You mean to tell me the only LIMITED 5 STAR character is the strongest?? Nah no way. But seriously I got her and shes a ton of fun, and also pretty strong.
Another doom poster, they've been appearing like cockroaches. Nvm even cockroaches would be a dishonor as a label, His a different species in of itself. Absolutely horrendous imagine not letting people enjoy a game cause you didn't like it, it's your opinion. Harmless, but when you're forcing it down into somebody's throat. That doesn't become a harmless opinion anymore, miserable fks. They got nothing better to do and I'm one to say so.
I have pulled Lycaon from the standard and lost the 50/50 to another Lycaon. But the next 10 pull was Ellen. I am now stuck with this team for a long time.
That's the thing about Ice team... They already shred a lot of ice resistance and boost their ice damage anyways, plus frostbite makes enemies take more critical damage
That will always happen with any dps or meta character, so if someone use that logic to not pull, simply will never pull bc at some point the meta will be favored to the current banner characters.
I failed the 50/50 to koleda but locked in and grinded out more poly whatever its called and pulled her and soldier 11 in the same multi s11 came after ellen so now im guaranteed the next rate up of my choice. We sitting pretty in zzz
I have M2 Ellen with sig weapon. Absurdly strong. I also wanted to mention that Sharknami (2nd part EX skill needing 80 energy total) has i-frames on the whole animation I'm pretty sure. And her M2 makes it so you only need 40 energy to cast it instead of 80. I feel like M2 has compete changed her playstyle and personally I would recommend it over the weapon dupes. There is just too much utility (and also damage) in those mindscapes.
@@silvaquick193Funny you should say that because I just commented on another Lycaon video. I feel like someone said only his basic EX skill has immunity and not the charged version. Do you know?
Decided, I actually like this as a mobile game, going to remain f2p on this one and I never do, definitly going to reroll sense they gave out those extra 10 limited pulls and start off with ellen.
I wonder if the calculations made on w-engines is up to date, because what i had seen is that Steel Cushion loses a lot more DPS if not used mainly with back attacks.
What’s league of legends? I don’t know how to interpret his advice. Please help, I have never heard of Gwen or Riven or whatever a Summoners Rift is. Can I even play gacha without knowing? Since every character has a league of legends equivalent am I losing out on my skill potential? Would help a lot to have answers thx.
Nah be just compared with aesthetics and weapons, some. Gwen is a character that attacks with big ass scissors, pretty much the only similarity plus hwr having a similar type od dahs attack.
I got her on my first 10 pull. Along with pulling Lycaon and Soldier 11 in the beginner 50. So I went and got her weapon too and now I'm pretty much set.
Help i'm lycaon/koledaless and got neko M1 now (got grace first and neko is benched :cc) any guides? got ellen with her signature but only got anby for both grace and ellen teams
you could run grace/anton/anby for a viable shock team, but your main team could be ellen/soukaku/nicole soukaku and nicole can synergize decently well since nicole's core passive offers def shred, and soukaku directly buffs atk/ice dmg, and ice res (at M4). eventually when zhu yuan comes out you can pull for her to make another decent second team with zhu yuan/nicole/nekomiya(flex) for a dual dps team. nicole could be switched with any since it could be better to run a daze unit for more consistent stuns only issue I see is that the 1.0 limited units looks like they're very on-field heavy, especially with how their kits work. so having a dual dps could be detrimental if you don't know how to run the orientation
Zhu Yuan will likely be the only Ether dps for a while, so she has a lot of inherent value Also Miyabi is coming in 1.3, and she's Ice dps, a direct competition to Ellen, she'll very likely powercreep her
@@wdeltag there are so many free pulls at the start that the person I get I end up using for awhile until next five star which for a lot of time as f2p is awhile. So I’d rather wait a bit and get a character that might be more relevant for longer. And because she’s gonna be ether that might make her a bit more future proof
Exactly is that what happened to me, I lost 50/50 in 80 pull. I decided to not pull more for Ellen, until my mono electro/shock team can't afford more flights, but if I can afford until the second half, I will pull for Zhu Yuen. There's nothing that the bro power can't do, Anton will carry me until the end of the world
@@restrouk2040 I'll probably wait until 1.1/1.2 to see if there are any characters I like. I also don't have Lykaon yet, so I might get Ellen in a rerun.
how mihoyo games are, rather just get character and their weapon, most cases going for copies is mistake especially in 1.0 content, units that will come in later months and year will surpass these units
Agree with you for the most part, but Rina M1 is just great - adds 5.5s to her PEN shred after she leaves the field. Allows for bigger rotations that scale well with more powerful DPS that come out. Luckily she's on standard so M1 is possible any time!
Tbh, I think that's the first case where the first banner is not completely bad. HSR 1st banner was terrible, and Genshin one was actually fine till they went all the way to nerf Venti bcs he was broken.
All my luck my luck from HSR went to fucking ZZZ. Randomly did one 10 pull and got her. Proceeded to make 1 pull on her weapon and got it too with like 10/15 pity. What the fuck she's so good
Guess I got no choice but to watch this now lol. My very first 10 pull in ZZZ, they decided to bless me with 2 Ellens lol 😅 I didn't even want her lol.... waiting on Miyabi banner. It always be the fuck it 10 pulls... sheesh 😅 Same thing with wuwa and them giving me Yinlin lol.
Very far from that. HSR Seele sucks. Even in release we could see that it was pretty bad. Her kit was too situational, and it was obvious she wasn't going to last, even worse when a 4*, QQ was basically performing way better than her and still does to this day. Ellen is straight dps no caveats, fun to play. Even the free units are fun and strong, nothing feels bad. The main issue will be having enough elements and later on, actually surviving, so skills will matter more than raw power, just like how Genshin started.
First 10 pull got Ellen Next 20 pulls got Koleda I want Soukaku so another 20 pulls and got another Ellen I try the weapon banner First 20 pulls got her weapon I'm scarred I have never had such good luck
How does her rotation feel "smoother" with M1. It only reduces the amount of dash attacks I have to do. It's hard enough to spend all 6 stacks in a single burst window anyway Chain skill hit skill hit skill hit hit hit hit (consumes 6 stats) and that's pretty much all the time you have anyway. or for more dps but less overall damage Chain Skill/Skill Hit Skill hit hit hit hit (consumes 5 stacks) So before you start your daze stuff again (which you want with this character) you just do 1 dashattack before you switch her out and perhaps a quick assist dash attack. Back to 6 stacks again.
Bcs you are not taking in the fact that every dodge will now give extra stacks so you won't waste time roaming and doing the scissor. Same applies to assist swap with the instant scissor, you simply don't care about having to manage stacks, she has more onfield dps time and more room to burst during boss stun/daze. The fact that I don't need to do all the management you are doing makes it, well you guessed it, smoother.
@@Raikos100 That's not correct though. You don't gather stacks during stun/daze, you are already set with 6 stacks before you get to that (and it takes like 2s longer at the beginning of the fight) If you do it differently (during stun) you are just wasting time... and as mentioned, you don't have time to even spend 6 stacks if you play properly because you hopefully weave skills in to get Basic3 going and going. There is hardly any difference in terms of how you play, if you use a stunner character - that is. Perhaps I should clarify. But this video quite obviously takes a stunner in consideration.
![[1.1] Investigating Ether and the "Sacrifice" - A Zenless Zone Zero Theory](/img/n.gif)
Ellen's roaming playstyle is actually really fun once you get used to it. She actually makes other attackers feel sluggish.
You mean to tell me the only LIMITED 5 STAR character is the strongest?? Nah no way.
But seriously I got her and shes a ton of fun, and also pretty strong.
Not as strong as my auto clicker.
@@kingsimba9513 Haha funni🙂
@kingsimba9513 Oof, I should really install one for this game
Another doom poster, they've been appearing like cockroaches. Nvm even cockroaches would be a dishonor as a label, His a different species in of itself.
Absolutely horrendous imagine not letting people enjoy a game cause you didn't like it, it's your opinion. Harmless, but when you're forcing it down into somebody's throat.
That doesn't become a harmless opinion anymore, miserable fks. They got nothing better to do and I'm one to say so.
bro, wait for v1.3, seele gonna get powercrept by lunae... wait wrong game
I have pulled Lycaon from the standard and lost the 50/50 to another Lycaon. But the next 10 pull was Ellen. I am now stuck with this team for a long time.
Well that was fate my dude, cant see any other explanation.
cant really be mad. freeze comp is gonna be strong for a while, and yours just got even stronger
Got C6 Soukaku before I got Ellen C2 and afterwards Lycaon Stuck with this team forever
Fr fr @@sritangwongsornram
fated to be
Imagine when they release 2.0 with mostly ice resistant enemies. *wheeze*
That's the thing about Ice team... They already shred a lot of ice resistance and boost their ice damage anyways, plus frostbite makes enemies take more critical damage
That will always happen with any dps or meta character, so if someone use that logic to not pull, simply will never pull bc at some point the meta will be favored to the current banner characters.
Imagine imagining
my experience with jingliu in hsr for real.
45/264, i guess my jingliu build is pretty dog. p2w af. time to burn hoyoverse down.
thats for every element not only ice thats why we need 2 team or different element
High school maid is S tier.
High school teacher maid is UR tier.
cough cough "Grace outfit teacher would" spoiler in story BTW
Kawakami on ZZZ when?
I failed the 50/50 to koleda but locked in and grinded out more poly whatever its called and pulled her and soldier 11 in the same multi s11 came after ellen so now im guaranteed the next rate up of my choice. We sitting pretty in zzz
Lost my 50/50 to Soldier 11, but it was on the first 10 roll so I'll keep going.
Same but I lost it to Rina. Finally got Ellen at around 50ish pity from the free log in pull today. Best of luck to you!
@@kierandyreal9929 ayyy congrats and ty!
I lost to rina but then Ellen came home 3 wishes later then I pulled the shark bangboo!
just got my Ellen today at 85 pity, at least I won my 50/50
@@TheSpeedygonzalaz that’s rough but hey! You got her! She is super cracked!! I got her w-engine so early too!
sorry, discord anomaly is the strongest dps
Say it louder for the ppl in the back
Assault anomaly
over 12k f2p gems in and still no piper. this 4 star is harder to get than ellen. tho i dont have an ellen but wanna save pity for zhuyuan
Overrated, only good on normal mobs, with bosses it’s crap
@@Silverstreamablefor me it's the same. I wanted Lucy, but got no luck😢
I read online recently about Miyabi coming in 1.2 or 1.3 and she is Ice DPS too. Man, the dilemma.
I have M2 Ellen with sig weapon. Absurdly strong. I also wanted to mention that Sharknami (2nd part EX skill needing 80 energy total) has i-frames on the whole animation I'm pretty sure. And her M2 makes it so you only need 40 energy to cast it instead of 80. I feel like M2 has compete changed her playstyle and personally I would recommend it over the weapon dupes. There is just too much utility (and also damage) in those mindscapes.
U know Lycaon ex skill has complete immunity right? M0 too
@@silvaquick193Funny you should say that because I just commented on another Lycaon video. I feel like someone said only his basic EX skill has immunity and not the charged version. Do you know?
@@tringlos-zv6sl both has immunity, also hate to break it to you, but i think every character is immune in ex skill
Is ellen weapon a must have?.
Soukaku + Swing Jazz = Bennett + Noblesse
Would love to see a S11 guide like this, well thought and full of details!
I got her MS1, damn so much quality of life ❤
Decided, I actually like this as a mobile game, going to remain f2p on this one and I never do, definitly going to reroll sense they gave out those extra 10 limited pulls and start off with ellen.
Ellen is on E6, probably something scary)
I see the peculiarity of her in the fact that freezing is something that can help at some point
congrats on 100k pokie
Thank you for the content. Best wishes!
I finally got ellen on my 80th pull ! Sorry grace and my e5 Anton you'll be benched now.
Lost Ellen 50 50 to grace but still happy cuz I have the belabog team
Strongest dps? I didnt said that. THATS STRAWMAN
Are you okay ??
Where's your proof??!
Huh
Is this a tectone hexjuice drama reference
@@Swarloooooos Ltashed drama to be specific 😂
I wonder if the calculations made on w-engines is up to date, because what i had seen is that Steel Cushion loses a lot more DPS if not used mainly with back attacks.
Hey guy did you know Mr pokke is free to play by the way?
Nice! Ellen UWAHH! ❤
at C2 she can 3x that EX cyclone which is broken + shattering enemies.
waiting for Raiden Mei/Ei to release and to get f2p m6
Plugboo the real best char
Shark girls ABOBA
What’s league of legends? I don’t know how to interpret his advice. Please help, I have never heard of Gwen or Riven or whatever a Summoners Rift is. Can I even play gacha without knowing? Since every character has a league of legends equivalent am I losing out on my skill potential? Would help a lot to have answers thx.
Nah be just compared with aesthetics and weapons, some.
Gwen is a character that attacks with big ass scissors, pretty much the only similarity plus hwr having a similar type od dahs attack.
Riven is a character that dashes and attacks after each dash. Summoner rift is just league of legends official mobile version.
Nuclear shark straight out of Chernobyl 🥶🥶☢️☢️☢️
congrats on 100k!!!
he says he will stay F2p, he won't be watch eventually he will cave and spend on banner, lets see he can hold out for Miyabi
Do i use c6 soukaku or c1 rina. With my ellen and lycaon
I got her on my first 10 pull. Along with pulling Lycaon and Soldier 11 in the beginner 50. So I went and got her weapon too and now I'm pretty much set.
Congrats on 100k subs
Bro slow down, i'm actually watching your video in x0.75 speed and it seems to be normal wtf
Good stuff btw
Help i'm lycaon/koledaless and got neko M1 now (got grace first and neko is benched :cc)
any guides?
got ellen with her signature but only got anby for both grace and ellen teams
you could run grace/anton/anby for a viable shock team, but your main team could be ellen/soukaku/nicole
soukaku and nicole can synergize decently well since nicole's core passive offers def shred, and soukaku directly buffs atk/ice dmg, and ice res (at M4). eventually when zhu yuan comes out you can pull for her to make another decent second team with zhu yuan/nicole/nekomiya(flex) for a dual dps team. nicole could be switched with any since it could be better to run a daze unit for more consistent stuns
only issue I see is that the 1.0 limited units looks like they're very on-field heavy, especially with how their kits work. so having a dual dps could be detrimental if you don't know how to run the orientation
The sprint is amazing 🤩
If you're running sig + soukaku, aren't your attack/crit stats super diluted? Why not run pen 2 piece to build on Lycaon + Soukaku M4?
w vid
i lost 50/50 but then still got her after 40 spins and have furry wolf boy
I'm not pulling for her I think. I feel like she will be powercreeped quickly and there's other units that I think I will want more.
Zhu Yuan will likely be the only Ether dps for a while, so she has a lot of inherent value
Also Miyabi is coming in 1.3, and she's Ice dps, a direct competition to Ellen, she'll very likely powercreep her
@@wdeltag flip man 1.3 is like october. I'mm probably just grab zhu yuan since I don't rlly want ellen lol
@@srtiddles3921 Yea, I'm also grabbing Zhu Yuan. Quingyi too
@@wdeltag I just have a gut feeling that Ellen isn’t worth it
@@wdeltag there are so many free pulls at the start that the person I get I end up using for awhile until next five star which for a lot of time as f2p is awhile. So I’d rather wait a bit and get a character that might be more relevant for longer. And because she’s gonna be ether that might make her a bit more future proof
@MrPokke, not related! What's the best battle pass engine do you think is?
I sadly lost 50/50 to Koleda. Not sure if I should keep trying or wait for future characters. Got Grace as well from Standard.
Exactly is that what happened to me, I lost 50/50 in 80 pull. I decided to not pull more for Ellen, until my mono electro/shock team can't afford more flights, but if I can afford until the second half, I will pull for Zhu Yuen.
There's nothing that the bro power can't do, Anton will carry me until the end of the world
@@restrouk2040 I'll probably wait until 1.1/1.2 to see if there are any characters I like. I also don't have Lykaon yet, so I might get Ellen in a rerun.
MIYABI PROPAGANDA RAAAAAAAH EVERYONE SAVE FOR HER 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🗣️🗣️🗣️
The strongest DPS for 3 weeks 💀
The strongest ice dps, for 2 months ;)
they need to release a better ice dps to powercreep her broken ass team
love poki vides when i need him he pops up
Nah, I’d win. Got Ellen and the weapon for 40 pulls 😂
Ayo anyone know the outro track?
Are the engine dps comparisons for the 4stars at S1 or S5?
Brimstone havers eating good rn
GUYS I NEED MORE PULLS. I feel like i barely get any in this game :( im only like 40 pulls in. I fear i might miss out 😫
GET LUCKY THEN
@@Thedoorway123 ☹️
I swear I rolled like 100 limited banner pull from doing quests
what is her skill upgrade order ? Auto atk into swap ? then skill and ulti ?
Saving for Miyabi
She anit coming out anytime soon
@@Thedoorway123even better we miyabi wanters get more time to guarantee copies without whaling
@@Rascalli baizhu 2.0
@@Thedoorway123 I’m not a genshit player, what happened with baizhu?
@Rascalli he was a character from 1.0, but it took 2 years for him to be playable. They did this with ayaka as well as screwlum from hsr
yess
Nekomata guide when
Need another team for shiyu defense
I hope the "powercreep" here is as soft as HSR
pokke can u compare damage sharkboo and bulter bangboo ?
imo sharbrook > butler
@@gryph-jn7bp thx bro, now I use sharkboo
Thank you for the hard work OP.
But
The newest champion with the purpose to make profits is the strongest ? Woah. Unexpected!
Someone plz tell me how do I stop getting zzz recommendations everywhere. Uninstalled the game, keep clicking on hide, still zzz content everywhere...
Is this video 2x speed??? 😂😂😂😂
Guys i think hes f2p
Not f2p enough
how mihoyo games are, rather just get character and their weapon, most cases going for copies is mistake especially in 1.0 content, units that will come in later months and year will surpass these units
Agree with you for the most part, but Rina M1 is just great - adds 5.5s to her PEN shred after she leaves the field. Allows for bigger rotations that scale well with more powerful DPS that come out.
Luckily she's on standard so M1 is possible any time!
Tbh, I think that's the first case where the first banner is not completely bad. HSR 1st banner was terrible, and Genshin one was actually fine till they went all the way to nerf Venti bcs he was broken.
All my luck my luck from HSR went to fucking ZZZ. Randomly did one 10 pull and got her. Proceeded to make 1 pull on her weapon and got it too with like 10/15 pity. What the fuck she's so good
She more like league Sylas
Guess I got no choice but to watch this now lol. My very first 10 pull in ZZZ, they decided to bless me with 2 Ellens lol 😅
I didn't even want her lol.... waiting on Miyabi banner.
It always be the fuck it 10 pulls... sheesh 😅
Same thing with wuwa and them giving me Yinlin lol.
so shes basically seele
How
Very far from that. HSR Seele sucks. Even in release we could see that it was pretty bad. Her kit was too situational, and it was obvious she wasn't going to last, even worse when a 4*, QQ was basically performing way better than her and still does to this day. Ellen is straight dps no caveats, fun to play. Even the free units are fun and strong, nothing feels bad. The main issue will be having enough elements and later on, actually surviving, so skills will matter more than raw power, just like how Genshin started.
How bout grace in Ellen team without lycoan
You can use anby
Ellen and grace don’t pair well just use Anby + ice fish girl with Ellen.
Grace takes too much field time and no stun, mostly anomaly. Use any other stunner like Anby or even Koleda and you will be fine.
Anyone know what that song at the beginning is?
Come as you fonk
First 10 pull got Ellen
Next 20 pulls got Koleda
I want Soukaku so another 20 pulls and got another Ellen
I try the weapon banner
First 20 pulls got her weapon
I'm scarred
I have never had such good luck
Anyone else think you can set up a macro for this game and let the game auto battle
I would love to see that on Pc
how would you perfect assist/dodge with the macro
Well there was a CN player who beat the game with an auto clicker so I'm sure there's a way to go about it.
I tried it yesterday actually it got stuck at the boss enemies. But works barely on the other encounters.
👾
How does her rotation feel "smoother" with M1.
It only reduces the amount of dash attacks I have to do.
It's hard enough to spend all 6 stacks in a single burst window anyway
Chain
skill
hit
skill
hit
skill
hit
hit
hit
hit
(consumes 6 stats)
and that's pretty much all the time you have anyway.
or for more dps but less overall damage
Chain
Skill/Skill
Hit
Skill
hit
hit
hit
hit
(consumes 5 stacks)
So before you start your daze stuff again (which you want with this character) you just do 1 dashattack before you switch her out and perhaps a quick assist dash attack.
Back to 6 stacks again.
Bcs you are not taking in the fact that every dodge will now give extra stacks so you won't waste time roaming and doing the scissor. Same applies to assist swap with the instant scissor, you simply don't care about having to manage stacks, she has more onfield dps time and more room to burst during boss stun/daze. The fact that I don't need to do all the management you are doing makes it, well you guessed it, smoother.
@@Raikos100 That's not correct though.
You don't gather stacks during stun/daze, you are already set with 6 stacks before you get to that (and it takes like 2s longer at the beginning of the fight)
If you do it differently (during stun) you are just wasting time... and as mentioned, you don't have time to even spend 6 stacks if you play properly because you hopefully weave skills in to get Basic3 going and going.
There is hardly any difference in terms of how you play, if you use a stunner character - that is. Perhaps I should clarify.
But this video quite obviously takes a stunner in consideration.
Is he F2P?
i got nekomata and ellen w engine in 10 pulls on 20 pitty . and win 50/50 on ellen on 80 pitty . f2p btw. rank 35 btw
goated
What refinement was those w engine 4 stars at?
normally when it comes to cn analysis, they only or commonly compare r0 5stars with r5 4stars weapons, which the signature 5stars as benchmark
@@gryph-jn7bp thanks mate
bro slowdown a bit. kinda hard to understand what you saying sometimes. good vid though. lucky enough that won m2r1
Ellen is not f2p relatable, misinformation!
I lose my 50 50 and i got 3 copy of furry now, worst game ever
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shes not the strongest tho
Yes she is
Uninstall is the strongest one 💤
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