Rick Roderick on Nietzsche and the Death of God [full length]

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
  • This video is 4th in the 8-part series, Nietzsche and the Postmodern Condition (1991).
    Lecture notes:
    I. Nietzsche looks to see what type of person makes particular arguments or evaluations.
    II. Greek values are noble but naive.
    1. Active force prevails over reactive forces (things that stand over the human will).
    2. The active type is noted for its ability to forget.
    a. "Mirror historicism" involves people who wander idly through relics of the past.
    b. Memory is needed in Christianity for things like the redemption story.
    III. In Christian morality, reactive forces prevail over the active ones.
    A. Principles stand in the way of what you want.
    B. Christian achievements have always had some opposite perverse nature.
    C. The denial of power eroticizes the world in a brand new way.
    D. Sin is what Nietzsche thought was interesting about Christianity.
    E. The weak revenged themselves on the strong.
    F. In the Bible, the Devil introduces interpretation.
    G. Nietzsche does not deny the power of Christianity.
    H. Reactive forces endanger the species.
    I. Resentment and guilt are fundamental to the substructure of Christian discourse.
    IV. The spectre of nihilism:
    A. The aesthetic ideal expresses a will to nothingness (in the decadent period of Christianity).
    B. The problem in Christianity is not finding believers, but finding real people.
    V. Nietzsche's parable of the death of God:
    A. The parable talks about the drying up of a horizon of meaning and of a while form of human life.
    B. The parable from "The Gay Science" ("The Madmen") claims that we are responsible for God's death.
    C. How shall we comfort ourselves now?
    D. What are churches if not the tombs of God?
    For more information, see www.rickroderick.org
    A philosophy podcast, The Partially Examined Life, held a detailed discussion of Nietzsche, which can be found here:
    www.partiallyexaminedlife.com/...

Komentáře • 106

  • @nightoftheworld
    @nightoftheworld Před 4 lety +17

    41:46 *Duke chapel blasphemy* “All of the barons of tobacco (the Washington Duke family) all buried in state, not cardinals, not saints, not martyrs-no Thomas Aquinas, no Saint Thomas Moore, but George Washington Duke and his family. The buyers and sellers of America’s first international commodity: _tobacco._ The fortune upon which that church is erected and to which it is dedicated. What is that magnificent church now but the tomb and the sepulcher of God.”

  • @MKHobson
    @MKHobson Před 5 lety +53

    In the Zero Books intro, it always drove me absolutely *batshit* that I couldn't figure out what word Roderick was using when he said "live in the [???] between worlds ..." But this version has JUST enough additional auditory fidelity that I can now conclude he's saying "interregnum." Thank you, Dead Jesus!

    • @renaissancefairyowldemon7686
      @renaissancefairyowldemon7686 Před 2 lety

      I think you got title wrong the book Book Zero.....

    • @DirkKelly
      @DirkKelly Před 2 lety +3

      I'm here for exactly the same reason, Diet Soap / Sublation Media now as it were.

    • @Eastbayrob
      @Eastbayrob Před rokem +3

      Same. That line lives rent free in my dome.

    • @matthewmcdermott1955
      @matthewmcdermott1955 Před rokem +1

      @@renaissancefairyowldemon7686 He got it right. He's talking about a podcast.

  • @austink641
    @austink641 Před 3 lety +8

    17:29 That Aquinas quote though - oofff, that was dark.

  • @caylyn111
    @caylyn111 Před 5 lety +17

    rick is a legendary teacher

  • @leogorgone4414
    @leogorgone4414 Před 6 lety +37

    *quotes Joy Division* why isn't this man my father?!

    • @NewScottishGentry
      @NewScottishGentry Před 6 lety +12

      And Heathers! and he loves drinkin' and fightin' and bangin'. Wish this homie was still around!

    • @voyagersa22
      @voyagersa22 Před 2 lety +1

      Do you know what Joy Division song he quotes? Closest I see is Heart and Soul’s line “there’s no turning back, no last stand” (not “last man”)

    • @leomiller2291
      @leomiller2291 Před rokem

      For real!

    • @gengar1187
      @gengar1187 Před 10 měsíci

      Cos you're not a poet who lives in texas6

  • @nightoftheworld
    @nightoftheworld Před 4 lety +15

    28:20 According to Zizek though we are defined now by a type of cynical belief-in the sense that we claim to not believe, but actually believe more than ever quasi-nihilistically.

    • @andrewgodly5739
      @andrewgodly5739 Před 3 lety +11

      I mean this was at a time where there was still a working class spirit, but it was slowly dying, and a time not too far off from the fall of the soviet union. The current age is a culture more as zizek put it. A culture so consumed by capitalism that it's the new dominant religion. To even counter the foundations of capitalism causes people to have seizures. As if the population was born in an isolation chamber and never saw daylight.
      Question the logic of private property and you'll either be seen as a demon or as though you were mad. Like being burned alive for heresy in the dark ages.

  • @mythnow
    @mythnow Před 10 lety +25

    I'm really enjoying these videos. What a treat!

  • @7kurisu
    @7kurisu Před 11 lety +7

    its almost as if the world submitted itself to nice, dull and predictable lives in exchange for comfort, not having to think and enjoying a dominion over nature. our victory is so total we think nature to be quaint, including our own, and lack any real feelings. this is a great trial for humanity, one i doubt even the dynamic capitalism can endure

    • @jamescoughlin6357
      @jamescoughlin6357 Před rokem +1

      It is a trial sure, but our species will prevail

    • @janvierkasra3375
      @janvierkasra3375 Před 3 měsíci

      And prevail it shall, but in what guise does it cloak itself? The contemplation of its forthcoming form might indeed stir a fear more profound than we'd dare confront... and that's rather terrifying @@jamescoughlin6357

  • @willfourth
    @willfourth Před 10 lety +10

    I'd love to see a tombstone that said, "Bill O'Reilly...sold tires..."

    • @furiousflotsam
      @furiousflotsam Před 9 lety +2

      Not a fan of O'Reilly but what's wrong with selling tires?
      /

    • @stuka80
      @stuka80 Před 8 lety +3

      +john smith nothing, but instead focus on what that sentence was intended for, that O'Reilly is unimportant.

    • @christopherhamilton3621
      @christopherhamilton3621 Před 17 dny

      If only he did, instead of being a harbinger of what Fox News was to become…

  • @chipgowest
    @chipgowest Před 12 lety +4

    this is amazing. thanks for uploading!

  • @firesermon22
    @firesermon22 Před 11 lety +2

    this is how a good lecture should look like, thumps up!

  • @michaelhebert7338
    @michaelhebert7338 Před 6 lety +2

    Very well done thanks for sharing.

  • @existentialistmark6418
    @existentialistmark6418 Před 5 lety +20

    32:55 zero books clip

    • @tehzoh
      @tehzoh Před 5 lety +4

      zerobooks is worst channel ever

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 Před 3 lety +6

      Jessy Carthage EVER? Awh, come on, man!

    • @dethkon
      @dethkon Před 3 lety +4

      Jessy Carthage they’re a good publisher though. RIP Mark Fisher.

    • @jimmyv1607
      @jimmyv1607 Před 2 lety

      @@tehzoh Why is that?

    • @tehzoh
      @tehzoh Před 2 lety

      @@jimmyv1607 pure obscurism

  • @gijslimonard6583
    @gijslimonard6583 Před 2 lety

    Awesome post, thanks 👌🏻

  • @sighcity
    @sighcity Před 2 měsíci

    34:08 Rick Roderick reading The Madman. I just love how he reads it…

  • @trismegistus4275
    @trismegistus4275 Před 4 lety

    thanks for this series! wow. and the lecture notes too. I think they should say "mere historicism" not "mirror" though

  • @caylynmillard6047
    @caylynmillard6047 Před 6 lety +7

    Amazing teacher

  • @Kobe29261
    @Kobe29261 Před 9 lety +15

    What a teacher!

  • @raginald7mars408
    @raginald7mars408 Před 5 lety +4

    Enter your comments here...
    As a German Biologist Ph D -The first video I saw, I fell deeply in Love with this wonderful Man!
    A true Fossil.
    Now extinct.
    The last of this 19th Century Minds...
    I preserve each Atom of him.
    Thank God for the Videos he recorded!!!!!

  • @FourtyParsecs
    @FourtyParsecs Před 2 lety +3

    I'm here for 32:55.

  • @Cooliofamily
    @Cooliofamily Před 5 měsíci +1

    The righteous ire that he held for the bourgeoisie…. Unless we wish to die in that interregnum, in the world where the tobacco barons are the ones consecrated, we must quickly make up new ways to live. ✊

  • @NoelComiX
    @NoelComiX Před 11 lety +1

    No disrespect. Good talking to you.

  • @truesemite
    @truesemite Před 11 lety +2

    Though i'm a Marxist, i agree with Nietzsche that being utterly dogmatic about an ideology is taking it too far and takes away the agency of being an individual. being a Marxist doesn't mean you have to be a Stoic and shout "all is vain" I agree with Nietzsche that there's no sin in fulfilling ones desires, in a rational manner, since we only live once. hedonistic pleasure for Nietzsche is about being a free individual unrestricted by culture, including bourgeois culture, .i.e being yourself.

    • @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676
      @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 Před 4 lety +3

      @UNABOMBER MANIFESTO
      A dogmatic anti-Marxist? Opinion invalid and uncreative.

    • @dethkon
      @dethkon Před 3 lety +2

      UNABOMBER MANIFESTO At least she has an opinion (our Marxist friend; I don’t particularly care what your or anyone else’s political tendencies or ideologies are in this context).
      I find it interesting, most of it rings true, I’m going to think about it.
      But you, on the other hand, either have not taken the time to make of an interpretation of your own, or if you have, are too unsure of yourself to profer one. I find this offensive, or at the least, unproductive. “No investigation, no right to speak.”

  • @robertvillegas1953
    @robertvillegas1953 Před 2 lety

    My Hero! Soy del Paso Tejas !

  • @michaelmartelly5503
    @michaelmartelly5503 Před měsícem

    31:46 I feel the same way

  • @beaubostick6935
    @beaubostick6935 Před 3 lety +2

    Rip to the prophet Rick

  • @sammesserschmidt9317
    @sammesserschmidt9317 Před rokem

    "and today, world spirit may just be advertising"

  • @thisisnotkerdis8142
    @thisisnotkerdis8142 Před 2 lety +1

    anyone from mr shantz's class here

  • @gravenewworld6521
    @gravenewworld6521 Před 3 lety +1

    13:40

  • @jvladcliff4083
    @jvladcliff4083 Před 2 lety

    Wow!

  • @uberwolf1424
    @uberwolf1424 Před 22 dny

    43:00

  • @richk9126
    @richk9126 Před 8 lety +6

    Getting real drunk! Lol

  • @truesemite
    @truesemite Před 11 lety +1

    Examples of fall of Rome and third Reich are terrible counter examples to Nietzsche's arguments. Read him carefully and you'll find that he's completely opposed to mass ideology (Third Reich) or state power (Rome) his focus is on individual power not collective. Saying that his philosophy is responsible for the actions of some hippies or the Third Reich is the same as saying Jesus is responsible for the acts of the Vatican...also "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" Matthew 10:34

  • @tarhunta2111
    @tarhunta2111 Před 10 měsíci

    As soon as he mentioned Aquinas, i tuned out.

  • @happinesstan
    @happinesstan Před 3 lety +1

    Russell Crowe or Christian Bale could play this guy.

  • @happinesstan
    @happinesstan Před 3 lety +1

    "an eye for an eye leaves the entire world blind"
    That's the trouble with outsourcing.

  • @jamesferry1523
    @jamesferry1523 Před 2 lety +2

    He references both the movie Heathers and the band Joy Division at the 27 minute mark. This guy is awesome!

    • @voyagersa22
      @voyagersa22 Před 2 lety +1

      Do you know what Joy Division song he quotes? Closest I see is Heart and Soul’s line “there’s no turning back, no last stand” (not “last man”)

    • @jamesferry1523
      @jamesferry1523 Před 2 lety +1

      @@voyagersa22 Correct, with your correction on the lyric. He also slightly flubs the Heathers quote (it's "Woodstock for the 80s," not the 90s, but we'll cut him some slack.

  • @ubergenie6041
    @ubergenie6041 Před 5 lety +1

    I love some of these old videos but I can't help picturing those who gave up votes as a auditorium filled with the Kevin Kline character from the movie, "A Fish Called Wanda."

  • @ubergenie6041
    @ubergenie6041 Před 5 lety

    7:30 we here an example in support of the typology of the straw Christian that introduces a monk who is denying the flesh. Strangely after a year or so this monk is said to have eroticized everything. It is inexplicable as to how this happens or why a monk is in any way they standard for our straw Christian since having known 10s of thousands of Christians across the last half century of all stripes and denominations I have yet to meet one monk. Jesus and his disciples were not monastic. We do see monasticism rise in the 6th century through the early scholastic period the monks care for the poor and the weak and the infirm, and maintain the highest intellectual culture. Roderick or Nietzsche in the hands of Roderick seems to have an inexhaustible a out of straw qua the moral Christian archetype.

    • @nightoftheworld
      @nightoftheworld Před 4 lety

      Uber Genie I think he has a bone to pick with southern baptists.

  • @NoelComiX
    @NoelComiX Před 10 lety

    No disrespect

  • @NoelComiX
    @NoelComiX Před 11 lety

    But I will also say that people have free will and are responsible for their own actions. An ideology or mode of production can only ventriloquolize to a point.

  • @NoelComiX
    @NoelComiX Před 10 lety +3

    We'll have to agreed to disagree. lol But I think Nietzsche is highly over rated (especially in academia) and projected things he hated about himself on those he resented. I don't think God is dead, but Nietzsche's death of God parable is pretty much spot on concerning the role of religion in an industrial capitalist society (a society he was deeply molded by whether he wanted to admit it or not.)

  • @polarnj
    @polarnj Před 10 lety +3

    I'm so used to defended the left on here this is a strange position for me, but Nietzsche himself is the total antithesis of your description! Remember that Marx and predecessor Hegel lived under Capitalism and lived less ascetic lives than Nietzsche! He was essentially a monk in lifestyle. Don't dump Ayn Rand on him! ha. I see N and Marx as visionaries with uncanny foresight and flawless deconstructions of the 2 systems of Western control. Oh yea, and Dionysus is awesome!

  • @polarnj
    @polarnj Před 10 lety

    ugh, noel...While I'm aware you're conclusions are right in a hard left political context - the ONLY context for Orthodox Marxist interpretation, if i'm not mistaken. What philosophy could possibly be found acceptable to you if not based on historical materialism? And while it doesn't please me to say this, as it seems I'm now "post-left" and I cringe at mass consumerism, but although he was right to propose an alternative, speculative dialectics produced a flawed theory.

  • @benquinneyiii7941
    @benquinneyiii7941 Před 2 lety

    A sexual thought

  • @ubergenie6041
    @ubergenie6041 Před 5 lety

    11:30 "The first thing the devil does in the Bible is to teach Eve to interpret." Has Roderick lost his mind? The first instance of postmodern interpretation is when the serpent is said to "Deceive," Eve, by saying, "There is no authorial meaning in God's text!"
    This is such rampant anti-intellectual intellectualism that Roderick should be lecturing at Yale! Of course the old refrain of, "Your not properly interpreting Nietzsche," or worst, "Roderick," will be uttered by those who don't want to argue the evidence but would rather lay down a trail of red herring.

    • @applez4life200
      @applez4life200 Před 4 lety +3

      I think you're missing his point. The snake "deceives" Eve, by asking her to interpret meaning. The deception is a byproduct of her beginning to interpret God's authority.

  • @coolworx
    @coolworx Před 8 lety +2

    Does any one else think Neitzshe was channeling every adolescent boys selfishness?

    • @kagame6524
      @kagame6524 Před 8 lety

      +Noah Namey Hmm, how so?

    • @charlescascales647
      @charlescascales647 Před 7 lety +8

      No. Nietzsche was extraordinarily generous and not a materialistic person. I've read nearly everything he wrote as well as his letters to his friends. He was not selfish in any way.

    • @coolworx
      @coolworx Před 7 lety +2

      Charles Cascales But he was very much elitist. There's always been a class war raging.

  • @ubergenie6041
    @ubergenie6041 Před 5 lety

    6 mins in we get a strawman version (I assume it originates with Nietzsche not the speaker) of Christian teach about loving one's enemy). These strawmen work marvelously on the uneducated but produce undercutting defeaters that attenuate the polemic every time they occur for those who have had the benefit of a logic 101 class.

  • @hopelessstrlstfan181
    @hopelessstrlstfan181 Před rokem +2

    Well, he's fun to listen to & he's also part of the movement that led to the mess the West is in now that we're in 2022.

    • @lutherblissett9070
      @lutherblissett9070 Před rokem +5

      you're completely wrong

    • @hopelessstrlstfan181
      @hopelessstrlstfan181 Před rokem +2

      @@lutherblissett9070 , OK. Sorry, I stand corrected. He actually has in no way promoted the ideas which are currently undermining the legacy of Western Civilization which introduced the concept of Citizenship, Republican Forms of government, Universal Inalienable Rights (which led to the West being the 1st Civilization to fight against the Woldwide Institution of slavery & the fact that American Blacks are the wealthiest Black population in the world despite the tragic history we all acknowledge) & etc when he instead promoted the ideas from the radical strain of Continental Philosophy which called for the undoing of Western Civilization & he further made the dialog which is fundamental to democratic & republican institutions more difficult by inculcating contempt in his students (of a prestigious University which like other such Universities essentially are the formers of the ruling orthodox ideology of the Administrative State & the MSM) for the institutions of Western cultures & those who would defend them. Thanks for straightening me out. I was such a fool to think that this professor who was a 1960's radical Marxist who admitted his interest in anti-estanlishment activities & whose works included the promotion of the Frankfurt School & Critical Theory (a Marxist philosophy, look it up on the Stanford University website known as "The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy," it's free and has lot of peer reviewed articles) actually believed what he taught & had an influence via his students at Duke & the Teaching Company who promoted his work outside of the classroom. Silly me. I was such a fool. Thanks, bro

    • @lutherblissett9070
      @lutherblissett9070 Před rokem +2

      @@hopelessstrlstfan181 I accept your concession.

    • @hopelessstrlstfan181
      @hopelessstrlstfan181 Před rokem +1

      @@lutherblissett9070 & my sarcasm as well. You can't have one without the other, amigo.

    • @plaidchuck
      @plaidchuck Před 2 měsíci

      Keep blaming that boogeyman for all of your perceived ills