Top 5 Things I HATE About My Honda Trail 125!
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Here are my top 5 things I hate about the Honda Trail 125. Even though this is my favorite bike I have ever owned, I was able to find some flaws. What is your least favorite thing about these little Trail 125s?
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All very valid points except passenger accommodations. You can get a seat the attaches to the rack in back, and I think some fold out foot pegs. Why anybody would buy a 55mph trail bike for street use and then complain about not being able to keep up with typical traffic is beyond me. I bought my first Trail 90 after they first came out for $385. Now they must meet international regs and cost $4000 if you can find one for that price. Good luck finding service for your T-125 when/if you need it. I still have my '68 Trail 90, has a sticky transmission, not an easy fix, need to find a competent mech in SoCal. Always wished they had a clutch.
Them transmission can be intimidating but are not that difficult to fix,not sure what you mean by sticky transmission but if it gets hung up when shifting its probably a bad stopper arm
As an owner who puts 100+ miles a day on one I'll address your 'hates' (more dislikes? ;O)...
I've got a CT 125 in the UK and if they are rare in the USA they are basically nonexistent in the UK - you have to import them individually. I have had lots of bikes (small and big) and this one gets people smiling at me, looking over and with a look of genuine interest, and coming over to chat. I agree with with point one - Honda doesn't recognise what a lovely bike this is and how popular it would be globally.
The speed is what it is. It's a trail bike - think about that word ("trail"). I don't see it so much as it's too slow for the roads; rather western roads (USA or European roads) are too fast for it (at times). Basically everyone has come to expect to drive fast everywhere they go. We could all do with slowing down a bit and appreciate the scenery (town or country). If you want faster get the Super Cub. Currently you cannot have the 4x4 (off roader) looks (in motorcycle terms) and also cruise round town at 65 mph.
If you want a rear seat you can get one. However, a seven year old is too young to be on a bike - I love bikes but they are a big risk even if you yourself are a safe rider; too many idiots and bad road conditions to be safe enough for a young person to understand the requirements to hold on - or strength - and the dangers of the rear sprocket (legs have been mangled). It's your passion; your niece will have many years to decide on what she would like to do. A Super Cub with an enclosed chain would be safer here for pillion passengers.
Two ways to downshift if you cannot down change smoothly yet: either wait until you are coming to a stop and have slowed right down and then quickly change all the way down as you're almost stopping. Or, and especially if you just need to go down one gear: learn to blip it first. Foot changes down but before letting off the lever with your foot blip the throttle just a little and then release the foot lever. Try it. Works perfectly and when you learn it, it will be a revelation. Once you get the hang of it you can do a video on the process.
Duel range? Not required. You even say you would hardly use it. Move on.
Last point: the seat is uncomfortable. I don't find it so. I should say I'm pretty much a "professional" (if I can use that word) motorcycle rider when using it. I use it for Uber Eats, Just Eat (Grubhub in the USA), and Deliveroo. All like DoorDash etc. I easily put 100+ miles on the bike a day and have no problems. It's a brilliant delivery bike. It may be a personal thing - everyone is a bit different. However, I use a seat cover so maybe that helps? On Amazon (for example) search for "motorcycle seat mesh cover". I have the Cekell one. Works for me I guess. I'm also moving around a lot on the bike. Some riders think they are a basically a sack of potatoes when on the bike. Move about! :o). Shift a little forward, a little back, to the left, to the right. Push into the pegs to take the weight off the seat. Stand up off the bike at junctions and traffic lights. You aren't just ballast on the bike - it's OK to move.
Great points. I love this bike for what it is.... except the seat. Make sure to add a request to Corbin if you intend to keep it. Or take it to a local upholstery shop to recraft the oem one. That's what I did. Big difference in comfort.
You can get a pillion seat that bolts onto the rear rack. You can also get a replacement seat for the stock one that is twice as long to accommodate a passenger. It changes the look to be more reminiscent of the Cub 125.
I gotta say that while your issues with the bike are legit. It does look like an awesome bike to have around town and occasionally take up into the mountains. Like a perfect intersection of scooter and dirt bike.
Mine should be here in a week, can’t wait!
Gratz!
My main concern is the speed. Even on secondary roads I find myself pulling over to let cars pass. I have to drive a bit to find dirt roads and find myself leaving the 125 at home and taking my crf300l instead. I wish it was a 150 that could easily do 55 to 60mpf. Around town it's fabulous.
Honda’s biggest mistake is releasing 125’s instead of 150’s for USA, as a lot of states (California) are 150cc minimum for freeways. That is why their PCX was bumped up from 125 to 150, but their other 125 models leave the factory obsolete. Yeah they sell, and 9/10 of those buyers probably wish their 125 was 150cc.
You should sell it. Only people in the U.P. of Michigan should ride these.
8-month later comment, but I'd suggest getting a little cargo net to cover your super-awesome milk crate (not kidding here, I love seeing those things on bikes), to better keep your groceries in the basket in case of a weird bump or spill. I swear by the darn things. If you haven't looked for one, you'll understand what I mean when you see it.
Great video! o7
Thanks man,good work.
Hopefully Honda will listen to their customers. Would like a few more color choices for 2023 too!
They are coming. I was told upon deposit the end of 2023. Now I heard today it has arrived in the box and on the build list for next week. She will be home with me soon!
Don't pay over sticker.
Mine just hit 350 miles and I got 58 all out on flat ground lol but I do love it, downshifting can be a pain ,I try to only downshift into 2,1 at stops so it dont jerk around on me, as far as dual range I do wish it had it but honestly it dont need it first gear will climb anything I was surprised,I do have a few 110's and a 90 with dual/range without it they would not be as much fun,,but if the 125 had it, it would be fun lol
I agree with everything and we don’t even own one yet.
There so difficult to find and people are so determined to get them that the price gouging has became a meme.
I’ve been saying for a long time that the Honda mini line up needs a bigger bore for the US market not much but just a little more. I just picked up a new ADV150 and it pulls hills and cruises better than my old stage 2 grom. So if Honda would just make there minis run with the ADV that would be perfect.
Megan really wants a trail so whenever we get one it will 100% be getting a bench seat and a clutch. That metal hoop behind the seat looks like a tailbone breaker if I’ve ever seen one and learning to properly down shift a auto clutch is such a useless and unnecessary skill to have to learn. Allot of people hang onto the “it’s the way they were back in the day” but if they can upgrade the fuel system, brakes and the whole size of the bike they can add a manual clutch.
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Place near me just got two and they’re priced at 5500
@@lucasjm2 Picked up my ADV150 for $300 less than that and it has a higher MSRP.
I agree- paid $6,300 out the door, miss a clutch, downshifting w/o it jerks the bike like I’m a newbie & the seat may as well have nails sticking out of it! But it’s still a fun ride! 😁
Great content. I’ve got a monkey. Can you go down a tooth on the front sprocket on the trail? I did that on the monkey and gained me a little on the top end.
I have one and my biggest complaint is the seat as well.
I want one but it would have to have a 150 cc engine to go more highway speeds and definitely a Mokey's seat for more comfort on longer rides and it would be closer to being that PERFECT bike !!!
Well I have some good news, if you're serious you can get a big bore kit to get this bad boy to be 181cc and there are after market seats that are apparently much more comfortable.
I've been trying to buy one here in VA for a year. I refuse to pay ADM so I fear I'm on for a long wait till things settle down. Eric
Good luck buddy! Again, wish it was more available.
I know exactly what you mean. Honda of Jacksonville told me $1000 more out the door than another local dealer. Obviously I purchased mine from the other local dealer.
I’m in VA as well…. Any luck?
@@josmty9 None at Fredericksburg motorsports, or Wayne's cycles.
I'm getting a little bit discouraged about having to wait for one or getting gouged on the price. I want one too 😫.
Bide your time and keep your eyes peeled. Use searchtempest.com and search daily on craigslist, you'll find one eventually for a reasonable price.
Great points. If you could only own the Monkey or the Trail which one would you keep?
Hmmm good question, probably the trail. Mostly because of how extremely practical it is with that large rack on the back.
You gotta rev match it when down shifting. Kill the throttle, hold down the shifter, rev it just right, release the shifter, and if you do it right you'll have a downshift that's smooth as butter
I am learning this. Basically, you need to release it very slowly and smoothly at the correct rpms or it will jerk on you. When I do it correctly it shifts smoothly although almost never bother with 2nd to 1st. Will do that at a stop. One thing I don't do is give throttle when releasing the shift. I kill the throttle and don't really introduce it again.
They really need to make a CT300.
I have to say, I wanted a new. I had a CT90. What I did was take the suspension off of a new KLX and dropped it two inches. I regeared it for trail work. It’ll still do 65 but has the grunt to go anywhere. It is amazing trail bike.
Wow a CT300 or CT250, now I have a hard time believing that wouldn't sell like hotcakes
It's rare that I can watch a youtube video and honestly say, "Hey, I know where that street corner is! Right across from Orvac electronics!"
I don't think these bikes are even highway legal in most states, but it's not really intended for highways, It's a little, in-town runabout you can take off road.
How about a speedo you can see in bright sunlight or an attached helmet lock? The tool kit consists of a screw driver. It has tubed tires (more prone to blowouts} and spoked wheels, which need occasional truing by a specialist.
Speed? These bikes are geared down a bit for more off-road torque. If you want a faster (but not quicker} bike, just go up a tooth or two on the stock, 14 tooth countershaft sprocket. Easy-peasy.
It has a clutch..per se. just don't release the peddle when down shifting, rev up, and then release. it operates like a hand clutch. But yeah..hand clutch would be way better
On downshifts there is a technique to blip throttle that makes it super smooth at any speed, had same issues on my Honda c90 and 110 wave but then figured it out (ok my dad taught me)
@@notexpatjoe 100%!
price gouging is for real on this thing, and sellers are arrogant about it, even when they don't sell their Trails for months. It's like they are in denial.
Theres actually a clutch on this bike..you just have to learn to control them with your foot...it's pretty much the same with xrm 125 which is what we have here in the🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
What setup do you film with
Hero 9, mounted to my helmet l. The onboard mic pics up my audio just fine.
thank you - yes the CT needs a HI/LO selector [pretty much useless as it is.
my old CT 90 had it and WOW what a difference!
the machines a dual purpose so its ok on roads kind of ez trails, but not good on a real trail. too fast for hunting w/out LO range.
the extra riders were ok as the old CT had a place to screw in the pegs/foot rests.
but the seat option wasnt so great. so my extra riders used a few different cushions. [still not so good for them] fine for me ;)
yeah the seats not the best,but it is what it is.
like you, I do like the new CT, but for me? the mot having a HI/LO selector makes it entirely useless.
Seat is to high and too hard. How do short Japanese manage it?
Heel shift was originally to keep 'salary men' from scuffing their shoe on the way to the office. I find it a pain -- and I, too, would prefer a clutch.
The bike's too squirrely. A little more rake would make it much more stable and relaxing to ride.
Underpowered for American roads. Barely keeps up with traffic. Honda already has 150cc engines, why not use these?
I have to agree with all these points. I have one and I really love it. But there are things one could change to make it so much better.
lol....@3:20 "i love going to Target"
I have a cub and Navi and 50 They are all super dope
I waited a year. List for 3800 i ended up paying 5400 for every thing. They could make a 280 cc if they wanted . ? Needs 5 speed so I would have more of a granny gear and I reach for the clutch to shift to a highway speed at 30 mph. And nothing there. Ugh
this thing would fk if it had the lil 150 from the new ADV150
First of all this is a TRAIL bike, the majority of its miles should be done off-road if you ride it on the road you should only go to where you're going to ride off-road. The design of the frame and the motor which is an absolute torque monster isn't geared up for the highway. As an owner of two Trail 90s in my past and looking for one for some retirement fun since I now live in the forest. I do see certain things that are unusual like disc brakes and abs on the front wheel however I don't think it has the Dual range transmission. The trail 90 with a dual range transmission had enough torque and enough power 2 practically go up the side of a tree.
It took me almost two years to finally get one at my local dealer. $4660 otd. A little high.
I own a 86 Honda ct110 with the dual range sub transmission. If the ct125 had this transmission, this bike would be out of stock. Great for off roading, hunting and carrying loads. I would buy one if it had the dual range. It's a Honda exclusive.
If you want to sell, I'll buy it. I'm pretty set on this and I'm watching dislike videos to find a reason not to buy. I'll drive the 19 hours to bring it home to Washington 🤣 I got friends in Simi Valley I could visit.
Haha I'll have to pass on your offer for now
I find it odd that you refuse to put a seat on it to keep it stock but you have a milk crate for more storage there. Whatever your definition of "stock" is, it sure isn't the same as mine.
I love my green 2023!!!
Hey just curious how much are you guys paying for these? I finally found one in Texas for $5600 out the door. Leary to pay that much over msrp
Okay so I paid 5200 used. I would buy that one for 5600 if I was you.
But yeah these should be 4500-5000 bikes, but they're not 😩
That being said I've heard of people paying 4500 otd. And I've heard of people paying 7000 otd. So it's a wild market right now
Honda keeps availability low, to keep the price high, and actually encourages price gouging.
I was unaware the new ones don't have lower gears that was a selling point for the older ones they could tow a car. Easily.
Seats…foot pegs…engines kits up to 181 cc on a stock bottom end. Most of your complaints are easily and cheaply fixed.
That said, I bought this bike to take into the woods and drag game out with. For that, it’s been perfect. It’s far more fun than my big cruisers have been IMHO.
Have you hauled a deer out on it yet? If so, how?
@@shaneflowers418 Plastic game sled secured to the back rack with a ratchet strap…works better than you’d think, and it certainly beats carrying one out of the woods.
You can a Honda Wave 110 in Thailand for $1000.
The bike can only carry 250 so unless you weigh 145 and your girl is 105 you can't have a seat
Yeah you're right, riding with 2 full grown adults wouldn't be my go to thing, but my 45 pound neice is a good idea.
The shifting sucks so far. But I’ve only driven a few times thus far. I’d sell mine for 4500
To me, this is more of a Moped than a motorcycle. 🤷🏻♂️
Is it fun? Do you have money? If it’s yes then it’s worth it
there are more pros than cons if the bike is used wisely.
I'm surprised harbor freight doesn't come out with one
Lol. What?
@@EMVelez-qb1zu yeah, have you seen all the Honda clone motors that harbor freight has?
1. It's only a 125 so you should never have expected it to have a good top speed and you could've researched that before you bought it so don't knock the bike for that.
2. You knew it didn't carry passengers before you bought it so don't knock the bike for that.
3. If you knew anything about motorcycles you would know the difference between a bike with vs w/o a clutch and you could've researched it, too. Again, your own fault for buying it, don't knock the bike.
4. Don't do reviews.
Friendly critique: go easy on the edits. If you "um" or "uh" or pause for a second it's ok. The edits every 2 seconds are really off putting 🙂☮️❤️
Thanks for the feedback buddy. Much appreciated
@@calobster Unfortunately the 2022/23 Honda Trail 125 is NOT the same as the 2022/23 CB125F. The Trail is deficient in many areas. The Trail 125 uses a semi automatic 4 speed that robs nearly 1bhp, it is much heavier than a CB125F, it has 4 speeds versus 5 speeds and it does NOT have the new Honda ESP technology
New enhanced Smart Power (eSP) engine offers 27% extra fuel economy, with no loss of performance
Low friction technologies include offset cylinder, needle bearings for the roller/rocker arms and piston oil jet
ACG starter also generates electricity and contributes greatly to the engine’s 7kg weight loss
5-speed gearbox and sealed final drive chain
At the end of the day the Trail 125 does not have the nice LCD rectangular dash, it's engine design coupled with a centrifugal clutch makes it fully 2 bhp down yet with a few lbs more weight. The 2022 CB125F is 11bhp The 2022 Trail 125 is 9bhp.
100%
You better sell it to someone in Michigan.
You do realize that seats are literally for sale that You can put on the bike without modding
Don,t complain about availability, the cork soakers at Honda won t even import it to Canada!
The Honda Trail 125 is now available in Canada. I am the proud owner of the first Trail 125 sold in Quebec. But they are in short supply...
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Kind of makes me hate Honda. Why won't they produce more? It's like we merged with some bizarro universe where nothing can be reasonable.
Exactly, I have CASH. But I cannot find one. !!!!!!!!!!!! Bulshit man, the dealer said they can't get one even if I pay in FULL. I said whaaaat? WTF Honda
Availability is still rediculous!!
Your first point is stupid, you could have ordered one to your local Honda shop.
Its made for trails..not highway. As for a passenger. Put a pillow on the rack, and go.
Get the city bike and not this trail bike
Sounds like you shouldnt have bought this bike
I agree with first three