wtf are you talking about. how is it "natural" for all these security guys to just start unloading onto the cops. they clearly planned it out as the flanking scene shows but its inane because there's no long term plan that makes any sense. okay youve ambushed and killed all these cops and a federal agent, now what? bury the bodies and hope nobody else comes? scatter into the wilderness? if they were so afraid that the killer was going to tell the cops how they were all complicit in the R then why didn't they just kill him or let the police kill him instead of risking 1000 year felony murder sentences for murdering police officers?
All this time I never realized it was directed by Taylor Sheridan, no wonder it was such a damn good movie. And honestly it may be the best Jeremey Renner film
I feel this was an underrated movie that flew below the radar for a while. I love how Sheridan portrays rural stories and law enforcement; how many Hollywood movies star a Fish and Wildlife Agent as their main character? As one who lives in a rural area, this is brilliant. Love Renner and Elizabeth Olsen. Plus a few Sheridan regulars. Awesome movie.
In case you haven't seen the movie, this scene is a big spoiler. That said, the shootout is between Sheriff's deputies from the town and the private security guys for an oil company. The security guys (in black) were supposedly escorting the deputies to the suspect for the murders & cover-up being investigated by the female FBI agent, but as it turns out, they're ALL in on it. The dude in white who showed up is a local Fish & Wildlife agent she was working with - he's also the one who warned the Sheriff over the radio, which is how the Sheriff knew it was a trap and yelled for the FBI agent to move away from the door.
I thought the warning happened because the Sheriff knew Jane was being set up once the guy announced she was right in front of the door. They already had suspicions, when the rig security were trying to get positioning on them as they all walked along. They just weren't suspicious enough.
Haven't seen the movie, want to blue. On another note, I hear people shit on fish and game all the time, myself once included. A friend of mine works in law enforcement and he made a comment to me one time about that side of the law. He said, people shit on fish and game, but no one thinks about that the ONLY people they come into contact with are always armed, and always armed with bigger and badder guns than have, 100% of the time they're on the Job. They're also the only ones that can speak day in and day out on behalf of the habitats they're entrusted to protect. That shit hit home
Overall aye. Besides the female lead being saved by the massive plot armor, including the concealed marksman. She really had no rights surviving that initial shot alone, a prime example of why real, actual FBI and even more general LEOs are trained NOT to stand in front of the damn door. Let alone everything else afterwards. Granted shit gets crazy fast, and she is shown being blown back and taking time to get her breath back; however, a shotgun at point blank through a paper-thin trailer door is practically game over. FBI issue body armor is like level III, which can maybe stop most handgun calibers and some rifle calibers. Personally I'm not going to be betting on surviving a CQC shotgun while wearing anything less than a level 4+ with plates. Even then it better be damn good money.
@@andrewmoir i don't agree. This movie is just like an ancient Greek tragedy.It's nemesis for the young girls death.Hybris and subsequent punishment. Restoring the order of things means he has to die the same way. And we must watch it.
Like the other guy said, the fact that a biological impossibility was focused on and mentioned so much was kind of annoying. Especially since most of the rest of the movie was quite realistic. They could’ve just went with the girl, and the guy at the end, dying of hypothermia. They didn’t have to throw in the BS lung thing
I don't think he had reached that point where his lungs froze, I'm not sure where either of you are getting that from? He likely died from blood loss, passing out from pain and hypothermia/frostbite, or a combination of all three. The point of that scene was he couldn't hack the run that the girl made. Not even close.
This movie had the very best flashback scene ever filmed, when Elizabeth Olsen knocks on the trailer door, then the fate of the Indian woman and her boyfriend is revealed. I have never seen a better, more seamless cinematographic flashback. Not to mention that all of the acting was superb, and that Jeremy Renner's character administered natural justice at the film's climax. This movie was important, had a clear message, and was a pleasure and quite thrilling to watch.
I forgot how brutal the ending of this movie was. The whole movie was really, really good. Scary how brutal & terrible people can be. Sometimes it just takes a moment to propel folks into an evil direction. They have already had bits of it in them, but earlier in the movie. Horsing around, quickly turned into murder & rape, and more murder......Just sad. Fantastic movie & cast.
This movie will wear you out. Be prepared. Maybe the most gut wrenching movie I’ve ever watched. Little fanfare given to this movie but easily one of my top ten favorites of all time.
At the police academy they taught us never to stand right in front of the door, always to the side for this very reason. Very realistic shoot-out. You will miss way more shots then you make with your adrenaline pumping.
@@acewings221 I’m still an agent. Been doing for almost 13 years now. Please keep that same attitude when you call 911 bc someone stole your Bernie sign out of your yard.
@@ffnovice7 it wasn't Wyoming that made me depressed just humans. The natural beauty of this country is nuts. The People can leave something to be desired though.
@@tylerstears4445Heard that, brother. These types exist, though thankfully few and far between. Most people may be selfish, but fortunately not homicidal.
Totally agree, but I'd suggest they were protecting themselves because they knew what would happen if the rapist was taken into custody. No doubt would have sold him out him if they weren't involved.
I just disliked that part at first because it was exaggerated. What do hit him? a cannonball? ... Well, it ended up being a 45/70 caliber. (from a henry rifle, not sure) yes a canon ball
@@imp13 Well that is not 'underrated.' That would be not rated. It is a common idiotic and ignorant thing to call something underrated when, in fact, it is highly rated and you are just trying to use your limited vocabulary to express that you liked the film but you didn't see any reviews on tiktok or w/e bullshit you derive your opinions from.
She still should never have come to that place among all those sex-starved blokes. And the boyfriend was clearly old enough to be able to think with his big head, and not with his little head down below. Should've just escorted her home straight away and told her that bedroom fun can be done elsewhere. Dumb mistakes all-round really.
Tbf they somewhat address her naivete when she asks him about maybe moving to new York Chicago La, because she wants out of reservation life. The Iraq veteran lets her know his opinions of those places (I'm actually in his boat in Wyoming too with a wifey ⅔s my age in the works), and wanting to move to God's country, somewhere around lake Tahoe. One great tactical detail is that the security mostly survived and the deputies did not, due to body armor and lack thereof. They had handguns, shotgun, and auto rifle, and the native sheriffs had handguns and only got a kill with head shots. Cory 's handloads were enough to punch plates. Shotgun rounds generally don't penetrate higher level body armor. Buck is like 10±2 9mm pellets all at once so the penetration is generally not there. It's possible the thonged agent realistically survived with hospitalization, but less likely than just dying outright. Maybe Cory was actually right about her being a survivor. Can't wait for the sequel
@@eddielong8663Thank you, Captain hindsight. Your ability to victim blame movie characters is impeccable. You already knew how the scene ended at that point. He likely lived day in and day out with these clowns and never would've imagined it'd go that far.
What I can say is I love this movie and this is a realistic shootout. You always see on tv and movies guys shooting a million rounds and not hitting anyone. In this case still as many people were shooting many rounds and still not hitting people in spitting distance at first and had to empty mags until they hit people, well you have to take a tactical course and you see that moving and shooting is hard and not like standing at a lane in the shooting range. Add a little adrenaline and shake and stir and well you don't hit shit for awhile.
I think about a shootout I believe was in Dallas, cop and perp we're a few feet apart and mag dumped without hitting anything. Although JR is a little OP, there's a huge difference between trained people with experience and some thugs. He who keeps cool often wins
@@EugeneSSmith Also high stress situations are highly different than shooting paper targets. Even moving with no threat at a tactical course makes hitting your target very hard if you ever took a course before or practiced on your own.
Agree with that. Renner strikes me as the type who probably wasn't a naturally gifted actor and who really had to slog extra hard to break into the A-list. His shortish stature and average joe look about him would've been a hurdle aswell one would think. It's easy to tell how seriously he takes his job with the intensity he demonstrates in all his performances.
I remember the minute I heard the one guy say, "FBI is standing in front of the door open up" what was going to happen. It's a detail a lot of people missed but the guy was deliberately trying to have her shot through the door. The only one who caught on was the police chief.
The police chief knew because Cory came through on the radio and warned him the tracks led back to the rig site. The only part I don't know is why the bald guy shot his own man in the head after the shootout. Mercy kill perhaps?
@@tomaofdonewelll7810 I think it could be cuz they can't have ones that are badly injured go to a hospital & having more agents & other law investigate the rig site. Best to try & sweep it under the carpet best they can. The other 2 crew members that got shot were totally fine then and could possibly patch themselves up after. So I think it's a can't take the risk deal. Sure the policemen that died are gonna be investigated too but they'll prob weasel themselves out of suspicion like their coworker or have enough time to disappear.
@@tomaofdonewelll7810 That wasn't one of his own men. It was a Bureau of Indian Affairs police officer and he was on the side of the FBI and the deputies. The BIA uniforms were also dark and a sort of similar to the security guard uniforms (the bad guys). If you look at his shoulder patch you'll see it's different than the security company's shoulder patch.
It’s great when movies are procedural. Taking their time. Building character and tension. Then it ends in a single explosive action scene. Wind River, LA Confidential, Proof of Life.
45-70 is a freakin huge round meant to take down elephants. The guys flying back are a little exaggerated at some parts but others like the 2 guys outside I image aren’t too too far off
Ends just a few seconds too soon, just as he's saying, "I won't bring him back," meaning he'll go get him but he's not gonna arrest him, he's gonna kill him. He says, "You have to know that." She says she knows, says, "Go get him."
This is officially in my top 3 movies. Wow. The acting, the writing, the direction.. the fuckin music. I haven't been moved by a movie like that in ages .
She took a shotgun to the chest, got off a headshot, and attempted a reload in front of 3 armed men, crawled off to wound the last guy. Shes’ a warrior.
Damn, she is beautiful. I like the "Fuck you let's go" and the respect the security worker had for the deputy and his fight to the end, never say die, attitude, when he padded him on the chest.
Overall a pretty good scene. My one complaint is how close the two shots were together after 2:11. I wish the director had put in an extra second or two to make it more realistic. Cory is shooting at distance with a pretty powerful lever-action gun. Having to deal with the recoil and cycle the action, even for a really good shooter, it would be unlikely to get off two well-aimed shots that quickly and get both hits.
That's a secondary point. The primary point is that a 45-70 even loaded to the max isn't going to be throwing people back into walls. I have several Marlin 45-70s, including the same kind of 1895SBL in this scene. There is no way it can do what's depicted here. Shit, even a 700 Nitro Express wouldn't do that. It's very much artistic licence for the sake of wow factor. Which is fine, because it's a movie, but it definitely isn't realistic. Although it is still more realistic than John Wick's bulletproof 3 piece suits that can take hundreds of shots.
@@ph4tboy I've pondered that myself, would it throw people back hollywood style if all the force of a 45-70 was stopping on plates instead of passing through and going on? Humans aren't enough resistance for that cartridge to get energy dump.
@@preparedmindstrongspirit5724 Go to 16:55 in the below video. The 45-70 barely threw the armor plate back, let alone if a 180lb man was behind it. czcams.com/video/-eBo77AgW6s/video.html
@@preparedmindstrongspirit5724 also remember Newton's 3rd law. The force of recoil of the gun against your shoulder is the same force that is delivered to your target. It's just that it's more concentrated over a much smaller area, which is why it's deadly. If the bullet could somehow dump all its energy into its target and make it fly backwards a few feet, it will do the same to the shooter.
The cop (Hugh Dillon) in the scene at 1:49 - who gets shot by Renner - has played in other Taylor Sheridan’s projects. He got shot, and killed in the diner that was being robbed in *Yellowstone* (Sheriff Donnie Haskell) when Rip and John Dutton stopped for lunch. He was also in Mayor of Kingstown, starring none other than … Jeremy Renner.
So much shown and not said, like the mother cutting herself or the father cracking and breaking down to Cory hits so hard even for someone who hasn't had kids yet
I'm just trying to figure out what the plan was? I'm fairly certain the authorities would notice that an FBI agent, The chief of tribal police, and several sheriff's deputies are dead....
I think you need to remember that these are lughead dudebro types that don’t seem to think that far ahead for anything, much less heinous crimes. This is pretty par for the course for “sovereign citizen” types.
Someone posted on the IMDB: "During the course of the shoot, writer-director Taylor Sheridan was visited on set by some Shoshone tribal leaders who astonished him with the revelation that, at that very time, there were 12 unsolved murders of young women on a reservation of about 6,000 people. Due to a 1978 landmark government ruling (Oliphant v. Suquamish), the Supreme Court stripped tribes of the right to arrest and prosecute non-natives who commit crimes on native land. If neither victim nor perpetrator are native, a county or state officer must make the arrest. If the perpetrator is non-native and the victim an enrolled member, only a federally-certified agent has that right. If the opposite is true, a tribal officer can make the arrest, but the case must still go to federal court. This quagmire creates a jurisdictional nightmare by choking up the legal process on reservations to such a degree, many criminals go unpunished indefinitely for serious crimes." The argument in a previous scene about jurisdiction suggests that these guys only vaguely know the laws. And then the FBI shows up, which puts them all on edge. And it's shown throughout the movie that the guy that shoots her through the door is a psychotic idiot who escalates everything to an absurd degree. So I don't think there was a plan. Tensions were high, the security guards all knew that they were accomplices to rape and murder (AT LEAST), and the chief of security tossed all their fates into the hands of the psychotic idiot when he said, "FBI is standing in front of the door."
@@TheStupidestBitch also, all of these guys participated in beating the boyfriend to death and had dropped him out in the woods. They have already demonstrated they don’t plan, but react, and they were ‘protecting’ one of their own, so it’s fight or flight. And, once one pulls and starts shooting, everyone is all in at that point. If the bad guys had prevailed, I suspect they would have all disappeared and gone off the grid. That’s the wont of these tykes of folks (grew up in NE Nevada 50 years ago and, trust me, these types of folks existed then and still do).
I love this movie and I love how accurately handguns are portrayed in terms of effect on target. The effect of the AR (full auto spray n pray leading to singular hits that instantly incapacitate 3 people) or the 45-70 (sending people flying backward and instantly incapacitating) is a strange one to miss having gotten pistols right
@@MaximumBob A human getting hit by a 45-70 is pretty grim. I think I recall him custom loading ammo in this movie and I've seen up to 500gr bullets in 45-70. Big dumb artillery is what it is but the flying backward thing is whack. There is an article in American Rifleman where a hunter accidentally killed two cape buffalo with one round with a 45-70 when it killed the one he was aiming at and the one behind it he couldn't see. Having shot both, I'd rather shoot .50bmg than 45-70. It kills on one end and maims on the other.
@@aegeas2k I own a Marlin 1895 and it’s a good little lead slinger. On pigs and white tail it gets the job done, and I LOVE the round, but yea, this movie greatly exaggerates its down range effect
@@AceofCrazy89 45-70 can kill anything on this planet but shooting it is miserable. I'm not even kidding when I say that .50bmg is easier on your shoulder. First hand experience. The only thing I would want a 45-70 for is a brush gun against bear and moose. Short weapon, tough, and hits like a cement truck full of tungsten.
Renner is excellent in this film. If you think about quite a few events in the film, somethings do not make much sense. Perhaps parts of the story were cut out. I liked the film even so, but if you watch it don't think about it too much. The actors are all excellent.
I never forgot the first time I saw this scene, specifically when the background music started, these moments in your life when you forget the world around you and feel you are inside the movie with them.. that's why we love movies ❤
Watching this as a cop, you start to flag all of the mistakes that the cops and FBI agent make and it just builds the anxiety leading up to the fight even more. Never stand in front of a door.
Anyone answer: does that kind of rifle really deliver that much force. I mean thats incredible those guys weigh like 150+ minimum for sure without gear.
I mean, from a Newtonian physics point of view, where every action has an equal an opposite reaction, no. That is, if that bullet could flip the guy up and onto a table, then when the shooter fired it, that much force would be delivered to his shoulder, knocking the shooter off his feet and backward a couple off meters. Having said that: without a vest, the bullet goes right through your body. With a vest, the bullet transfers that energy to your vest which will knock you down; even a pistol shot to a vest can move you if you were already leaning backward, away for the shooter.
Watch the shot in the trailer in .25x playback speed. It just looks big because he falls over the table and gets stuck in between it and the wall for a moment. Like others have commented, the armor they're wearing prevents the bullet from just passing right through them. Instead it imparts a ton of momentum into the armor before it penetrates. So that momentum is then transferred into their torso and they appear to be thrown.
Cory is using a 45/70 marlin with 500grain rounds, that round is for hunting buffalo, moose, elk large game animals. Those kevlar vest had no chance of stopping those rounds. Went hog hunting a few years ago and shot a hog with 45/70 with 402 grain rounds, it flipped the pig.
@@mandomerc-ke7mm He's correct actually. .45-70 is not as effective as some .30 derivatives at penetrating Level 4 armor. .45-70 are generally flat nose bullets. What it does however is punch that plate so far into their chest that it completely shatters all their ribs completely eliminating them as a threat, if not killing them from punctured lung. All that momentum shoving him off his feet is completely plausible though as he said. It's a nasty ass round. The US Cavalry used this against the native Americans to devastating effect.
For the life of me I can’t understand what they thought their endgame was. No way do you walk away from this, even if you win the day, it’s over. You think nobody knows where all these cops were going? Who they were going to see? This was a horrible plan.
Although you're correct in that BIA is under Federal not local jurisdiction, and therefore much more accountable, the sheer scale of where they are means help is not coming soon. Not to mention security might be protected class depending on their contractors who might be in with DOD. I do sometimes wonder if we're just the mini Alaska we have at home, or if we're just as formidable. I would say the former because we're still contiguous via interstates, while Alaska interior or Aleutian Islands are probably the true wild West
Oh and I once slept in my car near Sacajawea 's memorial in Wind River Reservation this past September, and got woken up by a loud knocking noise. Thought it was a cop or a curious gang banger, so I got my silenced gun and peeked out of my sleeping bag; fucking nothing around my car which was surrounded by short grass in the late September summer night. Turned out it was my teeth chattering. Whoops
Saw it. Seemed cool at the time, but to me, it doesn't hold up. Pacino's character takes a headshot of a guy holding a child as a shield. Nah. Too Hollywood. Now, it just seems like a bunch of 50 to 60-year-old guys running around with guns. @@cornelisd6450
Why was she only aiming for the guy's legs as if there was a truck between them and his legs were the only thing exposed??? She could have just shifted fire up, or in the urban prone simply shift right a bit.......
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RIP to the realest Deputy who saw the bullshit from the start and went out with bravery
What the f**k you doing? Why are you flanking me? You got us on both sides
As far as famous last words go, "fucking let's go" is pure badass.
@@paintsofwarwhat are you guys talking about ? Whose last word is this ?
@@itsbonkerjojo9028 Watch the video at 1:15
@@itsbonkerjojo9028 This deputy earlier recognized that those guys were shady.
The last conversation in this movie between Renner’s character and the murdered girl’s father is just amazing. You can just feel the hole inside him.
Not as big as the holes he left on those guys he shot
Nice level action rifle. Wonder what caliber it was?
@@johnfernandez7221 45-70
@@johnfernandez7221it’s 45-70 government, very expensive rounds
Did she die?
This is a perfect example of an action scene that happens naturally because of the events of the plot, not because the movie needs an action scene.
wtf are you talking about. how is it "natural" for all these security guys to just start unloading onto the cops. they clearly planned it out as the flanking scene shows but its inane because there's no long term plan that makes any sense. okay youve ambushed and killed all these cops and a federal agent, now what? bury the bodies and hope nobody else comes? scatter into the wilderness? if they were so afraid that the killer was going to tell the cops how they were all complicit in the R then why didn't they just kill him or let the police kill him instead of risking 1000 year felony murder sentences for murdering police officers?
Yup, plot driven action, not action just because.
Interesting observation of cause & effect.
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All this time I never realized it was directed by Taylor Sheridan, no wonder it was such a damn good movie. And honestly it may be the best Jeremey Renner film
along with The Town...also, The Hurt Locker was great too
Yah this is definitely top 3, Hurt Locker and The Town are incredible
I thought the Bourne film he did was perhaps the best one. I think it is called Bourne Legacy.
Bourse legacy was a terrible film that’s never talked about .. unless in a derisory sense ! 🙄
I feel this was an underrated movie that flew below the radar for a while. I love how Sheridan portrays rural stories and law enforcement; how many Hollywood movies star a Fish and Wildlife Agent as their main character? As one who lives in a rural area, this is brilliant. Love Renner and Elizabeth Olsen. Plus a few Sheridan regulars. Awesome movie.
"Fuck you let's go" I love that part
if i m ever in a gunfight i wish i can keep the same attitude
Man went out with honor, dignity and pride and braverer. Very realistic scene where so few bullets hit their targets because of panic and fear.
@@davsny5 And center mass shots that hit body armor.
Another line that's easy to miss is "Don't get up" and the guy responds "No, I'm getting up" and gets shot dead. Badass all round here.
It makes no sense that he'd say that instead of just shooting...Hollywood is lowwwwww quality
This scene had my heart RACING the first time I saw it. This movie was one of the most gripping movies I've ever seen
One of the all time most underrated movies. Ever.
dunno about "gripping" for me, but I'm okay with that... excellent scene. Damn good movie.
In case you haven't seen the movie, this scene is a big spoiler. That said, the shootout is between Sheriff's deputies from the town and the private security guys for an oil company. The security guys (in black) were supposedly escorting the deputies to the suspect for the murders & cover-up being investigated by the female FBI agent, but as it turns out, they're ALL in on it. The dude in white who showed up is a local Fish & Wildlife agent she was working with - he's also the one who warned the Sheriff over the radio, which is how the Sheriff knew it was a trap and yelled for the FBI agent to move away from the door.
I thought the warning happened because the Sheriff knew Jane was being set up once the guy announced she was right in front of the door. They already had suspicions, when the rig security were trying to get positioning on them as they all walked along. They just weren't suspicious enough.
@@gideonoctober9830 No, she didn't
This movie was the best story and direction I’ve seen in decades
@@michaelnuss372 I agree. Very good movie.
Haven't seen the movie, want to blue.
On another note, I hear people shit on fish and game all the time, myself once included. A friend of mine works in law enforcement and he made a comment to me one time about that side of the law. He said, people shit on fish and game, but no one thinks about that the ONLY people they come into contact with are always armed, and always armed with bigger and badder guns than have, 100% of the time they're on the Job. They're also the only ones that can speak day in and day out on behalf of the habitats they're entrusted to protect.
That shit hit home
One of the most realistic scenes I ever seen in the movie. I was completely caught off guard when I first seen the movie
Overall aye. Besides the female lead being saved by the massive plot armor, including the concealed marksman. She really had no rights surviving that initial shot alone, a prime example of why real, actual FBI and even more general LEOs are trained NOT to stand in front of the damn door. Let alone everything else afterwards. Granted shit gets crazy fast, and she is shown being blown back and taking time to get her breath back; however, a shotgun at point blank through a paper-thin trailer door is practically game over. FBI issue body armor is like level III, which can maybe stop most handgun calibers and some rifle calibers.
Personally I'm not going to be betting on surviving a CQC shotgun while wearing anything less than a level 4+ with plates. Even then it better be damn good money.
Ever “saw.” Its saw….not seen. 😉
What about the second time you watched it?
@@soulstalker6 Ok buddy
Such a great movie and such a great scene.
What a masterpiece this film is...Not a single thing you can throw out.
Well what about the absolute garbage last scene where the baddies lungs hemmorage in the cold air? Made the whole movie stupid.
@@andrewmoir i don't agree. This movie is just like an ancient Greek tragedy.It's nemesis for the young girls death.Hybris and subsequent punishment. Restoring the order of things means he has to die the same way. And we must watch it.
Like the other guy said, the fact that a biological impossibility was focused on and mentioned so much was kind of annoying. Especially since most of the rest of the movie was quite realistic. They could’ve just went with the girl, and the guy at the end, dying of hypothermia. They didn’t have to throw in the BS lung thing
I don't think he had reached that point where his lungs froze, I'm not sure where either of you are getting that from? He likely died from blood loss, passing out from pain and hypothermia/frostbite, or a combination of all three. The point of that scene was he couldn't hack the run that the girl made. Not even close.
@@Montaph It was implied by him spitting up blood.
This movie had the very best flashback scene ever filmed, when Elizabeth Olsen knocks on the trailer door, then the fate of the Indian woman and her boyfriend is revealed. I have never seen a better, more seamless cinematographic flashback.
Not to mention that all of the acting was superb, and that Jeremy Renner's character administered natural justice at the film's climax. This movie was important, had a clear message, and was a pleasure and quite thrilling to watch.
two Avengers walk into a trailer
all time great movie. screenplay, direction, acting, photography, all are first rate across the board. i'm impacted by just rewatching a scene.
Life must be rough if this gets you going…
Great for its time. Like the weekend it came out. But hardly “all time.”
.45-70 for the win! Such a devastating round.
Thats definitely a flat magnum round.
@@faisalyousufosman3752 no dumbfuck it's a marlin guide gun 45-70, you can see the rifle plain as day
Notice how similar the uniforms of both sides are, also the standoff before they reach the trailer is fabulous, heavy hints as to what lies ahead.
I forgot how brutal the ending of this movie was. The whole movie was really, really good. Scary how brutal & terrible people can be. Sometimes it just takes a moment to propel folks into an evil direction. They have already had bits of it in them, but earlier in the movie. Horsing around, quickly turned into murder & rape, and more murder......Just sad.
Fantastic movie & cast.
Power makes people bad. Absolute power makes them their worst.
This movie will wear you out. Be prepared. Maybe the most gut wrenching movie I’ve ever watched. Little fanfare given to this movie but easily one of my top ten favorites of all time.
That muzzle control at 3:26 well done Jeremy.
Excellent! I did not see that
@@Smellindamix you didn’t…..because it wasn’t.
But that 45-70 was sick
At the police academy they taught us never to stand right in front of the door, always to the side for this very reason. Very realistic shoot-out. You will miss way more shots then you make with your adrenaline pumping.
'Hey Jake, it's Curtis. FBI is standing in front of the door, open up.' She should have heard that for what it was, letting Jake know where to shoot.
Are you still a cop or did you quit and go get a real job?
@@acewings221 Hey look, another washed up applicant.
@@nikolai3620 lmao, cops are losers. why would anyone apply to be one?
@@acewings221 I’m still an agent. Been doing for almost 13 years now. Please keep that same attitude when you call 911 bc someone stole your Bernie sign out of your yard.
Never been left so depressed from a movie that coincidentally has one of the best scores and shootouts ive seen in film.
Come to Wyoming it's actually nicer than expected
@@ffnovice7 it wasn't Wyoming that made me depressed just humans. The natural beauty of this country is nuts. The People can leave something to be desired though.
@@tylerstears4445 inseparable
@@tylerstears4445Heard that, brother. These types exist, though thankfully few and far between. Most people may be selfish, but fortunately not homicidal.
The amount of idiots willing to die/be hunted by the police just to protect a rapist piece of trash is despressing.
And this shit happens in real life so there ya go
Totally agree, but I'd suggest they were protecting themselves because they knew what would happen if the rapist was taken into custody. No doubt would have sold him out him if they weren't involved.
The point is that they all participated in the rape and subsequent murder of both of them and as such are co-participants in many crimes.
@@Skurvy2k look how many soldiers current president has.
@@equos5060 #whataboutism really is all they got.
Props to the stuntman falling in the table, it’s the small things like that that really make scenes pop
I just disliked that part at first because it was exaggerated. What do hit him? a cannonball? ... Well, it ended up being a 45/70 caliber. (from a henry rifle, not sure) yes a canon ball
@@marcelbeck6865 The rifle is a Marlin M1895 in .45-70
@@AndrewAMartin Thaks
Look like how characters die in Hitman video games when shot from a sniper rifle 😂 That failing body
its a cool shot but unrealistic.
Underrated film right here!
who said its underrated?
@@newtonmetres it wasn't advertised well or hyped up before release is what they mean so it got very little attention and views
Vvs films has it on yt for free
@@imp13 Well that is not 'underrated.' That would be not rated. It is a common idiotic and ignorant thing to call something underrated when, in fact, it is highly rated and you are just trying to use your limited vocabulary to express that you liked the film but you didn't see any reviews on tiktok or w/e bullshit you derive your opinions from.
Nah, overrated. clap clap clapclapclap.
These are some of the best good guy side characters in a single movie i have ever seen, every cop not afraid to die for their duty.
Cops willing to start a shootout with indigenous people to defend a rapist murderer in their ranks does sound accurate, yes
Fleshed out nicely as individual personalities. I loved the first stand-off and verbal exchange, after the “he was flanking me!”
Until they are real cops, standing around outside of a school in Texas…
I should add, real cops cowering outside of an elementary school in Texas.
@@artb1974meanwhile cops in nashville rushed in and took out the shooter fast. Not all cops are the same pal.
That shootout surprised me, even though an earier scene nearly had a shootout. thats good storytelling.
Directed by the dude who wrote Yellowstone.
This movie hurt my soul. That poor young lady running threw the snow to get home after being brutally raped was heart wrenching 😢
I'm glad the movie made a point that she's not a victim, she's a WARRIOR. She run 6 miles in the snow, barefoot, all through pure will to live.
@@davidci Well, bt a victim too, if she was raped. There's no need to go full Oprahtard about it.
She still should never have come to that place among all those sex-starved blokes. And the boyfriend was clearly old enough to be able to think with his big head, and not with his little head down below. Should've just escorted her home straight away and told her that bedroom fun can be done elsewhere. Dumb mistakes all-round really.
Tbf they somewhat address her naivete when she asks him about maybe moving to new York Chicago La, because she wants out of reservation life. The Iraq veteran lets her know his opinions of those places (I'm actually in his boat in Wyoming too with a wifey ⅔s my age in the works), and wanting to move to God's country, somewhere around lake Tahoe.
One great tactical detail is that the security mostly survived and the deputies did not, due to body armor and lack thereof. They had handguns, shotgun, and auto rifle, and the native sheriffs had handguns and only got a kill with head shots.
Cory 's handloads were enough to punch plates. Shotgun rounds generally don't penetrate higher level body armor. Buck is like 10±2 9mm pellets all at once so the penetration is generally not there. It's possible the thonged agent realistically survived with hospitalization, but less likely than just dying outright.
Maybe Cory was actually right about her being a survivor. Can't wait for the sequel
@@eddielong8663Thank you, Captain hindsight. Your ability to victim blame movie characters is impeccable.
You already knew how the scene ended at that point. He likely lived day in and day out with these clowns and never would've imagined it'd go that far.
What I can say is I love this movie and this is a realistic shootout. You always see on tv and movies guys shooting a million rounds and not hitting anyone. In this case still as many people were shooting many rounds and still not hitting people in spitting distance at first and had to empty mags until they hit people, well you have to take a tactical course and you see that moving and shooting is hard and not like standing at a lane in the shooting range. Add a little adrenaline and shake and stir and well you don't hit shit for awhile.
I think about a shootout I believe was in Dallas, cop and perp we're a few feet apart and mag dumped without hitting anything. Although JR is a little OP, there's a huge difference between trained people with experience and some thugs. He who keeps cool often wins
@@TeddyOG LOL cops if you know many of them a good amount can't shoot worth a darn
You're very correct! 🤔
@@EugeneSSmith Also high stress situations are highly different than shooting paper targets. Even moving with no threat at a tactical course makes hitting your target very hard if you ever took a course before or practiced on your own.
If they just had a better funded police force and equipped everybody with rifles this would have gone differently.
Jeremy Renner! A very good actor. Love his movies. Get well Jeremy and make more.
Agree with that. Renner strikes me as the type who probably wasn't a naturally gifted actor and who really had to slog extra hard to break into the A-list. His shortish stature and average joe look about him would've been a hurdle aswell one would think. It's easy to tell how seriously he takes his job with the intensity he demonstrates in all his performances.
I remember the minute I heard the one guy say, "FBI is standing in front of the door open up" what was going to happen. It's a detail a lot of people missed but the guy was deliberately trying to have her shot through the door. The only one who caught on was the police chief.
The police chief knew because Cory came through on the radio and warned him the tracks led back to the rig site. The only part I don't know is why the bald guy shot his own man in the head after the shootout. Mercy kill perhaps?
@@tomaofdonewelll7810 I think it could be cuz they can't have ones that are badly injured go to a hospital & having more agents & other law investigate the rig site. Best to try & sweep it under the carpet best they can. The other 2 crew members that got shot were totally fine then and could possibly patch themselves up after. So I think it's a can't take the risk deal. Sure the policemen that died are gonna be investigated too but they'll prob weasel themselves out of suspicion like their coworker or have enough time to disappear.
@@tomaofdonewelll7810 That wasn't one of his own men. It was a Bureau of Indian Affairs police officer and he was on the side of the FBI and the deputies. The BIA uniforms were also dark and a sort of similar to the security guard uniforms (the bad guys). If you look at his shoulder patch you'll see it's different than the security company's shoulder patch.
@@arkwill14 Oh right. Makes more sense, thanks for clearing that up.
I didn’t miss it.
It’s great when movies are procedural. Taking their time. Building character and tension. Then it ends in a single explosive action scene. Wind River, LA Confidential, Proof of Life.
I can think of another. My all time favorite movie, Heat.
Collateral too. The disco shootout and the thug theft scenes are amazing.
One of the best shootout scenes ever ! Totaly unexpected .
The realism in this gunfight is superb except for the two guys flying backwards. Other than that the chaos and adrenaline are outrageous. Great movie
I contribute that to a hand loaded 45-70, they’re normally slow and fat. I assumed he upped his rounds to be shooting at humans
45-70 is a freakin huge round meant to take down elephants. The guys flying back are a little exaggerated at some parts but others like the 2 guys outside I image aren’t too too far off
They were wearing plates. Bullet will knock you ass over whether it penetrates or not. Big game round.
@@patrickcroft3158 That's right. I did forget they were wearing body armor. That would do it for sure.
You get hit with a 400 grain hard cast 45-70 slug and you'll fly to Jesus, too.
"Fuck you! Let's go!" Famous last line
Damn freaking good movie!!! Very few films will actually have me on the edge of my seat but this one definitely did!!
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@@user-kv2qh3te7nWind River
The Shotgun and Marlin shots were satisfying. I really love this movie when I first watched
I have watched this movie a few times. We need many more good movies like this one.
Ends just a few seconds too soon, just as he's saying, "I won't bring him back," meaning he'll go get him but he's not gonna arrest him, he's gonna kill him. He says, "You have to know that." She says she knows, says, "Go get him."
Yeah, after taking one in the chest from a shotgun she's all out of fucks to give.
This is officially in my top 3 movies. Wow. The acting, the writing, the direction.. the fuckin music. I haven't been moved by a movie like that in ages .
I love how Wanda can be an OP God in one universe and a weak FBI agent in another but Hawkeye will always be Hawkeye in all universes.
I dunno about weak shes pretty badass
She took a shotgun to the chest, got off a headshot, and attempted a reload in front of 3 armed men, crawled off to wound the last guy. Shes’ a warrior.
@M W lol that wasn’t to this comment I’m not sure why it’s under it but in any case it wasn’t a feminist thing she is a “she” the other 3 are “men”
She’s not weak…far from it!
@@lukewhatidid1735. You’re right and nice callback.
Damn, she is beautiful. I like the "Fuck you let's go" and the respect the security worker had for the deputy and his fight to the end, never say die, attitude, when he padded him on the chest.
patted
Kinda s need more like a taunt than a respect thing Imo but I guess that’s up to interpretation
@@leeroy2461 That was my thought. Now I'm second guessing.
It wasn’t respect, it was a last ‘fuxk you, I won’ pat
I took it as a fake consolation. Like "Good try, buddy."
I’ll never forget watching this scene for the first time. My stomach was in my throat.
one of the best scenes, the idea of drowning in air resonates so well in this shootout, gasping for air and shooting back
Overall a pretty good scene. My one complaint is how close the two shots were together after 2:11. I wish the director had put in an extra second or two to make it more realistic. Cory is shooting at distance with a pretty powerful lever-action gun. Having to deal with the recoil and cycle the action, even for a really good shooter, it would be unlikely to get off two well-aimed shots that quickly and get both hits.
Oh, and a minor editing mistake. Jane lifts her gun to reload twice (in the background at 1:39 and again in main frame at 1:41)
That's a secondary point. The primary point is that a 45-70 even loaded to the max isn't going to be throwing people back into walls. I have several Marlin 45-70s, including the same kind of 1895SBL in this scene. There is no way it can do what's depicted here. Shit, even a 700 Nitro Express wouldn't do that. It's very much artistic licence for the sake of wow factor. Which is fine, because it's a movie, but it definitely isn't realistic. Although it is still more realistic than John Wick's bulletproof 3 piece suits that can take hundreds of shots.
@@ph4tboy I've pondered that myself, would it throw people back hollywood style if all the force of a 45-70 was stopping on plates instead of passing through and going on? Humans aren't enough resistance for that cartridge to get energy dump.
@@preparedmindstrongspirit5724
Go to 16:55 in the below video. The 45-70 barely threw the armor plate back, let alone if a 180lb man was behind it.
czcams.com/video/-eBo77AgW6s/video.html
@@preparedmindstrongspirit5724 also remember Newton's 3rd law. The force of recoil of the gun against your shoulder is the same force that is delivered to your target. It's just that it's more concentrated over a much smaller area, which is why it's deadly. If the bullet could somehow dump all its energy into its target and make it fly backwards a few feet, it will do the same to the shooter.
Wherever this movie stands in the rated department, it's totally underrated
Me sitting here never having seen an ounce of Wind River:
"WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED."
Ahhhhh, I know. Like, what? Why’d that happen? What did the little dog ever do to Michelle Tanner’s sister!!
The cop (Hugh Dillon) in the scene at 1:49 - who gets shot by Renner - has played in other Taylor Sheridan’s projects. He got shot, and killed in the diner that was being robbed in *Yellowstone* (Sheriff Donnie Haskell) when Rip and John Dutton stopped for lunch. He was also in Mayor of Kingstown, starring none other than … Jeremy Renner.
Just realized with my wife the director uses same actors in a lot of shows/movies it’s dopw
Sheridan's the Tarantino of the Rockies (Sicario counts too).
Sheridan is a city in Wyoming. Over 10,000! Wild
This is probably my favorite shootout of the last 20 years.
Sheridan is so loyal with his actors that he puts them in every movies he made.
Great scene, great film. Jeremy is so very good in this.
Wind River is a great movie in every way from beginning to end.
I know it’s exaggerated, but he packs his 45-70 “hot”. Would not want to get hit by that.
That round would drop 2000 lb bison…
I'm not saying it's gonna blow you back but if he's packing hot hollows for full size game it's gonna fkn blow a hole thru you without stopping
Underrated movie.....this movie is just fantastic!!..
It's even better than I remember it from when i first saw the movie. Might be worth watching the whole thing over again!
No way in hell a rifle round hits hard enough to flip a guy over.
Funny thing about a really good film you never get bored with watching this was a very well crafted story.
So much shown and not said, like the mother cutting herself or the father cracking and breaking down to Cory hits so hard even for someone who hasn't had kids yet
I'm just trying to figure out what the plan was?
I'm fairly certain the authorities would notice that an FBI agent, The chief of tribal police, and several sheriff's deputies are dead....
Same here. Not to mention you’d think they would bring in more officers and more guns since they are aware that they’re all armed security
I think you need to remember that these are lughead dudebro types that don’t seem to think that far ahead for anything, much less heinous crimes. This is pretty par for the course for “sovereign citizen” types.
Someone posted on the IMDB:
"During the course of the shoot, writer-director Taylor Sheridan was visited on set by some Shoshone tribal leaders who astonished him with the revelation that, at that very time, there were 12 unsolved murders of young women on a reservation of about 6,000 people. Due to a 1978 landmark government ruling (Oliphant v. Suquamish), the Supreme Court stripped tribes of the right to arrest and prosecute non-natives who commit crimes on native land. If neither victim nor perpetrator are native, a county or state officer must make the arrest. If the perpetrator is non-native and the victim an enrolled member, only a federally-certified agent has that right. If the opposite is true, a tribal officer can make the arrest, but the case must still go to federal court. This quagmire creates a jurisdictional nightmare by choking up the legal process on reservations to such a degree, many criminals go unpunished indefinitely for serious crimes."
The argument in a previous scene about jurisdiction suggests that these guys only vaguely know the laws. And then the FBI shows up, which puts them all on edge. And it's shown throughout the movie that the guy that shoots her through the door is a psychotic idiot who escalates everything to an absurd degree. So I don't think there was a plan. Tensions were high, the security guards all knew that they were accomplices to rape and murder (AT LEAST), and the chief of security tossed all their fates into the hands of the psychotic idiot when he said, "FBI is standing in front of the door."
@@TheStupidestBitch also, all of these guys participated in beating the boyfriend to death and had dropped him out in the woods. They have already demonstrated they don’t plan, but react, and they were ‘protecting’ one of their own, so it’s fight or flight. And, once one pulls and starts shooting, everyone is all in at that point.
If the bad guys had prevailed, I suspect they would have all disappeared and gone off the grid. That’s the wont of these tykes of folks (grew up in NE Nevada 50 years ago and, trust me, these types of folks existed then and still do).
they didn't have a detailed thought-out plan. they were cornered and realized they had been found out and acted out of panic.
I guess .45-70 is now .50 cal lol
That was the only thing that took me out of the movie. It's powerful but not throw your across the room powerful
This is the. Movie that got Taylor Sheridan noticed 👍👌
I love this movie and I love how accurately handguns are portrayed in terms of effect on target.
The effect of the AR (full auto spray n pray leading to singular hits that instantly incapacitate 3 people) or the 45-70 (sending people flying backward and instantly incapacitating) is a strange one to miss having gotten pistols right
I love the movie, but I'm just here for the gun discussions
@@MaximumBob A human getting hit by a 45-70 is pretty grim. I think I recall him custom loading ammo in this movie and I've seen up to 500gr bullets in 45-70. Big dumb artillery is what it is but the flying backward thing is whack. There is an article in American Rifleman where a hunter accidentally killed two cape buffalo with one round with a 45-70 when it killed the one he was aiming at and the one behind it he couldn't see. Having shot both, I'd rather shoot .50bmg than 45-70. It kills on one end and maims on the other.
@@aegeas2k I own a Marlin 1895 and it’s a good little lead slinger. On pigs and white tail it gets the job done, and I LOVE the round, but yea, this movie greatly exaggerates its down range effect
@@AceofCrazy89 45-70 can kill anything on this planet but shooting it is miserable. I'm not even kidding when I say that .50bmg is easier on your shoulder. First hand experience. The only thing I would want a 45-70 for is a brush gun against bear and moose. Short weapon, tough, and hits like a cement truck full of tungsten.
OMG, you’re right. The guns do look portrayed so well! Just like a real gun.
When doing knife combat training years ago, I remember the instructor saying "if you get in a knife fight, you will get cut, just deal with it."
I like how this guy isn't worried about the guy running away in the snow. He knows it's already yours because he can follow your tracks.
"Fuck you, let's go."
Renner is excellent in this film. If you think about quite a few events in the film, somethings do not make much sense. Perhaps parts of the story were cut out. I liked the film even so, but if you watch it don't think about it too much. The actors are all excellent.
It's good to see Hawkeye and the Scarlett Witch on the same team again.
I never forgot the first time I saw this scene, specifically when the background music started, these moments in your life when you forget the world around you and feel you are inside the movie with them.. that's why we love movies ❤
"When a man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, the man with a pistol is a dead man." - Ramon Rojo
"A handgun is a great weapon to use to fight your way to ANY rifle!!!"
@elxaime "Fist Full of Dollars"?
You should have leaved those few more seconds when she answers "I know" for his "I wont bring him back". That was powerfull moment for me...
This is a great movie. Watched it twice and will watch it again.
what a perfect example of men having a civilised argument with each other.
Curtis : "FBI in front of the door...open up"
Pete : "I took that personally"
This bummed me out hard man, especially the warning right before that last cop knew something was up from the start
Such a waste of life
This movie, Sicario, and Hell High Water are my favorite Taylor Sheridan movies.
I subscribed Alphin before realizing your content is years old. Good content that sticks around...🐺
The way he signed him off this world was poetic ,the best kill i ve ever seen on tv .
This scene was brutal. Such a good movie.
I love how Jeremy Renner's character is just standing right out in the open with zero fucks given.
They still couldn't see him. That white suit. 😁
Thanks for making the clip!
Why. Just watch the movie.
2:06
Can you stand?
I dunno.
Well, you better figure it out cause we're not done yet!
*Little did they know-*
Cory: and I took that personally
*BANG* *BANG*
A wild hunter appears.
No fairy tail gun fight here this was the real deal no glamour
“I won’t bring him back.” That’s for sure. That little coward got what he deserved.
This shooting scene along with the one in Heat, are my favorite.
Tyler Sheridan is the man when it comes to directing this genre of films.
Such an underrated film. ❤
As a retired cop, I was heavily impacted by this scene on a number of levels. A powerful movie.
saw this movie yesterday....simply amazing...
That FBI agent cost them their lives. Her inexperience showed.
Love this scene but at 02:25 the guy gets tossed over a table from a bullet strike like it was a Bruce Lee roundhouse kick.
"The FBI is standing in front of the door". How slow on the uptake was she on this?
Shootout ranks right up there with Michael Mann's "Heat".
One of my favorite movies of all time. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Watching this as a cop, you start to flag all of the mistakes that the cops and FBI agent make and it just builds the anxiety leading up to the fight even more. Never stand in front of a door.
The FBI agent was out of this world stupid.
Anyone answer: does that kind of rifle really deliver that much force. I mean thats incredible those guys weigh like 150+ minimum for sure without gear.
I mean, from a Newtonian physics point of view, where every action has an equal an opposite reaction, no. That is, if that bullet could flip the guy up and onto a table, then when the shooter fired it, that much force would be delivered to his shoulder, knocking the shooter off his feet and backward a couple off meters. Having said that: without a vest, the bullet goes right through your body. With a vest, the bullet transfers that energy to your vest which will knock you down; even a pistol shot to a vest can move you if you were already leaning backward, away for the shooter.
I think because he wearing a vest so the supersonic bullet push all the energy through thus yeeting him
Watch the shot in the trailer in .25x playback speed. It just looks big because he falls over the table and gets stuck in between it and the wall for a moment. Like others have commented, the armor they're wearing prevents the bullet from just passing right through them. Instead it imparts a ton of momentum into the armor before it penetrates. So that momentum is then transferred into their torso and they appear to be thrown.
Cory is using a 45/70 marlin with 500grain rounds, that round is for hunting buffalo, moose, elk large game animals. Those kevlar vest had no chance of stopping those rounds. Went hog hunting a few years ago and shot a hog with 45/70 with 402 grain rounds, it flipped the pig.
@@mandomerc-ke7mm He's correct actually. .45-70 is not as effective as some .30 derivatives at penetrating Level 4 armor. .45-70 are generally flat nose bullets. What it does however is punch that plate so far into their chest that it completely shatters all their ribs completely eliminating them as a threat, if not killing them from punctured lung. All that momentum shoving him off his feet is completely plausible though as he said. It's a nasty ass round. The US Cavalry used this against the native Americans to devastating effect.
This scene pissed me off to my core. Thats how you know its a good movie when it brings you to a degree of high emotions
this was an amazing movie. anyone got any recomendations for ones like it? cheers.
For the life of me I can’t understand what they thought their endgame was. No way do you walk away from this, even if you win the day, it’s over. You think nobody knows where all these cops were going? Who they were going to see? This was a horrible plan.
I think that’s kind of point of movie to show how it’s still kind of Wild West out there that they could have buried bodies etc gotten away
Entirely depends on what law enforcement remains in the area.
Although you're correct in that BIA is under Federal not local jurisdiction, and therefore much more accountable, the sheer scale of where they are means help is not coming soon. Not to mention security might be protected class depending on their contractors who might be in with DOD.
I do sometimes wonder if we're just the mini Alaska we have at home, or if we're just as formidable. I would say the former because we're still contiguous via interstates, while Alaska interior or Aleutian Islands are probably the true wild West
Oh and I once slept in my car near Sacajawea 's memorial in Wind River Reservation this past September, and got woken up by a loud knocking noise.
Thought it was a cop or a curious gang banger, so I got my silenced gun and peeked out of my sleeping bag; fucking nothing around my car which was surrounded by short grass in the late September summer night.
Turned out it was my teeth chattering. Whoops
One of the best movies ever
1:54 didn't even notice him the first time, scary good use of camo.
This, and the shootout from "Hold the Dark" (2018) are my favorite movie shootout scenes.
Watch "Heat", get back to us.....
Saw it. Seemed cool at the time, but to me, it doesn't hold up. Pacino's character takes a headshot of a guy holding a child as a shield. Nah. Too Hollywood. Now, it just seems like a bunch of 50 to 60-year-old guys running around with guns. @@cornelisd6450
Such an intense scene.
Fuckin awesome movie Renner was badass in this role
No he wasn’t.
Sought this same magnificence in Yellowstone. Still trying to find. Sicario, Comancheria and Wind River are a perfect trilogy.
Yellowstone is so unbelievably bad compared to Taylors movies hey
Why was she only aiming for the guy's legs as if there was a truck between them and his legs were the only thing exposed??? She could have just shifted fire up, or in the urban prone simply shift right a bit.......