You hit it on the head. Almost all the pilots at my home airport fly by themselves the majority of the time. That includes at least 3 of my hangar row mates that own a 182, 205 and P210. All off them have expressed interest in getting rid of their gas guzzler's and getting something much cheaper and less complex (read... no more $6K annuals!). A friend has an A36 and he's getting ready to sell it for all the same reasons. I have an RV-12 and spend about 30% of my time by myself, but it's dirt cheap to operate and fun to fly! I was a cargo pilot for many years (Caravans, PC12's and TBMS), so I'm used to being by myself!
It’s nice to hear I ain’t alone in dealing with this. But it is making me re-evaluate my next plane. I’m thinking something in the STOL family will probably be in my near future.
You're right on with the family and friends. I have 2 sons (7-4) and they like short rides, but not more than that. I'm trying to avoid push aviation and flying down their throat, but I secretly hope they pick up the bug eventually! I still and fully enjoy flying all my myself as I'm a pretty low time pilot still (130 TT) so I still have a lot to learn so it's nice to not have too many distractions sometimes. That runway must be pretty challenging in a good crosswind, it's so narrow! JS from CYSC!
Ya I feel the same about forcing them. Nice to hear i’m not the only one lol. The runway is more challenging in the winter for sure. In the summer we have grass with a hard packed base on each side. So you do have some wiggle room.
Definitely not the only one. Same experience when I jumped up from a two seater to a four, thinking my wife and two kids would go fly all the time. Reality is, it takes some time to acclimate to turbulence and heat, and my Cessna 172 isn’t quite fast enough to justify flying everywhere I thought we would. Plus I also don’t want to burn them out with negative memories in the plane. Thanks for the video and now I too know I’m not alone on this. Cheers!
I love your' Cherokee 140 I also own a 140 but still a student Pilot!!! The neat thing about my CFI is he also own a 140 but welling to train me in my plane and he is also IFR and commercial rated plus he is only charging me 40.00 an hour and that's unheard of!!! Good luck with your journey!!!
Super straight talking bro. Real stuff here. Thanks for your efforts and great content. Owner of a Skylane for about 2 years and really appreciate your truth telling.
OK you are my #1 new found AvioTuber! I'm looking forward to more from you. Don't let the grid beat you down. This is not any easy gig, But well worth it. Cheers!
Dude! So excited to discover you. I’m an American of Canadian origin, and a PPL student. J’adore le Québec especially. I would love to see more videos of you just flying around Quebec and interacting with their bilingual ATC.
Nice! I’m also glad you discovered my channel! The plan is to explore Quebec and Ontario this summer and make a lot more content about it. So stick around, there will be plenty of content showing exactly that :). Good luck with the PPL!
@@DonatFlyingAdventures Awesome. I was born in Sudbury but had a québécoise girlfriend from Montreal for a while, so I’ve always been fascinated by what flying around Montreal must be like. I probably won’t get to do it myself for a long time so I can see it through you. Don’t hesitate to plan a trip to Arizona some day. It’s a flying Mecca out here.
@@banjo2019 my family is also from northern ontario. I plan on flying up there soon. As for Montreal, it’s a pretty chill airspace most of the time. I’m sure the airspace in the US is more hectic then up here. Once I sort out Ads-b for my plane i’ll start heading down to the US.
I’m sorry this was your experience. I purchased a PA 28, 182 years ago and my wife and I have had an amazing time. We just discussed when we got back from vacation this weekend how we felt that the airplane has paid for itself already in the joy that we have had traveling.
I’m sure they will come around eventually. I’m also going to learn how to better plan our trips as to minimize the discomfort factor. That should also help.
Hi! Ya the airport is on land owned by the city of Valleyfield. It’s about 10 minutes from the downtown core of the city. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
All of those have been my experience except the instructor thing. I've flown with 6 instructors so far and I'll be flying with one more coming up soon. And none of them have had an issue instructing from my airplane. I don't have a partner in my airplane. Maybe I should get one. 🤔 The biggest way that I save money in my airplane is: 1) I found an A&P that will work with me and let me do most of the work under his supervision. That's been fantastic. 2) I have the mogas STC that lets me put ethanol free car gas in my airplane. And that saves me about $2/gallon compared to AVGAS. Question I have for you: How do you keep your craving for speed at bay? I love my little 140, but I'm feeling a huge desire to get speeds north of 120 mph.
For the instructor thing, I was more about finding independent instructors and not having absolutely to go through a flight school. That and having them just meet me directly at my plane. Those are some great ways to save money. I used to be able to run mogas as well, however the province of Quebec has now made ethanol free 91 octane a thing of the past. That has really cut into my savings but it's still cheaper then renting where I did my PPL. As for your question, I think I'm just getting old lol. I don't feel the need to feel those acceleration G's anymore. But saving time with a faster plane is in my futur plans.
I wish I saw this video before I started my training :) So far my experience has been vastly similar, which is why I'm not buying. Of course if you don't own it's much worse in terms of availability and long cross-countries. I was kinda surprised to find out that most people don't want to get into a tiny tin can and trust a dude who only started flying a year or two ago with their lives. Shocker. The only scenario that has worked out for me so far is pairing up with another pilot and flying long cross-countries, splitting the flying and the costs. Otherwise I'm mostly flying alone, it is what it is. General aviation doesn't mesh very well with most people's lives, let's be honest about it, which is why most people stop flying pretty much immediately after they've finished their licenses.
Agreed! For me I’ve had to modify my expectations and also my ownership goals have changed. I will probably end up with a small and fast 2 seater or a STOL in the near future.
Jayzus I thought you took off from a small road for a minute! that is a narrow runway! I don't think my little 270-hour self could routinely take off/land on that! 😐. Hats off to you Sir!
I've been lucky, Julie enjoys flying out for adventures. BUT her longest acceptable trip is from our base airport (CYOO) to Quebec City (CYQB) which to be fair is a pretty long flight in a Cessna. As for budget... way less than my friends with boats, four wheelers, and snow machines.
I’ve seen your video about that flight! It was very good! And when it comes to budget, your right about it not being more then other motorized sports. My friend races in the Nissan Sentra cup and his yearly budget is much more then what I spend on the Cherokee.
Hey Donat - thanks for the great content. Appreciate your videos. As a fellow mtl plane owner would like to reach out and discuss some of the things you talk about in this vid - what’s the best way to get in touch?
Good Morning Sir, That is an OUTSTANDING INFORMATIVE Tips and Personal Biography 👍🧐I subscribe to your channel to support you and thank you for your informative video 👍🧐👌Yes a price break down will be OUTSTANDING informative video👌👍😇 I'm currently just started my pilot course at Exact Air In Saguenay ( I'm at 2 hrs of flying !!! ) 🥴I love it maan 🤣👍👍 Ho my God, that runway is not large at all 😮 Keep Up Your OUTSTANDING Videos Sir Cheers 🍻🍻
Thanks for the sub! I’ll make that price breakdown video in the next few weeks. And good luck in your training. Enjoy the experience, it’s one of the most gratifying things I’ve ever done.
It’s a darned SHAME you and I live so far apart. In western North Carolina. I’m seeking Students that own their own Airplanes. I love teaching Instrument Ratings amongst everything else. I own a Cessna 150. My retirement Airplane. Guess what? I fly alone.
Ha ha ha ! 100% raison Big ! La famille vien pas, la dame à le mal de l’air, le garçon (20ans) a des chum aller voir etc. Mais à Gatineau, on est chanceux qu’on as 3 école et plein d’instructeur, donc le beau-frère de mon mécano. Mais au contraire de toi, je suis seul sur mon Beech19, pour la seul raison que le moteur est on-condition et je veut Le mémérer lol, en plus que je vien de mètre 20k$ dedans et un autre 10k$ dans 2 moi pour un engine monitor. Je devrai aller atterrir à St-Lazare ce printemps !
Normally you would be right. But the province of Quebec, being what it is, also allows French to be spoken over the radio. And since a lot of older pilots barely understand english here, I choose to make my calls in french as an added safety feature when I’m flying in Quebec.
If you are looking for something to do with a family, get a boat. 35 feet minimum. Not cheap but similar to an airplane. Kids will like it until they are 13 or 14 years old. Unless you are going somewhere, a plane is useless. It is a means of transportation. A boat on the other hand, is a lot of fun while you are going somewhere AND a lot of fun when you get there.
I think a video on the economics of an airplane would be super awesome and entertaining, would total love to see it
Noted thanks!
You hit it on the head. Almost all the pilots at my home airport fly by themselves the majority of the time. That includes at least 3 of my hangar row mates that own a 182, 205 and P210. All off them have expressed interest in getting rid of their gas guzzler's and getting something much cheaper and less complex (read... no more $6K annuals!). A friend has an A36 and he's getting ready to sell it for all the same reasons.
I have an RV-12 and spend about 30% of my time by myself, but it's dirt cheap to operate and fun to fly! I was a cargo pilot for many years (Caravans, PC12's and TBMS), so I'm used to being by myself!
It’s nice to hear I ain’t alone in dealing with this. But it is making me re-evaluate my next plane. I’m thinking something in the STOL family will probably be in my near future.
You're right on with the family and friends. I have 2 sons (7-4) and they like short rides, but not more than that. I'm trying to avoid push aviation and flying down their throat, but I secretly hope they pick up the bug eventually! I still and fully enjoy flying all my myself as I'm a pretty low time pilot still (130 TT) so I still have a lot to learn so it's nice to not have too many distractions sometimes. That runway must be pretty challenging in a good crosswind, it's so narrow! JS from CYSC!
Ya I feel the same about forcing them. Nice to hear i’m not the only one lol. The runway is more challenging in the winter for sure. In the summer we have grass with a hard packed base on each side. So you do have some wiggle room.
Definitely not the only one. Same experience when I jumped up from a two seater to a four, thinking my wife and two kids would go fly all the time. Reality is, it takes some time to acclimate to turbulence and heat, and my Cessna 172 isn’t quite fast enough to justify flying everywhere I thought we would. Plus I also don’t want to burn them out with negative memories in the plane. Thanks for the video and now I too know I’m not alone on this. Cheers!
I love your' Cherokee 140 I also own a 140 but still a student Pilot!!! The neat thing about my CFI is he also own a 140 but welling to train me in my plane and he is also IFR and commercial rated plus he is only charging me 40.00 an hour and that's unheard of!!! Good luck with your journey!!!
Thanks! They are amazing little planes. Kinda like a honda civic of old haha.
Super straight talking bro. Real stuff here. Thanks for your efforts and great content. Owner of a Skylane for about 2 years and really appreciate your truth telling.
My pleasure, thanks for tuning in.
Finally a good CZcamsr from MTL to follow!
Wow, thank you for the kind words!
Glad I found this channel! Debating buying a plane for time building, would love to see a price breakdown video!
Then you’re in luck! That video is dropping tomorrow afternoon.
OK you are my #1 new found AvioTuber! I'm looking forward to more from you. Don't let the grid beat you down. This is not any easy gig, But well worth it. Cheers!
Wow, thank you for the kind words! I’m really having fun making content so I should be around for a while.
Dude! So excited to discover you. I’m an American of Canadian origin, and a PPL student. J’adore le Québec especially. I would love to see more videos of you just flying around Quebec and interacting with their bilingual ATC.
Nice! I’m also glad you discovered my channel! The plan is to explore Quebec and Ontario this summer and make a lot more content about it. So stick around, there will be plenty of content showing exactly that :). Good luck with the PPL!
@@DonatFlyingAdventures Awesome. I was born in Sudbury but had a québécoise girlfriend from Montreal for a while, so I’ve always been fascinated by what flying around Montreal must be like. I probably won’t get to do it myself for a long time so I can see it through you. Don’t hesitate to plan a trip to Arizona some day. It’s a flying Mecca out here.
@@banjo2019 my family is also from northern ontario. I plan on flying up there soon. As for Montreal, it’s a pretty chill airspace most of the time. I’m sure the airspace in the US is more hectic then up here. Once I sort out Ads-b for my plane i’ll start heading down to the US.
Yesss some details on the expenses in Quebec including assurance
Check out my channel page, I released all that info a few weeks ago in a new video. :)
Awesome video. Thanks for it. I hope Ill be a plane owner in the near future as well. Greetings from Miami.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I just started looking at 140's for time building
I’m sorry this was your experience. I purchased a PA 28, 182 years ago and my wife and I have had an amazing time. We just discussed when we got back from vacation this weekend how we felt that the airplane has paid for itself already in the joy that we have had traveling.
I’m sure they will come around eventually. I’m also going to learn how to better plan our trips as to minimize the discomfort factor. That should also help.
are you near Salaberry-de-Valleyfield? I like that area. I like that 360 shot from the back. new subscriber, found you on the discord :)
Hi! Ya the airport is on land owned by the city of Valleyfield. It’s about 10 minutes from the downtown core of the city. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
All of those have been my experience except the instructor thing. I've flown with 6 instructors so far and I'll be flying with one more coming up soon. And none of them have had an issue instructing from my airplane.
I don't have a partner in my airplane. Maybe I should get one. 🤔
The biggest way that I save money in my airplane is:
1) I found an A&P that will work with me and let me do most of the work under his supervision. That's been fantastic.
2) I have the mogas STC that lets me put ethanol free car gas in my airplane. And that saves me about $2/gallon compared to AVGAS.
Question I have for you: How do you keep your craving for speed at bay? I love my little 140, but I'm feeling a huge desire to get speeds north of 120 mph.
For the instructor thing, I was more about finding independent instructors and not having absolutely to go through a flight school. That and having them just meet me directly at my plane.
Those are some great ways to save money. I used to be able to run mogas as well, however the province of Quebec has now made ethanol free 91 octane a thing of the past. That has really cut into my savings but it's still cheaper then renting where I did my PPL.
As for your question, I think I'm just getting old lol. I don't feel the need to feel those acceleration G's anymore. But saving time with a faster plane is in my futur plans.
I wish I saw this video before I started my training :) So far my experience has been vastly similar, which is why I'm not buying. Of course if you don't own it's much worse in terms of availability and long cross-countries. I was kinda surprised to find out that most people don't want to get into a tiny tin can and trust a dude who only started flying a year or two ago with their lives. Shocker.
The only scenario that has worked out for me so far is pairing up with another pilot and flying long cross-countries, splitting the flying and the costs. Otherwise I'm mostly flying alone, it is what it is. General aviation doesn't mesh very well with most people's lives, let's be honest about it, which is why most people stop flying pretty much immediately after they've finished their licenses.
Agreed! For me I’ve had to modify my expectations and also my ownership goals have changed. I will probably end up with a small and fast 2 seater or a STOL in the near future.
Great video my friend.
Thank you 👍
keep up the good work man!Your videos are has enjoyable has always and the editing is very smooth
Thanks Nathan!
It's important to have a partner who shares your same passions.
Normally I would 100% agree. But Aviation can be a difficult one for some people and that’s ok.
Add my vote for a cost breakdown video.
Thanks for this. Subscribed.
Thx for the Sub! I’ve actually started editing it. So keep an eye out for that episode.
Jayzus I thought you took off from a small road for a minute! that is a narrow runway! I don't think my little 270-hour self could routinely take off/land on that! 😐. Hats off to you Sir!
Thanks! But it looks worse then it is. I’m sure you would get used to it quickly.
haha, my school has 2 runways about that thick. Imagine learning on a runway like that!
I've been lucky, Julie enjoys flying out for adventures. BUT her longest acceptable trip is from our base airport (CYOO) to Quebec City (CYQB) which to be fair is a pretty long flight in a Cessna.
As for budget... way less than my friends with boats, four wheelers, and snow machines.
I’ve seen your video about that flight! It was very good! And when it comes to budget, your right about it not being more then other motorized sports. My friend races in the Nissan Sentra cup and his yearly budget is much more then what I spend on the Cherokee.
Cool video. Family and friends situation is bang on! :-) Did you have any issues to find the hangar space?
I don’t have a hangar as of yet. But the airport where I have it tied down has space to build hangers. I’m working on the project :)
Hey Donat - thanks for the great content. Appreciate your videos. As a fellow mtl plane owner would like to reach out and discuss some of the things you talk about in this vid - what’s the best way to get in touch?
Hey! Ya for sure, you can use the email address in the channel description. Looking forward to hearing from ya.
Man go get a ice box ac WILL CHNAGE YOUR LIFE. Makes trips super enjoyable even in the hottest of weather
Is tinting windows illegal? Also don't they have removable tint inserts?
Nice I’ll look into that, thanks!
I’d have to look into the legality of it but that is also a good idea.
Great insight mate!
Thanks!
Good Morning Sir, That is an OUTSTANDING INFORMATIVE Tips and Personal Biography 👍🧐I subscribe to your channel to support you and thank you for your informative video 👍🧐👌Yes a price break down will be OUTSTANDING informative video👌👍😇 I'm currently just started my pilot course at Exact Air In Saguenay ( I'm at 2 hrs of flying !!! ) 🥴I love it maan 🤣👍👍 Ho my God, that runway is not large at all 😮 Keep Up Your OUTSTANDING Videos Sir Cheers 🍻🍻
Thanks for the sub! I’ll make that price breakdown video in the next few weeks. And good luck in your training. Enjoy the experience, it’s one of the most gratifying things I’ve ever done.
@@DonatFlyingAdventures Thank You Sir, at 55 yrs old now, It is a life dream and I can't believe that I'm doing it for real 😇👌👍✨🚀Cheers 🍻
Wait for the engine overhaul...then we'll talk affordable. 😊
Haha ya I know. But I put a bit aside every flight hour to cover that eventuality.
That's the narrowest runway I have ever seen. It looks like just a small road. I am used to 150-200 ft. wide...
Haha yes, it looks worse than it is. You get used to it quickly.
Cool video!
Thx!
It’s a darned SHAME you and I live so far apart. In western North Carolina. I’m seeking Students that own their own Airplanes. I love teaching Instrument Ratings amongst everything else. I own a Cessna 150. My retirement Airplane. Guess what? I fly alone.
Is it common for people to not teach in privately owned aircraft? I was thinking I may buy something like a j3 and try to learn in that.
Would love to see a cost breakdown. I’m buying a Cherokee 160 right now for training.
Ok great! I’ll put that together for you guy.
Is that a 4 foot wide runway? 😳
Haha, it sure feels like it at times. But it’s actually 25ft wide paved.
Some of the shots from behind show the entire tail section of the plane as if the camera is maybe 10 feet behind... how do you do that?
My next video will show you how to do it. Should be out in a bit less then 2 weeks. Stay tuned.
Cest quoi le nom de la landing strip proche du fleuve?
CSD3 Valleyfield
Ha ha ha ! 100% raison Big ! La famille vien pas, la dame à le mal de l’air, le garçon (20ans) a des chum aller voir etc. Mais à Gatineau, on est chanceux qu’on as 3 école et plein d’instructeur, donc le beau-frère de mon mécano. Mais au contraire de toi, je suis seul sur mon Beech19, pour la seul raison que le moteur est on-condition et je veut Le mémérer lol, en plus que je vien de mètre 20k$ dedans et un autre 10k$ dans 2 moi pour un engine monitor.
Je devrai aller atterrir à St-Lazare ce printemps !
Tu me dira quand tu passe dans mon coin. On va aller voler.
IS english not the universal lang for aviation?
It is, however the province of Quebec is a special place and we have 2 languages accepted when it comes to ATC coms.
@@DonatFlyingAdventures thank you
Why are you speaking French on the radio? I thought all Aviation radio calls were supposed to be in English in all countries?
Normally you would be right. But the province of Quebec, being what it is, also allows French to be spoken over the radio. And since a lot of older pilots barely understand english here, I choose to make my calls in french as an added safety feature when I’m flying in Quebec.
small planes are just you and maybe one other person. useful load and fuel are always an issue.
I’ve noticed that as well. Maybe one day my budget will allow me to get something a bit bigger.
When are we doing your IFR and make a real vids!!! :)
Let me know when you’re available and I’ll be there 😁
Can it fly to Barbados 😂
Man I wish! Maybe the next one will be able too.
If you are looking for something to do with a family, get a boat. 35 feet minimum. Not cheap but similar to an airplane. Kids will like it until they are 13 or 14 years old. Unless you are going somewhere, a plane is useless. It is a means of transportation. A boat on the other hand, is a lot of fun while you are going somewhere AND a lot of fun when you get there.
Wow your run way is very scary extremely Crassus tiny my friend
Haha ya, but you get used to it.