Finding Love in Ancient Rome

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Like so many other aspects of daily life in the ancient world, love in ancient Rome was both strikingly familiar and deeply strange...
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:42 Cupid
    1:20 Platonic love
    2:04 Love in literature
    2:45 Ovid's Art of Love
    3:35 FOREO
    4:40 Ovid's love advice
    5:48 Sulpicia and Petronius
    6:35 Severus and Successus
    7:17 Roman marriage
    8:03 Marriages, arranged and otherwise
    9:22 Love in the army
    9:43 Prostitution

Komentáře • 211

  • @QuantumHistorian
    @QuantumHistorian Před rokem +561

    I was going to say this video came out a day too late, but it's really 2000 years late, so what's a day more?

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem +466

    "There is no greater love than the one you find within your own family"
    *-Emperor Caligula, caring brother of three beautiful women*

    • @btchiaintkidding7837
      @btchiaintkidding7837 Před rokem +56

      sweet home alabama

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 Před rokem

      @@btchiaintkidding7837 Funny how you can make fun of the Deep South like that and nobody will care. If you looked at cousin marriages and inbreeding, you would see certain regions (South Asia and UK "immigrants") have much higher percentages but it is not PC to make jokes about them.

    • @gerryhouska2859
      @gerryhouska2859 Před rokem +28

      As the saying goes, "Incest makes the heart grow fonder".

    • @CaraTheStrange
      @CaraTheStrange Před rokem +11

      Always keep the best genes in the family! 😂

    • @OptimusMaximusNero
      @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem +6

      ​@@btchiaintkidding7837
      More likely "We Are One" by Lydia Van Huston (from the OST of the 1979 Caligula movie) in this case. It's a pretty good song, to be honest. Here are the lyrics:
      We are one
      Hold me close
      Let me feel your arms around me
      Our love transcends all time
      We'll never part
      Can't you feel my love inside your heart
      A brother to me you'll always be
      Love so deep it let us be free
      You're part of me
      We are one, and they say
      Created by the same father
      Our love transcends all time
      Our souls are joined together
      We will never part
      Can't you feel my love inside your heart
      Many a lover you know
      If your love is the one from which I've grown
      You're not alone
      We are one
      Hold me close
      Let me feel your arms around me
      Our love transcends all time
      We'll always be together
      We will never part
      We are one
      Hold me close
      Let me feel your arms around me
      Our love transcends all time
      Our souls are joined together
      We will never part
      Because we are one
      We are one
      We are one!

  • @omnijack
    @omnijack Před rokem +337

    Absolutely award-winning humor in this one

    • @2552legoboy
      @2552legoboy Před rokem +23

      The way he doesnt change his tone of voice during the jokes gets me everytime.

    • @milztempelrowski9281
      @milztempelrowski9281 Před rokem +8

      Where is that hilarious salty-ness coming from? I love it!

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian Před rokem +11

      @@milztempelrowski9281 He's secretly half British, I'm sure of it.

  • @RotneybotOfficial
    @RotneybotOfficial Před rokem +129

    As a time traveler who is down on his luck with dating apps, this is very useful. Thank you toldinstone. Very cool.

    • @User61918
      @User61918 Před 11 měsíci +4

      jus go back in time to neanderthalic times and smash humanoids like i do.

    • @49558201
      @49558201 Před 4 měsíci

      Vietnam was a real trip without acid , Acuna , Mexico is even more deadly. !

  • @texasRoofDoctor
    @texasRoofDoctor Před rokem +96

    Ovids guide to love is pretty funny. He literally says to lie to women, promise them random stuff, and have multiple mistresses.

    • @SPQRcat
      @SPQRcat Před 11 měsíci +12

      Idk why but I think this would work

    • @SPQRcat
      @SPQRcat Před 11 měsíci +25

      Update: It works

    • @mard9802
      @mard9802 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@SPQRcat it works if you want a high turn over rate ; )

  • @lorddervish212quinterosara6

    "age is just a number"
    -Classical Greeks

    • @anthroimperzia3927
      @anthroimperzia3927 Před 4 měsíci +4

      You have to remember that pederastic relationships in ancient greece were meant to be educational, and not sexual, of which if it were, the offender was usually punish harshly, even by death. (The same was in Rome)
      If you're talking about arranged marriage, that is another story, and is simply to try and plan ahead so that when the partners do come of age, they are set for their much shorter lives.

    • @lorddervish212quinterosara6
      @lorddervish212quinterosara6 Před 4 měsíci

      @@anthroimperzia3927 Yeah I was just poking fun at it

    • @bigfatchubbybritboy9445
      @bigfatchubbybritboy9445 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Robertum Kellysius

  • @wauliepalnuts6134
    @wauliepalnuts6134 Před rokem +44

    Gives new meaning to Veni, Vidi , Vici.

  • @daveandrew589
    @daveandrew589 Před rokem +79

    I never thought Roman history could be so funny. Well done.

    • @denissmith7671
      @denissmith7671 Před 11 měsíci +1

      If that’s funny, I wonder what will be said about our times in a couple thousand years xD

  • @FOXNEWSDEATHCULT
    @FOXNEWSDEATHCULT Před rokem +37

    about political marriages... once, to tie himself into Cato the younger's family, a guy called quintus hortensius convinced cato to divorce his wife so he could marry her. For some reason he agreed, and then when hortensius died he remarried her. insanely weird interpersonal relationships in rome

    • @enes8574
      @enes8574 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Don't forget the part that he got rich afterwards after getting hortensius's fortunes.

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 Před rokem +12

    Romehub......
    😂🤣
    The good doctor is feeling extra humorous today!

  • @mtathos_
    @mtathos_ Před rokem +26

    I've started to say along "Naked Statues, fat Gladiators and war Elephants" the name itself seemingly is effective marketing lol. I haven't bought it yet, but I will definitely get it eventually!

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem +64

    Roman: "I'm in love, Caesar"
    Domitian: "Congratulations, son of Romulus! What cult does the lucky girl pray to, by the way?"
    Roman: "Vesta, Caesar..." 😉
    Domitian: 🤬

  • @bethwilliams4903
    @bethwilliams4903 Před rokem +18

    Now now, I just ordered your book AND I love your long interviews! My area is Medieval (particularly 1300-1500) so I’m wayyyyy out of my normal sphere but your sense of humour and lovely manner, your topics and all around love for the classics has charmed me, what can I say?!

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem +40

    6:36 Am I the only one who finds kinda poetic that one of the protagonists of the love story about two guys fighting to death to get the prize is called Severus?

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 Před rokem +11

    That bear thing seems pretty effective, even on aged stone.

  • @Lucius1958
    @Lucius1958 Před rokem +28

    *"Ovid's a rake, as half his verses show him;*
    *Anacreon's morals are a still worse sample;*
    *Catullus scarcely has a decent poem;*
    *I don't think Sappho's Ode a good example,*
    *Although Longinus tells us there is no hymn*
    *Where the Sublime soars on wings more ample;*
    *But Virgil's songs are pure, except that horrid one*
    *Beginning with **_Formosam pastor Corydon_** ."*
    - Byron, _Don Juan_

  • @samuelmoore668
    @samuelmoore668 Před rokem +5

    Never felt so called out when I was googling those Lupinar frescos

  • @brandonchavez9924
    @brandonchavez9924 Před rokem +8

    These romantic era paintings of Rome have put quite a spell on me.
    Anyone know the artist? Or names of the paintings?

    • @Floreal78
      @Floreal78 Před rokem

      Do a googlesearch for "Henryk Siemiradzki" to find several of them.

    • @josephbrandenburg4373
      @josephbrandenburg4373 Před 9 měsíci

      John William Godward, Lawrence Alma Tadema, William Adolphe Bougereau, Jean-Léon Gérôme, etc. etc. but I think most of these are by Godward.

  • @mm-yt8sf
    @mm-yt8sf Před rokem +6

    omg i was worried the sponsor was going to be for an electrical...marital aid 🙂

  • @aletheia3
    @aletheia3 Před rokem +11

    I was crying laughing the whole way thru this... Thanks, I needed that!

  • @jonathanjochem7289
    @jonathanjochem7289 Před rokem +20

    I love the Foreo before/after facials. But I think Dr. Ryan's Romans Only fan page would do really well!

  • @mariagordanier3404
    @mariagordanier3404 Před rokem +9

    That was fun! Seriously amusing stuff. Many thank-yous!

  • @John_Fugazzi
    @John_Fugazzi Před rokem +10

    This was very fun, and the illustrations so well chosen.

  • @TheBuriedLedeR
    @TheBuriedLedeR Před rokem +3

    Excellent CZcams channel. Relevant and interesting information presented in a, at times, tongue-in-cheek manner.

  • @SobekLOTFC
    @SobekLOTFC Před rokem +3

    Great job, per usual, Garrett 👏

  • @larsrons7937
    @larsrons7937 Před rokem +5

    Interesting topic. I will take this knowledge with me on my planned time machine trip to ancient Rome, inspired by your three guide book programs a couple of years ago.

  • @williamharris8367
    @williamharris8367 Před rokem +6

    This video is entertaining, educational, and funny! Thank-you for improving my day.

  • @fairey555
    @fairey555 Před rokem +1

    great video as always!

  • @CarthagoMike
    @CarthagoMike Před rokem +2

    great mini-documentary as always!

  • @VictoriaMaxima
    @VictoriaMaxima Před rokem +9

    Severus and Successus don’t seem to understand that, as a barmaid, Iris was just trying to get a bigger tip.

  • @Lisa-ol1ih
    @Lisa-ol1ih Před rokem +2

    One of your best videos!

  • @LadyNord
    @LadyNord Před rokem +3

    I love your videos so much. The humor is top tier. XD

  • @tribunateSPQR
    @tribunateSPQR Před rokem +16

    Great work! Roman attitudes towards love and romance highlight how much we have in common with them as well as just how divergent our culture And values are

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions Před rokem +36

    All through history around the world, romantic love is a rare luxury after all, even when material needs are met. So you can't expect much of that in Rome where most ppl barely made ends meet.

  • @johnspizziri1919
    @johnspizziri1919 Před rokem +2

    I watch your other channels and got the book!! Bravissimo!

  • @keithagn
    @keithagn Před rokem +2

    Great video! I have to admit when I read the title I thought "Whoa! Where is he goin' with this?!" Thank you! :)

  • @weilandiv8310
    @weilandiv8310 Před rokem +44

    Back then, following your true love around town unawares, was called a crush, not stalking.

    • @justwastingtimeonyt9952
      @justwastingtimeonyt9952 Před rokem +24

      We're in love, she just doesn't know it yet 😊😊😊

    • @enotsnavdier6867
      @enotsnavdier6867 Před rokem +15

      And it was just as fucked up then as it is now

    • @justwastingtimeonyt9952
      @justwastingtimeonyt9952 Před rokem +1

      @@enotsnavdier6867 not always, could actually be innocent. We're just surrounded by so much perversion these days that we assume the worst. It's weird and concerning but not fucked up

    • @May-ky4lu
      @May-ky4lu Před rokem +11

      I got stalked once, it's was not very romantic and he just stopped when i freked out and screamed at his face

    • @enotsnavdier6867
      @enotsnavdier6867 Před rokem +3

      @just wasting time on yt Following someone is not innocent. Even if the person following has no intention to do anything, it's still incredibly fucked up

  • @kingrhino11
    @kingrhino11 Před rokem +2

    Love your videos

  • @dersitzpinkler2027
    @dersitzpinkler2027 Před rokem +4

    The editor really had fun with this one lol. Great work

  • @robertr.hasspacher7731

    Dude amazing video, like always. So funny too!!!

  • @macpduff2119
    @macpduff2119 Před 18 dny

    I just discovered your wonderful channel and have been binge watching your videos all morning. Of course I subbed!

  • @EnergyKnife
    @EnergyKnife Před rokem +3

    How did I not know that toldinstone literally had the jawline of a roman statue

  • @PHJoy
    @PHJoy Před 11 měsíci +1

    Well, this is quite enlightening! I was amused as I stumbled across your channel today (Does size matter?) and subscribed right away, but this particular video really got me since part of it reflected a portion of this crazy intense dream I had this morning. Thank you for sharing your great work and clever humour!

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem +20

    Speaking of Ovid, his best work about love is "Phyramus and Thisbe", the story of the forbidden and tragic relationship between two young Babylonians whose families maintain a fierce rivalry between them. Too bad that story was plagiarized centuries later by a presumptuous Briton...

  • @LisaHutchins-zu4yy
    @LisaHutchins-zu4yy Před rokem +1

    This guy is so funny. The commercial is priceless.

  • @UguysRnuts
    @UguysRnuts Před rokem +3

    "There may be a correlation between humor and sex. The need for more research is clearly indicated." ~Lt Cmdr Data

  • @123canadagirl
    @123canadagirl Před rokem

    I just ordered your book a few days ago.

  • @leandrotami
    @leandrotami Před rokem

    haha besides the main subject of your videos I am also enjoying your sense of humor

  • @juliousceaser
    @juliousceaser Před rokem +1

    Very nice

  • @dasmysteryman12
    @dasmysteryman12 Před rokem +2

    I like the new intro!

  • @JSCRocketScientist
    @JSCRocketScientist Před 11 měsíci

    Got a good laugh. But accurate and um always wondered. Thank you for the information!

  • @KamikazeKatze666
    @KamikazeKatze666 Před rokem +3

    Aaah, those were the times when our Latin teacher would read Ovid with us!

  • @mike-0451
    @mike-0451 Před rokem +2

    Need a romance set in ancient times.

  • @laurachapple6795
    @laurachapple6795 Před 5 měsíci

    I saw the frescoes in person when I visited Pompeii with an archaeology class. We decided they were the equivalent of the picture menus at those little restaurants in Manhattan, where you walk in, point to the sign, and say "I want a number two."

  • @MrSilviut
    @MrSilviut Před rokem +2

    I know I love this video

  • @theClaytron
    @theClaytron Před rokem +2

    the lick intro!

  • @joanacifre9169
    @joanacifre9169 Před 11 měsíci +2

    We read fragments of ars amatoria in latin class and we cackled the whole hour, it's too funny

  • @MonkeyBars1
    @MonkeyBars1 Před rokem +3

    What are all those beautiful paintings? They look Pre-Raphaelite

    • @Sasa-dv9ie
      @Sasa-dv9ie Před rokem +1

      Most of them are. 6:49 painting is Godward's "In the Days of Sapho".

  • @nunyabiznes33
    @nunyabiznes33 Před rokem +2

    4:18 I lost my nose but at least my skin is smoother now. Thanks Foreo!

  • @advance600
    @advance600 Před rokem +1

    It's been a while since I tuned in. Has your intro always been the lick on a lyre?

  • @Iloveroullette97gambler
    @Iloveroullette97gambler Před rokem +4

    Many thanks for the valentines day video! my wife and i love your content.
    This is off subject but i hope someone will read it. Could anyone tell me what book it was that he showed us in a video that had "the knights of the round cheese"
    I would like to know the name of that book so i can buy it.

  • @ALLSTARDECOURO2
    @ALLSTARDECOURO2 Před 11 měsíci

    10:16 just as a came back from my google image search, lol

  • @nhopkins
    @nhopkins Před rokem +4

    The tune at the beginning is the same note progression as "The Lick" in jazz (a sort of recurring auditory joke)! Had me in stitches!
    Here's what I mean: czcams.com/video/krDxhnaKD7Q/video.html

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love crossed all boundaries in Ancient Rome

  • @loopernoodling
    @loopernoodling Před rokem +2

    Next recommend after this video was 'Dating the Great Pyramid' by David Miano.
    Of course he was discussing how to establish its age, but in the context of this video, it made me look twice!

  • @ditzygypsy
    @ditzygypsy Před rokem

    I am confused about the ad. Is it a real thing?! 😂😂 It sure was funny!

  • @thedinkledog4356
    @thedinkledog4356 Před rokem

    @toldinstone you should do a video about Cincinnatus and his story

  • @keremyaellandman5407
    @keremyaellandman5407 Před rokem

    1:42 - reminds me of Hedwig and the Angry Inch's "The Origin Of Love"

  • @flamencoprof
    @flamencoprof Před rokem +3

    I would love to know whose work are the "marble bench" paintings, some are quite humorous.
    Edit: It is John William Godward (1861 - 1922) an English painter.

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 Před rokem +2

    "statistically speaking, have never watched". Well, "seldom" is more apt, but I'll try to correct that. I did watch the recent valuable coin-cleaning video, quite good (*****).

  • @SplendidFellow
    @SplendidFellow Před rokem +3

    Buy Garrett's book, folks! It's great! If you like these videos you'll like his book!

  • @GabiN64
    @GabiN64 Před 3 měsíci

    Someone back then:
    The Roman apocalypse is more likely than me finding love

  • @terrayyowo
    @terrayyowo Před rokem

    @toldinstone Is it possible that an oarfish could have washed up on shore once?, the creature at 1:00 looks similar to one.

  • @phoule76
    @phoule76 Před rokem +3

    ha, "Nerds", how well he knows us

  • @SS-ku3xz
    @SS-ku3xz Před 8 měsíci

    You know why I haven’t subscribed or watched any of your other channels? I’m inept. I see the two squares appear when you mention them but they’re not links. How can I get to them? I’ve only been using CZcams since 2010

  • @callenclarke371
    @callenclarke371 Před 3 měsíci

    Fun!

  • @rundbaum
    @rundbaum Před rokem +2

    i am pretty sure that 'romely fans' would get ZERO followers but only b/c it wouldn't resonate in our wonderful, 21st century culture. i LOVE the 3d intro w/the channel thumbnail!! . . .

  • @CVB-pl8wr
    @CVB-pl8wr Před 8 měsíci

    Would love to know the name of the artist who painted the scene on the bench with the water in the background

  • @bingobongo9521
    @bingobongo9521 Před rokem

    I love how very unconvincingly he presents the products of his sponsors 😆 How good that he does not work in marketing!

  • @gabrielcastilho1879
    @gabrielcastilho1879 Před rokem

    Curiously Ovid also wrote "Medicamina Faciei Femineae", a didatic poem on the use of cosmetics by Roman Women. In this video, the opus was properly alluded through the sponsor words.

  • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
    @user-jv9qz2bu1r Před 6 měsíci

    can you produce a video on the Romantic artists that painted scenes from the Ancient world

  • @feffe4036
    @feffe4036 Před rokem +1

    Where did you get all those fascinating paintings in the video?

    • @keithagn
      @keithagn Před rokem

      You mean the ones he couldn't show us?!

    • @feffe4036
      @feffe4036 Před rokem +2

      @@keithagn no i have seen those irl. I mean the romanticised roman scenes all thru the video

    • @feffe4036
      @feffe4036 Před rokem

      @@Tonysopranoyafinook thanks!

  • @CrazyBrosCael
    @CrazyBrosCael Před rokem +2

    Rizzicus Maximus

  • @starcapture3040
    @starcapture3040 Před rokem

    Can you make video about Rome conquest of Yemen?

  • @Navak_
    @Navak_ Před rokem +2

    you are hilarious my guy

  • @MonkeyBars1
    @MonkeyBars1 Před rokem +1

    Not surprised to see some more musicians here. Indeed that intro is The Lick

  • @keenanmeril8825
    @keenanmeril8825 Před rokem +2

    "On that note, while you search for those images..."
    Shut up I'm doing research
    XD

  • @AlphonseZukor
    @AlphonseZukor Před rokem +2

    I remember reading Ovid when I was teenager, and that is where I learned that my generation did not in fact invent sex.

  • @Mattdewit
    @Mattdewit Před rokem +11

    I am following a course on the Roman Familia and am considering to write an essay about marriage. I would like to explore the age of marraige and the choice of a marriage partner that you discussed. Do you have any good primary or secendary sources for this topic?

    • @toldinstone
      @toldinstone  Před rokem +10

      The best secondary source is Susan Treggiari's Roman Marriage

    • @Mattdewit
      @Mattdewit Před rokem

      @@toldinstone Thank you

  • @AndroChimera
    @AndroChimera Před rokem

    can you make a video about art? i'm very interested i all these artwork you show in your videos!!

    • @lisadavis4133
      @lisadavis4133 Před rokem +1

      He shows many works by Sir Lawrence Alma-Tedama, a 19th century artist.

  • @T4vion
    @T4vion Před rokem

    I need to know what was the last Roman triumph

  • @polarperlen
    @polarperlen Před rokem +1

    I saw a painting of a dude in Pompei. He was weighing something much heavier than gold...

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 Před rokem +1

    I thank my son for being born on Feb 14th... It's a get out of valentine's day free card!

  • @brentfarvors192
    @brentfarvors192 Před 11 měsíci

    LoL: "Eventually, Zuess got fed up with this" = "Stuff it, we're getting laid tonight!!!"

  • @ruthc8407
    @ruthc8407 Před rokem

    That's SAINT Valentine's Day.

  • @amazin7006
    @amazin7006 Před rokem +1

    The hairstyles look pretty cool, would be interesting to see a video on that

  • @paulkoza8652
    @paulkoza8652 Před rokem

    Where did the art come from?

  • @blvp2145
    @blvp2145 Před rokem

    "Buy her flowers or die alone" 😆

  • @zacktube100
    @zacktube100 Před rokem

    At 5:01, I think that's there plenty small talk to make about that horse that is going to wreck everyone else. Pfff.

  • @random22026
    @random22026 Před 11 měsíci

    1:23 You want LOVE? Well, HERE IT IS
    2:45 Portrait of Ovid, you say? Not even close.
    6:35 The dread 1800s has put Abe on a pedestal again (far right)
    7:20 A marble pastiche, and not a very good one