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How to get that early 90's SWEDISH DEATH METAL SOUND
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- Like the heading says.
Timecodes:
- Intro: 0:00
- The Song: 0:19
- Info about the gear: 2:02
- How to get the sounds: 4:32
- How to get the sounds in a mix: 8:32
- Info about Kohlekeller Grindstein: 13:05
- More general info: 13:05
- In the Mix once more: 16:05
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This is the single most ACTUAL accurate chainsaw tone I have ever heard on the entirety of youtube's videos covering the HM-2. Thank you a LOT for this video.
Thanks Shane! Really glad to hear this! 🤟
Please it's called buzzsaw tone. Lol
@@hellfire8883 Same shit. lol
@@ricksterdrummer2170 buzzsaw sounds cooler lol.
@@hellfire8883 …
I love how your version of Swedish chainsaw have more 'body'.
Thanks! I guess it’s ’cos I used really good & powerful tube amps they used small (solid state) combos 😎.
Pun intended...
@@EugeValovirta230V Its that DS-1 - it sounds gross, dark, and somewhat unremarkable on its own but you can hear that it's the backbone of that tone
Sometimes I listen to entombed to help me sleep because the guitar tone along with the vocals vibrate my ears in a weird way that puts me to sleep. It's just super comfy I guess.
😎🤟
You have the absolute best chainsaw sound I've ever heard on youtube for real.hell ya.
Thanks Joseph! 😎🤘
Absolutely love the old school death metal Swedish sound!! Gets my gears lubricated and grinding nicely! Great video, sound is amazing and nearly perfect! Thank you sir for your contribution.
Thanks! Glad to hear! 🤟
I always thought the Entombed/dismember-sound was the ONLY thing that pedal can do. :D ..But after getting the Waza-version, I found out one can use it for anything! I really love it. My pedal is strange in that if I turn down the gain completely it "cleans out".. probably looses contact with the pot or something. Then it just gives the chainsaw-tone and feel to the next gain stage. That's very useful. Very Good video!
Thanks!
How to get that early Swedish chainsaw sound and as a bonus, give it a crushing modern feel. Nicely done.
Thanks! 😎
A short clip from this video was in 4 part documentary about Swedish metal on Swedish Television. 👍
That tone man....brings back some nice memories from the 90s..
Indeed! 😎🤘
You nailed that tone! That type of guitar is typical for that time and that DYI-attitude when you tried to achieve something that sounded cool with the stuff you could afford. Thanks to that a lot of bands sounded more different/unique compared to how it is today. I do miss that time to be honest. 😀
Thanks!
Indeed 💪👌.
damn that sounds good. Simple yet so effective can’t beat it
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Fucking excellent, your channel just keeps getting better. Yourself and Lambchoppers are my favourite CZcams guitar content. Keep up the excellent work brother.
Oh thanks! Glad to hear!
Awesome! You nailed the tone Euge! Love Entombed and the HM-2, I have 3 of those pedals, one from '83 one from '84 and the new Waza, all MIJ, best pedal ever
Thanks!
I absolutely regret selling my HM2 , I won't pay the ridiculous prices people are asking for them when I payed $50.0 for mine back in the day lol. Apparently Boss is making a waza version of this, I'll be getting one lol. Great video!
Luckily I never did 😎.
Thanks!
That intro song is SO GOOD !
Glad to hear!
Ev....It's impressive how you get the different's sounds.... Holly sh@t!!!! Awesome... Powerful.. as usual... Keeping touch.
😎💪🤘Thanks!
Brutal tone. Great video. Was never a big death metal fan, but the "wolverine blues" album was a huge influence on me.
Thanks man!
Yeah that and To Ride, Shoot straight etc - albums are my favourites. And Morning Star from 2001 is a great album too 👌.
what an awesome tune you wrote for this video! I love that chainsaw sound. i actually just ordered that cheap pink Behringer HM-2 knock off pedal the other day. Should be fun to play around with when it finally gets here (its out of stock right now)
Thanks!
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Great video! Thanks for the Grindstein part! Best wishes from Germany!
Thanks man!
Greetings from Switzerland! 😎
With this video, you became my favourite musician, audio engineer, and northern God!☺️ Thank You and Respect from Hungary!!
Oh cool! Thanks!
Fantastic video Euge, Swedish Death Metal ruless. For the next can you talk about Melodic Death Metal, how to create riffs, tips, diferences between Finnish and Swedish Melodic Death Metal, or " In the Style of " Jesper Strömblad.
Thanks!
And thanks for the suggestion; I’ve been thinking about that 😎👍.
So much this.
Trying to figure out this sound with all the things i have, which is only plugins, this video is very good, thank you! :)
Nice Euge !!! i love me some heavy asssed sh***t !!!!!
One of the best swedish Deathmetal guitar sound explanation !
Keep it on, love your channel !
Ps : I get that you're now living in Switzerland !
So : Grüsse aus dem kanton Jura !
Thanks! Really glad to hear!
Jawohl 🤟😎.
Woah just what I was looking for, thank you!!!
Glad to hear! You’re welcome 😎🙏.
Great content, thanks! The HM2 track sounds best (as in trüe) alone. Dismember was a big favorite back then.
Thanks JB! 👌
I'll never sell my -86 HM-2 pedal. Great video as always.
👌👍. Thanks!
Tone sounds great! Man that HM2 pedal is mean and nasty! When both amps combined sounds so thick and full. Nice job! 👍
Thanks!
It is indeed 😎💪.
Kerranki joku tajus näyttää ton vire meets kielisettijutun näissä videoissa. Vidu hyvä,Euge!!! Terveisin Muhju!!!
Näin O! 😎🕺Tänks Helbert!
This video has aged like fine wine. Always knew about the HM2, didn’t know about the DS1 blend.
Thanks man!
Your videos are second to none man, I love em!
Oh thanks Stevie! Really glad to hear!
They rec 3 tracks. 2 with hm2 (L/R) and 1 center with ds1. They also used gibson sg and emg too
Wasn’t there but apparently you were so thanks 🤟😎.
The Heavy Metal pedal was my first pedal as well back in the day. Around 1986/1987. Still have it to this day.
A Classic 🤘💪.
I thought the secret was the metal zone through a Peavy rage amp lol. Nailed the tone man sounds good🤘🏻
I don’t think MT was even released back then so yeah it’s the HM-2😎.
Thanks!
If i remember correctly metal zone and hm-2 together was the "at the gates recepie" (it was released in 91 or 92 i think, but not sure)
It's wonderful how two fully disgusting sounds (on their own) can creat a so cool sound in the mix.
@@krisania96 I have heard the at the gates stuff was indeed a metal zone and hm-2 together. Possibly the HM2 boosting the metal zone.I think thatd make some sense bc the metal zone has a flexible EQ which can sort of 'mix' the tone before sending to the amp. And then I dont remember what the amp was, but the cab was a homemade 210 I believe.
EV nailing it again. Nasty sounds :)
Thanks man! 😊
YEAH THAT'S BADASS. great job
Thanks!
I didn't really like the way either pedal sounded by itself, but all together in the mix it was crushing! Awesome video, loved the song you wrote too! 🤘🤘
Yeah many times great sounds are accomplished that way. Some sounds aren’t very impressive on their own but when combined and in the mix they sometimes turn out to be great and groundbreaking 💪😎.
Awesome
That sounds dead on. Killer video.
Thanks!
This is the greatest thing to see first in the morning!
Good! 😎
Since you showed us your modded DS-1, you should definitely check out the JCM800 mod version of that pedal if you haven't already. Very inexpensive and easy to have done. But it gives that pedal A LOT of balls when put in front of an amp!
Oh I wasn’t aware of that but I haven’t really used DS-1. It was actually a gift from one Finnish guitarist and this was actually the first time I used the pedal 😎.
Killer video mate!
I have a 1984 HM-2, Oliver HM-20, tc electronics eyemaster and even built my own clone.
Just need to get a Marshall jcm 800
Thanks Dag!
Mielenkiintonen tausta legendaariseen pörinäsoundiin. On kyllä kaksi kuningaspedaalia 👌🏻
Kyllä 🤟😎.
Ultra niceee!
Thanks! But in this case I’d prefer ultra brutal a bit more 😊.
Very interesting friend, your explanation was great, that great and classic tone stimulates me to play deth metal, I think that any riff sounds on the left track with that gear, I hope there will be heaven and I have an HM 2 to play.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
Such a nice sound and nice video. Much less adds than Jake E Lee vids. Kohles channel is also great, he's speaker and cabinet experiments are intresting to watch.
Thanks Peetu!
Indeed 👌.
very nice playing
Thanks!
Great video dude! Awesome tones and great playing too. The only thing missing from the guitar tone is Uffe Cederlund! haha. Legend has it that Entombed used an MIT HM2. Source: Orvar Safstrom apparently now owns the very pedal that was used to record LHP. There's a great interview with Orvar somewhere here on CZcams. (edited for grammar)
Thanks Andy!
With this type of sound I don’t think it makes a lot of difference where the pedal was made 😁.
@@EugeValovirta230V 10000000% true haha. I just thought it was an interesting tidbit. I especially dig how you put the DS1 in there. Killer.
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MiT is correct
How do you tehdä that From Beyond guitar tone by Massacre?
I only have the pink one and the audiority plugin, both good options but I’m patiently waiting for the Waza version, just for the hype...
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Amazing bro!!!! 🤘🏻❤️
Thanks C!
You are wellcome E!!!
Thanks for the vid Euge!
Could you maybe do a comparison of the 5150 vs 6505 perhaps? I'm toying with buying a 6505, as it's apparently an original 5150 re-issue, but Peavey couldnt use the 5150 name :)
You’re welcome! ☺️
I don’t have a 6505 but if I get my hands on one then for sure 👌.
Yeah they’re basically same. At least the 6505s when they were still made in the USA.
@@EugeValovirta230V Thanks dude :D
Euge you should start a swedish death metal band!
Maybe one day! 🤘😎
The boss katana pc program added the hm2 pedal. I used it and tried it with the brown channel and it made my amp go insane and made a high pitch sound and it froze so I had to turn it off and on. That's how metal the hm2 pedal is.
Yeah it’s awesome if one wants something a bit different 😎. Just used it on a Finnish metal band’s album I’m producing but just to give some extra nastyness / chainsaw to some riffs along with the main rhythm tone (5150 & Mesa MKIIC+ 👌.
Great sound \m/
Thanks! 🤘
Hi!! greetings from Chile!!!!
Hello Chile! 🤘
So much good dm in chile! If I remember correctly, burning coffin records got some decent bands
Did I get that right? Do you have nothing on the master out channel as well? Not even a limiter or something?
You got that right 👌😎. Sometimes I have Softube’s Drawmer S73 plugin on the master out channel just to widen the mix a bit if I feel so but that’s the only thing.
Chainsaw groove!!!!
Interesting. I once read that Grave didn't bother with the HM2 at all! Just a DS1 and a Fender Bassman.
Could very well be. The DS1 fully cranked has almost the same sounding eq curve as an HM2
Yeah they maybe did that for playing Live...
one of the most barbaric , brutal guitar tones i ever herd !! . Could you possibly recommend a way i could do this with the same pedals but with a specific amp sim in a daw ? thank you
Reminds me of Grave-Soulless sound. :)
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Grave does not use HM2 but they do use the DS1
Did you record two performance or one?
I think I did four.
Have you ever thought about or tried to use HM-2 little bit in a way people use a Tubescreamer (and its clones)? Like just spicing (or kicking) up the sound of 5150, Marshall, Rectifier, etc.?
I mean, the way you use it in the mix with 4 guitar tracks is great and so is the way In Flames did it back in the day on their albums, but what I have in mind is getting just a little bit of that swedish tone into a single guitar track/signal. Like maybe lower the level knob or the dist. knob (not getting them full on). Would that work, or is just nonsense? I don't own the HM-2 myself, so excuse my question ;)
Yeah but it doesn’t really work like with overdrives. HM-2 is one of a kind and the only usable settings I’ve found is all maxed and even then it sounds like s%#t but in a good way 😁.
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks :)
Actually a lot of modern swedish death bands roll back the gain knob on the Hm2 all the way and use the amp for the gain.
This almost makes it a fuzz pedal but it does boost it a little bit with the level and eq, You can do this with the ds1 too i have tried both.
This gives it a tighter sound while keeping the crushing tone
Hey Euge ! Great Video today!
I have a question, how you create a modern and evil melodic death metal tone ? I have a lot of problems in my Bias FX 2, maybe you know a way that it sounds not so "happy" haha!
Thanks!
Thanks!
It's mostly about the notes you play and how you play those ;-). But in general lots of highs & presence to make it in your face and less gain than most people think. It might sound quite "interesting" alone but usually fits in the mix like a glove \m/.
@@EugeValovirta230V haha , yeah i play the typical Minorthings and harmonic minor but it sounds really strange. But thank you, i will check it out later !
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Please make a video with the 80s hard rock sound !!!!!!
Thanks for the suggestion! It’s coming 👌😉.
Did they use a metal zone effect by boss?
I think I went through the pedals in the video 😉.
Cool. Hey, what are your thoughts on the Eyemaster pedal?
Thanks 🤘. I haven’t tried that but it should do the job. But obviously real deal is always a real deal 😎.
Have you tried using the HM-2 as a boost pedal infront of the DS-1? Is there a way of not having to use 2 heads?
Yeah. It’s a different tone then, very ”original” but sometimes usable.
YOU COULD JUST GET THE PEAVEY AMP HE MENTIONS FROM THE ARTICLE.
Well well... as an old guy, who lived the golden era of death metal and enjoyed so much entombed, dismember and some others, after what i' ve seen heare, what i suspected all my life is confirmed: i was much more in mood with american bands, like Morbid Angel and, above all, english metal like Carcass, just because, in my noob ears (and now professional) the excess of bright was something anoyng, even compreensible musical phrases and tone. The adjustment presented heare, increasing low frequencies (even in mid ones), to me is the best way to listen this tone selection and in my opinion, those e(ye)ars would be so much superior in aesthetics - once the pourpose was so different of black metal, for instance, wich had no one compromising with musical business - than was. If the compromising with total violence or paradigm break was the goal as norwegian black metal, swedish death should appart from blues, hardcore and classical music, some genres embraced by entombed and dismember to complete their violent aesthethic, but, once denied this posture (because swedishs are soooo musical), excessive violence in a tone, who express tradicional music, always was more a problem to my eyes and ears than a new way of art. Anyway, nobody asks to me about it so... Well done E.V., to me, you fixed a long term musical problem of swedish death metal, contribuing for the genre with this tone selection. Great!
Thanks man! And thanks for the detailed & analytical answer 👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V u know when u think in loud? Just happen heare lol u are welcome, thank YOU 👍
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Not gonna lie, that sounds pretty bad ass honestly
Thanks!
@@EugeValovirta230V Btw, what is your workflow when making these demos? Do you start with a riff idea and arrange the drums around that or do you start with drums?
Both 😎👍
What are the amp settings?
Can’t remember / no idea 😎. I don’t really pay attention to where the knobs are but just use my ears to dial amps until I get what I like 👌.
Was there pics of the amps on the video? If there was then those were the settings I had on that day.
Got an old as hell '84 Japanese for £60 about 10 years ago, bought some DS2 knobs to complete the look, I'll never part with it. Ever.
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:O Wow, that fat tube sound!!.
You mean HM-2 sound 😎. The main amp they used back in the day was a Peavey solid state combo 😊🤟.
@@EugeValovirta230V I mean the way your tone was fatter with your tube amps, compared to their Solid State tones. You still had the tone but with more body.🤘😎😁
Ah I see! 😎 Thanks man! 🙏☺️
Awesome video!
I read that entombed used the hm2 on Left and right only and the ds1 alone in the center channel.
Also I always wondered how did they mix the album, the song Left Hand Path at the minute 3.28 is really weird with the rhythm guitar that appears to be cut off abruptly by the lead one and reappearing when lead guitar stops
Could be but this was just my interpretation.
That is very common to cut out rhythm guitar when the solo happens. I do that all the time on my videos if I have more guitars recorded than the one I recorded while I filmed myself. Pantera has that also on many of their songs and many many other albums & bands do that too ;-).
@@EugeValovirta230V hahah ok, what I found weird is that the rhythm is mute only when there is the lead one, in the fractions of seconds where lead is silent there is the rhythm guitar. I can't explain how they did that with tape recordings
Mixers have faders so like you do it live: fader down: no sound, fader up: sound 👌😎. And they have also mute - button.
The most easiest & obvious way though is just not play / record the rhythm guitars on solo parts 😁.
In the song 'Left Hand path' It is actually the bass guitar (seemingly boosted through the guitar rig for effect)
that comes in at 3:28, and does a line. Panned right in the middle to get that weird effect. Then all instruments are coming in just thereafter.
Euge, you made the sweetest Glögg for my ears, thanks for the great tutorial! Sköl!🫕
Happy to hear that!
Meanwhile there was an add telling him how to get finner, but he doesn't need that and can't use it! He was born chuncky and he will always be CHUNCKY!
😁😁😁
this is a stupid question but i'm not sure so i'm gonna ask anyway: did you quad track the guitars or just copied the same take for the hm2 and the ds1?
Not at all. I quad tracked them. If you just copy them it sound just louder and really weird 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V damn, those tracks matched perfectly, you are a machine
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Terveisia Canadasta!
Terveisiä Sveitsistä! 🤟😎
Fuck yeah \m/
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standard B tuning? did I hear that right? not D?
Yeah standard B.
So you put the DS1 in front of the HM2?
Did I say / show that in the video? My bad if I did but they’re on separate tracks.
@@EugeValovirta230V Nope U didn't
I checked out the video and I mention & show quite a few times that the HM-2 goes into the Peavey amp and the DS-1 into the Marshall amp and even had pics of the pedal that was on any given time and did a screen rec of the session where you can see everything so I’m not sure how to present it more clearly 😁.
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Löysit sit käyttöä boss ds 1. ite en saanut siitä mitään järkevää soundia irti
No joo, mutta en oikein muuten ku tähän videoon 😎👍.
This time Pepita can go at a slower pace :)
Indeed 🕺😊.
Hello mr. "El Guevara" as the subtitling states....
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KLÄNKI
Indeed! 😁
@@EugeValovirta230V Mutta hyvä video! Omaki bändi pöristelee ruotsidödistä niin pitääpä testata tota yhdistelmää seuraavissa sessioissa!
No ni! 💪🤘🔥