spend 500 on a good microphone or something.
For fun - sure, it'd get somewhere close to the dark backlighting scenario and you can see how it all works. In a professional setting I probably wouldn't advise it! All sorts of issues... but you'll mainly run up against limited output and colour temp (a spotlight fixture also concentrates the light output) - as well as managing power consumption.
I love the Idea of this Spotlight mount and especially what you did with it. What makes me think twice of buying this, is the definitely visible ring of light around the spot (not talking about the aberration) you can see it at 0:40 in your video when you zoom to 18degrees. I have not tested the amaran ones yet, but maybe thats a disadvantage to having a zoom lens in there. But let’s see if it this still happens in the final product.
Yeah I suspect it may have been because I didn't have the shutters inserted
Nice, simple and very useful piece of kit.
Exactly, your imagination is the limit!
Loved the creativity in this video! The screaming shots looked super cool 👌
Haha yeah, I love those shots too, we were just playing around until we landed on something that worked
Great video as always Ed! loved the different setups. Can't beat a bounce light off the table/book
I'd never really tried it before - but was surprised how much I liked the look!
Tiiiight! Been looking for something like this. Thank u!
reallly nice stuff- love the backlight shots especially
Thanks Oscar - yeah really love the backlight stuff, gonna play around with that some more.
Damn dude, why don’t you have more subscribers?! I would’ve thought you were in the high 5 digits! Love what you have going. Great video as always!
Also, I’ve been checking back daily for your Komodo review video since you posted about it. I struggle with mine, but I’m finally getting used to it. Looking forward to your thoughts/insights on the car
Yeah I don't know, maybe I'm too mumbley for the mainstream 🤷♂️ spread the word! Komodo vid is in the edit, it's a big one so it's gonna take another week or two and I have a lot of client work on at the mo which is keeping me away from CZcams...
Dude! How good is X Files!!! Loved these setups
Epic video, Mate 🫶
Thanks Ash! Yeah I will forever be in love with the x-files. Was obsessed with aliens and UFOs as a kid 🤣
Great vid Ed! Love the dappled light the most!
Thanks, aha good to know, almost cut that out to shave some time off the vid!
Fantastic images Ed!
Thanks man! 🙏
Wow love the product design, but mostly love what you did with it Ed!
Yeah it's great and really compact compared to other spotlights I've used
@@EdProsser my spotlight feels like it’s about 50lbs 😂. It works though!
ahha! what are you using? I imagine the trade off between something small and compact is the quality of the optics, you're probably having to put up with more CA in a smaller affordable unit @@CartyCantDance
@@EdProsser Nanlite Bowens mount projector. The optics are great, but that internal zoom instead of switching lenses is kind of genius from sirui!
The Nanlite project is so well built and I would trust it to survive a plane crash in all honesty.
yeah that thing is an absolute unit! I guess if you're rigging for the day or in a studio environment it's not an issue - if you're travelling then this is very easy to cram into my lighting case - and bring it as a "just in case I need it" item
Omg!!! I NEED THIS 😭😭😭 im gonna return the amaran spotlight haha
The Amaran spotlight SE is still great (I own one too!) - they can both achieve the looks in this video - the SIRUI unit just makes it a little bit easier.
Setup 2 is the robert richardson special haha this spotlight looks nice!
Yeah I like what they've done, never tried a top down table bounce before but I'll deffo be trying it again on professional shoots
He’s back!!!🎉
Hello!
Sick vid!
Love the x files... it's on Amazon prime too i believe...anyways amazing video!
I used to secretly a hedule our VCR to video tape it (I was the only who knew how to do that 🤣) and watch it after school the next day!
@@EdProsser ahhh sweet sweet VCR...man I'm going to go watch all episodes again this weekend!
Thanks for this Ed ! Now I am curious about its output compared to other spotlights. Since other spotlights are “prime” lenses maybe they have bigger aperture and bigger output overall? Also they have an accessory that can reduce the diameter of the beam if you want it tighter (even if it’s not optical) so again, a comparison of the output would be even more relevant.
Do you mean shutters - that cut the beam? This has a set of those. Unfortunately I don't have two identical lights or an acurate enough light meter to measure these things... But I'm sure someone will!
Not the shutters but the iris attachement, it reduces the diameter but keeps the light as a circle. Since it's not optical the overall intensity decreases as you close the iris. So that could be an interesting comparison, like what would be better to have, a regular "prime" spotlight with the iris attachement or this Zoom that Sirui does. @@EdProsser
@@elieh.studio ah yeah, this doesn't have an Iris, but yeah that's a good point would be interesting to know that. I'll bare it in mind.
Very cool. Does the haze you use leave a residue all over your house or lens?
Also, whats the effective difference between a fresnel and a spotlight like this, if any?
I opted for a type of haze machine that doesn't leave residue, it's a bit more expensive but I often shoot in people's homes and workshops etc. so that was important! The bonus is I can fill our flat with haze without getting in trouble!!
A Fresnel is basically a type of lens for your light, it's not a million miles away from a spotlight but generally creates a more diffuse beam, these are used to make larger beams of light but they can be focused to create tighter beams, they just don't tend to be as sharp / intense as a spot.
Generally spotlights are more defined ("spot") which allows you to shape them more or project textures / effects with the gobos.
@@EdProsser can you share which haze machine and fluid you use? Is the fluid non toxic?
Yeah it's from a UK firm called Pea-soup and it's called the rocket. AFAIK It's non-toxic and they can supply safety info paper work which is great for signing off use with more cautious clients.
Check out it here: www.pea-soup.com/rocket.shtml
Suggest to put a practical lamp left table with the same color temp as the book (5600 K) will sell this effect 6:10
Yeah you're right, I think ideally would have experimented on a wider shot and got the light over the table in shot, just not enough space!
parts of these tests remind me of the lighting in the og blade runner…
Nice! I'll take that!
What lens was used on the frames from the s5iix? Nice lighting set ups btw
on the LUMIX I think it was all on the Sigma Art 24-70 - honestly not a lens I use a lot but I've been using it on a professional project so it's been stuck on the camera for the last month or so
I'm buying the version with Mr. Beam 🤣 hahaha haha I'll leave 🙈
I'll allow it
😍
seems like it has a heck of a lot of spill around the edges.
Yeah I noticed that when I got the footage back with the stuff shot at table - but I didn't seem to have it when I shot the black out backlight shot.
The vents / grills at the top of the unit are probably the source of this, otherwise it's maybe something to do with the model / shape of the light used. This is a pre-production unit so hopefully they'll refine this with final model.
@@EdProsser Yeah I found it strange it didn't seem to appear in all the shots. Anyways thanks for this! Still trying to figure out this whole cinematic lighting game
@@NickDelDuca me too 😅
Hey there I’m new to spotlights
I was wondering if this spotlight mount could work on any light with a bowens mount?
Any light with a bowens mount - but 300w max output!
hey how are you ed , as the subject is trending once again can you make a video about why modern movies looks fake and how to fix them , and thank you for the amazing tips you share.
Hello! Like how do you mean? Like the issue of too much CGI? I don't know if modern movies do look fake!? It just depends what movies you watch I guess!
@@EdProsser no i mean the lighting itself . the way its flat and no blacks whatsoever , and the same sharp look the all movies have right now
Can you give me a few examples? Which films do you hate the look of?
Did they say how much it would be?
I have asked but I'm still waiting to hear back on that - I'll update in the comments when I hear back. I think it'll be in the "affordable" category and knowing SIRUI it'll be competitively priced against competitors - whether that'll be the cost of the Spotlight SE or the cost of SE + additional lens I don't know.
When does the spotlight release?
I believe April 8th
is that CA / fringing on the spotlight?
There is some yes, talk about it towards end of vid
I can't tell, does this spotlight have the ability to cut the light?
And does it increase the maximum output of your light or decrease?
Yes like other spotlights it has shutters which you can move around to cut into and shape the beam.
Adding the spotlight to your light will effectively increase the output as it's focusing it onto a narrower space.
@@EdProsser Lovely, thank you buddy.