Does Height Matter In MMA?
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Tony ferguson the type of guy to make height before a fight.
Awesome comment lol
Well done.
Five years from now you guys will still find value in that tired comment.
Lol, doesn't make sense
Shane Carwin was the height cutting GOAT
"I see holes in donuts" - Daniel Cormier
You’re not even trying are you?
Steven Sullivan bahahahahaaa
cry now laugh later it’s effortless for this guy
Cormier is an example
Fat fuck dwarf not a champ
Fans: Ask a question
Uncle Chael: Answers his own question
No one answers Chael’s questions better than Chael.
drz only chael knows the answers to Chaels questions
Chael: "Reach wont help you in a fight.."
Jon Jones' reach: "Hold my Recuerdo.."
Are you sure the steroids didn't have anything to do with that.
Bahahahahahaha yea the peds and roids sure have Jones an edge. Jones shouldn't be able to compete at all imo. ANY fighter testing positive. Should be fucking banned for life
Otherwise here a better idea. Which would guarantee, a sort of higher degree, caliber of fighter. Legalize all drugs. C'mon man, you dont want to see diaz connor 3 and they both been binging on meth for 4 months? Along with roids and peds? It would be a fucking barn burner of a fight lol
@@spitty3456 most fighters on the toster would be banned then. Especially those who who have been in the sport for a while. People don't realuse how rampant ped use was, especially in the early dayd up to only 5/10 years ago.
“Hold my juice bottle” triple J aka Jon “juice” Jones
Chael: thinking of example of fighters considered “short for their weight class”
Chael: Mike Tyson
DC: Am I a joke to you?
People are talking about "height" when they should be talking "size" as in size of the frame. Mark Hunt was also "short" but build like freight train and KOed Struve, who was feet taller than him.
Hendricks is for example "short" for middleweight, but also has heavy frame.
On the other hand Adesanya would get murdered in heavyweight division despite being like 6 foot 3 inches.
Tony Ferguson the Type of guy to read the terms and conditions and decline
Wasabiking 420 interestingly enough, that’s something that should be more normalized
@@FMafia206 exactly
Tom the spammer y are u spamming thomas?
Stop fucking stealing jokes
Wasabiking 420 stolen comment
Nobody:
Uncle Chael: "2+2 does not equal 4"
Me: ok great
Dostoevsky moment
2oz of water + 2oz of rubbing alcohol is a little under 4... Science class 7 grade
You Cant Take My Smile why are you calling him a simpleton? He was just making a joke about how convincing Chael is no matter what
@You Cant Take My Smile yo what's up Mr Big dick energy.
@You Cant Take My Smile when did I ever claim that, dumbass
Chael is 6'1" and proved that you can overcome a height disadvantage when he became the greatest heavyweight and greatest p4p fighter of all time
He s 6ft
Chael only competed at heavyweight a few times because his oppenents would get too scared of the size of West Linn's biggest arms.
@Allen Macall google is the most innacurate shit ever
Allen Macall almost every ufcs fighters height is inflated
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to find out Khabib’s phone number and constantly share his location with him
Lowkey not bad, ill give u a like lol.
Knowing that khabib can’t make it. Lol. Like a lion locked in cage and a dog challenges him to a fight 😂
@@mdm9096 so the "lion" locked himself in the cage 😂
@@o1h823 He was locked in that cage.
MDM
Lions dont dry hump dudes for 5 rounds straight. Khabib is boring.
Igor Vovchanchyn was 37-0 in heavyweight, he was 5'8.
@@abenezermulugeta1813 wth
He did
@@momkidnapper9697 i think he meant ufc
Many of his fights were fixed
@@marcbasilno proof
@@furioushinzo1063 proof…? Go look at the organizations he competed in
DC and Fedor are a little short for heavyweight.
Fedor over 6ft dc is 5'10. Fedor is average-ish
You Cant Take My Smile DC ain’t no goat
@You Cant Take My Smile So you call him a loser cause he stated a fact? Insecure much? They had to work hard and come up with proper style to be effective. I forget the guys name, but he was fighting recently, very good wrestler - but he's very very short for middleweight, he lost his last fight. He would do really well by moving down to lower weight class.
You guys are toxic fuck. Grow up. DC at the very least is short for heavyweight and is also unbiased considered one of the greatest of all time. With disadvantage comes adaptation.
You Cant Take My Smile one was an eyepoker and another only fought washed up fighters. They're far from great. Id put Jon Jones, gsp, nick diaz, khabib, frank Mir, and Max Holloway over those two clowns.
Jones is living proof that height and reach matters, lol. This dude's arms can reach you from half way across the cage. But I guess there's also a law of diminishing returns because if you look at Struve or Hong-man Choi, the excess size becomes a detriment.
Living proof that career long juicing matter
No, struve and choi were just bad at fighting. But it is true, they lacked the athleticism to go with the size.
Razear Jones is a freak of nature.
@@ravenoushydra7948 Stipe Miocic begs to differ
DC beat Stipe. He could possibly beat him in a 3rd fight. Fighter IQ is really a big factor. DC would break Struve.
Latifi is short even for middleweight standards, so let me offer you this: bantamweight Latifi
Ghostface Killah flyweight mark hunt
Cejudo vs latifi next for the "shortest in their divisions" title.
He’s 5’10. How is that short for a middleweight?
@@AlphaQHard hes actually 5'8
look at hector lombard
Height means nothing Cejudo is 4’7” and he’s the champ
5'4
You Cant Take My Smile lol
I love how your comment implies there are tall fuckers in flyweight or bantamweight lol height means something when they know how to use it you cant be Izzy tall or Jones tall and not use it properly otherwise you end up like struve
@You Cant Take My Smile yeah all oly sprinters are midgets... smaller limbs = slower its literal physics.
@@clqliveson are u dumb 😂😂😂
Another example of a short heavy weight is D.C.
Lol challenge complete.
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ Yeah but relative to other heavyweights.
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We’ve had a 5’9 HW champ
Who
@@jaythanoats4039 dc is listed as 5’11 but has said himself thats how tall he is with his best shoes on (so thats about an inch and a half or two inches taller),
So dc is around 5’9 according to his own statement..
Daniel Cormier is a short heavyweight that made it work. This is why he is one of the best ever.
Hes also an eye poking dickhead
The heavyweight division in the UFC is very shallow tho
@@errolflynn7153 truuue
Lol DC is generously listed at 5'11 but more like 5'9" - 5'10" and was LHW and HW champ...and what about what many call the goat in Fedor? Generously listed at 6'0" and everyone knows his accolades
And Jones is 6"9 easy
Whats the point?
Chael is 7 ft 7
In fairness, Fedor aged much worse than his taller colleagues because he relied so much on his speed and explosiveness. Mirko, at about 6’1”, had a similar problem. By 34-35, both of them were pretty much shot. Now, DC and Mark Hunt have both aged better, but they both have much better chins and in DC’s case world class wrestling. Point being, if you’re not quick enough to close range or sturdy enough to take punishment, you’re gonna have trouble against longer, rangier guys, and more as you go on and you slow up a bit.
This
I think DC is a legit 5'10 barefoot, idk why they list em at 5'11 sometimes.
somebodyonce toldme Great observation on DC. DC is 5’10 barefoot max. He’s most likely a 5’9 1/2- 5’9 3/4 barefoot guy though based on him being almost the exact same height as Khabib who is slightly under 5’10 barefoot. Yeah the 5’11 listing is blatantly high but there’s been worse like Midget MAC at 5’10 years ago now 5’9 when everyone knows he’s 5’8 1/2 max barefoot, or essentially every prominent featherweight and lightweight over the last decade. Then you have the legend Nate Diaz who is maybe the only 🐐 level guy in the UFC’s history with a reverse listing where he’s always been 6’1 barefoot and they usually list him at 6 feet flat. GSP also once listed at 5’11 when he’s not even 5’10 barefoot. All 3 major sports NFL, NBA and now the UFC supplanting baseball need to measure their athletes live on air before every season to make sure the public gets their genuine heights down to the 1/8 of an inch. 💯
Uhmm Mark Hunt who is barely 6 foot knocked out Stefan Struve who is about 7 foot tall🤷🏽♂️😂
He's barely taller than a kiwi
Doesn't matter
He'd F us all up
Respects to M Hunt
His fight with Bigbfoot is LEGENDARY
LOOK IT UP Y*O FUCK*
Oblivion Creety For heavyweight where the average height is 6’2-6’3, 5’10 is short
@Oblivion Creety yeah bro Hunto is 5 foot 10 inches, that's pretty short when Struve is 7 foot
and i mean sure kelvin gastelum may have lost to israel but that fight was a pretty competitive with a 7 inch height difference. also andy ruiz looked pretty short against anthony joshua.
Yeah Hunt had to jump up just to be able to reach Struve's face
Finally a Sakuraba question, for the real MMA fans
Chael forgets to mention that Billy Robinson taught catch in Japan while doing pro wrestling and most likely that is the source of Sakuraba's catch wrestling background during pro wrestling.
What…? Everyone knows who sakuraba is, he’s one of the most popular fighters in history
Thanks Unc, insightful commentary as always
This is a good format.
Good video.
The Serbian fan has told me about a fight I need to see
Sakuraba also had those awesome unorthodox strikes. The double ear clap. The flying foot stomp to the face. So dope.
Does height matter in MMA?
Chael P-“It’s a very real thing”.
Dc
I'd like to see an episode on dirty fighting, especially since refs rarely deduct points. Maybe discuss common dirty techniques and examples when they were used and how it impacted the fight result.
It depends if you know how to utilize it correctly. A fighter like Stefan Struve who’s 7 ft tall with an 84 inch reach could be a force at HW just by picking guys apart from a distance, but he gets knocked out by shorter guys on the regular. Same with James Vick, 6’3 at lightweight/welterweight. On the other hand you have someone like Jon Jones who utilizes his physical gifts like his reach and height to big brother his opponents in the cage, and we all know how well that works for him.
There are a couple more exceptions to the height concept, Frankie Edgar was extremely successful at 155 pounds even though he was always significantly smaller than his opponents. A more recent example has been Alex Volkanovski’s matchup against Holloway, Holloway was 5 inches taller but Alex was able to get inside and keep things where he wanted it to be with relative ease.
I love how Chael is willing to talk about topics that is on everyone's mind but no one is willing to talk about. Uncle Chael is never wrong!
Yes, height can matter. If both opponents have equal reach but one is 6'3" and the other 5'6" its gonna seem like there is a reach diff because of the striking angles you have to use.
Also, it is common for taller people to have that reach advantage which can matter if used properly.
I think a good example would be Jon Jones vs Cormier. Jon had a 3 inch reach and 5 inch height advantage and he did well to keep the appropriate spacing for striking. Then in the clinch he was able to effectively use that height an reach to strike from good angles with knees and elbows.
Alexander Volkov is another good example of someone who effectively uses his height and reach advantage with technique in a division filled with sluggers.
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to *MAKE* height matter
Tony Ferguson makes height on every fight
Quick!!! Name a top 5 fighter on a win streak Tony Ferguson has beaten?
@HeckYeahMane Kevin "I want to fight Jon Jones at 165" Lee
@HeckYeahMane guess it turned out against himself 🤷♂️
Height/reach is like wrestling you can chose how to fight, if your the better wrestler you can choose to strike or grapple, if you have the booger reach you can either strike out at a distance or brawl close together
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to have a championship fight when there is no fight.
mr.tbaggin urmom Lol dude is fuckin wild though! I love him 🤷♂️
Yawnnnnnnnnn
He could still fight himself. It kind of sounds like he will.
Champ shit only
this hurt
Sakuraba is still fighting?! Wow! I remember his knee being taped up so much even in 2004
Anoyne noticed how average height for each weight class changed over the years? Back in the day guys at lightweight were often 5'6 or 5'8, now most of them are taller and a lot of short guys moved down. That also goes for muscle mass to some degree, just compare Matt Hughes (considered a huuuge welterweight back then) to Kamaru for example.
Matt Hughes was always huge though.
Brilliant insight Chael. Thanks. 👊🏽 #BadGuyINC
Chael I would like to see a video of you talking about weight cutting. For example I don’t really under stand why guys who normally weigh around 200 pounds; why do they often cut weight and fight in like a 180 or lower category? Of course I understand that less weight can make the fighter faster but I don’t really see why 2 guys that weigh 200 on a normal day would both cut down weight just for 2 days.
Great question
Ilir is a thick tank of a man, there's no way his body will allow him to go to middleweight.
Cormier, Gastelum, and even Demetrius Johnson are great examples of being short for their weight class and still winning. Height matters but you can overcome it and even make it a disadvantage if you know what you're doing
I mean most flyweights are around 5’3 dj isn’t short for his weight class.
I'm 5'9 and going to make my debut at 170. My reach is 74 inches
Whats yer stage name??
I'm being serious!!
Ballistixx_2K Conor stats
Good luck my man
Good luck bro!
@@joseardila9895 ya lol. I thought that too. 😂 one day I thought about that and realized the comparison.
Height doesn’t matter. We see Vegeta and Frieza beat up everyone in DBZ.
And Goku is only 5'7. Yet Piccolo, Cell and Super Buu, who are all over 6 foot, were made his bitch.
I remember competing in medium heavy at a grappling tournament lol it’s just I was lazy to lose weight lol ended up fighting dudes that are all over 6 ft
I went from mma wrestling to college and it's been super hard for me to learn how to be in such a close range
IDK if you can say there's no advantage to reach. I remember when everyone was complaining about Jon Jones' reach advantage someone on sherdog pointed out that almost every dominant champion had a significant reach advantage over their opponents even if they were viewed as non-strikers. GSP has a freakishly long reach for a smaller guy. People who are positive ape index tend to be freakishly strong regardless of reach or striking prowess.
Rocky Marciano had the or one of the shortest reaches out of any heavyweight champion.
Volkanovski did pretty well against Holloway at a five inch height deficit.
Volk has an unusually long reach. Like +7 on the ape index or whatever
Being short can be an advantage. The hardest people I've sparred are short stocky types. there so fucking hard to take down
Chael was good with his hands but he didn't use it as much as other great wrestlers that can do both. Another aspect of Chael's stand up that doesn't get spoke on very often was his defense. You go back and watch tape of Chael's fights his defensive boxing skills was actually incredible. He fought the best in world and hardly ever got caught square on the chin in the stand up department.
Yasuyuki muneta was a 5ft 6 inch judoka and he weighs in at 287lbs and he was one of the greatest heavyweight and he defeated guys well over 6ft and also defeated a 6ft 9 inch judoka
Yes next question
I think a size advantage WITHIN a reasonable range is insanely overblown at times as if it’s the only thing that matters in a fight. And this goes double for pure height advantage ala fighters in same division with relatively big height difference. Did we not see James Vick get his head blasted by Justin Gaethje?
Athleticism, skillset and fight IQ are way more important in general if you look at MMA when open weight fights were held or when people move up or down in divisions. Some fighters also know how to utilize their size advantage/“disadvantage” much better than others. Sure if you’re a heavyweight and fighting a featherweight that’s unfair, but you’re telling me Yoel couldn’t knock out at least 80% of the ufc heavyweight division?
In my opinion, usually height advantage also leads to reach advantage. And while I don't think it matters a whole lot, once you're looking at a fighter having 4+ inches of reach advantage. It's definetly an advantage, being able to probe and use poking strikes, to keep your opponent at range. Forcing them to push in to have the opportunity to connect. But with all that said, I think as far as advantages go, I put reach pretty low on the scale. For example I think if one fighter has 4 inches of reach, but no real wrestling skills. And the other fighter with the 4 inch disadvantage has wrestling. I personally find the wrestling matters more than the reach.
If you're shorter, you have to punch up. So, even if your reach is the same, effectively it is shorter.
@You Cant Take My Smile
I attended both a Jiu Jitsu gym as an adult. And did judo from 8-14. Never competed you're right in that. Dunno what your point is though? Because we've never competed we can't offer our opinion? I'm sure you've only ever made statements about things you've done to the highest level in your personal life right? I'm sure you've never made a comment about science or politics without either going to school, or participating in those fields as a profession? Since, if you've not done it to your fullest you should just keep your mouth shut.
Just from a debate point. I say reach is an advantage but not a big one. Another person says reach is a big advantage. You discredit us both, what's your stance here? It doesn't matter at all never gave a fighter an edge? Or you agree with one of us but just want to be a cunt?
@You Cant Take My Smile hes just saying its an advantage man i dont think hes saying height is that much of a big deal. Look at mike tyson, cejudo etc. There are so many more things important than height. Having reach advantage is just like having good flexibility, good explosiveness, good work ethic etc. Just having reach and nothing else gets you nowhere *looks at stefan struve*
Height matters: I’m sure there’s a Henry Cejudo joke there somewhere, let’s hear them pls.
DC is more of an outlier than cejudo
@@thishandleistaken1011 And Kelvin Gastelum
@C Box Is 5'7 considered as a manlet?
Miki Baznija
Kinda. Then again people call anything below 6ft a manlet so i wouldnt worry about it. Im 5’10 so I guess i fall into that category 😂
5'4 isn't short for bantamweight and Flyweight lmao.
Old dude asking about the special sauce you know he got a mean rib rack cooking out back
Another example is Kevin gastelum who is in the middleweight division being 5’9 (some argue he’s even shorter being 5’8 or 5’8 1/2 tops) and even though he is no world champion without a doubt he holds his own in that weight class.
We love that Uncle Chael Uploads at Midnight
"reach is not that relevant"
Jon Jones "hold my mezcal"
Hold his bag of coke
Hold my PEDs
Of course height matters. Easier to land kicks for a start, then it's much easier to strike straight infront of you (shoulder level) than upwards as you can generate more power.
Great short fighters (Tyson) overcome their height, rather than are blessed with shortness, in my opinion
DC is another exception to the rule then. This is something iAlways think about but iHave no training so iCould never say if its a real problem or if guys just adjust to an extent.
Height and reach does help obviously but it's not quite as important in MMA as in boxing because in MMA we can mix it up. It's still an advantage almost all fighters want though
Mike tyson would disagree, and Andy Hug the best k-1 heavyweight fighter is also only 5.11
@@munakay6914 Your point is? there are obviously exceptions but for the most part its better to have it.
@@devanman7920 I dont think excepts, there is a lot more than just the rare example. Look at Volkanovski for example.
If you use the jab effectively like Jones dose , it seems to me reach can make a big difference.
Joe Frazier
Imagine Cory Sanhagen fighting Henry Cejudo.
George Roop vs. Cejudo
I think Cejudo would destroy Sanhagen
Cejudo would get inside and wrestle fuck him lol
@@user-vp9xn3wb7v with grappling sure but, I highly doubt he'll be able to land very well on such a tall guy. Short height and short reach for that division. It's why he never called out Max Holloway but keeps calling out Alex Volkanovski
Sandhagen almost lost to lineker so id say size wouldnt make that fight against cejudo
DC is 5'9½ and he was double champion at LHW and HW
Success is possible with shorter than average heights in the heavyweights I think... Look at Fedor and DC. I'm 5 '11 and training to fight at 230 lbs. I think the trick is that if you're going to have the height of a welterweight as a heavyweight, you better have the power of a heavyweight with the speed of a welterweight to make up for the lack of height.
As great of a mma fighter Stipe is, I don't think I want to see him fight Rico Verhoven in kickboxing. Way too one-sided. But seeing them in mma could be interesting. Rico does have some clinch skills due to his muay thai and would really only need to focus on some takedown defense to have a shot.
The only thing that matters when it comes to fighting is if Uncle Chael fines you good looking or not. ;o)
Canelo for Light Heavyweight? would that be one? possibly Lomachenko at the 135lbs weight class, given most of the guys there are fairly taller than he is
I hated fighting guys taller than me around the 6-foot mark I'm about five 9 and I got a good reach for my height. But a taller guy with good hands can stand strait up and rain down punches. Sometimes it takes a level of finesse that I didnt have, to deal with that.
Yeah height played a big part when mighty mouse fought Cruz. Cruz used his size advantage very well even though technically mighty mouse was more well rounded
Counter question. Is it possible to be too tall for mma? Stefon struve seemed to struggle even though he always had a big height advantage.
Guy from serbia just been told straight facts from the goat sonnen
Tito tapped!!!!!!!!
Yeah they are more height classes however when you are a thick guy you don't want to lose too much strength. Which is why guy's like Shaun Sherk didn't fight at 135. Guy's like Max Holloway and Nate Diaz can fight at weight classes smaller than you'd expect because they are really skinny. So there are exceptions but if you are tall for the weight class you are usually skinny while if you are thick you have a reach disadvantage.
Gastelum, Hunt, DC, Penn, Edgar there are lots of exceptions to that... They are all champs or contenders too
I think height matters only if you are a striker, if u are a good wrestler you can be short (like DC) but if ur a good striker being short will hinder you
How much does girth matter? I know it helps in the JJ game
This is so true... All of the 30 opponents that triangled Chael were at least 6 feet tall.
You said offer you another example besides Mike. What about D.C? He's only 5'10 and won the heavyweight title
And won a hw grand Prix back in the day before cunts come on here claiming he fluked that hw belt he's beaten a lot of heavyweights
thomas burns DC sucks
Does anyone know where you could watch any matches Sakuraba still does if they're broadcast anywhere?
How good was Evan Tanner? And any good stories of him????
How Sakuraba beat the Gracies: beat them on the feet, shoot for takedowns and then disengage. Forget passing the guard. When on the ground, ride and strike instead of hooks and back take. Always try to turtle and get up instead of playing guard. When his turtle was body locked, he employed the double wrist lock and they didn't know how to deal with it. (BJJ scout video on Saku vs Renzo).
Have you guys heard of Kevin gastelum and mike Tyson? Height absolutely does not matter if you have skill, but it does help
Roberto Duran is another example as well as mike
Love the shout out to MJ and Dominique Moceanu from 1996 Olympics. Also the shout out to the short lived, steroid infused, career of Johnny cheeseburger
Daniel Cormier would be a good example..But another one would be the guy that beat Max Holloway for the belt . Style Benders teammate
«Small» fighters for their weight class: DC, Mark Hunt, Fedor, Romero, Volkanovski, Latifi, Melvin Manhoef, Sokodju(?), Gohakan Saki, Ray Sefo, Joe Fraizer, Roy Nelson
Height and reach don't matter if you go in close and low. You may have to force your way in in a bad way, but once there, the domain is yours.
So if I'm 6.2 and 66kg, does that make me too tall for featherweight eventhough it's literally what I walk around at and i should try lightweight to get on a similar eyelevel..? And why isn't DC too short..?
CHAEL PLEASE COVER THE DAKE AND BURROUGHS BEEF THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED
Mark Hunt 5'10 ko d Stephan struve 7 ft Jeff Monson 5'8 with over 60 wins at heavyweight D.C. Is only 5'10 matt Serra 5'6 170 champ etc. it just depends if the shorter fighter can implement their strengths and not let the taller man implement theirs. But it's obviously a challenge and is better if u are similar in height to opponents
Keep the fan questions coming!
Reach is relevant when neither fighter uses wrestling, like izzy vs costa. izzy had an 8" reach advantage and its impact was clearly visible
Was it clearly visible when he faces Kelvin???
@@lbishop0811 i said that it's relevant, not the sole deciding factor. Also, Izzy did win that fight
MMA on point did an in depth study using various factors and found that height makes no real difference in whether a fighter wins or not. Sounds strange I know but they studied it the numbers don't lie. Go watch the video it's kinda interesting. There are many, many examples.
Height matters, but what really matters is knowing how to use it for your advantage.
Daniel Cormier is basically the same height as Ilir Latifi, but DC knows how to close the distance a lot better and became the heavyweight champion.
Stefan Struve is 7 feet tall and doesn't know how to fight from the outside. Meanwhile Jon Jones is a master at fighting on the outside while having the same reach, despite being shorter.
Physical attributes only matter as much as how you use them.
I've seen many UFC fights that I thought were fixed. I've seen more in the UFC than I've seen in Pride. Chael has always been envious of those Pride fighters who achieved success.
No you haven’t lol
Also, what in gods name are you even talking about 🤨🤦🏻🤣. Pride was a joke, and no one was envious of those Iosers. They got stomped in the head for almost no money LOL
@chaelsonnen what about the Great Daniel Cormier
Challenge me to another height exception? What about Daniel Cormier he is short for his weight class and still did amazingly well, became the champ
It truly depends on the fighter. 5'8-5'9 Latifi at heavyweight sucks. 5'9 DC is perfect for heavyweight. 5'9 Hendricks at middleweight sucks. 5'9 Gastelum at middleweight is a beast.
Adesanya's reach is a very helpful advantage. So was Anderson Silva's.