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Josh Pate On Kalen DeBoer's New Energy At Alabama (Late Kick Cut)
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- čas přidán 25. 01. 2024
- Alabama has seen Transfer Portal attrition since Kalen DeBoer was hired, but now some big recruiting wins have changed the tone. Josh Pate responded to the new energy in Tuscaloosa with several thoughts on Late Kick Live Ep 477. Is Kalen DeBoer the right hire at the right time? How will he be able to acclimate to things in the SEC? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Great show. Bama made a great hire and pay attention to the players that start coming their way. The guy can coach.
There were a lot of Auburn fans who swore Ryan Williams was going to flip to AU before Saban even retired and are now trying to act like this wasn’t a big recruiting win for DeBoer
That's the Barn for ya
Auburn fans live in the spin zone 24/7. No point in arguing with them. They’ll just move the goal posts like usual. Loser mentality stuff.
Yep, Auburn fans are like the black knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail": "It's just a flesh wound!"
War New Mexico State
Exactly. RW was a “lock” for Auburn when Saban was there. Now it’s no big deal? Typical Barn goal post moving.
I’ve watched DeBoer and Grubb interviews. Scoured CZcams. These are some cool dudes. I can see why the players love them and want to play for them.
Saban’s first big recruit was wide receiver, Julio Jones. DeBoer’s first big recruit (re-commit) is wide receiver, Ryan Williams.
Definitely DeBoer is a good pick. We fans are behind him!
As a southerner, worst part about living in the south is the ignorance of people that live here thinking that it’s different than the rest of America. Listen folks it’s 2024 let’s be honest…. Everywhere you go whether north, south east or west this is what you will find. Walmarts, shopping centers, the same restaurants, and people in debt staring at their phones.
lol. You are so Truth
Truth. I have lived all over the US
Wrong. Waffle house is only in the south.
You must not have watched the same YT videos of interviews with northerners. Ignorance is in no way concentrated in the south.
@@BB-ce5ev Wrong. I just ate at a Waffle House in Colorado yesterday 😂
As a Bama fan, I can say that my friends and I are more excited for this upcoming year than we have been in several years. I really think we have played very conservative offensive football considering the amount of talent we've had. The old saying "has a Ferrari, but drives the speed limit" comes to mind.
LOL.
PAC 12 football in the SEC is a recipe for disaster 😂😂😂😂 defense wins championships and that’s always proven
@@savagetigerfbfan6673says the person who's head coach came from notre dame lmao 😂😂😂😂🗑🗑🗑🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 will never win shit Bryan Kelly that's even more laughable corn dogs are down bad
@@litedawgstill salty about that ass whooping bama gave Georgia 3 peat bum 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🗑🗑😂😂
@@Hustle_256 he beat nick saban the best coach of all time while having a first overall draft pick at QB. Let that sink in. Good luck in the future losers you’ll need it massively just to get to 8-4 😂😂😂😂😂😂
ABSOLUTELY JOSH. I am so high on this guy and his STAFF. LIKELY A BETTER COACHING STAFF THAN WHAT NICK HAD.
Plus DeBoer knows how to develop players. Something I think Saban lost a step in the last few years.
because youre on meth
@@editnosmirc4489Yeah, his assistants weren’t up to par in that regards. He can’t develop DBs, QBs, RBs, WRs, and OL by himself. DBs were doing okay(his specialty), DL was still strong, but other positions were struggling.
So Nick Saban is not the best of all time and is not better than DeBoer? I remember for 17 years yall saying Nick Saban is the best coach to ever do it
@@savagetigerfbfan6673Is Deboer better than Saban? Of course not. But Deboer is legit and the coaches around him are better than what Saban had the last 2-3 years especially on offensive side.
People quickly forgot that Nick Saban & Urbsn Meyer had never recruited the South before voting to Bama & Florida. And those 2 coaches together dominated the SEC for over 20 years & both recruited at a high level too
I get the point but Saban was pretty solid with recruiting at LSU but agree with u that KD will be fine
@@jonathanwilliams6100KD is more like Saban going to LSU from Michigan State
@@davislewislove1314you could say the same thing about Billy Napier winning a lot at ULL then crashing and burning at Florida
@@savagetigerfbfan6673never compare a coach from ULL to a coach that was 26-3 at Washington in two years and played in a national title game. Those two coaches aren’t in the same race and if they are DeBoer has just lapped Napier for the 10th time.
@@3OOG ok well DeBoer only coached in the NAIA and Washington I know they made a natty but do u really think for a second they going back to the natty next year even with DeBoer after all they lost? He ain’t Saban end of story!!!
Plenty of faith in what Coach DeBoer and his staff are getting going in T Town !
RTR
As a bama fan I am very optimistic about the future. Roll Tide!
Freddie roach is still on that staff and he is from south and he is from U of A . And Gillespie has strong southern experience also . So Bama will be fine and we lost some yes we did but over 75 percent of our roster still on the team and those are all talented guys
A lot of people are going to be crying when KD has Bama running all over people like Saban never left.
I think he can do more with less... Saban needed more to do what he did .... Any drop off and Saban wasn't the same
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Shamutiger1967 where are you laughing at? We will definitely beat LSU.
@@keyroncampbell-sr3cz😂 goodness
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a fan of Bama, I am just happy we hired a really great coach who has an awesome track record of winning. I don’t understand the criticism with Coach Deboer, ok he is not from the South, but so what? He is hired based on his credentials and proven track of putting together a great team. People just honestly need to relax and watch him this year, and then judge.
Kalen was never worried about the players that left, nor was a lot of the players that stayed. Lifelong Bama fan here of 51 years. Glad to have him here. He seems relaxed and ready to work. I think some of the sharks in the SEC are in for a rude awakening when he gets rolling. Roll Tide!
You are the one ready for a rude awakening
Auburn fan? If you mean Hugh Freeze he usually has one or two good seasons then fizzles out.@@savagetigerfbfan6673
Roll Tide! I fully support him 100%! The moment he was hired I was behind him and the Tide will Roll come next season. Ready for the A Day game!
Cristobal and Lanning has built an SEC style defense at Oregon. He's 3-0 against Oregon and 2-0 against Texas. Oregon has SEC speed also
DeBoer literally means "The Farmer" in Dutch. The number one quality a farmer needs in order to be successful is patience....number two is hard work...
My last name translates to "Guards who man the castle gate". I've never even seen a castle in person... last names don't mean shit.
@@johndcockefeller4246 your handle translates to man who pounds other man's bee-hole..
I have faith in DeBoer.
Bama haters are going to lose their minds.
Roll Tide!
8-4/9-3 at best yr one. Will know more how they do in yr 2 after this season is over and we see the schedule.
@@ImMeandYouAreYou6942 - top 10 year 1, top 5 year 2. Mark my words.
Don't forget to donate to alabama's NIL collective. Roll Tithe!
@@glockman9c hahahahaha. Thanks for that laugh.
Nick Saban ain’t your coach why on earth would anyone think your team is worth a shit now?
I'm a Bama fan! I support Coach KD 1000% Roll tide!
The end of one era and the beginning of the next one!
@joshuawall5315 Bama won't be nearly as good without Saban.
@@raymondsublett3108he doesn’t have to be. It’s a 12 team playoff. Saban had a 2 team and then a 4 team. Deboer could lose 2 or 3 games and still be in the playoff. A lot of yall are about to shocked and butthurt when he’s successful.
@ravanalti3740 he'll be very successful at Bama but not the level of Saban
@@raymondsublett3108 No one will be even Saban himself in this era.
@@ravanalti3740Bama will have 3-4 loses this year: no way they make the playoffs.
I am a life-long Alabama fan that lived through the post Coach Bryant years. I knew Coach DeBoer was the right hire BECAUSE I follow you. Sark is great but why would he leave what he has built at Texas. Why would Dan Lanning is great but why would he leave what he has built at Oregon. Dabo was the dumbest name put forth even without the secret Alabama clause in his contract. He refuse to adapt to the transfer portal and NIL. Why would anyone want Dabo. Coach DeBoer wwas and IS the right coach to lead Alabama.
Yep, it seems crazy to say it, but Dabo is yesterday's news.
Can't believe you hit them with the "symbolic" theme from WrestleMania 15 😂😂
Spot on, as usual.
Bama next year is gonna surprise a lot of people it may be a 8-4 or 9-3 season but the next year will guarantee be a 10-2 or 11-1 and a possible championship
I agree about next year 8-4 but how can u expect to get better when the years pass and you lose more Saban recruits on your roster?
Great take, Josh. On point as always.
Your inner bammer blasted through on this one Josh lol
Y’all fumbled the bag on the WR huh
@@zachharrelson9971 uhh the guy was committed to Alabama for over a year.. decommitted for 2 weeks and recommitted. The only fumbling here would’ve been if he didn’t end up at Bama. I think AU will be alright considering they have the number 1 receiver class in the country coming in
@@Feelsbadman23 lol amazes me the amount of people already over the moon when he turned to y’all then now act like it never mattered.
I guess when your already used to losing you really can’t lose?
Lol barner logic is sure something
@@zachharrelson9971 turned to y’all? He was never committed to AU at any point you buffoon. Sure it would’ve been great to have him, but he was always Bama’s to lose. How’s that logic for you? Btw it’s “you’re,” but I know most Bama fans don’t know basic grammar. If you want to speak on recruiting, at least know what you’re talking about.
Saban has built Bama to remain elite long after he’s retired.
Josh, same question. he was 2 years at Fresno, 2 years at Washington. What winning team has he actually recruited himself? And don't say Pennix because he poached him from a previous job.
Finally a fan who isn’t an Alabama D rider. This dude is a closet Alabama fan. He loves the tide. Everything his page is pro tide.
LOL. He inherited a 4-8 team and coached them to 14-1 in two years, without the benefit of a team loaded with 4 and 5 star players. That should tell you that he can do even better with Bama's current roster of 19 5 stars and 46 4 stars. The Bama football program is far more than just the head coach. It's a system with a century long winning tradition. Even though Mike Shula didn't win to Bama's standards, 52 of the players who were on Saban's first championship team in 2009 were brought there by Shula. Meaning: Alabama will ALWAYS get great players, no matter who the coach is. You need to understand that today's high school players have been watching Bama win championships since they were in diapers. A lot of those kids are honored to be considered by the top program in the nation.
As for Penix, when he was coming out of high school, he was not a blue chip prospect. Tennessee rejected him, so he wound up at Indiana. DeBoer saw his potential and brought him to Washington, and turned him into a Heisman finalist and high NFL draft pick.
@@user-en3xx3uk7y You sound like a fan of a team that loses to Bama a lot.
@@randyjordan5521got em!
I’m from Tuscaloosa and a Bama fan (55 years) and I was disgusted by Bama fans’ disgusting whining
Sometimes first impressions mean nothing. But I will say, I had never heard of Nate Oats, but a couple of minutes into his introductory press conference I felt good about him being the guy. And that was the correct impression. DeBoer gives off the right vibe, also. But we’ll see. RTR
DeBoer and staff have hit the ground running
Do not forget that the D coach is from South Ala. which had an awesome team this past year as well. His recruiting and talents will be massive.
Bama haters two week ago: "Saban is gone! The Bama dynasty is over! All of Bama's good players are transferring out!"
Bama today: Regains the #2 spot in the nation in 2024 recruiting.
They always had that ranking it didn’t go away. Everyone in your class signed except for 2 players before Saban retired so the ranking is still the same but a few ppl from that class left bama already
@@savagetigerfbfan6673 Rivals had dropped Bama down to #3 after Sayin and Ryan Williams decommitted. They bumped them back up to #2.
@@randyjordan5521 I’m on 247 and on 3 and I checked every single day they never changed the ranking bc the class was basically signed in December and that was before Saban retired. It woulda actually been worse for you had he retired then bc a lot would have decommited and signed elsewhere and that prolly coulda just knocked you out of the top 10. Next years class for y’all already had decommitments only have 2 commits now and ranked at 27.
@@savagetigerfbfan6673 I don't have the time to go back and find the day when Bama was dropped to #3 in the recruiting rankings after Saban retired. But I wouldn't have mentioned it if I hadn't seen it. Bama's ranking was dropped after Sayin decommitted.
I've been saying the same thing. Signing Williams has that Julio Jones vibe to it. Other kids will follow Williams.
Josh Pate is a closet Alabama fan!!!!
We aren’t about to fall off all. Besides,,,We’re ALABAMA 🐘🐘🐘
Are you old enough to remember when Bear Bryant left? Or how about when Urban left Florida? Trash.
I’m so glad that you did the comparison between Williams and Julio because I have a feeling he will be Deboers Julio.
This is fast becoming the bama appreciation channel
Let them keep underestimating the man.
Great stuff as always. RTR
A lot of Alabama fans is acting like they wasn’t crying about the hire now too
All they did was open the check book for Williams seeing players were jumping ship so quickly. They just did that to slow down the bleeding.
You have to have a certain personality to recruit in the south, I think he’s got it.
Beautiful take
Ryan Williams is DeBoer's Julio. Huge commit. Williams is like Devonte Smith and Justin Jefferson combined, imo.
The kid hasn't played a single snap in college football lmfao
#1 I was comparing Julio and Ryan as recruits.(both 5* out of the state of AL except Ryan is forgoing his senior yr and go to bama in the summer) #2 the way he moves and plays is like Smith and Jefferson, imo. Now does that help you out any? watch the video then you'll know what these comments about Julio actually mean.@@DrCaptainObvious
This might be a hot take but with the commitment of Ryan Williams to Alabama. Kalen DeBoer just put the SEC on notice while at the same time answering questions tide fans had about him as a recruiter.
That was thanks to roll tide willie not KD
He got a kid that lives in Alabama that was previously committed to recommit. Honestly, Williams recommitment doesn't say a whole lot especially with Bama's path to playing time at receiver being what it is.
@@Alexp9508 gotta use those resources in some way .
We also lost a couple of excellent players.
@@violetjames7534 that’s true. In 2024 Alabama will be very talented but very young. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the starters are freshman and sophomore.
Great way to put it Josh. Can’t wait to see the Tide roll over everyone! RTR 🐘
😴😴😴😴😴 severe disappointmrnt is heading your way
You must be a a member of the Barn. LLLLLL
I like what I've heard so far I'm hopeful optimistic at this point roll tide
DeBoer will thrive and won't stop winning in the south! Everyone talking like we will fall off and he can't cut it, it's been just the opposite! We lost alot of players but have alot of 5 stars coming in we have 3 from Washington who are great players! We gonna keep winning Like Saban never left! DB just put together a world class staff in just a couple of weeks! Got the No1 overall offensive coordinator in in the nation, I believe people will be surprised at how well we will thrive in the Sec Rtr!
BAMA IS GOING TO COME BACK STRONGER AFTER ALL THIS THEIR GOING TO L.A.N.K ROLL TIDE ROLL AND IM BEHIND COACH DEBORE ALL THE WAY HES GOT THIS
Coached against Ryan with 2 different teams. Lol, both teams I coached with are loaded with D-1Talent. He is a freak, different, the fastest “football speed” I’ve went against in 13 years of coaching in Mobile, Alabama. He will start from game one and be an All American very soon.
Lets go DeBoer's RollTide.
ROLL TIDE ROLL! 🐘🐘🐘🐘
So I guess the question is "How long will it take for Alabama to be in groove?"
I personally would love to see Alabama go 10 wins in his first season
Freddie Roach as a Co Head was not a move I expected but welcome
🗣️ ROLLTIDE 🅰️🐘
Kalen is going to bring that PAC-12 air raid offense to Alabama. The problem is that the Big 10 Midwest teams have laid out the blueprint for stopping that in two national championship games with 2014 OSU beating Oregon 42-20 and Michigan beating Kalen's Washington team 34-13. I expect more of the same with Kalen. These videos are puff pieces because social media need some more Alabama videos.
This is about as good of a hire one could make. Saying a guy who’s 104-12 as a head coach won’t be able to handle the SEC is hilarious and they should look at their own coach’s record. He’s going to have Bama rolling like he’s done with every other schools he’s been at.
And oh yeah, Saban and Bama made the SEC the beast it is today.
Bama will still be a consistent contender
War wounds makes men and produce champions 🐘
I just hope Alabama don’t abandon the running game
He had a 1200 yard RB. He runs the ball also.
I just heard that Big Al has entered the transfer portal.
Hell yet Roll Tide from Naples Florida
Yeah, you right! 🐘🏈
Late Kick is nothing if not a string of symbolic deep cuts and Fleetwood Mac nods.
Your right about as a saying all that and it happened, but 5 coaches before that also said the same things.
Kd is legit man
I feel better and better everyday.
Definitely!!
Bama will do good this and nexts season because other teams don’t think Bama is the mouthing anymore - meaning, even if another team had the same schedule it can’t be compared because everyone played Bama differently. Now. People will stop playing so damn hard and the current players will have grudge in their shoulders so the focus will be there. I think things will
Even out a bit 2-3 years from now.
You are wrong about the WR group. Definitely had a 1. It was more than that it was QB play. Period.
I agree
I have endured every Bama coaching change since Coach Bryant. It was difficult between Bryant and Saban. Something feels right about Coach DeBoer. RTR.
Pate State got the receipts.
Bama will be fine, it’s finna be Wide Reciever U with Deboer doing his thing.
I don’t think we were lacking WR talent. I think we were lacking a decent offensive scheme.
Super stocked about Doboer
Doesn’t matter who the coach is. SEC recruits the best players. They will win
Notice, Jim hairball didn’t get an offer to coach at Alabama!! Who wouldn’t want to hire a coach after winning a “national championship”…….. not Alabama!
ROLL TIDE!
bama will be fine . deboer's a good coach.
Get your facts straight Pate, only person that got the offer was DeBoer🙄
I only really have a couple of questions with Kalen DeBoer. Is he capable of managing all of the attitudes and egos of the kids on the team now that he will be coaching a different caliber of athlete? Will he be able to hold it together when/if his coaches start getting poached by other programs for better opportunities? Only time will tell.
The big question is is anybody going to be able to take his OC? Let's not forget this same OC turned Saban down so it makes you wonder if he's not like Kirby in a sense that there's one job he wants and that's the only job he'll leave for
@@MCG55SS I'm not sure Grubb is the brains behind the offense. DeBoer calls the plays. Either way, the Kirby to Georgia move made sense as he's a Georgia alum. Grubb went to Buena Vista University. I think the first decent head coaching gig Grubb gets offered he will jump.
Who got an offer ? You got proof of that? I see a lot hear say and some couches got a bonus cause of the talk
I’m assuming SAYIN de-committed because of NIL.
Ohio State had to pay the kid big.
If this was about money, he would have gone to whoever offered him the most money to begin with. I suspect that he may have gone to OSU because DeBoer brought his hand-picked sophomore QB with him. Also keep in mind that Milroe will probably start for one more year, while OSU's starting QB just left the team. So their QB job is open for competition.
@@randyjordan5521 that’s quite possible. However, with all the success OSU has had at QB at the college level, they can’t seem to transition to the NFL. One exception is CJ
@@randyjordan5521 also with OSU QB up and leaving they were desperate for a QB. So call up Sayin and offer him more NIL
"hes never recruited down here"
roach has
Gillespie has
the new te coach used to coach in the sec
linquist was in the sec coaching for years
Pate claims Deboer is a good people-person??? SHM! As a huge Bama fan I was very excited about Deboer's track record of winning and offensive production with Grubb HOWEVER it is beyond me how so many Bama fans and analysts can totally look past how badly Deboer botched what should have been his #1 priority in his first 10 days upon arrival at Bama: i.e. RETENTION of key staff and players most importantly DB coach and logical choice for DC Travaris Robinson. Somehow Deboer managed to alienate T-rob so badly in his first 24 hours that once he finally decided that he did want to hire T-rob as DC, T-rob turned him down to go to UGA for lower-level job and less money!! The loss of T-rob, and subsequent inability/unwillingness to bring in a proven premier DC, almost certainly is why Caleb Downs (GENERATIONAL TALENT), Trey Amos and Dezz Ricks all decided to leave. Moreover, both Zion Grady and Javion Hilson decommitted apparently because Deboer / his staff wound not simply communicate with them. Sure it's great to get Noah Carter, but that should not absolve Deboer of HARSH criticism for all this unnecessary attrition! INEXCUSABLE!
When the GOAT left bama had over 70 4&5 star players.!!! Those days are over. Thats the point no more super teams. Thats what will change the most.
Sorry for the haters..... Bama is still Bama
I think it'll be everyone else bleeding instead of us before too long!
While I'm bummed DeBoer left us (seems like everyone in sports leaves Seattle) I think he'll be just fine at Bama. Dude had two years here an went something like 25-3. Seattle doesn't recruit anything like Alabama, not even close. In all of UW history they've recruited less than 10 five star recruits. True story.
I think Alabama might actually do better under DeBoer! Maybe not, but he'll be fine an so will that team.
I am about to start calling my friends from WV Yankees
Bama & Ohio state bound to explode this season
You have to go through Tennessee first.
@@DrCaptainObvious Tennessee isn't concerning at all, probably 6th best team in SEC but ok
Has DeBoer ever worked under Nick Saban? He’s a B1G product, right? The haters feel betrayed. Seems when Kalen got the call if he were walking at a full stride he must have tripped and at first thought it was a joke! Now he knows and without hesitation and with every part of his soul the word ,”YES” . Billy Martin , Pat Riley and yes, Saban didn’t hesitate when they got their calls. I’ll bet that Kalen’s wife didn’t even know until at least half of all of the B1G coaches knew. “Honey, cube everything.we’re moving to T-Town”.
Who knows who was offered,Deboer was Bamas first choice
It would be so nice if he wins his 1st Natty here in T-Town his very first year… QB play will be key.. Sure we lost some fellas but Nick left him a Pot of Gold. Roll Tide!!!
lol yall are delusional.
I think they lose more players. Prolly go 9-3 this year
UGA 42 Bama 20
Will Alabama be as dominant as they have been? I do not suspect they will. Will they compete for titles? Yes, I think Saban built an empire, and I think coach Deb may be a bit more mortal, I expect him to be very successful. Only concern is the Alabama fanbase being entitled from so much success and that can kill a program
Let’s get one thing clear the guys a proven winner, and he’s done it at every level and that’s what kids are gonna gravitate to. He’s gonna be able to recruit because of the simple fact of what he did at Washington. It showed that he could do it at the D1 college level just like he done it at the other levels he was at. It’s the same thing that Nick had done at LSU that helped him do what he did at Alabama. It’s the school does a lot of it but Calen DeBoer will probably be almost as successful or as successful as Nick Saban unless he leaves for another job.
The question mark this coming season will not be BAMAs offense. The big question mark will be how good is our Defense but more specifically how good will our back 7 do this year? Will they be porous like LSU was this past year or will they be solid. Only time will tell.