RNS510 errors and fix volkswagen skoda columbus weird boom sound, reboot loop, stripes in screen
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2021
- Many possible problems show up in this video and they are all related to PIC16. In case you can't fix this yourself. Let me know.
1:05 Boom boom sound, screen flashing/flickering to black screen. Unit unresponsive.
2:00 Unit works but screen flashes/flickers
4:00 Unit taking long time to boot after hitting the dashboard
5:16 Unit buttons unresponsive, no sound, slow screen on off fade
5:40 Screen not working. Vertical lines in screen after hitting dashboard.
6:50 Disassembly Unit
9:10 Culprit and FIX: Chip PIC16 marked. Needs to be re-soldered. And problem solved.
fix at the end of video
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1:05 Boom boom sound, screen flashing/flickering to black screen. Unit unresponsive.
2:00 Unit works but screen flashes/flickers
4:00 Unit taking long time to boot after hitting the dashboard
5:16 Unit buttons unresponsive, no sound, slow screen on off fade
5:40 Screen not working. Vertical lines in screen after hitting dashboard.
6:50 Disassembly Unit
9:10 Culprit and FIX: Chip PIC16 marked. Needs to be re-soldered. And problem solved.
fix at the end of video
Beste Rupa Customs,
Dank voor het delen van dit filmpje en de oplossing. Sinds een aantal dagen heb ik helaas hetzelfde probleem. Omdat ik gek werd van het geluid heb ik de zekering er maar uitgetrokken 😅.
Denkt u dat deze reparatie ook door een leek - want dat ben ik - uitgevoerd kan worden?
@@yassin7543 Zolang je flux gebruikt en een fijne punt op soldeerbout is het niet zo moeilijk. Je kan altijd oefenen op een oud defect apparaat of een moederbord van een pc. haha ja zeker om gek van te worden
@@rupacustoms90 Dank voor uw reactie. Wordt enorm gewaardeerd 🙏🏽. Ik ga een poging wagen, maar misschien is dit ook wel het moment om voor een ander autoradio/navigatie te gaan met veel meer mogelijkheden dan de originele van VW.
@@yassin7543 Klopt alleen zover ik weet werk op geen enkele je achteruit rij camera. I heb er op dit moment een after market in zitten en ga de originele er weer in zetten. Na een jaar begon hij weer met boom boom. Geen tijd gehad om te kijken of hersolderen het weer oplost. Nooit geen VW meer voor mij, bagger auto's LOL, terug naar BMW. Ik zet de originele er weer in, nieuw. En verkoop dat bagger ding LOL. Heeft je koppeling al vast geplakt gezeten op de bodem? 20 euro onderdeel, maar je hele motor moet omhoog getakeld worden en je versnellingsbak eruit. 1600 euro werk voor 20 euro onderdeel haha. om 1 van de dingen te noemen. Kan ook aanraden je pano dak slangen met polymax vast te zetten alvorens er 40 liter water in the tapijt zit. Mn buren hebben een nieuwe passat, exact het zelfde slangen systeem, binnen 3 maanden lekkage in de auto.
@@rupacustoms90 ik heb er nu één gevonden en besteld (Avison AVN-R810) waarvan de verkoper aangeeft dat alle originele functies van de auto bruikbaar blijven incl. de camera. Mijn auto heeft geen achteruitrijcamera dus dat zal geen probleem zijn 🤣.
Het probleem dat jij beschrijft, ken ik (nog) niet🤞🏾🤣.
Dit werkt echt
Hij doet het nog steeds uitstekend
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Thank you very much for this video and the tip to re-solder the PIC and the ICs around it, since then my RNS 510 works perfectly again! 👍
Awesome! good job!
Thank you ! 🎉 Works for me fine, but a Lot of disabling
Late reply awesome! good job. Did it hold up after 1 year?
Hi,
Just a quesion:Instead of resoldering, is banking an option to renew the solderings? Do you think it can work to put the Mainboard in the oven for a few minutes? I remember that it worked for other Mainboards also in the past(eg graphic card) . Best regards
Hi. I've finally found someone who has the same problem as I have. Im not confident enough to solder the unit itself but I'm guessing installing a new head unit (instead of repairing the old one ) would fix the issue. My friend has offered me one as he has upgraded his system
Yeah the problem returned after a year. bought an after market one, but rather have the original again. Camera issues. So when i have time it's soldering time again i guess lol
Mine some times shuts off and refuses to turn on again and then turns on by itself and other times it doesn't reboot, even with an external PSU.
I tried to plug it via serial port and it seems to be impossible to communicate with. Could this also fix it?
i get a notification of your message, but its not here???
Chris S. commented: "Hey there, was excited to find your video as it exactly aligns with the issues I have with my unit. I assume you are located in NL, I myself am in Germany. Would you be able to fix my unit if I sen..."
Ai cumva ideie dece nu se mai aprinde deloc totul e mort siguranța buna altul dacă pun functioneaza.nu se aprinde deloc
souag reply below: Hello, thanks for these informations, I may need to do the same job on an rns510 station. if I understood correctly all the problems come from the soldering of the pic16 which must be redone. concerning the amplifier module, you only put a new thermal paste to be sure that the cooling is done correctly. Do you know why the amplifier is defective when it is put back into service? An obdeleven tool is very expensive, it would be better if you could do this troubleshooting without needing to use it.
yes the chip has a bad connection. It is not broken. Just solder the connections again of the PIC16 . It doesn't hurt to solder the parts in the marked purple area. I have done that. But PIC16 is the issue.
Correct I only put thermal paste because there was none and with firmware 5238 you get an extra menu with temperature readings and mine was 72C, which i found to hot.
The amplifier is not defective, just because RNS510 system wasn't working properly an Error code was written in a module. YOU ONLY NEED THE ODB SCANNER IF YOUR SPEAKERS SOUND BLOWn UP (over amplification) AFTER REINSTALL. Then With ODB scanner you need to remove the error and everything work as normal. Perhaps CARLY is cheaper than ODBELEVEN, but I do not know if it works I bought ODBELEVEN. I did not buy the ODBELEVEN for the amplifier issue, I had an airbag light error (panoramic roof drains were clogged and I had a bad leak in the roof, which caused my airbags to go nuts). WHen reinstalling the rns510, the speakers didn't sound right so i did another scan and found the amplifier error and removed it and everything is back to normal. I haven't had a single issue in 4 months and other are having no problem either.
Be sure to use flux with your soldering tin. And use a soldering iron with a point tip. Magnifying glass is useful. Or ask someone that has soldered before. It's very easy to connect 2 pins while soldering so be careful.
Thanks Rupa Customs for your quick response.
I heated the pins with flux to properly resolder pic16, and also added thermal paste to the amplifier module. After reinstalling the radio in the car, it worked for a few minutes before switching off. I tried unsuccessfully to turn it back on, only heard a click in the speakers twice and quickly saw a red light once.
the problem is still not solved and maybe it is the same as this: czcams.com/video/q0PkQtzHMIo/video.html
Unfortunately, I do not understand the explanations in Italian correctly.
Apparently it's a bad connection between the first pin of the black connector and a capacitor but I don't see where he soldered the strap.
Maybe you will understand better than me by watching the video and be able to explain to me?
@@souag963 No Romanian here either haha, but the PDF described below covers part of the video. www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/521028-RNS-510-CAN-BUS-CHIP-PROBLEM/page2 maybe this? Post 13 (need to register, post hellloooo in new people section, wait 15min) / Post 20 (you can use 10k resistor, a wire, or replace chip) / Post 31 has a pdf in dropbox, but german. if copy the text into google translate it translates it correctly i've checked. Pin1 often needs to be resoldered.
So summarized:
-Resolder Pin1 as pointed out in PDF (STEP 7 and 8)
-Create a bride/bypass on TJA1054T/TJA1055T chip: Pin 14 (BAT) to PIN10 (Vcc) either with a wire, 10K resistor. (or replace chip)
You can also buy a new Original Power Amplifier board FOR VW RNS510 $3.6 on ali
www.aliexpress.com/item/33035500071.html
You're lucky I saved all the links from my search lol
@@souag963 I made some screen shots and put on imgur imgur.com/a/M2MR9DY
i figured out what the Romanian not italian is babbling about. If you turn off his voice, it's easier to follow haha.
At 7:19 in "Italian" video he solders the red wire (on the other board of STEP9 PDF) ---->>>> then he goes from RED to some connector with 2 wires black purple, the black and purple he solders together as 1 wire, WHY??? don't ask me ---->>> at 7:37 he solders the 2 wires in one spot and that spot is in PDF STEP10
www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/521028-RNS-510-CAN-BUS-CHIP-PROBLEM/page3 POST 31
I made some screen shots and put on imgur
imgur.com/a/M2MR9DY
So what the Romanian is doing is bypassing the RESOLDERING PIN1 of what the German is doing in the PDF.
found this one on facebook perhaps easier?
de-de.facebook.com/RNSReparatur/photos/a.975261022541657/3551311358269931/?type=3&theater
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Hi Rupa Customs, thank's a lot for your help that I really appreciate. Sorry for delay, I'm actually busy with ohter jobs and I don't have the radio with me. I read the post about can module problem but in this case it's little bit different. Please be patient few days, I will send you an detailled answer. I would really like save it.
have a good week-end.
Oh man this rns 510 is pain in the ass , i had a similar problem when i lost the sound and now i can't find anyone who can fix it
@Rupa Customs Hello, watching your video, I see that you had two problems:
1- The problem of turning on
2- The problem of the display that interferes (which is also the problem I have)
problem I have)
how did you solve the second problem please?
damn my messages get deleted. 3rd time. One more time lol, this time copying my message lol
all my problems were solved by resoldering the connections of PIC 16 circled in red in the video. Just a bad connection, the chip worked fine. thats all i did.
@@rupacustoms90 thanks for the quick answer. tomorrow I'll try to resolder the chip too and keep you informed.
@@ingenieur9025 Sure no problem. Not sure if you have updated your firmware, but with the newer firmware you can enter 3rd menu and look at the temps of the chips. Perhaps something is overheating, I applied thermal paste where possible. It's summer and hot. Also shown in video
@@rupacustoms90 hello I do a bit like in the video, without success.
Now, as soon as I turn on the player, it does barely 10s and turns off.
The CD is stuck inside, and I can't get it out.
@@ingenieur9025 no connections connected to each other? heated it up to much? can't imagine a resoldering job fucks the whole thing up. Used flux? It's a delicate job and just requires a pointy soldering tip hot enough to quickly flash the tin.
Did u manage to resolder the chips again
Why would this happen, it seams solder joints broke near the chips but why, is it the vibration in the car thats the problem
PS: how hard is this to solder, any tips?
sorry for the delay in responding, pretty easy to solder with a loop magnifier, some soldering flux, and a sharp tip on the soldering iron. You only have to reheat it with some flux and everything is connected again. Why it happens? Perhaps bad manufacturing/a lot of components seem to get hot on the unit/and yes maybe vibration and slowly causing fractures in the soldering.
Hallo, ik heb deze probleem sinds gister kunt u dit voor mij oplossen en is er iets waar ik u kan contacteren
customdesigns@ziggo.nl
Teitkö tuon fixauksen itse vai liikkeessä? Itsellä tismalleen samanlainen vika, bassot vaan jumputtaa ja hermot menee... Prkl!
This has recently started to happen to my 2012 unit. The problem came 100% from vibration. I drove over 3 cattle grids on my way to Felbrigg Hall (Sunny Norfolk). When we got back to the car the sound you are hearing one on start up happens….. then down the road 10mins it’s like the power has been cut and it restarts. I’m wondering whether it will be a cable or if it’s completely ruined the unit. Will take it out and check for anything visible but I will be clueless after that. Bring back the 80s please ☹️☹️
Howdy neighbor, sorry for the delay in responding, Dutch here. at the end of vid 9:10 of the picture you can see what needs re-solder. Te PIC chip, circled red, usually works, if not re-solder every circled in purple.
J'ai le même la chose sur ma voiture du coups c'est la carte graphique de l'autoradio qui déconne pour me dépanner j'ai mit une simple cale qui appuis sur la carte graphique, et cella fonctionne.
I don't understand french, did it work? (google translate:
avez-vous résolu le problème?? ) 😂
The problem comes from the motherboard which burns the hs car radio
Bonjour, j'ai actuellement le même probleme, pouvez vous préciser ce que vous avez mis et où pour réparer le votre ?
Merci !
Bon du coup ça fonctionne plus, ça ma dépanner et ce qu'il se passe le ventilateur ne refroidit pas assez du coups la carte mère chauffe.
Would you fix my rns510?
The problem came back after a year, i bought an after market system. As I could no longer stand hearing that sound again 2 hours away from home haha...
@@rupacustoms90 oh no... it's sad to hear that the issue recurred again, would resolder the chip again help ?
im not able to replace my rns510 with a aftermarket device cause there is a oem rear cam and a premium bt system connected to my rns
@@AlperGulhan Yeah i found that out as well haha, got full option and cam and such are not working.
I haven't had time, can try resolder it again
@@rupacustoms90 Thanks for sharing your gahterings! We exchanged the circuit board 4 months ago and now the issue occurs again :/