Funny thing is, George Lucas actually made the lightside ending of the first game canon for a while. It wasnt until Disney bought the rights that Starkiller was sent to Legends continuity.
There were levels of canon in legends, G T C S and N. G refers to stuff made by Lucas himself so the original 6 movies, T refers to the clone wars TV show, C refers to the main EU materiel ie. the novels and comics made after 1991, S is comics made prior to 1991, N is non-canon. Games were a little special, story wise they were considered C canon but gameplay wise were often considered non-canon due to some of the ridiculous feats the protag can perform. The novelization gives a better idea of what would be considered canon, at least in terms of Galen Marek's powers.
@@sentientmango3259You said this in a way like your opinion holds any value. Like you're free to think that and many agree but you said it in a way like it holds actual weight.
It really is a shame that star killer isn’t canon, since I really like the idea that Vader unintentionally caused the creation of the rebellion through his apprentice.🐱
He may not be canon to Disney, but he is canon to Legends, which I personally prefer. The thing is, the game is secondary to the novelization in terms of canonicity, so his powers are significantly toned down.
@@EmperorsWrath Honestly fair. Disney have shown time and time again that they're absolutely terrible at writing stories for the Star Wars universe, so with its legacy in mind they absolutely shouldn't be writing it lol.
It's funny how overpowered people rhink Starkiller is but when compared to the Legends Novels and comics he goes from ridiculously powerful to "okay he's really good but it makes some sense since he is the child of two Jedi Knights". Meanwhile we got some of the most well trained and Force Sensitive top tiers like Anakin, Luke, Yoda, Sidious, Revan, and so on. Plus General Grievous survived a planetary bombardment that split the crust open by just being a cyborg.
7:22 In a fight between Starkiller and a group of Ewoks armed with slingshots, Starkiller would obviously win but it will be hell for him. Every time he gets hit, he tumbles to the floor and takes forever to get up. He'll fry them with lightning eventually, but it would be so frustrating, he'd turn to the dark side and go on a rampage that surpasses Anakin's encounter with the Tuskens in Ep 2
Personally, I find the Wii version of the Force Unleashed 2 better than the Xbox version, as weird as that sounds. This is because of a couple factors like not having everything thrown at you in the first level with examples being that the Carbonite/fire-shooting robots only appearing on and after the second level. And abilities like mind trick, for example, which is unlocked on the third level with a cutscene unlike in the xbox version which just has a Stormtrooper jump through a window on the first level.
I've never seen someone suck so much at following the Force Unleashed instructions. It's really obvious what the game wants you to do and Zanny goes "no. the hard way".
That Vader bossfight was so infuriating back in childhood, it was legit impossible to break out of QTE force grabs during the second phase. Seems that they decided to exclude Force Unleashed from cannon after the 2nd game, because it devalues the strength of Darth Vader, which is why you can't canonically defeat him in Jedi: Fallen Order and Survivor. Makes sense, he is THE trademark villain of the series, but still.
To be honest, Jedi series are just more grounded but this one is especially fun cause you have so many options to deal with enemies. Throw em around let them catch one another and throw into group of people. Used to play it every day and farm all things in it. Best star wars game of my childhood.
PlayStation for me. I always thought their stunts in the cutscenes were much cooler than the ps3 ones. Like how Vader tears down Kento’s tree house before fighting him in the first level
@@EmperorsWrath there is no such rule for novels being higher in canonicity than games, although I gotta say gameplay mechanics are in S-canon, while the overall story of the game is in C-canon.
@@russianoverkill3715 @russianoverkill3715 That's what I meant to say, the game unique because it is secondary to the novel, not the overall tier system.
I remember when Rogue one was announced and my brother told me it was a movie about how the Rebellion was formed. I was so hype because I thought it was gonna be a movie adaptation of this. (I was like 8 or 9) and my brothers looked at me like the "how do we tell him?" Spongebob meme.
My favorite thing about when studios adapt games into movies is how accurate they always are to the source material and how they never stray from it whatsoever. Like Halo. I just know that if Disney ever adapted this story they wouldn’t change a single detail about anything. They’re so good about staying true to the source material. I mean just look at how well they adapted Thrawn. I mean we all know nobody likes Starkiller for his character or Sam wittwers performance bringing him to life, or how a small insignificant tool can break away from the system and become a force for good. We only enjoy his character because he yeets Ben Kenobi into an engine and makes Han Solo shoot his best friend. Details that absolutely cannot be changed so help me God Filoni
I definitely agree with Zaniel, Force Unleashed isn't as good overall as Survivor, but the combat moves and the possible combos that are doable with them are definitely better to a certain degree.
This game aged a lot better than the original Kotor😂 Granted Kotor came out in the very early 00s and Unleashed came out in 08 so it's not as old. I just started my first Kotor playthrough and it's awesome so far, just gotta get used to that wonky early 00s combat😂
7:06 The stun times in this game are insane, he takes so long to get off the floor and can get stun looped especially in the corner. It’s such a shame because the game’s so good
And that's one thing I'll never get about the Jedi, how can have the strongest sith alive and the galactic Emperor at your mercy and you just don't kill them? No wonder the Jedi went extinct..
Honestly I would love it if they where to reboot the force unleashed to be more canon compliant, Like a game that really plays on the Vader’s SECRET apprentice angle (because the games utterly failed to convey it starkiller was a secret to nobody) and maybe have it be more stealth based and similar to Kal Kestis games when it comes to combat,
No. Starkiller doesn't work with Disney's canon. And the games are perfect as is. They need to be remade 1:1 and given a third game. Don't ruin them with ideas like your's.
Looked like it was a phase where they wanted you to throw something at Vader, the problem was Zanny kept trying to land next to him so he kept getting picked up.
Zanny said he was only on his 4th playthrough of elden ring and I realized I have a problem... I'm on journey 11 on my main character and have 2 other randoms for new builds at journey 3 and 6 respectively Now I'm playing on my new gen console and started all the way over for the dlc
I like the psp version more because you get to play movie scenes like obi wan vs Anakin. and luke vs vader also gameplay in the main story is different
Fun fact. Starkiller and Sidous in this game have the same voice actor
Yup. Sam insisted on doing both when LucasArts had somebody else in mind. And he does a freakishly accurate voicing of Palpatine.
I think he even still occasionally voices the Emperor
@@battedbook5811he did in rebels I believe
Just couldn't skip on an opportunity for evil cackling, I guess.
@@battedbook5811 yeah he played him in The newest lego star wars game
Funny thing is, George Lucas actually made the lightside ending of the first game canon for a while. It wasnt until Disney bought the rights that Starkiller was sent to Legends continuity.
George Lucas is such a fuckin G for that. He knows a Star Wars story when he sees one!
There were levels of canon in legends, G T C S and N. G refers to stuff made by Lucas himself so the original 6 movies, T refers to the clone wars TV show, C refers to the main EU materiel ie. the novels and comics made after 1991, S is comics made prior to 1991, N is non-canon. Games were a little special, story wise they were considered C canon but gameplay wise were often considered non-canon due to some of the ridiculous feats the protag can perform. The novelization gives a better idea of what would be considered canon, at least in terms of Galen Marek's powers.
@@Dcll8451I mean it’s almost like he created the series
Ironically, I don't consider anything in the disney era to be canon. Except maybe Rogue One. Maybe.
@@sentientmango3259You said this in a way like your opinion holds any value. Like you're free to think that and many agree but you said it in a way like it holds actual weight.
“I will dodge like my father before me” (dies)
He died like his father before him, too; by failing dodging
zanny is too crazy to be canon
It really is a shame that star killer isn’t canon, since I really like the idea that Vader unintentionally caused the creation of the rebellion through his apprentice.🐱
He may not be canon to Disney, but he is canon to Legends, which I personally prefer. The thing is, the game is secondary to the novelization in terms of canonicity, so his powers are significantly toned down.
He got robbed of a great legacy, either killed Darth vader, or Started the Rebellion.
@@EmperorsWrath Honestly fair. Disney have shown time and time again that they're absolutely terrible at writing stories for the Star Wars universe, so with its legacy in mind they absolutely shouldn't be writing it lol.
Always liked that. Anakin was still following the prophecy of the Chosen One even at his most evil.
So fun fact Force Unleashed came out the same year as the clone wars movie so I think it’s safe to assume Ahsoka was based off starkiller but less OP
Happy to help with the Dark Saber Crystal man!
Holy shit Ulysses, what about the bear and bull?
Holy s*** Ulysses, what about the bear and bull?
“can I sith punt the emperor” will forever be an iconic quote
It's funny how overpowered people rhink Starkiller is but when compared to the Legends Novels and comics he goes from ridiculously powerful to "okay he's really good but it makes some sense since he is the child of two Jedi Knights".
Meanwhile we got some of the most well trained and Force Sensitive top tiers like Anakin, Luke, Yoda, Sidious, Revan, and so on. Plus General Grievous survived a planetary bombardment that split the crust open by just being a cyborg.
if you strike down the emperor in anger you go to the darkside... so... what if in that moment i'm calm and at peace instead?
Just so you know Zanny, the Jedi Temple DLC level has a Darth Maul skin
7:22 In a fight between Starkiller and a group of Ewoks armed with slingshots, Starkiller would obviously win but it will be hell for him. Every time he gets hit, he tumbles to the floor and takes forever to get up. He'll fry them with lightning eventually, but it would be so frustrating, he'd turn to the dark side and go on a rampage that surpasses Anakin's encounter with the Tuskens in Ep 2
If you played The Force Unleashed 2's Endor DLC you'd know that this isn't how it goes at all.
Funny you say that. Starkiller massacres the Ewoks in TFU2's DLC.
Legend States Starkiller is still falling after being hit by that Deathstar Beam
3:27
Damn, I remember how much fun I had when I was a kid and just tossing stormtroopers in the Death Star laser and they actually dying
Zanny: It’s no longer canon because of Disney.
Everyone else: IT IS CANON TO ME!
Dude the DLC missions are legit awesome you should play them
Facts they were so much fun
The DLCs are 100% worth it. They're like amazing fan fiction after the dark side ending. They're some of the best DLCs ever made.
5:23 I always forget how amazing of a singer zanny is, then randomly get reminded like this lmaoo
Zanny: "We don't talk about 1"
Also Zanny: Using force unleashed 2 meme
Personally, I find the Wii version of the Force Unleashed 2 better than the Xbox version, as weird as that sounds.
This is because of a couple factors like not having everything thrown at you in the first level with examples being that the Carbonite/fire-shooting robots only appearing on and after the second level.
And abilities like mind trick, for example, which is unlocked on the third level with a cutscene unlike in the xbox version which just has a Stormtrooper jump through a window on the first level.
Finally somebody else!!! btw same bro also find it better
8:05 he fell SO long
he fell for like 10 seconds
I've never seen someone suck so much at following the Force Unleashed instructions. It's really obvious what the game wants you to do and Zanny goes "no. the hard way".
He's really bad at this game, but hey, at least he's having fun. That's all that matters.
You can unleash your force on me any day zan man
same
D9nestic violince
WTF is this a Stimpee video?
YOU HAVE NO MAN'S SKY BUT DIDNT POST A VIDEO ON IT??? WE NEED A NO MAN'S SKY VID ZANNY ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU PLAYED STARFIELD
The dlc skins are kinda cool, they have Obi Wan and Anakin from ROTS and using Anakin with a red light saber and throwing lightings it's so satisfying
The first section of that final level literally just drops you into hell.
My man, thank you so much for beating my all-time favorite Star Wars game on this channel. ZanClan for life!
This was a pleasant trip down memory lane, thanks Zanny and Yeti
That Vader bossfight was so infuriating back in childhood, it was legit impossible to break out of QTE force grabs during the second phase.
Seems that they decided to exclude Force Unleashed from cannon after the 2nd game, because it devalues the strength of Darth Vader, which is why you can't canonically defeat him in Jedi: Fallen Order and Survivor.
Makes sense, he is THE trademark villain of the series, but still.
Nah, it's because disney is shit, as usual
To be honest, Jedi series are just more grounded but this one is especially fun cause you have so many options to deal with enemies. Throw em around let them catch one another and throw into group of people. Used to play it every day and farm all things in it. Best star wars game of my childhood.
I forgot how hilarious the ragdoll physics were in this game
Playthrough 5 of elden ring is insane. I would struggle to find time for one playthrough if I had it.
My childhood puppy passed away yesterday..thank you for being you Zanny..your helping comfort me Zan the man..❤️💞
Anyone else play the Wii version as a kid and the lightening was super OP
Real quick tho who else played this game on the Wii cause I did and rmbr it being the most fun thing for me as a kid
I did. It honestly made more of a fan of star wars than the movies did. Star killer was such a cool character and made me a fan of Sam witwer.
PlayStation for me. I always thought their stunts in the cutscenes were much cooler than the ps3 ones. Like how Vader tears down Kento’s tree house before fighting him in the first level
Vader spaming the force grab was so hilarious like a toddler being mauled by a pitbull named cherry blossom
Lets goo new video zanny still best youtuber
This game always felt to me like an anime version of Star Wars
Epic when Starkiller fights the emperor, its Sam Witwer vs Sam Witwer
Day 1 of asking Zanny to do Star Wars Force Unleashed DLC missions.
all the dlc is included in the steam version for like $8, you can play as clone wars armor kenobi and quigon, theres a ton of skins
13:07 all i imagine is silver from sonic 06 “ITS NO USE!!”
LETS FUCKING GO ZANNY’S PLAYING THE BEST STAR WARS GAME AGAIN
The game director of Fallen Order and Survivor directed God of War 3
Nice to see ya finally finish the game and get the dark saber crystal.
The Force Unleashed was canon before Disney.
True, although technically it was the novelization's version of TFU that was canon over the game.
@@EmperorsWrath there is no such rule for novels being higher in canonicity than games, although I gotta say gameplay mechanics are in S-canon, while the overall story of the game is in C-canon.
@@russianoverkill3715 @russianoverkill3715 That's what I meant to say, the game unique because it is secondary to the novel, not the overall tier system.
Ah, a threezanny vid on my day off, as was foretold
Day 178 of asking Zanny to do uncharted series:
Unsharted
Yes
Unsharted is wild ashl😂
Bro is determined for someone to play a certain game
the grind never stops
YESSS another star battle video
Time for the DLC missions
I remember when Rogue one was announced and my brother told me it was a movie about how the Rebellion was formed. I was so hype because I thought it was gonna be a movie adaptation of this. (I was like 8 or 9) and my brothers looked at me like the "how do we tell him?" Spongebob meme.
I found it a nice surprise when I found out they got the guy from Chad Vader to voice Darth Vader officially
Idk how Zanny played this entire game without knowing there's recovery
Fun fact: the darksaber showed up in this game in 2008 while the second season of clone wars was made before the season released in 2009
17:48 Kylo Ren truly is Leia's son copying Bail Organa's lines
Yellow paint gaming was made for zanny skills issues
Havent finished the video yet, but any thoughts on playing and uploading the 2nd force unleashed game?
Day 2 of asking Zanny to do Star Wars Force Unleashed DLC Missions
And people have the gall to match up starkiller and cal like kestis has a chance
Fun Fact: Death Vader is actually Bodes father
nah its defo canon
My favorite thing about when studios adapt games into movies is how accurate they always are to the source material and how they never stray from it whatsoever. Like Halo. I just know that if Disney ever adapted this story they wouldn’t change a single detail about anything. They’re so good about staying true to the source material. I mean just look at how well they adapted Thrawn. I mean we all know nobody likes Starkiller for his character or Sam wittwers performance bringing him to life, or how a small insignificant tool can break away from the system and become a force for good. We only enjoy his character because he yeets Ben Kenobi into an engine and makes Han Solo shoot his best friend. Details that absolutely cannot be changed so help me God Filoni
Day 1 of asking zanny to mail me a photo album of his doggos
Zanny, use the most overpowered ability! Force repulse! or as I like to call it "Don't touch me!"
You cut out «andthenyouwilldie», Zanny? A man of your talents?
Would love to see zanny play Jedi Outcast.
As many views as Zanny gets on all three of his channels...No way this man broke XD
10:28 bro gave me a dagan flashback
Hey zan-man, the combo'ing you want is very much in DMC 4 and 5. Try them. The combos go crazy in those games.
4 is fun and more anime than the others, 5 is a masterpiece and the magnum opus of the series. Take your pick.
I definitely agree with Zaniel, Force Unleashed isn't as good overall as Survivor, but the combat moves and the possible combos that are doable with them are definitely better to a certain degree.
The Vader fight got me crying. xD
I see that BG3! Video when cause I want it now! 😂
he said he thinks hes got enough footage but hasnt edited it yet
Emperor is also voiced by Sam Witwer
Zanny would probably like the darksiders series.
This game aged a lot better than the original Kotor😂 Granted Kotor came out in the very early 00s and Unleashed came out in 08 so it's not as old. I just started my first Kotor playthrough and it's awesome so far, just gotta get used to that wonky early 00s combat😂
In palpatine bossfight: RENNALA (DEROGATORY)
7:06 The stun times in this game are insane, he takes so long to get off the floor and can get stun looped especially in the corner. It’s such a shame because the game’s so good
Zanny watch final shape announcement bungie is cooking!
All i remember from this game is playing as the guy from monkey island.
Petition for Zanny to come back, replay the mission, kill Vader and do the dlc
4:43 ya know what my mind also jumped to ryse son of rome so maybe zanny was onto something
I am balling with the force vader
Maybe someday he'll figure out you can immediately recover when you get knocked down, instead of lying on the ground. Oh well, that day is not today 😂
Heya Zanny, might you consider a playthrough of Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy at some point?
Did you know after completing the game then you can basically new game plus with cool new amor depending on the ending you choose
Bro I'd *love* to see Zanny do a TFU 2 or KoTOR playthrough.
Zanny missed perfect aprils fool prank by "uploading" Uncharted video but just rickroll
I need zanny to play jedi outcast or jedi academy!
"too crazy to be canon"
Well, not anymore
Sadly😔
Day 1 of asking Zanny to play Cruelty Squad:
Their is a 2nd ending after vader is defeated the legendary sith armor is unlocked
And that's one thing I'll never get about the Jedi, how can have the strongest sith alive and the galactic Emperor at your mercy and you just don't kill them? No wonder the Jedi went extinct..
Honestly I would love it if they where to reboot the force unleashed to be more canon compliant,
Like a game that really plays on the Vader’s SECRET apprentice angle (because the games utterly failed to convey it starkiller was a secret to nobody) and maybe have it be more stealth based and similar to Kal Kestis games when it comes to combat,
No. Starkiller doesn't work with Disney's canon. And the games are perfect as is. They need to be remade 1:1 and given a third game. Don't ruin them with ideas like your's.
that Vader fight looked bugged as hell haahah that never happened to me man, I was allowed to touch the ground thank you
Looked like it was a phase where they wanted you to throw something at Vader, the problem was Zanny kept trying to land next to him so he kept getting picked up.
Zanny makes me goob all ober
Imagine Zanny Red Dead Redemption 2
Darth Sixteen-Wheeler 🤣🤣🤣
i would love a good remake of this game
Zanny said he was only on his 4th playthrough of elden ring and I realized I have a problem... I'm on journey 11 on my main character and have 2 other randoms for new builds at journey 3 and 6 respectively
Now I'm playing on my new gen console and started all the way over for the dlc
PlayStation plus has STTFU Sith edition which includes the dlc
I like the psp version more because you get to play movie scenes like obi wan vs Anakin. and luke vs vader
also gameplay in the main story is different
Force Unleashed 2 or Sith Edition????