Anyone Can Roast Coffee On The Roma Pro, But Is That A Good Thing?
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Just bought it, seems to be a very good product for me. Won't hurt to try out for every coffee lover
I'm sure you'll enjoy it!
This looks like an excellent product to get into roasting at home. My wife and I have been home roasting for about 14 years, and during most of that time it was with an air roaster, where you just time it after first crack and then start cooling the beans. It might not be perfect, but it's about 1/4 the cost of buying specialty roasted beans. The downside with these is that the plastic parts can become brittle, and the heater can become less effective.
We then moved to the Behmore, and it could do a pound at a time, but it needed a lot of babysitting. We now have the Kaffelogic Nano 7, and it's fantastic. I can use stock profiles or develop my own, and can roast 80g batches for cupping and perfecting the profile for a new bean. Once I've nailed it, I roast 160g batches, which might sound small, but with its temperature sensor and software, I can weigh the beans, put them in, push a button or two, and exactly repeat my roast. 15 minutes later, I dump it out, put in the next batch, and hit "play". During those 15 minutes, I can totally ignore it, empty the dishwasher, watch a CZcams video, or whatever. No babysitting required whatsoever. (I do stay in the area in case anything goes wrong, but I have yet to have any issue.)
So, if you want to develop profiles and have a perfect home workflow, the Kaffelogic is brilliant. If price is an issue, I might go for this one. Manual mode looks like a pain. Since it seems to lack a temperature probe, I'd probably go for Auto 3 or 4, listen for first crack, and manually end the roast. This way, you could set a timer, have some free time, and after 8 minutes or so, go to the machine to manually end the roast. The results should be very good, and it will save you lots of money, if you drink a lot of coffee!
That's what I was thinking - if you're a total coffee nerd this isn't the machine for you, but if you're a beginner and you want an easy way into roasting at home, it's pretty amazing what you can do for the price now.
I hear you and I hear what Jon says. The hard thing is that the coffee nerd is paying triple for that Nano on a machine that is essentially a sample roaster; it is really nice that this machine does 300g in. I wonder how it would compare to the freshroast series. My hardship is that I want repeatability and in the marketplace the only way I see to do that is upgrade my behmor and popcorn popper to a Nano. Are there other options? I want light to medium and the air roaster is I am told better than the drum for that usually. So, with repeatability in mind I see the Nano or the Nucleus (the nano is basically the same thing and far less money; yet I would be going from the 300g capability to a really expensive sample roaster for one reason - repeatability. I have always seen a glaring miss in the marketplace for a machine that is NOT a sample roaster and is priced for the home user in mind that offers repeatability. What am I missing? And is the Nano really worth it given it is triple the price? Jon thinks so, I would love to hear what others with experience think... @@homecafecharlie
@@ToddParker- I was also worried about the batch size, going from the Behmor to the Nano 7. It turns out not to be an issue most of the time, due to the âpress playâ workflow. The exception was before Christmas, when I was gifting coffee. But still, itâs about starting early enough, not free time, because it allows multitasking.
One advantage of the small size is when designing a new profile.
And definitely get the Boost option. It enables the ability to scale the profile to different sizes, as well as to use bigger batch sizes.
Any of these machines suit for business purposes? I'm thinking about selling 100 ~ 250 grams roasted coffee. Repeatability, capacity wise, etc. People here normally want to buy freshly roasted beans. Smaller batch roaster maybe what I need. Thank you.
The obvious business use for the Kaffelogic Nano 7 is as a portable sample roaster for roasting and cupping beans while determining what to buy in bulk.
Where it doesnât work well is for developing a roast that you want to transfer to a large, commercial roaster. It uses its own software, and air roasting is too different from drum roasting. For this, you want a sample roaster that mimics the big machine.
For small specialty bags direct to the customer, it could possibly work. You could have a âlibraryâ of green beans. They order a drink and a bag to go. You select the recipe for the bean, put in 160g, and press Play. They enjoy their drink, and 15 minutes later, they leave with a small bag.
My biggest batches are 160g. About 14% is boiled away, leaving just under 5oz of finished coffee. I limit it to 120g for some Ethiopian peaberry, yielding 3.6oz, or 100g.
One challenge is routing the smoke. A kitchen hood works well, but itâs noisy. A dryer vent hose, adapted to size, could work, but would it comply with local codes, when you vent it through a wall or ceiling?
And what happens when two or three customers order just-in-time coffee? You might need multiple machines.
Youâd probably sell these for $8 to $10 per bag. The greens would cost just under $3, and add $0.50 for the bag. Letâs call it $5 gross profit. 250 bags or so pays off the machine. Thatâs a bag a day for a year.
My first impression was that you have a lot of popcorn effect with your grinder, thx, the rabbit hole deepens.
This is similar to Fresh Roast 540/800 with couple of worthwhile upgrades such as constant temperature monitoring. Although FR also shows temperature with a flick of the knob. I don't think one can use same automatic preset for various beans of different densities and elevations. I struggle to get best result on FR540, after considerable amount of experimentation. I am purchasing Nucleus Link to overcome all my shortcomings. I think it's an reasonable priced product for what it can deliver.
No word on production yet as of May 2024 but they are still campaigning. Where did they get the demo models ?
What material is it made of and where is it made? Thank you!
It's mostly plastic with the roasting chamber being glass and the bottom of the chamber stainless steel.
I don't think I missed it but will you link the Brazilian beans you used? Thx
They were from Sidewalk Coffee Cambridge in the UK đ
Is there a way to interface it with Artisan or any other roast log software/app?
Not as far as I know. I think this roaster is aimed at home hobbyists just getting started ;)
Let me ask, is it controlled with buttons or flat touchscreen? I am blind and have been in search of an accessible home roaster. Currently, Iâm using a WeberÂź iGrillÂź Leave in probe and the iPhone app with a VKP stove top popper. Accessible enough, but Iâd like to have a little more control over the roast and lighter roasts are challenging with this method. Basically, could the unit be operated without having to look at it? Would it be possible to insert a Bluetooth probe? Be wired or wireless?
They are touch sensitive rather than buttons I'm afraid.
@@homecafecharlie Ah well. That sucks. Thanks for replyinggg.
How much time a 300g take at grade 2 approximatly ? Thanks for the review btw
About 9 and a half minutes or so. Just goes by itself, but I always keep an eye on it just in case.
@@homecafecharlie i have and hottop with artisan and i was wondering if the coffee was good enought on auto mode ? Im almost thinking about selling the hottop... it would be a downgrade probably but if the coffee is good its good
I backed this, but am having 2nd thoughts. How plausable is it that this product will reach end users?
I can't be certain either way as I know all crowdfunding things carry risk. Even though I have bigger roasters with more functions I still found myself using this one as it is so quick, you can just plug it in and auto roast, so if I have a lot to do I don't need to think about dedicating intense attention to a typical declining RoR roast manually. That's quite nice. I hope they succeed in making it, but like I said there are never any guarantees
Fancy popcorn popper.
Ya. And a Mercedes is a fancy Nissan Versa.
comparing it to kaleido do you think this roaster just as good?
Totally different use case. The Kaleido is for small roasteries or serious hobbyists. The Roma Pro is for beginners who just wanna roast green beans at home without the hassle. Different market for sure
If you cannot afford it, you can buy Medion MD10911 drum nut roaster. It roasts coffee beans without any problem, chaff is not flying all over the place because it is burned right after it flies off the beans. No heavy smoke is generated. Roaster costs something about 10$. I love that machine. You may also want to buy popcorn machine, but I find nut roaster way more convenient.
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