De ligt isnt just a former Ajax player, He was the key player in that ajax team and paired perfectly as Ball playing CB/Libero with De jong at CDM. It was fun to see.
@@zeeone4492 Failed at 2 clubs? sometimes you think you made a good choice but afterwards you regret is because of several reasons. one of them was the loyalty of juventus coach to keep playing with Bonucci and Chielini. If you make him with martinez the leaders of defence, they could make you PL winner.
That’s a lot of past tense glory in that observation…his price alone should be enough to walk away from.
@@zeeone4492He didn’t fail at either. The thing that did happen was that they tried to make him a different, more out and out defender, instead of the more libero role he had at Ajax. That Ajax role fits de Ligt like a glove and is a perfect fit for United.
Bayern when they sold Kross most definitely regretted that!
but even after that, they never really seem to struggle both in the League and UCL, just like when Real Madrid sold Varane and Casemiro
Yes they did. He left in 2014 and it took Bayern Munich till 2020 to win one more champions league, while Kroos added 5 at Real Madrid to the one he got at Bayern in 2013.
Lots of fans seem to forget that we will need some experiences in our starting center backs, provided that both Maguire and Lindelof will depart this summer. Signing Yoro and Branthwaite look great but they are still young prospect. De Ligt, on the other hand, is only 24 and 25 but already has lots of experiences in him in both league and international levels. That's something you can't ignore.
I think, he doesn't has the mentality. He had no long term success with Bayern or Juventus. I think it's just too much pressure for him.
De ligt would be a sensational buy because he's comanding and composed on the ball and not even in his prime. He'd be a great replacement for varane. Let's hope it happens 🤞
@@zeeone4492 1. Injury Prone? -> maybe but no. of games played record says otherwise.
2. Failed at 2 clubs? -> Really? Do you watch football? 2 transfers were driven you know who. His name was Mino Raiola.
3. Over paid? -> Again comes down to Mino Raiola.
It’s hard to believe he is only 24!!
What’s for sure is that he is a leader!!!
Always when Sam's on holiday 😂
Apparently they want around 40 mil so if ten hag says yes we all should say yes
@@zeeone4492 That logic also applied to Robben. Payment was then negotiated by Mino Raiola who is no more.
@@zeeone4492 didn’t won the league with both clubs juventus had to sell for financial reasons and at Bayern he wasn’t being played last season waffler
@@zeeone4492to put some context on that. Forbes is reporting that he is on around £260k a week at Bayern.
De Ligt and Martinez are exceptionally press resistant and have unlimited passing range. He can be had for £43m.
Finally someone who knows ball. People out here saying red flags and he's injury prone which he isn't. They haven't seen this defender play.
@@Dmaj089his wages might be an issue though. Can’t see INEOS getting Man Utd’s wages under control if they have to offer him more than the £260k a week he is on at Bayern.
Both also can't defend (wide areas + in the air for Lucha; at all for De Ligt.)
@@user-zc2sz1os3j another stupid take. Wide areas😂 have you actually seen de Ligt play or you just yap. Licha is good in the air. Short yes. But good in the air. What's wrong with casuals
Martinez is a former Ajax player. Of course, De Ligt would need to take a paycut - but he is an upgrade on Lindelof
Why should be take a pay cut? There is little incentive for him to do so.
@@pratosaurusrex1128he will be guaranteed more game time at united, a new beginning considering how disastrous his time at Bayern has been, there's incentive
@@pratosaurusrex1128Because he wants football and rid of plague he was caught into by Mino Raiola. And go back to his old coach who groomed him into footballer he was at Ajax.
Matthijs de Ligt.
Im a dutch guy. You pronounce it more as mathheus (as in lothar mattheus).
I think its best to pronounce it liked mat-tice de ligt.
Don’t even want to see guehi mentioned as an option
Comes in on 300k pw, does well for a while, gets injured, sits out for two seasons, signs a bigger contract, struggles with injuries, rarely plays, leaves on a free in 2030.
I can see at least one pro and con with signing De Ligt.
Pro: we have two center backs with warrior mentality who is not affaid of getting hurt from a challenge
Con: both are injury prone
I wouldn't call either of them injury prone. Martinez just had a bad injury last season and was rushed back too early. De Ligt's longest injury was 3 months and that was back when he was at Juventus, he missed 20 games last season but only 5 and 2 in the previous seasons.
We need a solid young defender and he’s not that expensive these days. He was captain at 19 now that’s impressive
He wants £260k a week, Bayern want around £60m and his injury record is horrid. It’s way overpriced for him.
@@HalftimeOranges328 compared to the likes of shaw it’s not that bad or previously jones
@@jordanmassey1860 it’s literally directly comparable to Shaw and exactly why he’s not a good signing. People are desperate to replace Shaw due to his injury record and you want us to spend £60m on a CB with an injury record that’s just as bad, and give him £100k a week more wages than Shaw earns. Nonsense.
Bayern said they would lower the price and De Ligt said the wages are not important so might accept lower than the 250 he gets now
I think Martinez and De Ligt would complement each other very well
Hes on €260,000 p/w at Bayern im sure, so whatever that is in £ im not too sure. Im undecided on this tbf, hope all is well Sam! Enjoy your next few days 😂👍
That's £220,000 pw... That's £30000 more than we pay Maguire.. Just for context..
We get rid of Maguire and with the departures of Maguire & Lindelof, £220,000 pw for De Ligt is not an issue. Todibo and Kambwala are not going to get more than £120,000 pw...
That's £220k a week. But if he's keen to leave because he's out of favour at Bayern he might take a pay cut. Put him on £160k for next season, and if we qualify for the Champions League his wages will go up to around £200k, so not much difference to what he's on now.
Sam - you should really do a long form video on what’s happening with the women’s team. We lost Russo and now Earps to downright bad management. Chelsea is soaring away with trophies and we are not competing enough. Plus, icing on the cake is that Ratcliffe doesn’t seem interested in the women’s team at all either. Would really love to know what’s happening and your analysis on it as well.
Thanks, and absolutely love what you do. I watch every single one of your videos. Keep shining! ❤❤
De Ligt fits the ten Hag style like a glove. He is also a very smart, positive guy who is obsessed with winning. He went to juve and they tried to make him a different kind of defender. He was a great libero type defender at Ajax, who also made important header goals, at juve he had to build physique and stay back more, which doesn’t bring out his strongest side. He would be a great signing, but he does need a good check up in medical, to ensure he isn’t going to be injured a lot.
It makes sense especially as the manager knows and trusts him.
Love your dedication Sam doing videos for us on your holidays
De ligt and Martinez in defense would put fear in the heart of any attackers. De ligt is a warrior, he wears his heart on his sleeve and will always give his life for our club
De Ligt is a beast, absolutely amazing signing. Everyone will be jaleous as soon as he is in form. Imagine him next to Lisandro in front of Onana. Most clean sheets!! Mark my words
MDL is still young and the biggest positives are his relationship with EtH and EtH being his first coach/manager...there are a lot of variables & uncertanities when it comes to a player being successful at a club...for all we know, Martinez may not capture his first season form again, Mount may become another Veron & Kleberson, etc.
what we know for certain is that MDL likes EtH, he liked united as a child, he understands EtH football, & is a leader, so I think we should go for MDL but only for the right price, we honestly don't have many options right now
Bayern spent £56 million on De Ligt. No chance we're paying more than that. If he's available for transfer then it has to be for less than they paid. Considering they replaced him with Kim Min Jae at a value of £42 million..... £40 mill is the ballpark. His injury record is more of a concern than his Ajax history. We dont have space in the rehab centre for anyone else. Todibo would be the one tho. Quicker more aggressive
Todibo plus him would be a dream
@@DraakMDEven if Lindelof leaves, I don't think Todibo will be happy coming off the bench for de Ligt
Given that the appeal for Todibo could well go past the transfer window, I’m more than happy with signing De Ligt. It hasn’t gone gangbusters for him since leaving Ajax, but he’s still 24 and is still a good upgrade on what we currently have. I’m glad that INEOS is looking to move quickly and pivot when needed
You hit the nail on the head saying if Bayern are willing to sell then there must be a problem
Former Ajax already at Utd:
-Onana
-Eriksen
-Martinez
-Anthony
-Van Der Beek
So what's one more ;)
Of the guys Ten Hag brought, the only misser is Anthony so far. And I think that last season, the problem at Utd really was the defense line, specially with injury's.
At Ajax, the former players Ten Hag brought was always looked down to at first, but in the end, they were all hitters.
I think De Ligt wouldn't be a bad choise, but If EtH opts for someone else, it will also be good. Good defenders are hard to come by (and expensive like VVD, Maquire at the time).
Anyone who says he’s not good or would not take him, i bet they have not watched a single game the last 2 seasons of him. If he signs he wil captain this team with in 3 years. Absolutely class player. Knows the coach, knows the style of play. Has the potential to be the next Vidic for united.
Nice 1 bro hope ur having good time m8 enjoy! 🍻
If we are buying both Branthwaite and De ligt we can play Martinez as an inverting LB or a DM as he has good progressive and tackling numbers
Yes if only 50M and 150K/wk wage
Price tag and injury proneness is the problem for me if we ever gonna get him. On top of that he needs to agree to a pay cut if not that is a huge NO for me. Honestly if me I would just make the unethical move to let go of Todibo from Nice and just purchase him as a Free agent.
That's not just unethical, its a sham that wouldn't stand up legally. Its also not smart as Nice would be adversely affected by losing a valuable asset without the money to replace him!
The only problem with De Ligt is the wage and Injuries. But he's faaaaaar better cb than any cb that we have been linked with
50 to 60 mil would be considered a bargain given the history of transfers this club has had over the years. Let's see what the new people in charge can do
De Ligt isn’t “a” former Ajax player, he is THE former Ajax player … would eat our whole spending budget.
hes available for under 50 mil since bayern are bringing in Tah from leverkusen
I Think De Ligt can be a really good signing with his leadership qualities together with Licha’s. He is a great defender and has the potential to become one of the best in the game in my opinion. He has already played with ETH before and shown he can play his system in a great team but his injury record is a concerning factor but if United can negotiate a “cheapish” deal and he’s wages going down I would think this would be a great move for us.
I think de ligt would be a awesome upgrade to Lindelof Ajax cause for concern but having also played in the bundeslegue. The fact he is 24 and been on the scene for so long.
De Ligt would have to come on reduced wages, no way are we going to match what he's on at Bayern (take reported wages with a pinch of salt anyhow). But if he's keen to joining it's possible.
If we could get De Ligt & Branthwaite for a combined £100m and on wages of say £120k for Branthwaite and £150k for De Ligt then combined they will cost us £34m a year for FFP. Varane was costing us £34m a year. Two for the price of one. Happy days.
Ratcliff just mentioned us spending 1 billion and way more than Madrid and being crap, that they must do better, and now they are considering buying de Ligt, that is so mindblowing
His injuries and wage demands are of concern to me.
Question is not what Manu are considering, does the player even want to come, and secondly is the club willing to sell? Period
In the cl last season Bayern suffered when they subbed off de ligt for mae
Nobody at the club should be paid more than Bruno, including de ligt
if Bayern really want to move De Ligt, i think theyd settle for 40m and i could see him taking a drop in wages to around 215k a week in order to go somewhere where he would be a main player
There are no options for CD, and other sources will be sold around 45 million.
Bayern have a new board so it’s not the former board that made great decisions ( bar Kroos), this could be a good buy depending on salary the transfer fee seems to be more in the region of £30-40m that’s decent for a defender at his age
It will definitely be worth the money. If you look at the period in which he performed fantastically, this was mainly due to the trust from those around him. It is up to him not to be dependent on this, but Erik ten Hag can give him that confidence and together with Martinez you have a champions league winner worthy defense.
There are more knobs to turn to make it successful, this is definitely one of them.
I guess De ligt can be bought for around 50m. The problem is his salary and not the valuation. I like De ligt and he would be an upgrade for sure.
They won't go for De Ligt based on the financials.. Ineos are going to focus on cutting costs, not increasing them.
He had 4 different injuries last season and was out for 20 games.
Problem: All CBs injured.
Solution: Buy another injury prone player.
I think he's a backup option and 4th choice rn. Bayern are tryna sign 2 CBs this summer, ITO already in.
The only concern i‘d have about deligt is injury concern but not about his quality
Agree!!!, and he looks pretty slow as well...hope this is a strategy from Man United to decrease Branthwhite's valuation.
Happy holidays Sam.
I would assume there is no news regarding united taking Uefa to court or whatever it was over Todibo?
Be better than going for Branthewait.
His leadership at the back alone would be essential for us.
Also, de Ligt was their best defender last season. Ask any of their fans that
How's your health been mate. Good video!
I won't agree at all that Bayern selling only scrubs when they sell, they sold Kroos, thiago, alaba, zirkzee, Hojbjerg, Mandzukic, Emre Can and few others who became better after leaving bayern (maybe not Alaba & thiago, they were alright at Bayern)
Also there is nothing as Bullseye in transfers, Everyone thought Todibo is a given & see what is happening. Every transfer is a risk but when you lose a player like Varane I can see why we are going after an established CB like De Ligt
United REALLY need him.
He's way better than that Everton guy.
For sure. If De Ligt’s asking price is under 50 mil, then its a steal. But the injuries still worry me tho
You don't even know his name, 😂 how have you watched him play to know that
@@ashtonndlovu9470 pipe down Mr wise funny guy... I've watched him since he was in Eredivisie. I don't know how to spell his name. He's overhyped by English media. That partly explains his price tag.
@@Zamunda-Ad what is the explanation for so many men obsessively watching English football when English men make them cry so badly? Don’t they have football in your country?
Big transfer fees, big wages and injury record. Classic United transfer. Last year it says he missed 20 games with a ligament injury and at Juve he missed half a season with a shoulder injury. Isnt it about time our medical team didnt need to work overtime.
Isn’t it weird that Man UTD have been heavily linked with 4 targets and still can’t complete 1 deal?
What’s going on?
CB with no obvious injury record should be our main priority now. Maybe later at last 2 weeks into closing transfer period, we could relook into this option. Should take lesson from last season.
God bless you, There are many injury free defender out there but we chose to be going for another injury prone player when we already have some couple of defender with injury history. Another excuse is piling up for TenHag
United can still sign Todibo. All we need do is approach another club in the championship or ligue1, have them sign todibo then loan him to to United. Next season, we complete the signing from the other club. Simple
Stop it. Please. We can't sign any Nice player directly OR indirectly. No player that is currently registered at Nice can join us no matter how you try to do it.
If we can sign him for around 40m & wages under 200k then he'd be a great signing. Still only 24 years old even tho it feels like he's been around for ages. I think under Ten Hag he'll get his career back on track. If this is an INEOS signing then I wonder if folk will criticise the signing due to signing yet another ex Ajax player???
De Ligt even not used in bayern, mostly on bench
If we get him for around 30-40mill I say go for it, otherwise paying around 55 mill for Braithwaite makes more sense
Hes young, He knows ETH Football, Hes an International. Why Not? Sign Him Up!
Why would they sell him if he's that good? Wages too expensive + lengthy injuries = bad value for money and UTD had far to much of that last season.
De ligt all the way he is way better than our current options plus we are forming some sort of dutch club so he will have the comfort of knowing that alot of dutch persons around!! Plus i think ruud will automatically lift the dressing room next season 💯
De Ligt is a fantastic defender. He is tenacious, aggressive and very good ball playing defender. But his tenure in Bayern was plague with ligament injury. If our medical team (we need to get a better one) give the green light, and of course, if he is affordable, like the in the region of 40-50mil, I think he is a player we can gamble on.
I know I am being unrealistic but I think we ought to spend out of the box and plan to do this transfer over two years. We probably are not going to be challenging for the title this year so let's build over two years with really quality players. Meanwhile, keep bringing the youth through...like Kambwala.
Why no one talking about calfiori?
Can play lb , cb
Good on posession , aerially dominant ,commanding
If Bayern does not want him, then generally he is on the downward spiral.
Man just read the reports. The quoted price is 40mil.
get down on the beach m8 forget United for a week enjoy your holiday sorry I can't join I am disabled and retired so money is tight stay safe looking forward to next season
The only thing am worried about delight is his injury records
what injury records r we talking here, hes 24, and has only 2 seasons where he missed more than 10 games
@@agitocraft72963 ligament injuries in the last 18 months. 2 seasons out of the last 3/4 he’s missed 20-30 games in each. His injury record for the wages he’s on is poor and even when he has played he’s been average.
And his 260k wages. I disagree with the signing but if we signed him gotta be positive y'know
He's reportedly available for closer to 30 million. The biggest red flag is his injury record. His wage demands are another issue. But he's got leadership qualities and experience. I've got concerns, but if he's willing to lower his wage demands I'd be okay with the deal.
50m or below, with slight decrease of wage, that is the requirement to make De Ligt worth to buy. i dont think skillwise he gonna fail by any means, he might not as good as Martinez, but he'll be Varane upgrade if we really play high up. His injury is not good, but not bad either, his worst injury was shoulder for 3 months 4 years ago, and last season knee for 40 days. he's gonna get injury here and there, a little bit worrying especially with our mess medical staff. there is off the pitch concern of course, but as a player, he worth the money.
Everyday I hear about Utd been linked to different players, when are we going to hit the ground running with signings?
Why we can't sell players who earned more than £250k a week over £50M. but we want to buy Delit 50 to 60M WITH over 260k a week on wages
I am a little bit iffy on the move because everyone is saying he is slow injury prone et cetera et cetera but I would say you don’t get a move to Juventus and buy a Munich if you’re a poor player sometimes do not work sometimes they’re falling out with managers is what reasons you don’t playbut if you were to get rid of Victor linda and Harry Maguire and bring Matias and Centre in my opinion is not😊
No! Wage demands too high. But would give us good leadership and experience at back. So all depends on Bayern price and agents fees.
Why would Bayern sell such a key player though?
Varane was a such a great signing but unfortunately only lasted 2 Seasons. I'm not sure Bayern would sell unless there were some injury/fitness concerns.
At this point I can safely conclude man utd is cursed!!!
De Ligt is an elite lvl CB. Be mad not to get him if we can get him for 50m
De light will flop so so bad.I dread the move so much that I'd much rather stick with Maguire
He shouldn't cost as much if he has requested to leave, not played regularly for a high class team off the back of an underperformed German league season, make it 37m + 5m add ons and you have my attention
Brother is still working hard ❤
If he will accept 200, and we sign him for £40-£43m, then is a good deal. Anything order than that, is a bad deal.
If we get De Ligt then our back up RCB will be Maguire who we can hopefully sell and get someone who will fit our game model better
Why aren't we looking at Calafiori?
we are but hes left footed and were already flirting with branthwaithe, were only gonna go for calafiori if the branthwaithe deal fall off
In general I would agree that if Bayern sells someone, it is not a good sign but this version of Bayern Munich is a mess.
Good player and still young but given the work that needs to be done across the squad I'm not sure it's the best use of budget.
De Ligt played at Juventus with Italy's best defenders, Chiellini and Bonuci. The intention was that young De Ligt would gradually take over their positions. But then Juve entered a financial crisis and De Ligt was sold because he was still worth a lot. De Ligt has not been used optimally at Bayern due to the many trainer changes. He does not fit into the system of the Dutch national team, which means he is not a regular player. But Van Dijk and De Vrij are higher in the ranking. But these players are also starting to get old.
Yes. Get him bought. I seen CZcamsrs say he's to slow for prem. EH?. Some of the best CB in prem history haven't had pace. To be a good CB you just need to be able to read the game.
I thought we’d get him when he left Ajax but isn’t he a bit injury prone? Certainly he would be a quality signing but with a hefty wage. We could do better.
Personally i believe we need a very fast CB to compliment martinez lack of speed
Matthijs De Ligt then. YES or NO? What’s your opinion?
Coin flip
Yes
Huge yes
Way better than brainwaite for me…
But would rather have ignacio he looks really good
YES!