Lia Thomas, the first openly transgender swimmer to win the NCAA, speaks out | Nightline
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- After Lia Thomas won the 2022 NCAA Division I championship in Women’s 500-yard freestyle, she ignited a national debate about fairness in Women’s sports, transgender rights and identity.
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What an absolute slap in the face to every female athlete absolutely ridiculous.
A slap in the face to every REAL woman.
I hear ya!
@@robbase5235 I know what you meant but I desagree. There are woman and there are men. To say there are real and fake women is to acknowledge that fake women are somewhat women. As far as I’m concern there are women (xx) not real women
@@SergioSoaresRibeiro I disagree completely. To say that a fake woman (i.e., a trans woman) is somewhat a woman, by definition is incorrect.
Real is defined as "actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed."
Fake is defined as "not genuine; counterfeit."
So by definition, your comment is inaccurate, and me calling them REAL woman is well within reason.
@@robbase5235 yes but if so, to say real woman is to say woman. Both would be the same. In that case, de adjective (I hope this is the right word in english) os pointless, therefore it implies there must be a meaning. In portuguese (my tongue) we call that “redundancy” or “pleonasm” (again, I dont know if these mean the same in english). Those are gramatical errors or, if not, they mean that you are implying that the noun, in that case, has a lesser meaning than usualy. In this case if you say just “woman” it can only be the “normal” meaning; if you say “real woman” you imply women can be divided in two groups real/fake but both of grose two groups toghether make the larger group of woman
You can’t tell me that people don’t see how wrong and unfair this is for biological females. If I was on of those girls, I think I’d quit.
it feels like 'the emperors new clothes' right?
@@rachelblack314 People are afraid of speaking out against the transgender supporters who push this agenda. Cowardice has brought us here.
Those girls, hate it. And if they say anything about it they bring in an alphabet community expert to tell them why there wrong.
Indeed, just organize a massive walk away.
@@Nierez the problem is the female athletes are too afraid, wich is just going to continue unchallenged.
"It's not a threat to women's sports." Tell that to an accomplished high school athlete who just lost a college scholarship.
Thomas took away a girl's spot in every competition he was in. He has no shame. A selfish being who steals other people's opportunity.
This is not about Lia Thomas having a right to be female. This is about the right of biological females to a fair competition.
I thought this is about memes, because the whole thing sounds ridiculous and stupid.
I agree
right or no right to be female; with a body full of xy genes it is impossible for this guy to be a biological female. Not our gift as humans to give. Just maybe acceptance. While this guy still has a testicularly and phallically induced bulge in his ladies' swimsuit I personally feel unable to accept him as a female, even if he responds to a girl's name and has long hair.
And it's about MEANINGFUL records. She doesn't have a completely female body. She can't set female records.
@@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755 exactly
I don't care about him/her. Good for whatever choice you've made. But that's you. This is 1 step forward for you, 100 years of steps backwards for women's rights. Go swim if you enjoy it, stop casting a shadow over every other biological woman who has trained hard for their entire life. This is literally a slap in the face to women's rights. I am genuinely embarrassed by this gross display of an abuse of the system. Whatever is going on in your mind to make you feel like a woman is not related at all to the male body you most surely have. If it truly is all about the love of the sport for you, then compete with people at your level, other men.
His body is so much bigger and obviously more powerful than the bodies of the women he competes against. This is so wrong.
I’m a hardcore doper. Love it. PEDs for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I should be banned from competing but I just decided to identify as a Man who doesn’t take PEDs…
Easy Peasy.
But yes as you say this case is an utter joke because she claims she loves the sport but isn’t happy not competing…
I love loads of sports I can’t compete in… cos I’m a doper..
I am happy that Leah Thompson is comfortable with her sexual identity and good for her. But, I think she is abusing her position as a new woman and destroying women's sports in the process. She already has built-in male advantages from puberty as a male and is using them. She should only compete against trans-women and other men. Competing against natural women should be off-limits!
@@liljade53 *her
@@ms_go_away6129 Him
Dude walked into a women's lockroom and exposed himself. That's a felony!
HE 💯 % Switched sides to win because he couldn't beat a man. He didn't even beat the woman they tied. He is 100 % a MAN and he's built different from women.
It's not right and they shouldn't allow him on the women's side. And in the locker room even. That's disgusting. He He He should be ashamed of himself.
Very true. And Lia used female lockers before even surgically removing male organs. That's violation if you ask me.
I truely believe that every person has the right to be happy no matter how that looks. But you can't tell me that Lia DOESN'T see the size and power advantage she has from transitioning well beyond puberty.
honest question, but as a woman, what are your thoughts on trans women in sports (like the swimmer Lia Thomas)? Biological men, which is what she was born as, possess more lung capacity and muscles, and now she's beating women in events. Should there be a separate competitive category for trans?
@@daxmiller35 Yes there should be. Neil Degrass Tyson suggested having classes like boxing does, welterweight, fetherweight, etc, etc. But the fame and money is all in heavyweight. Since women rarely get as big and strong as male athletes, where does that put them in terms top ranking? Top rank for women is not the same as top rank for men.
You realize that by calling this guy a "she" you essentially destroy any chance of your argument being remotely coherent, right? This is a dude who doesn't care about any of the women he dominates competitively or violates by exposing himself to them without their consent in their locker room. He doesn't deserve any respect or consideration. He's a degenerate scumbag.
Doesn't anyone have balls around here??!! He sure does.
I'm from the future.
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After that, 93 % of the world snapped back into reality, and got together with President Musk, and put everyone who used the term "LatinX" on a consensus"...into a SpaceX rocket, and shot hem out to space...
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And the world became wonderful!
He*
Don't care whatever anyone says, that's a straight up dude in a onesie
Came here to make this same comment. That is so clearly a dude.
Fax ma bro
Saw this comment at another outlet and it 100% expresses how I feel about the Lia Thomas controversy: 'How is is fair for biological woman to swim against a biological man who has longer arm reach, wider shoulders, larger lung capacity, bigger heart chambers, larger vascular system, longer legs, more muscle density and narrower hips?'
One year of hormones changes none of those traits. There really is no logic in the NCAA criteria. They are to blame for this. He followed their rules, but it's still unethical & nothing to be proud off.
Sick, sick world we live in today!
I feel really bad for the female competitors who've worked so hard but cant really compete w/a biological male. I have no hate for trans people but this is a question of fairness. Period.
👏
Period 👌🏼
This is a Disgrace and Hypocracy of the DemoRats ! But You women Keep voting for them ! How many times do you want to be Bitch Slapped by them ?
Why ?
@@gauge6513what why?
Why can't there be a transgender category for sports? It's not transphobic to call a thing a thing. Mind you I'm trans. You can be as unlockable as you like but the truth is truth, we're different and that's okay. Some things yes we can occupy the same spaces as natural born women. But there's times where it's not fair or right to intrude. We should understand how hard it is for them as trans women and respect it.
It’s a mental health issue and there are some good therapist out there to help you understand your confusion
Transphobe!!!
they would not be able to make a living off of it. There arent enough trans people in sports to have an entire section like that (likely being in fear of having comments made like others under this video too them.)
Agreed! I think trans women need to stay out of sports in the vast majority of situations. And same with prison. No male violent/sexual offender should be housed with females for obvious reasons.
@DIARRHEA XL yes. That's why I vote blue.
Leah it’s ok for you to change that doesn’t mean you have to disregard the rights of all the women in your sport
God what an absolute absurd situation. I am 53 years old which means I can't compete in the under 12's no matter how much I FEEL 11.
I'm with Richard Dawkins on this one. When it comes to athletics (as opposed to something mental, like academics), your biology (sex) is what matters, not your psychology (gender). She should have either competed in the men's team or in a separate league for trans and nonbinary athletes.
He did compete against men. He was bad, ranked over 200th.
"Decided" he was a woman, became #1
Even trying to divorce one's psychology from their biology does not make sense. The latter highly influences the former.
@@jamespgray6928 this is known to be a lie, so I guess I'll just ask for a source. When you look at time placement instead of rankings, there is a lot more questions to the legitimacy of the claims. She's also not rank 1, she won a single race at a single meet and didn't break the record omegalul rank 1 in your dreams.
@@mackenzied.9912 He won an NCAA Title(not just one race). And he was actually ranked #462 in 2019 before saying he was a "woman".
@@mackenzied.9912 how isnit a lie when we saw it for ourselves? We don't make absurd claims with zero evidence like the Trans community does.
I feel sad for all those women who were in competition 😢
Chicks with Dicks, ruined it for everyone.
Think about that one dude. Ponder that for the evening.
He knew he won't win in men side so he came to women side .it is shame on him and shame on system .
Women needs to stand up
You having a long hair, even curling it, doesn’t mean you are a woman, you will never be a woman. When I was young, I feel like skipping school, and I told my mom the truth, I skip school, do you think my mom believed me? Even after I told her how I felt? No! Cuz people lies! Just because he said he is a woman, he can also be lying. We are human. Why did the authority let him join women’s group In the first place! Now he acts like a victim, for the mess he asked for it. This is what trans people do. Act like victim and manipulative
He must be incredibly proud of himself. At the end of his life he will be able to say "I beat lots of women in swimming and took the chance to have fair competitions, for which they worked hard for years and years, away from them."
What an incredibly selfish human being.
Trans dying of old age are few and far between.
💯
Agreed. Especially agree with referring to him as a him. Such people are NOT female and should not be referred to with female pronouns.
I am glad that "she" is happy.
But they should not compete against biological females.
No need to be hateful.
@@moniqueengleman873 he
I don't care how many drugs or hormones Lia Thomas as taken, she will always have an advantage. Do these hormones shrink her hands or feet? Both huge advantages in swimming. Did these drugs make her cardiovascular or respiratory systems smaller? What's worse is that Thomas knows this and still accepts all the accolades and awards with a big smile on it's face.
Don’t forget the lung capacity is bigger in men. So biologically she’s got bigger lungs.
She claimed her feet shrunk a full shoe size
He*
It's a she now. Hormones can change men into women! She has all the right to compete in the women's category.
@@johnnyj2066 Put 100 women and 100 men on island (A). In 100 years you’ll find a thriving community of men, women and children. Now put 100 trans women and 100 men on island (B). In 100 years you’ll find nothing but death and 200 skeletons of biological men. In a world of confusion ask yourself a critical question. If everyone were to live like they did on island (B), would humans continue to exist? If the answer is No, then this way of living is not suitable for mankind. It really is that simple, and don’t let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise.
I wish someone asked him why his happiness was more important than basically every woman he is competing against. The truth is the other competitors don't accept him, he knows this and is completely unbothered by it. Lack of empathy is the definition of sociopathy.
What a winner!
Let’s all be very deadass rn, the issue is not that Leah is transgender. The issue is that she has biological advantages that are the literal reason why sports are already separated by gender. I don’t support hating her but I also don’t think it’s fair for the other girls.
Perfectly said.
Read between the lines…….. “it’s been a goal of mine for a very long time to swim at olympic trials and I’d like to see it through” HE knew HE wouldn’t make it to the tryouts as a man! He’s a narcissist & a coward!
He is a fraud. He is depraved and a fraud. Narcissistic behavior to the extreme.
Paris Olympics have banned him from competing against women! 🎉 he can try to qualify for the mens team though 💪
I don't want to hear from him, I want to hear from all the women whose lives he wasted
It isn't anti-trans to feel that transwomen against CIS women is unfair. Quite a few transwomen agree with this.
So man beats woman congratulations what a joke
I’m not hating on Lia or anything but as a swimmer, your sex really does matter. There’s a reason why there are separate events for boys and girls at meets. It’s just not fair to the girls who worked to their highest ability only to get beat by someone who’s athletic ceiling is higher.
Its not Lia
Its williams and will always be a "He"
One of the female swimmers he competed against has spoken out in several interviews here lately. She said that he came into the locker room and changed with his male appendages all out. It made them all so uncomfortable and they were told to deal with it. This is so wrong.
WoW, yes that is offensive!
can u give us a link?
@@janinewetzler5037 czcams.com/video/f_TjTVA1W3c/video.html. I think she starts talking about two minutes in
@Steve ...watching 6 min in and no mention...
@Steve 6.5 min in, THE CO-HOST speaks of Lia Thomas using the same change room as the rest of the women's team. Riley Gains isn't allowed to interject fully until 7:27min.
Unfair to female athletes
Why's it so difficult for people to comprehend that this cannot be? Like Ms. Navratilova said in the documentary "That male DNA is burnt in"! No matter what you do, there'll always be that, that "Cannot be denied".
It's going wishy washy women's competition.
He can't win against actual men, so....
Can't believe she literally had the balls to do this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And yet everyone still says she is beyond me!!
He*
The society, system and education empowered and enabled him to do all this.
LMAO
He doesn't get any respect for beating women athletes. Riley Gaines actually tied this man but the photo op was better with this dude in it. Im so disgusted but very proud of Riley Gaines.
Lia Thomas: This is not a threat to Women's sport. What an **shole.
It's about how he feels. Egotistical.
The worlds gone absolutely mad
Smh it's a shame
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Now he’s banned thankfully but it’s too late because he still has the trophy, meaning he’s taken the spots from the women he won against.
It’s interesting how MTF trans people will talk about how they lose muscle mass when they start taking estrogen…but then reject the idea that cis women, who have essentially been on high doses of estrogen their entire lives, aren’t at a disadvantage when it comes to muscle
When a woman that thinks she's a man "transitions" into a man, and shows to be dominant in male sports, I might listen. But that will never happen.
Hah! Omg, ZChristina! What a brilliant point you have made.
I have never thought of it that way. Brilliant!
Or evolution. Evolution says men's bodies and brains evolved to be gather hunter and women didn't.
Also estrogen preserves bone density in women so men taking female hormones will end up preserving even more of their bone density then before
Women's muscles are actually more efficient than men's, this is just overlooked by men having highest total load. Also it's based off testosterone, not estrogen.
There's no way that is fair to the actual women competing I don't care what gender he identifies as he's still a man no ifs ands or buts about it and just flat WRONG
you are so wrong its disgusting
He isn’t wrong. I’m not one who cares what one person does to themself or how they identify, but this isn’t fair to all of those women athletes. Lia went through male puberty, trained as a male for years, building up body mass. It doesn’t matter how many hormones you take, you have already shaped your body, built underlying muscle mass. You can even hear it in her voice.
@@tostitotrip trans women aren’t built like Liam. He’s a man, man!
@@Lola_Nico no lauren, shes a female.
@@tostitotrip No, the man beating women is gross.
Don't say that you don't have a choice. You chose that
ABC News keeps calling it "a debate". Their comment section would disagree that there is any debate.
Trans women are just that, trans women, I respect everybody’s right to be who they want to be as long as it doesn’t infringe on other peoples rights which is clearly the case here. Most sports are by definition physical, personally I think people should compete in sports based on the sex assigned at birth, it’s not perfect but trans people have to go through a lot of hardship through life, this is unfortunately another one.
all trans women should compete with other trans women and other trans men should only compete with other trans men. You have to have a Trans women nba and a trans men nba. This is the only way it's fair and this is the only way it will work.
@@TimeTX the problem is there are apparently about 60 different gender identities! We can’t have a separate competition for each identity
@@ZX-mg5xs and Why not??? LMAO, YOU'RE HILARIOUS.
@@ZX-mg5xs Then there shouldn't be any sports and why can't we have a separate competition for each, what's stopping us, we can do anything we want. That's the whole point I'm trying to make and it's going right over your head, LMAO
What about the special olympics, so they should be able to swim with him or in the NBA.?????????? Please Wake Up!!!
Everyone should be able to live as they want and be treated kindly.
But make no mistake, a transgender female has countless advantages over biologically born females. It is also wholly inappropriate for activist teachers to teach sexuality and instill transgender behavior to pre and grade Schoolers.
If you disagree, you must know that you are letting your empathy and compassion completely muddy your common sense and better judgment.
Mark, I urge you to ACTUALLY read the curriculum and read the books.
They are ONLY about Acceptance, Compassion, Kindness and being Unique. They are not teaching sex, Sexuality, or explain "gender".
It is all about loving yourself and others.
Monique, this is fine. Unfortunately for preschool kindergarten and even older grades the “curriculum” on this matter is decided by the teacher and, perhaps even worse can be withheld from the parents. I agree there is a sane middle ground people can come to regarding acceptance in schools but sexuality has no place in early grade school.
And as far as the sports issue. There is no defense for it. Until a trans leaguer is created, biologically women athletes will be victim to this unjust way of thinking.
@@markm8375 there is not enough people for a "trans league", most trans don't even play sports.
Exactly, believe what you want, do what you want and call yourself whatever you want but don't force me to accept it and don't force it down everyone's throat especially children.
Actually, no. Not everyone deserves to be treated kindly.
And there's no such thing as a 'transwoman' or a 'transman.' There are only biological men and women.
“I can’t take this any more” (being 400th ranked )
Dude took everyone in for a ride. And got medal for it too.
8:51 no we can have that opinion and its the opinion I think a majority of people have. Were totally fine with you being trans and honestly wouldn't have any issues if they competed in gender they were born in but its when you transition and compete in the other gender category is when a lot of us start to go hold on hold on hold on and you can't tell us we are transphobes for saying this.
I couldn’t agree more. I support trans people, but I don’t think they should compete with other born women. That transphobic word is so over used…. I’m tired of it and it loses its value.
Not only competing, but using the female locker room is not ok. One her his teammates came out and said they were uncomfortable with him in there.
How many women Trans try to compete in the mens catagory??0..They dont stand a chance..But men think its ok to compete against women because they couldnt Beat the men...Shameful !!Pathetic
If they want to compete they need to compete with the same sex that they are not what they identify as
Right?!?! Where do we see trans men competing? Never because biologically they have no chance. This is a biological male competing against females. Shitting on women 100%. This insanity has to fckin stop already.
We should add a category for transgender athletes. Men are scientifically proven that they have more stamina. It’s different if they decided to take Estrogen before puberty which can change hormones. But it’s also different if you have already went through puberty.
We should feed the starving kids of the Earth before spending any money creating a transgender athletics division..
They can take that but they said sometimes things stays like hand size and height size and will not change
There isn't enough transgender people to do that, and it's already a "race" that is only actually against a stopwatch, the fact they're in the same pool doesn't matter, and no transgender person is going to hold a female record, because they're easily categorized.
That’s not true. My 12 year nephew can already beat me in a fight and he’s already taller than me and I almost 40!
thats like the opposite of steroids why would you do that
Autogynephilia . Will is a guy - give back all ncaa awards / titles
As an Aussie - we are born swimmers . Swimming is a subject every school year . Our population is 18 million and always approx top 5 in the Olympics
Will ranked well over 400. All Aussie swimmers would easily beat you .
You are Will , not Leah .
#ProtectWomansSport
Yes, that’s correct.
unfair
Egoism, Greediness and Stealth. This is what it is about.
Imagine knowing you have a colossal advantage and STILL competing with a straight face. This person isn't a competitor
I respect Riley Gaines for doing so well against a guy in swimming competitions.
Sooo unfair that she gets to compete against biological woman.🤦♀️
I’m all for trans rights, but that is too far.
I’m a lesbian, and I’m grappling with this! Her DNA is male even though hormones have softened her. I’ll still respect her and her pronouns.
I know, I don’t think it’s a case of “people think I transitioned to get a competitive advantage”. It’s just a case of she went through make puberty, and naturally has a bigger and stronger body than cis-gendered women🙄. THAT is what people care about!
*male*
*he
This is sick! Why would a man even want to compete against a woman? In his mind he knows he really didn't win anything. They should have a individual sport for these weirdos.
He couldn’t make a name in the male division because he’s average, so he claimed to be a woman because he knew he could beat people biologically slower/weaker than him.
@@dr.lesbien9618 FACTS!!
"In his mind he knows he really didn't win anything" - Does he though? Do you think he's that self aware? He's not aware enough to understand he's a man. If he hasn't grasped that concept I wouldn't assume fair competition is anywhere on his radar.
@@jamescampbell720 he's aware. That's why he lost his last competition.
@@jamescampbell720 I think he's pretending to take advantage. He knows 100% what he is doing and that it's affecting ppl he just dosnt care.
Juju chang how dare you call me CIS I am a woman, female woman! no prefix needed DO NOT CALL ME CIS
Sport is categorised on biological sex, not :
imagination, mental illness, religious views, ideology, fashion preferences, feelings, thoughts, desires, mood, character, personality etc
It is very sad when you need to win medals this way!
seriously cant understand how this was allowed. I feel it for the ladies who spent their lives dedicating hard work to only be cheated in the end.
Biology and physical abilities is what makes an athlete, when you throw a biological male into the mix you’re gonna notice something is off.
I don’t know how this dude sleeps at night. He’s a disgrace.
Its cancel culture to call people who don’t support her swim career transphobic. Physically she has a lot of male traits still such as broader shoulders, bigger hands and bigger lungs. Im sure her times have gone down since transition but she still has all the bone structure as she did before transition. Its science. I feel bad but it’s biologically unfair to compete with cis women, its not a question of being transphobic.
Lol that's not cancel culture. I do not think she should be allowed to compete against biological women, I'm not transphobic and I'm a fan of "cancel culture" because it's actually "accountability culture," I'm happy have been so open in revealing who they are so I can cancel them if necessary. "Cancel culture" is only a problem for bullies and bigots. 🤷🏾♀️
@@jammzy2959 transgender people know this, you're getting strongarmed because most of you don't know science, and most of us don't play sports. It's a good opportunity to school you while an actual non-issue plays out because "transgender athletes" is going to make up .01% of people.
@@jammzy2959 no its cancle ppl I disagree with because they have wrong think. Cancle culture is toxic and dangerous.
@@jammzy2959 it's inherently fascist.
@@Perroden "consequence culture," as I call it, is here to stay so there is no use in arguing over whether or not you think it is fair or toxic. It has always existed. If you can't disagree with someone or something without being a bigot, that is a YOU problem and most of the time when people are "cancelled" for saying something, they have probably already been problematic and it is deserved. If you have self awareness and a brain you won't be cancelled. 🤷🏾♀️
He didn't win by a small amount. He won by a huge difference. Do you really think that is fair. It's not political , you people make it political. Women should have the right to a fair competition. Imagine how crushing this is. A young girl trains all her life to have her moment, see that hard work and dedication paid off. And she gets beaten by this guy.
@@MoneySoul I call bullshit. He won first place and then saw all the backlash and then threw in the towel 2nd time and ended up 5th on purpose to try and show he wasn’t at advantage. Totally faked the last races , you can even tell by how he was swimming Vs the women. Was a total farce.
It’s so sad 😞 our poor girls ! What a selfish man he is !
It would hard on the legitimate biological female athletes, but if they were to boycott events until the problem is fixed, it may happen fairly quickly.
This should not even be a conversation. Anyone can let their hair grow out and call themselves call themselves a woman and participate. He was very very selfish. Even being on hormones does not change that. Now having said that, my child told me he was transgender when he was a junior in high school. He began testosterone therapy. He was an exceptional athlete. He made the decision on his own to stop participating in sports because he felt …knew… it was unfair to participate in women’s sports while being on hormone replacement. Instead he participated in other ways, through practice, assistant coaching . It was painful to stop playing his sport that he loved and excelled. Before he stopped, colleges were looking at him for scholarships. Regardless of how people feel about transgender, which I struggle with every day as a parent, I’m proud that my child put others above himself.
So my 2 daughters not only have to work hard enough to beat other girls, now they have to train and practice even more to beat other boys. This world is on a sad, disgusting place. You want FAIRNESS....GO COMPETE AGAINST OTHER TRANS.
👏 yes it is ! He is very selfish too !
Absolutely agree with you
You have to be who you are, it’s not for me to judge, but in competition men have a larger lung capacity than women, that gives them a sizable advantage against there competition. The trans community are going to have to accept even though your not comfortable in your own skin and you can make changes to make you feel better and comfortable your physical anatomy doesn’t change.
Hmm… if a man was smaller stature like 5’4”, are his lungs smaller than say a female that is around 5’11”?
@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 yes.
@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 if a man says he’s a goat, should he be put in a fence or get a mental evaluation? Seriously?
@@mikewhocheeseharry5292
What point are you trying to make exactly? That testosterone doesn't give men an advantage over women?
Let me tell you all about the bravery of American law enforcement. For real violent criminals the "officers" seem cautious and faithful to follow the laws. They might have waited for someone to tell them that they really respected Due Process by entering the scene of the crime. Honestly, the officers must have waited for a court order, you know. For political prisoners in America and almost all of the world inhabitants, the CIA installs a "chip" to monitor the individuals' thoughts and thus their plans of actions at all times. In such a scenario where there is absolute certainty to the officers's safety then they are willing and brave enough to kick thru the doors, to scream the nonexistant court orders and ready to pull the triggers. Here the cowards must have received information that Suspect was brutal and had military skills, so the officers stayed put-nik, outside the "conflict zone". It's not the Second Amendment problem. It is the crimilality and cowardice of the American police state.
She didn't win she stole from the REAL woman who came 2nd.
NCAA shame on them! Disgusting
*Congrats to Emma Weyant the real winner of the championship*
Look, I support trans people and their pursuits in life but this right here is not fair. Trans people want to be treated fairly but this is not fair to women. Physically, men are built different than women that's why men will almost always have an advantage over women athletically.
So it's okay if men get paid higher than women then due to their physique, judging from your reasoning 😏
@@fendifenshury does that mean you think handicapped people should be paid less?
@@fendifenshury I don't know how you came to the conclusion that I think men should get paid more than women based on my comment. LOL.
@Blank Fenshury well if you want to go with that than the US Women's National soccer team should be paid way more than the men's as they have won two world cups to men's zero
9:00 Yes, you can support someone to a _certain_ extent. Just because you’re supported by someone doesn’t mean you get to do whatever you want.
It doesn't matter if you're on hormones or have lost muscle mass. You still have male muscle make-up which makes you naturally stronger than women.
Nobody here thinks Lia is genetically a woman, even if we're ok w/ him living his/her life as one!!! Competing against women is just disgusting and anyone who is for it is against women!!!!
Just transition and race the dudes. She didn't want to take the L's. Before her transition she ranked 554th in the 200 freestyle. She wanted to dominate. just look at her laugh when she asks " some people think you have a competitive advantage."
Exactly he was mediocre as a male then changed to female & now is not just winning but dominating the sport ! This is Taking grants , scholarships, and many other advantages from our biological girls !
You're ignorant. She laughs because that accusation is ridiculous, she probably knows well, as most trans people I guess, that she has no unfair advantage, hormones over time change the whole body structure, her muscles are within the female range, she is just a freak of nature as a woman, but still a woman, it is nowhere near natural male body type, the sex is drastically changed = primary and secondary characteristics.
@@Shalanaya A man's lungs and heart are bigger. Bigger lungs means your body can absorb more oxygen into the blood stream and obviously your heart pumps more. That's an advantage by itself. Some athletes Lance Armstrong would do blood doping which enhances your stamina. There are differences between men's muscles and women's muscles, I forget scientifically what they are. From what I remember women's muscles are more quick twitch and less stamina. Men have more brute strength and stamina. Just look at that trans woman that broke all the power lifting records with ease. I dunno how you can say this dude was a scrub ranked 500th in the men's and then transitions to women's and crush's it and there's no advantage. I agree trans people should be celebrated. Not Lia Thomas , their was a woman that transitioned to a man and is a boxer and boxes men and has won fights. In my opinion that's admirable,and he should be celebrated.
@@desertfox4273yes exactly. i was a swimmer for 12 years and i competed against boys during some of this time RARELY you would beat them unless they were off that’s day mentally or just not the best swimmer. even in practices men are much faster than women and that is due to their body composition, muscle, and the size of heart and lungs. lungs are very important in this sport and the bigger they are the better aerobic capacity you have (aka makes you a stronger swimmer).
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7:30 As long as you’re happy, disregard all of the feelings of the women you’re competing against…
Lia gives all us men a bad name😂
Not to put words in your mouth, but he’s “Will”. Also, yes, he sure does give us, men a bad name!
They need their own categories
Yup
They do. It's called the men's devision.
No, they need help from hospital
@@idkkdi8620yes
It doesn’t make any sense. Shame on him . Total unfair. This world will continue with this non sense action in future. It’s better to back to your natural things . Repaint in Jesus name ,
Seeing this dude wear a female swimsuit me absolutely disturbs me
I truly believe Lia genuinely feels she is a woman, --inside a man’s body though. And this simply cannot be erased as if this is not true. We need to look into a new category for trans-athletes. This is the reality the trans-community need to understand, that they must consider how their physical body is not equivalent to “thinking”, “dreaming”, “genuinely believing” you are a woman and we must make it clear that we’re not trying to dismiss or ban them, but to recognize physiologically, it’s not possible nor is it fair to compete in the same category as women’s. And no, this is not political.
Congratulations dude. You beat a bunch of women. He thinks its fine that he is dominating Women's swimming because according to him he is "happy."
"Being trans is not a choice."
Ok, that's fine. But that doesn't then give a person born biologically a man to compete as a woman. I'm an incredibly liberal person, but this is simple. Women compete against women, men compete against men and trans compete against trans. A trans woman retains a good portion of their male genetics and there's no denying that. If Shaq in his prime transitioned to a woman, great, you'd have a 7'1"!350 lb woman in the WNBA. How do we think that's fair? If we don't stop this, there will be no more biological women in sports period. It will be men's sports and trans women's sports. We'll see a day where biological women in sports will be a distant memory.
That's the goal of trans women in sports...no women. Women's sports will just be like male sports, except for men who weren't successful on male sports teams.
But being trans is a choice.
Uhh bro, transgender represent 2% of the population in the extremely exaggerated standards. Not only will transgender never take over cis-sports, there are not even enough transgender to make a team, none the less a separate division or league.
Unless half the population becomes gay, this makes no sense.
Most transwomen don't even participate in sports and many "see it your way", there is seriously never going to be very many of these people.
@@Junomaster2006 yes, but gender dyshorpia is not, and the "treatment" is "trans".
Obviously the treatment is a choice, them feeling suicidal over it is not.
Of course it's a choice. He chose the female gender identity and now he's beating women at swimming. What a hero!
darn i wish this was a thing when i was in highschool/college i would have been the best feMALE athlete
They should have their own category
Yes, the men’s division
@@1237a it should be the too scar3d to compete with their own biological gender
I can tell Lia grew up as a man, not only due to her body, but mostly to her entitlement
Yes, exactly.
I was one of many to know that Lia Thomas is and always has been a guy. He was in interviews being questioned about it all and he feels that this is the only way he can achieve success. He knows he is doing wrong but doesn't want to turn down any woman's award. I am sure other countries are laughing at as now, and that more scam artists like Thomase are in que to follow suit. It is not transphopic to call out this sort of fraud.
My guess is that few would care if she was a loser instead of a winner.
Not trying to offend anyone, but I believe people should play in the sports to the sex they were born with. If you was born a man...men sports. The same goes for women.
would be the same result. im a transgender male. given the same talent and training i would destroy every woman just like lia. with testosterone treatment the body changes. bone density, musclebuilt, stamina, etc. i cannot compete with women either - and i wouldnt cause its not fair.
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There shouldnt even be a question… this is so disrespectful to cisgendered women. Its unfair, and literally misogynistic.
You are not a woman. Riley, you won girl. So proud of you.
My bro has a deeper voice than me 😂
her medals carry no merit... this debate is idiotic.
HE should feel embarrassed of HIMSELF!!
To go through the process of gender transition takes a brave person . To lose your understanding that your participation in women's sports destroys for thousands of women the basic level of fair play . Seems the process of transition take basic fairness of competition away from thousands . Seems selfish to me .
Open a transgender leagues like they did for handicapped people problem solved.
They wont ever do that. First of all, the lgbtqs2? People will complain so much. Secondly, in this trans league, do u put all trans people in there? So m2f and f2m trans people will compete against each other? Or will there is a specific m2f trans league and f2m league? If so that wont work either cuz how many trans people are in each sport? Are u going to open a seperate league for 2 or 3 people?
We don’t need a trans league because trans women are real women.
OMG!! THIS IS A MAN, A MAN LOOK AT HIM !!!!!