What Happened to Kellen Winslow JR?
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Kellen Winslow JR was once a phenomenal football player but now is in all kinds of legal trouble.
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Young man, I am 58yrs. old. Of all the broadcasters, storytellers, etc. I have seen, you are up there with the best of them. Straight to the heart of a story, all facts no fiction, and an obvious enjoyment for what you're doing. Great work. Would love to see you on The Herd.
Daniel Cain totally agree!
I was looking to add a comment and was scrolling to make sure nobody said what I said. You took the words out of my mouth.
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Opinion not fact
"I don't give a hell" is still one of the funniest phrases I've ever heard.
That whole interview was great. About what he's remembered for most since he's a villain.
Especially when one considers just how many F-bombs dude drops on the reg LOL !
I use it at least once a week.
Like when you a kid and thats the only cuss word you can say lol
I remember watching Winslow and Adam " Pac man" Jones going at it during college.
Hard to believe Pac man would have a longer career, and cause less trouble
I love how you never take shots at people, you just present the facts. You are a great source of info, entertainment, and inspiration.
Honestly the most important thing about these videos.
@@jeccwrs5495 That was not the point of my comment. In fact it had nothing to do with the subject, and was about FlemLo's style of journalism.
Facts
He took a shot at the Redskins Organization
He definitely called him trash and scum bag and some more shit,, those are shots
“You write that down”
Reporter: “oh believe me, I will”
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Dude doesn't give a hell about nothing
@@qhorton6743 He’s such a bitch.
I grew up watching his dad play. It hurts to see the issues that Sr had that had a negative impact on Jr. Much prayer needed.
This is so sad. I used to work for his wife when they were in TB and they looked like a loving family and she was a really sweet person too. I pray for his family and children.
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dopest story yet
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@@sugabearization lol
I feel like I have to take a shower after listening to this man's story.....
Cameron Wilson It’s pretty gross, isn’t it? I remember hearing about this awhile ago & I thought how fucked up it is that he could do this to women. Anytime I hear these kind of stories (rapey shit, serial killers) year they make me feel really uncomfortable. I don’t blame you for needing a shower.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 people have issues and lots of times it's their parents or some abuser who makes them like that
He got 14 years.. hopefully he'll never hurt anyone else again..
Except the child molesters in there with him. Yeah he should hurt them... ..
Those guys are as mentally messed up as him, they just aren't famous. Gotta keep them locked up since they can't control themselves but I don't know about corporal punishment
He shouldve got life
@@loganbremerman1248 yes u r right buddy
I played football for years. It actually kind of screwed me up. I taught myself to bottle up everything in life, all my aggression, anger, frustration, sorrow... everything that was negative, EVERYTHING, and let it all out on the field. I primarily played LB, and I was mean... really mean. I absolutely loved hitting people, my goal was to hit fools so hard they didn't get back up. The guy on the other side of the ball was the cause of all my pain, all my anger, all my hatred, and I'm gonna make him pay, make him feel my pain. And.... so I did. The problem was off the field I was really nuts. Because I bottled everything up, I'd end up losing control if something triggered me. I mean literally losing control, I'd see red, and lose all self control. I could see what I was doing, but couldn't stop myself. I'd just snap. It took me YEARS after I stopped playing to learn how to control my temper it was that bad. The only thing that kept me out of jail was that my pop always taught me, never hit someone in anger. He drilled that into me. So, when I would snap, I would demolish inanimate objects, walls, cars, anything I could get my hands on that wasn't a living thing. I remember when I was a teenager Mom slapped me across the face for calling dad an a$$hole, I snapped, put my head through the horse hair plaster walls a half dozen times before I regained control. The scariest thing was how big I was. I was 6' tall, and weighed 296. I had a 22" neck, and a 56" chest. Could bench 425, and lift half a ton on a leg press. When I enlisted the DI at the reception battalion said "jesus, you're the biggest guy we've ever had come through here. You only have to lose 12 pounds to make weight". The initially said I had to get down to 176 to make my weight to height ratio.
Anyway. If you bottle up your baggage, stop. Find a way of dealing with it. It's very unhealthy. I learned to meditate, I used to chop down trees with an axe. Anything you can do as an outlet to get that evil out of you, before it forces it's way out, in ways you can't control.
Damn dude, glad you found your way. Dont underestimate the power of finding a good therapist. Renting someone elses brain to help you sort your shit really pays off.
you're not alone...I have anger management issues as well but unlike you I'm physically the opposite, only 5'7" 165 lbs, and not muscular at all but I can be very ferocious if provoked...The things that trigger my volcanic anger usually stem from what I perceive as situations where one is taken advantage of, for example, bullies, animal abuse, or simply unprovoked attacks. I definitely need a release and holding in my anger negatively affects me physically. I scream into a pillow or take deep breaths and they both help. Ultimately, however, I would love to channel all that negative energy into something positive through meditation, exercise, and hopefully therapy but not affordable for me...anyways, good luck hope you found peace!
Mf you were leg pressing 1,000 lbs 🤯
@Ben Thompson that being said you should of been angry at your football coach for putting you at LB. I'm sure that being 296lbs you were a tad bit slow and you missed an incredible amount of tackles. In reality you should of been a center. I hope all is well for you now.
bro your story reminds me not only of me but handfuls of my friends and younger cousins. one of my cousins has a bit of a drinking problem and often ends up drunk and crying about how he "just wants to play football" and it's sad and truthfully i probably have CTE not just from football but from being needlessly violent and reckless. im glad u can at least talk about it my dude our society is sick in the way it tells you that your negative emotions are sin and you shouldnt have them. you gotta find a way to let out the tension that doesnt prepare you for prison or the grave. bless.
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14:18 Anybody else thought their phone brightness went down and attempted to turn it up? 😂😂
Patrick Clark yes sir
Me lmao
Lol yeah
I really enjoy the way you present these stories. Great stuff!
“I don’t give a hell” 😂😂 (2022 I’m still ctfu dawg😂😂)
He looks like the love child of The Rock and Vin Diesel.
They don't get along with each other, so more like...the Hatechild of The Rock and Vin Diesel. I refuse to apologize for that joke.
@@rusalexander1757 hu 78 bi bi
Nah, he looks like the son of kellen winslow.. dude is the spitting image of his dad
Vin Pebble
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Damn.. I still remember getting Winslow on madden back in the day... crazy seeing this so many years later...
Dude was my favorite TE in madden
@@Seto34 mine too.. I would get him and vick.. speed used to dominate that game back then
Dude was a beast in Madden 09
Holy shit I remember throwing so many passes to him on Madden 11 on career mode and I thought he was awesome. But now after seeing this, I can only imagine how much of a cancer in the locker room my player had to put up with.
I used him in college football 🏈 he caught everything
Bro you're videos are so well done, that once I start watching I can't stop 🤦🏽♂️🤣Keep up the great work 💯🙏
That was a solid story. Great job presenting it. Incredibly objective. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.
This is crazy man. in 2004 i remember as a Skins fan. we had the # 5 pick and had a chance to get Sean Taylor or KW2. I wanted Sean all day, something didnt seem right mentally with KW2. And Sean was killed RIP. but even knowing the future, i would still have drafted Sean T.
Unfortunate turnout for both guys :(
@@sway_9803 don't compare Taylor to Winslow
If not for the unfortunate incident, Taylor was on the way to a HOF career.
Very professional of you to talk about how he was brought up before getting into his legal situation. Not condoning his behavior, but realizing people don’t just turn into these monsters overnight.
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Yes, that behavior has a reason and I also thought of something that might’ve happened to him when he was a child because to just target that specific demographic of women is odd. I hope he gets help.
Treated him like ass so he became an ass... yea unfortunately it happens a lot...
I think the entire story should always be told. There's almost always determining factors as to why people do things they do whether it's abusive childhood, psychological issues etc.
I just don't like this idea now of victimizing criminals and no justice for the actual victims. Not calling him a criminal I'm just saying that's how it goes now
He had a privileged life. How the hell does that create a monster? Like everyone I know has a worse childhood. Whatever excuse you can make man..
I'm watching everything u put out and sharing. Good work!
You always have great videos man. Thank you for a detailed and interesting presentation. I also appreciate your common sense takes.
I knew this was coming after getting that ESPN notification the other day 😬
58 year old homeless woman, something is really wrong with him.
false news
I think Bill Cosby is his dad
Roid rage🏋🏼♂️
L J so true. Knew a guy who smashed his hand during a roid rage
He figured they were easy pray and wouldn't talk. Or wouldn't be believed if so.
Very well done young man. I’ve just subscribed and look forward to watching your other videos. Stay centered. Your approach is refreshing in these days of media mind control.
my dad actually knew the guy before everything happened, as he lived in texas for a little bit and they rode bikes together a few times. He said the guy obviously had a ton of CTE and was severely messed up in the head. he had a ton of short term memory issues and you could just tell something was wrong. you don’t gotta believe this as im just some random on the internet commenting this but i promise you it’s true. was super excited about getting a signed helmet for a few months before everything happened.
Ayy love ur channel man got like half my playlist off of there
Stfu bro all football players in that era had same attitude not something out of ordinary.. dont step over lanes you dont know trust me I know
@@johnross5087 Can you clarify your specific point ?
Exactly. Alot of People STILL don't know about CTE.
@@johnross5087 NO, YOU STFU, IGNORANT IDIOT ! He telling THE TRUTH. Alot of Players DID acted that way. They had CTE, too. That's WHY They SUED The NFL for $700M, DUMB🐴 !
No accountability, parenthood, teachers and coaches as well. This stuff was going on for years, no one wants to say my kid or friend is a rapist but let someone know or get him help.
“I’m a soldier” oh wow dude!!! I remember this when it happened and it was obvious something was up then. Even more sad now looking at what he turned into.
Yeah. Huge football fan. I saw that interview live. Couldn't believe it...
YohYamialwayzHIGH right?! I had completely forgotten about this craziness and being a huge HUGE college football fan I remember waking up to this on sports center and had to do a double take. At first I thought it was like a pre game hype up or someone just clowning.... NO, he really went there.
I’m not much into football. However, I grew up in Miami and they played that clip all over the news. It was a big deal then to just say ass on tv let alone fuck.
I’m not sad.
You were NEVER a soldier, you couldn’t hold a soldier’s jock strap.
You are so good at this. You put it all out there without judgement. You’re just an amazing journalist. Thank you for your content.
You always put great work into each video. Great job
So basically, he grew up in a highly toxic environment. Now, it makes sense. Never the less, everyone still has to be held accountable for their own actions. Good vid!
He didn't give a hell
@@danlincoln8987 lol
@@alegutierrez3819 Exactly... a culture that constantly allows people to make excuses for terrible behavior is only going fostering a culture for terrible behavior to continue or normalize en masse.
@@alegutierrez3819 that's my cousin also on MR .RLong side his dad was inducted into the Eastside Football Hall of Fame.
@@jacoreyjones469 hi ! so we are family through marriage
"money and influence allows you to get away with things other people could not"....that's called privilege
Yep black privilege the biggest and only real privilege there is
If he was poor they wouldn't have even bothered suing
Ya’ll are tribal as fuck
It's not a race thing, it's a social class thing.
Instead of attacking the idea of privilege, you guys chose to attack the idea of race and the idea of political parties. Seek help.
My gosh you are so right about the children. Way too many parents are like this. Unfortunately my daughter was one of them. I ended up taking her daughters for many reasons but that was also one of the reasons. I am so glad someone other than a doctor is discussing this. So many people will be hearing this and if helps one child I will be so happy. But I honestly believe you will help quite a few of them, a huge THANK YOU GOD BLESS
Dude! I just stumbled on you and your channel by chance and I am glad I did! You are incredible at story telling! So glad I found ya.
Maybe its a mix of CTE from his football days, and PTSD from his soldier days.
Zero8880 damn, that was clever 😆
comedy gold
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Realistically, I know you were making a humorous reference but there may be some truth to that. That fight in high school was already bad because of his size compared to the student so it was expected that some serious injury would happen, but the hits from college and his pro years may have intensified an apparent mental issue.
Lol
"I don't give a freaking frick"- Kellen Winslow Jr.
tom filippo 😂
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Sounding like Philip Rivers
😅he should have just said the words
This video was informative and insightful. Awesome vid man
Thanks for sharing. We all want stories of redemption. Hopefully, by you sharing this story, someone will be able to offer to help Kellen, and he will accept it. Rough, and needed. Prayers and best wishes for Kellen.
Bro please do What happened to Peter Warrick or Everett Golson! Great vid bro keep it up!
Jeff Buggs who is that
Yea Peter Warrick would be a good one
Yea Peter Warrick use to be one my favourite players
I live hear in tampa and Peter Warwick is the greatest athlete to ever come out of the tampa bay area he was a legend since little league. He had Heisman trophy hands down if that mall situation in Dillards never happened. Best wr Florida state ever had
Peter Warrick AND Laveranues Coles
You’re such a positive dude man. I love it. Thank you for being a source of positivity in a time where people are constantly being negative and hateful. I truly admire and appreciate you for that bro, for real.
Man your insights are outstanding. You do a phenomenal job.
Bro I just found your channel and I'm addicted! Love the content! Who Dey!🏆
So basically, Winslow Jr. is what happens when parents use their kids as pawns.
Phil Michaels no. Cant blame the victimizing of women on that tho.
No Winslow just happens to be a despicable POS all on his own
Sue co sign. He is a despicable guy.
Yeah but honestly hearing this story I think their are a lotta different factors at play as flemlo said it wouldn't surprise me if an older person (especially a woman) took advantage of him sexually when he was young but also just by going of his behavior in college you can tell he probably was never wrapped that tight upstairs
John Davis maybe he got some bad tendencies from his pops but he took it to a whole another level. Let’s be honest who knows what players did before when social media wasn’t around like it is nowadays and it was a lot easier to sweep things under the rug .
He looked surprised and then angry at his attorney. WTF? You're guilty, dude! I agree that something must have happened to him as a child but I can't feel sorry for him. That only justifies his actions and as a woman who was on the receiving end of a rape, it cheapens the damage he's done. I was 18 when it happened. I'm 60 now. It's a life sentence.
😢so sorry it happened to me as an youth very hurt still about it and I can’t trust anyone
Wow. Thanks for sharing your impactful story.
Love your content FlemLo. I'm Irish so I admittedly don't know a ton about the NFL/American Football. Soccer is my favourite sport, followed by Rugby, then GAA then probably Basketball or Cricket but your videos are so engaging. Love the research you put in and the way you deliver the content. Never miss a video and I always learn something I didn't know. Puts a lot of things in context for me so thanks man. Hopefully get to a mil subs soon!
Your story telling style is really compelling....love the videos....keep the content coming
Jeremy Shockey can have his own "What Happened to" video
5:04 sums it all up. I remember Daddy defending him after the “I’m a soldier” rant and I knew he was a spoiled punk. He finally either ran into a situation Daddy couldn’t fix or Daddy got sick of fixing it.
Great video!!you have a new fan! No bs,,no self drama,great content, very informative
Found a few of you videos, last week or so and I love your work, bro. Subscribed!
Aaron Hernandez: I shall call him mini me
J Dee Carter that’s a terrible thing to say bro. words have more power than you think.
Fuck your bitch ass THE GREATEST TE AARON HERNANDEZ
@@509Syndicateyeah that guy was a killer TE.
JD3Boi Its sad.
You wildin
How you not at 1 million subs yet, your videos are A1. Your content is honest the best on CZcams. I’m make sure all my homeboys check you out. Keep up the great work Dawg!!!
Another great video. I'm playing catch up to your current content, but i love your balanced take. Happy New Year.
First time watching a video from your channel, and I'm HAPPY that I did! Just subscribed too! This guy is so thorough and detailed and I learnt a lot!! Thanks! 👌👏💯
7:25 Kellen Winslow was on that Kev Hart Thugs speech🤣🤣🤣
kindley fernand “Yeah, real n***as, all day, just me, BY MYSELF, on the block😈🤬 holding it down! Gun at my waste, straight face 😐 “
@@veasley1215 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Holy shit that got dark fast. I thought I was prepared when you told me to brace myself. I was wrong.
You are incredibly talented and tell incredible stories. Glad I found you!
This is probably the 5th straight video of yours that I've watched and this is some top level reporting! FWIW I remember the Butch Davis days and the motor cycle accident was from Winslow doing a wheelie in a parking lot while practicing motorcycle tricks. It wasn't even normal motorcycle riding. His crash put him through like 2 small trees and his right leg went through the handlebars, which were completely split off the bike from the force of the crash. I have the crash pics saved somewhere that were posted on the DawgTalk message board back then.
all those millions and he could have just paid an escort for his urges. What a fool
I don't think it's about just the sex, more about the power dynamic involved in rape...
You would’ve thought
@No Comps some of these dudes don’t even kno how to speak during a interview let alone ah female an jus cause they in the nfl don’t mean they can have any female at will now they prolly can BUY any of the female gold diggers so them buying pussy would be the safest route or find a wife and marry her but rape is out the question
@No Comps C'mon man, some women, most women, respect themselves. This narrative that rich, powerful, famous people can get any girl is not reality. Its actually sad that people think that. More girls with less effort, of course. Certainly not "any" girl or "all" cheerleaders.
@No Comps Okag bro! At least you've gone done from whatever to most. It's still less than that.
The fact that this guy got less time than a dealer who sold some weed is insane. This video made me upset, but thank you for making it Flemlo.
DigBigger Nicks that’s the dumbass jury for you. Deadlocked on 8 counts. Would have got life if found on all.
You do your research and report it fairly...and we'll... It's tragic when people choose badly. We still appreciate hearing about players who don't get an incredible amount of press. Please keep it up. Thank you.
Wonderful storyteller. Blessings to you. You need to be getting paid big time for this because you are the best out there.
At 14:18, who thought something was wrong with their screen when it went dark?
Brandon Nash atleast I wasn’t the only one that panicked for a moment 💀
@Carter Freeman Movies lol I did the same thing
Haha. Me too
Man I thought my phones battery was dying smh lol
I did I try to touch the screen to get it bright again lol.
"They will kill you. They're out there to kill you. So I'mma kill them."
I, uhh...I don't think Kellen fully understood the rules of football.
Underrated comment
Mans was on one that day...and pretty much every day after 😑
Back then it was kill or be killed. Wasn't soft like today's game.
@@tmzebe530 Look man, I may not agree with all of the changes made to football over the last decade plus, but the game being made safer will never be a bad thing to me. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to have a life after football
I tell you the highlights from 80s and 90s nfl are just daaaammmn, now when you go back and look after watching today's games, qbs ended up under the opposing teams bench after a play lol
Very sad story. Good work Flemlo. Subscribed.
I love your stories. They are very informative and you never bash anyone just presenting facts
What a strange, sick and twisted man. This video continued stacking up with the sexual assaults and then the elderly women came into play. Dude got some serious issues and he's gonna get what's coming to him.
What's sad is had he not been caught doing these things, his acts could have got worse...
Dude I just found you on CZcams and you do great work. I was actually wondering about his whole story and you told his story remarkably. good luck, your future is bright.
Very informative video my brother! You did a superb job with this video. It's sad how people can have everything going for them but have some inner demons that will eventually destroy their entire lives. What these people don't realize is that their actions impact and hurt the people that is close to them and others. Great commentary!!!!
Great content man! I’m glad you made a video on what happened to WR Justin Blackmon enable for me to find your channel. Keep it up!!
What's up with TEs from these Florida schools lol
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On the other side of the coin though you have guys like Shockey, O'Leary, Graham and Olson who were (as near as I could tell) solid guys who had good work ethics, loved their families and stayed out of trouble. If you look at Winslow and Hernandez the problems that haunted them go way deeper than where they went to school, and we should remember that neither of them were born or raised in Florida.
Right.... smh 🤦🏾♂️
@Rowdy Jr. its the water
William Jr Pfann damn straight but I would like to add its Florida colleges they don’t represent us lol
Yup, if you want to just get the unbiased story from someone so passionate about the game and about people this is where you find it!!!!!
Yo flem lo, u fr made me try and brighten my screen at that “dark” part. I thought it was my phone lol. Nice editing my guy!
New subscriber here. This is how you tell the background of stuff. Ive seen so many bad channels this one is a breath of fresh air.
Bro your videos are the most well done, well thought out and professionally narrated on all of CZcams I swear you’re the 🐐.
Excellent job in reporting this story! I don’t think anybody would’ve done better!!
Excellent analysis, thank you!
You do a tremendous job on your videos. I wish all channels could be this professionally done. Thank You! and keep up the awesome work.
I know you *HATE* making videos like this man but you know what, this video serves as a life lesson. Give yourself some props B, you might've saved some people from *choosing* to make bad decisions with this 💯👌
You are a natural story teller. It’s easy to listen to you, and you clearly put in your work. This is a sad one truthfully told. Nice job young man!
I’ve spent all day at work bing watching your videos 🙌
Just stumbled on your chanel and i'm impressed and subscribed. Great content and delivery, no BS, Direct and to the point .
I know this is a hard video but I appreciate you making it flem
You’re a troubadour Flem! Written as smooth as your delivery. Keep it up boss!!
I am not even a sports fan but when the video about the player in Friday Night Lights popped up, i watched it because I had read the book and saw the movie. I was instantly hooked on this channel! Great commentary and story telling.!
Your voice soothes me. This is my 7th vid of yours I've watched. Love the detailed analysis and personal takes. Keep it up brother
Over the last couple months I’ve fallen in love with your very informational vids and respectful way you shoot them. Good stuff! Sub’d.
Young man I like your videos I like the way you do them and I like how you don't go on and give your opinion about ragging on other people you do real good proud to be a subscriber
Yo that was a great point about him possibly having been abused by an elderly woman and that caused his sexual deviation
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That’s the part I didn’t like, just speculation, idk doesn’t seem right
He definitely has some fetish for woman in their late 50s, and not very healthy looking ones. Homeless Hitchhiker's?that nasty
@@dominicm255 theyre the most vulnerable people he can find
Not an excuse
I find your videos to all be very fair minded, informative and most of all entertaining. Great work!!
Started watching as your stuff popped into my feed.
Subscribed after your speech at the start of this video and the research you do for your videos (love somebody after putting in the work aka your videos always hit) Keep it up!
Finally a host worth hearing. Good video young man. Keep them coming!!
Great editing, pace, and narration. Difficult subject matter, this is; how our heroes have fallen; you handle it with dignity. Thank you uploader.
You’re so good at explaining the darkest things in a very calming manor and it’s impressive as hell.
As a new subscriber after watching 2 videos I must say , Your a real ☝️ my dude, I appreciate the way you articulate things and how you always keep it as positive as possible from your perspective and opinion and just present the facts without taking a bunch of shots or poking fun at any situations.
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Love your videos, so well-done and informative. Keep up the great work my dude 💯