The $1100 Tide Craft How Bad Is It?
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Alrighty folks. Whats the Call??
sell it and put the money in the basscat
Idk man the only thing is how are you going to find parts for the evinrude because as you probably know mercury bought them
So it’s up to you I would keep it because I think it would take a while to sell
Keep it and it to an outboard shop to install all the wiring. And would have them look at all the boat wiring and switches while it's there and done properly so you don't have issues down the road.
Get the motor running and sell the motor. Find a plus 115 min.. Cut a ironing board shaped hatch mid front. Cover entire top of console w/black plexi or acrylic to hide old holes. Cover rail holes w/black 1/4x3x5 step on DIY HPDE plunge routed in flush. As for front soft spot add cross grid under or glue and screw another 1/2 ply over front deck.
Sell it as fast as possible. Take the first reasonable offer even if you lose a couple hundred bucks.
Quick flip then focus only in one boat, let's see that Cat in the water soon bro 🚤!
I really like the tide craft and think it has huge potential especially with a bigger motor this thing is sweet
Keep the tide craft. Sell the 50 look for used 150 put a new hydraulic steering system in it and a decent trolling motor and you’ll have yourself a good boat
i bought a 19 foot bass boat last year that sat outside for 5 years but over about a year just a little at a time we rebuilt it and it was totally worth it and its amazing i say keep it thanks josiah
Go for it! Let your talent and creativity shine. You do great work.
If you want to get out on the water quicker and cheaper, fix and keep the tidecraft. If you like doing a project that will take longer and cost more money, fix the basscat.
The blue/green/black is your tilt/trim like you figured out!
I'm not mechanical but I had to rewire an old Force 85hp for an old starcraft..The old outboards are really simple from a wiring perspective typically. Not much to them.
The major components to the battery are usually a stator/rectifier to keep the battery charged like an alternator (kind of, once again I'm not mechanical), and a starter/ignition.
I'm team tide craft! Boats are fun. I'm living vicariously through you! My big fear as with any old boat is how the stringers/transom are. New custom flooring/decking could be hiding a ton of previous damage/rot to the stringers.
I'd make the decision of which one to keep off which one is more structurally sound and doesn't need stringers or transom redone.
Sounds like you have a great plan in place to check this out! I'm excited either way, good luck!
im in the process of restoring an 85 ebbtide dynatrak i got off marketplace for $300. this tide craft is in better condition than mine but a fairly similar set up. cant wait to get it fishing! hope you end up keeping this and restoring cuz itd be awesome to see!
The thru-hull towards the front is more likely the drain for the front live well than the intake. Saltwater boats tend to have a bunch of thru-hulls, I wouldn’t worry about it unless there’s wood core in the hull. Check out a serious live bait fisherman’s offshore boat sometime - they’ll have upwards of three live wells, multiple drains, multiple compartment drains, and 3 pumps in a sea chest plus thru hull transducers. (A transom mount will never be as good as a thru hull because of turbulence). Screws into a hull are not a problem if properly sealed, coat the screws with 5200 and rock on. Professional installers do it all the time.
That said, somebody else’s half finished project is always a lot more of a pain in the ass to finish than a clean strip and rebuild so even though I like the looks and especially the color of the tidecraft I say sell it and focus on the bass cat
I’m concerned with the rot in the basscat more than the tidecraft. I worry about the condition of the stringers and the strength of the transom. IMO, even though the tidecraft is considered “inferior”, it’s in better condition and looks like it will take less time to be water ready. The basscat will be a longer project. Id say to run the tidecraft till you get the all the basscat issues fixed.
Time to Bust Out Another Thousand!
For the wiring, rule of thumb is black is ground. Best way to check is look for continuity between that cable and the engine block. As for the other two wires, connect ground and power to either blue or green. One should be “engine-on” and the other should be the starter. You need both to run of course, but as long as the motor turns over easily and is oiled, you should be fine
I think it would be a great first time fishing boat for someone. I would definitely expand the storage on the front.
I think it be a a good giveaway boat with you going over everything that’s wrong with someone else could finish the project keep the bass cat for your w
You mentioned the hole in side . . It does go to live well . . . I've done 3 boats . . . If you keep it make sure you pull fuel tank & check all hoses to live wells & pumps . . They will get wether cracked & leak . . It might leak more than you want . . Make sure bulge pump for sure works . . The rest is up to you & how much you want to spend . . Good luck . .
I had bought an aluminum boat that was cheap but not ideal for myself, did half the flipping on it before selling it. Threw that profit down on my boat now which is a 91 basscat pantera 2. Love this boat but needs some tlc as well...same as yours, found soft spot in the floor, tore the whole floor out found that the stringers were complete and even the foam was manageable....placed new marine wood in....now working on layering with fiberglass....it is not that hard and well worth it
That other back gas tank hole was definitely for the the oil res
Hook up the blue and green to a 2 way rocker switch, black to ground. Green, blue and power to switch. Blue trims up and green trims down
Your last two videos ended up being my immediate first thoughts when I saw that first part lmao. First was that you should’ve just bought the Bass Cat. Second was that you should sell the blue one. Third thought was there’s probably wood damage along with further fiberglass damage on the Basscat.
At least you got everything cheap. Tbh, I’d probably sell both. If anything you could probably turn a good profit.
Man I have been watching a ton of these restores and think I got lucky on my 1988 bumble bee with a 70 evinrude. I Did pay 3K for it but I don't have any major issues with it. The floor is solid and the so is the transom. Besides some upgrades such as a bigger trolling motor and carpet it is a solid boat. The lady that had it before me put carpet on the lower floor and used screws to hold it down. Luckily that did not harm the floor as she only had it a year. I used the boat last summer but this summer I am going to fill the small screw holes and glue the carpet down. I also need to polish up the gel coat and fix some holes. It has some wiring issues but that is not that big of a deal and I have already straightened out a few things.
First thing is dump the VRO. Everything I read and watched online is that it really does not work that great and can ruin motors. On my Bumble bee the 70 evinrude had VRO but luckily someone replaced the it with a regular fuel pump and I just pre mix it or mix it in the tank. Whoever had it before the person I got it from really took care of it luckily.
I think the biggest thing is if the original floor and transom is solid the rest is just cosmetic stuff. The only thing maybe would also be the motor but generally those evinrudes run forever. I like that that the basscat has a 150HP but that floor is going to suck.
I’m gonna try and find a rig like this for the hatches, pedestal bases, livewell tanks and trailer all for an aluminum boat project.
Basically part it out and scrap the rest
I would look at which boat easy easier to get parts still but @ the end of day I still say the basscat is more desirable I it had mariner or a merc
O man that 50hp has the tilt and trim I need for my outboard on my boat. You could try greasing the motor but it is more likly that the steering cable needs to be replaced
Either one of them looks better than the sf 175 skeeter I just bought. And a guy can never have to many boats.
I own a 15 foot spitfire V-1500. It's a 86 and still a great little boat with a 70 HP 87 Evinrude and moves at 40 mph. I say go for it
I agree, open up the bass cat and see how bad it is to fix. If to much then flip it and work on this one. Get rid of the 50. And either flip the other motor to it or get another motor. Sell the 50 for the price ya got for the boat, then the hull is free. And ya have a backup plan if the other one is too much
Im about to grab a new floater as well. Another ohioan here as well around zanesville. We should chase some fishes dude.
Plug the front live well with a rubber plug and enough clear silicone to seal it up good. If you wanna fix it it would b a nice boat personally I’d stick to the bass cat
The trailer is made by gt trailers Homer, Lousiana. My 15ft also has a plug low at the water level for front live well.
I say see what happens with the Bass Cat first. I’m very interested in your videos on this as I’m restoring a 78 Chrysler Courier 231 & she is rough, but if she’s fixable I do have some ideas.
Blue is up on the trim, green is down and black is neutral. Easy way to remember is Green is grass and blue is sky. That said the power trim looks like it is is for the motor that is supposed to be on that boat and that 50 doesnt look to have the rams for the trim.
I wouldn’t touch an old tide craft with a stick. Had one and had to put new stringers and floor back in. The original stringers were not even completely covered with glass from the factory.
Brother some young kids bass fishing dreams could come alive in that I vote flip it for a budget build and help someone change their life.
Definitely sounds like you could fix the Tidecraft faster. Would consider on finding a bigger used outboard if possible. Once you got it up at running the way you want it, then work on the BassCat and get it back to new condition. Then sell the Tidecraft.
I had one. Loved it. Fix it. Great Boat
try and do a minie bild on the tide craft without spending to much money and then on sell it for profitand end up making one nice bass boat done properly
For the steering cable either a new one or then angle its taking to get to the motor, it looks like may be to tight of a bend.
Tidecraft needs less work get it running for as cheap as possible fish off it until the bass at is fixed then sell the tide craft…doing floors is going to be time consuming on the bass cat and who knows what other issues it has
need to consider a larger outboard engine if you keep the tide craft...find the "bia" certification plate which is usually on the transom that will indicate what size engine the boat is rated for...just a guess but that 50 hp will never plane out that boat and if it does it will take 30 minutes to get it on plane
Black should be ground, get three momentary switch run power to switch, blue to sky (up) and green to ground (down) on trim.
I'd focus on the Basscat first. Determine it's feasibility and the change course if needed. They both have potential
Any chance there’s a knob under the wheel that tightens the wheel? My ranger has that for when it’s on the trailer to help the motor from turning
Not sure, I’ll def check! Kinda hope so 😂
Need to buy a new steering cable. I have a 1989 model boat had to put a new cable in big world of difference
what ya take for it not looking for shiney just fish
Windshields can be fond at C&O Marine. Call and ask for Carol!
Loving that tide craft so it breaks my heart to say follow Ron Swanson’s advice “never half ass two things. Whole ass one thing.”
2nd hole in back for oil injection tank ????
clean outboard. You got a gem of a motor
I'd personally fix it. Wich won't cost much at all. And then sell it.
Those old 50hp are hard to kill.
That tilt trim wiring.
Black earth.
Switched 12v power to the blue for up
Switched 12v power to the green for down.
I could have them back the front
Sell it, an work on the Bass Cat! 🤙💯
Fix up the blue one and sell it so you can focus yourself on your favorite the bass cat, also ot would sit out side and hard to take care of
I’d say she’s a keeper. I also have been known to make a terrible decision or a few though 😂
I ain’t far behind 😅😂
Look at the red switch it’s a power control switch that should control all the power in the boat
prob sell it because the bass cat is really nice if you fix it up
its seriously not a bad boat do to the things that someone else has done and or upgraded. the hole in the rear that you were referring to as possibly from another fuel tank that was removed is not the case it is for the 2 cycle oil tank and that is the location for the fill neck that prevented you from having to climb in the boat and fight the limited space in the back compartment to fill the oil tank.
I would put Sea Dec on it get rid of the carpet and make it an all-species boat.. it's light, short, and will get into a lot of places, and with that 50 be cheap to run
TIDECRAFT FOR SURE IS A BETTER LOOKING BOAT !!!! GO ALL OUT ON THE TIDECRAFT !!!
Spray paint the trailer black, simple easy and always looks good regardless of the boat
keeper for sure
Black ground, green is for down and blue is for up. There should be relays for up and down.
Get a bunch of beer, call your buddies, towem to a field and lightem up, have a boat fire!
That’s how water drains from the livewell it doesn’t pump in right there
Trim wires: BLK =Ground. BLUE=UP (blue sky) GREEN=DOWN (green gas)
is it gone?
Fix it man that boat is a beauty think back in the day when it was new you would have been king having that Sell the bass cat
I’m honestly surprised you didn’t start with this one, this would have been an easy flip or personal boat.
Don’t quote me, but in regards to the jackplate… my Mercruiser I/O trim tab wiring was blue was power up, green power down, black is ground. Blue sky up, green grass down.
Good info. Thankyou!
@@TightlineTV I typed trim tab but I meant the trim pump for the drives lol.
I say keep it. It will be a simple fix and would be a great boat.
Option 2, quick flip and put the money towards the Bass Cat.
That boat is sweet. Shine her up and fish her
KEEP IT
Shitcan the Tidecraft. That 50 Evinrude is a good little unit though.
Quick flip that boats going to be out of balance with just the one gas tank
That boat has good bones. Definitely sell that evinrude 50.
I say fix it up and keep it
You could put another motor on it if you needed too
And yeah the steering might need to be greased or replaced
I’d say If you want to be on the water soon
Fix the tide craft
That’s a over flow drain for the livewell. “I think”
I actually think the tidecraft looks like the better boat. Convert back to a fish and ski?
My opinion, do the bare minimum on it. Functional so someone can get a few more years out of it. Though even getting it to that point seems like a lot of work and money.
I wouldn’t even go messing with the floor or deck. You’ll just be opening a can of worms.
I'm staying out of it. One is a lot better and valuable boat when it's right, but there's a lot of time and money to make it right-a lot. The other is 70-75% to be a hook and go get wet boat, but it's never going to be the boat you seem to want. If you were in Florida you'd dbl your money. Operational 50 are listed for/and more what you paid for the package, boat and trailer could bring about the same. Cat floor is what needs to be tended to, your answer lays in what you find.
Get rid of the tidecraft as is. If you where going to keep it that would be one thing. But as an investment it's a gamble. All the money you get from it can go to the basscat. Plus you don't have to split your time into two separate boats.
wish I could afford a boat like this
Ive had great luck with tidecraft.
Dude the Basscat is clearly your Baby and she's gonna get ALL your attention! I'd do bare bones to get this thing done as an operational boat and sell it for a quick profit! Then, you can focus ALL your attention on the Basscat! Besides, in a pinch you can still take out the tin can to fish!!
I would offer some tips but I figure you have the answers you need.
Bare minimum and sale it. Resale value is not there for you to go 100% unless you plan to keep it. That deck is something else. Very odd storage compartments. I would google some schematics to help with all that wiring, engine, tilt, and dash
Make that a 9.9 HP lake boat.... and sell it fast
I’ll buy it off you just because of the color 😍
Hahah I’ll trade you for the jon boat!
I would sell this boat and concentrate on the bass Cat! Maybe just get it to running state and sell it. The motor on there is nowhere big enough to run that boat very fast. It will make someone a good starter boat. Anagram for boat? Bust out another thousand!
It makes the BassCat look easy. Sell it and put the money into the BassCat💯
Keep it
Turn that boat into a ski boat.
Sell it, don't waste your time on it.
You even said the bass cat is the boat you wanted, so put all your energy into that and make it the best you can.
agreed
For me, it would come down to math. How much is the Tidecraft worth all fixed up? Then how much money and effort (your time is not free) will you have to put into it to get it into that condition. Either it makes sense financially or it doesn't. If it doesn't, get rid of it. Since you mentioned finances being an important factor in the other video, I would base your decision on that and not on emotion.
Restore perfectly as possible put the motor from your basscat on your the tide-craft and get $6000
Fix it up sell it finish repairs on the bass cat
Quick flip
I’ll cry if you sell the Tidecraft 🥺
Fix it flip it and focus on the BassKat...
Putting a new steering cable in is not a big deal at all. Disconnect from the engine end and try and turn the engine by hand to make sure it swivels free. If the engine swivels free the issue is either the cable or the helm unit. Both easy swaps.
Any info on them grease fittings?
@@TightlineTV definitely give it a shot greasing those. I’m in a saltwater environment and 9/10 times it just needs cable replacement. If you’re super strapped on budget and the cable is locked up, you can totally give a last ditch effort and try and run some PB Blaster or WD40 through it to free up, but I doubt it would last long.