They were deliberately robbed of a medal. The judges strategically scored them so that it would come down to a tie-breaker in the free dance with Klimova and Ponomarenko.
What an interesting contrast to Meryl Davis and Charlie White. The sport is so much the same in some aspects and so different in others. I have always loved the ending. The politics, unfortunately, never goes away. They can't force it away with complex scoring and convoluted rules. Clever minds will always find a way.
Благодарю Вас Дай Бог Вам Здоровья и Удачи во всем Счастья Любви Радости вам всего доброго и хорошего в жизни. Огромное спасибо Вам за прекрасное видео и Танцы Шедевр. Всего самого наилучшего вам.
I remember watching this back in '84 and it had been my recollection they hadn't performed particularly well. But after watching their performance again after all these years I agree they should have held onto the bronze medal. Unfortunately, Americans performing in an Olympics held in an Eastern Bloc nation had very little chance of being rewarded appropriately by the judges due to the abhorrent biased/political judging system that was in place. Rosalynn Sumners suffered the same fate at the same Olympics, losing unfairly to Witt.
you may not remember, but the Soviet bloc was extremely powerful on the Olympic committee then; the Cold War hung on and showed itself in the judging of more than just ice dancing. Politics. The Americans had a tough hill to climb. And T&D were prettier, and great skaters, too.
Ruth R well in 1984 Torvill and Dean beat a lot of Russian skaters to win the gold medal, so i don't think the fact that those Winter Olympics were held in Yugoslavia had any bearing on the results...
I remember this program so fondly, especially the closing move, which is similar to a famous moment in Balanchine's ballet, "Prodigal Son." The Italian judge Cia Bordogna, who gave them the decisive thumbs-down, gave some truly mystifying reasoning to the New York Times: “Unfortunately, they chose music which didn’t conform to the rules of dance. The music must also be able to be danced to on earth. I approved of the couple technically ..." Apparently the Ballets Russes missed the memo in 1910 when they danced Scheherazade ... on earth, by all reports.
And hypocritically, the judges gave Torvil and Dean the gold medal for skating to Bolero, which is also a classical piece and certainly NOT a dance piece, and it NEVER changes tempo through the whole entire song, which is what the judges mainly complained about was that it didn't change tempo, but it does change tempo and meter at the end of the program. It has different tempos, unlike Bolero. I know, I'm a professional musician and I have performed Scheherezade.
@@codonbyte The thing that baffles me is that I was even watching this video 2 years ago. For the life of me, I can’t remember what possibly led me to this video, considering I’m not really a fan of ice skating (competitive or otherwise). If you don’t mind me asking, what was the significance of this performance, to the average person?
@@13CL456 I have no idea about the significance of this performance to the average person. I found this video looking for reactions to Michael Seibert (the predator who got busted twice on To Catch a Predator who shares the same name as one of the figure skaters); I'm assuming you found it in a similar fashion, since you made comments referencing To Catch a Predator.
The tragedy of this beautiful performance is that they were disqualified!! They were going against Torville & Dean, the handsome, golden, English couple, who skated to "Ravel's Bolero." As I remember it, Judy & Michael were dq'd because they "used only one musical piece." Well, so did Torville & Dean!!
+Matt G. I shouldn't have said "disqualified." They were marked doown in the second marks by the Italian judge because he said their music (Rimsky-Korsakov's Sheherezade) was "unsuitable for the Olympics" and was more for the Ice Follies. So they were demoted to 4th.
@@amybaker4654 That is actually not true about the stronger edges. Bolero was based on unique shapes and innovative tricks - definitely not a showcase for edges.
I always remember the last move of this program because it was so original and different. I always thought they got shortchanged by the judges.
They were deliberately robbed of a medal. The judges strategically scored them so that it would come down to a tie-breaker in the free dance with Klimova and Ponomarenko.
That was done by there ballet coach georgina parkinson
I have never forgotten this incredible performance. What artistry and athleticism! Bravo.
Under rated program. They were exquisite!
Olympics like these don’t come along often
I’d want them again and again
Ewps
the biggest robbery in the history of olympic figure skating.
What an interesting contrast to Meryl Davis and Charlie White. The sport is so much the same in some aspects and so different in others. I have always loved the ending. The politics, unfortunately, never goes away. They can't force it away with complex scoring and convoluted rules. Clever minds will always find a way.
Благодарю Вас Дай Бог Вам Здоровья и Удачи во всем Счастья Любви Радости вам всего доброго и хорошего в жизни. Огромное спасибо Вам за прекрасное видео и Танцы Шедевр. Всего самого наилучшего вам.
They were robbed of an Olympic medal. What a shame!
I remember watching this back in '84 and it had been my recollection they hadn't performed particularly well. But after watching their performance again after all these years I agree they should have held onto the bronze medal. Unfortunately, Americans performing in an Olympics held in an Eastern Bloc nation had very little chance of being rewarded appropriately by the judges due to the abhorrent biased/political judging system that was in place. Rosalynn Sumners suffered the same fate at the same Olympics, losing unfairly to Witt.
showmebear The fact is not all the judges were from eastern bloc nations!
I never said they were! I was suggesting the location of the event didn't help the American's chances.
showmebear why would that make any difference?
you may not remember, but the Soviet bloc was extremely powerful on the Olympic committee then; the Cold War hung on and showed itself in the judging of more than just ice dancing. Politics. The Americans had a tough hill to climb. And T&D were prettier, and great skaters, too.
Ruth R well in 1984 Torvill and Dean beat a lot of Russian skaters to win the gold medal, so i don't think the fact that those Winter Olympics were held in Yugoslavia had any bearing on the results...
Oops.
I remember this program so fondly, especially the closing move, which is similar to a famous moment in Balanchine's ballet, "Prodigal Son." The Italian judge Cia Bordogna, who gave them the decisive thumbs-down, gave some truly mystifying reasoning to the New York Times: “Unfortunately, they chose music which didn’t conform to the rules of dance. The music must also be able to be danced to on earth. I approved of the couple technically ..." Apparently the Ballets Russes missed the memo in 1910 when they danced Scheherazade ... on earth, by all reports.
And gave Torville and Sean a pass.
We should have won the silver we wrecrobbed
They weren't disqualified, they ended up in 4th place. They were marked down for using classical music that was supposedly not "dance" music.
It's probably because they were busted for doing it once, but then showed up again and did the same thing.
And hypocritically, the judges gave Torvil and Dean the gold medal for skating to Bolero, which is also a classical piece and certainly NOT a dance piece, and it NEVER changes tempo through the whole entire song, which is what the judges mainly complained about was that it didn't change tempo, but it does change tempo and meter at the end of the program. It has different tempos, unlike Bolero.
I know, I'm a professional musician and I have performed Scheherezade.
@@13CL456 The second time they did it was the day after their hearing for doing it the first time.
@@codonbyte The thing that baffles me is that I was even watching this video 2 years ago. For the life of me, I can’t remember what possibly led me to this video, considering I’m not really a fan of ice skating (competitive or otherwise).
If you don’t mind me asking, what was the significance of this performance, to the average person?
@@13CL456 I have no idea about the significance of this performance to the average person. I found this video looking for reactions to Michael Seibert (the predator who got busted twice on To Catch a Predator who shares the same name as one of the figure skaters); I'm assuming you found it in a similar fashion, since you made comments referencing To Catch a Predator.
The tragedy of this beautiful performance is that they were disqualified!! They were going against Torville & Dean, the handsome, golden, English couple, who skated to "Ravel's Bolero." As I remember it, Judy & Michael were dq'd because they "used only one musical piece." Well, so did Torville & Dean!!
+Ruth R They were not disqualified. They finished fourth.
+Matt G. I shouldn't have said "disqualified." They were marked doown in the second marks by the Italian judge because he said their music (Rimsky-Korsakov's Sheherezade) was "unsuitable for the Olympics" and was more for the Ice Follies. So they were demoted to 4th.
Ruth R Well Curry won the gold medal in 1976 using the same piece of music!
Curry was an individual skater. He was not doing ice dancing, which was evidently why the same music dq'd Siebert & Blumberrg.
Ruth R You keep saying they were disqualified but that is wrong...they were not.
We was robbed they werwvfantastic
The closing move is excellent but overall Bolero was a far superior dance.
It was better and Torvill and Dean were better skaters with stronger edge's.
@@amybaker4654 That is actually not true about the stronger edges. Bolero was based on unique shapes and innovative tricks - definitely not a showcase for edges.