1966 Jaguar E Type 4.2 Goes for a Drive
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- In 1966 Jaguar upped the 3.8 litre XK engine in the E Type to 4.2 and made a few other changes to the iconic sports car. Today I take a Series 1 Jaguar E Type 4.2 2+2 for a drive
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I owned a 2+2 for 50 years, it was never so loud as this one with exhaust or engine noise, in fact people were disappointed because it was so quiet and the ride was silky smooth and comfortable unlike what was expected of a sports car of the period. The rear window switch and indicator was for a heated rear window, one of only two extra options when new, that and chrome wire wheels. Regarding luggage space the top of the rear seats hinged forward to give increased space if required provided no rear passengers were carried.
Not nit-picking just enjoyed the video which brought back happy memories.
The noise level in the test car is mainly from the induction - those six Weber throats can develop quite a raucous sucking noise when you give it the beans. The standard triple SUs were much quieter and more refined.
Owen H )
Thankyou for that
While it's nice to see a person go through the car for the " first time" it's also great to hear from a time served owner👍
Funnily enough that's my recollection of the e-Type I travelled in once. It was actually a pretty refined, comfortable thing. Definitely more of a GT than an out-and-out sports car like a LOTUS would be, or possibly just from an era when a "sports car" was expected to be daily-usable. The car I was driven around in had a definitely muted snarl to it when it accelerated hard but most of the time it was actually quiet and refined (adaptable to the driver's intentions - which is how a car should be!) - this thing is far more like an American "muscle car".
I'm not expert but I think the car here is at least lightly modified. Pretty sure those carbs and filters are not stock and those tyres and wheels look wider than most e-types I've seen. It's in beautiful condition - I remember when these could be picked up for beans (and cost bullion to keep!).
@@Rapscallion2009 In the 70s and 80s E Types were very affordable. This owing to the false reputation that they were unreliable and expensive to maintain. Neither was correct. Unless, you had yours service or repaired by independent shops or the dreaded PO.
Owned the 2+2 version..1968 vintage.....what a car! The long bonnet, the noise and the feeling of sitting in a British piece of motoring art made me drive it everyday and I think in doing that it kept the E-Type fresh. I went from Devon to Yorkshire and achieved 28 mpg sticking to 70-80 mph so it wasn't too bad on petrol, anyway why own one if you worry about petrol.
On the way back I remember jostling with a Porsche Boxter for over a 100 miles and having a bit of fun roaring past a couple of times..my car was over 40 years old even then and could have given him a clean pair of heels if it wasn't for speed limits! Oh the fun...
Yes I used to drive mine hard as well, great days.
My dream car, - I was offered one in the 80's for 12k, like an idiot I turned it down, been kicking myself ever since.
In the USA in the 80's that was a typical price
In about 1979 my Dad was in the market for a car to replace his Renault 12 and there was a Jag E-Type on the dealer's forecourt for £3000 and he seriously considered buying it. Dad decided the fuel consumption would be too high and replaced the Renault 12 with another new Renault 12 for £3500 (the car I Iearned to drive in). He later bought a Lancia Beta coupe (cool car) which then rotted faster than the Renaults.
@@rcpmac You would see them in scrapyards in the 80s.
Another tidy video. I propose that the "tea shelf" is to Furious driving what the "triangle of doom" is to Hubnut.
We need a T Shelf T Shirt!
@@PaddyWV I cant, its copyrighted!
And if he points at a cup holder or any tea containment vessel stabilisation area Ill see him in court!
Re wipers I felt cheated also. Ian's in Australia a flip of the wipers would be cool he would never find out lol.
Love the shape of the car - always did. And that straight-six sounds just amazing.
Vastly better looking as an open roadster...
I've always thought that the 2+2 shape was not as nice as the 2 seater. I came across a recently restored drop head coupe around 10 years ago and my heart started to beat faster and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. My flesh was tingling. Such a beautiful thing. It was a similar reaction to meeting a beautiful red-head. Sorry, ladies, but it's a physiological response.
@@roadie3124 - 1st Gen. roadster looked the best (with top down)... went down hill quickly after that...
@@BuzzLOLOL You have a point. The changes required for USA safety regs (big bumpers, removal of headlight fairing, raised height, etc.) certainly made the front end less appealing, but the rear end still looked good, particularly the 3/4 view where the rounded shape of the haunches looked so good. I consider them to be callipygian.
That dent on the car nose, I cant stop staring at it...
Back in 1974, I bought my first car -- a 1966 E-Type Roadster -- for a $2600, or accounting for inflation around $16k today. Yes, they were very affordable back then. The sound of that long stroke straight 6 really was beautiful, as it had not only mufflers, but "resonators" which I assume helped give it that deep growl. Personally, I prefer the stock triple SU HD8 setup; they were beautiful to behold, and as a gear head I so loved the elegant simplicity of the SU carb. My preferences were for the looks of the Roadster, then 2 seater coupe, and least the 2+2 (the bump in the roof detracted from the looks for me). With that long hood / bonnet plus the fact that you were sitting so low, pulling out of a driveway, trying to look around parked cars for any oncoming traffic, was a harrowing experience. That said, to quote my Brit friend, I would give my starboard knacker to have that car again.
When Enzo Ferrari called the E-Type the most beautiful car in the world he was not talking about a 2 + 2.
Of course that's just my opinion. 🤐
HubNut in a 911 and Furiousdriving in an E Type! You chaps are spoiling us. I think you quite enjoyed that car Matt. Wonderful piece of British Automotive art. Many thanks.
If only they were our own cars! Im sure normal service will be resumed with £400 Rovers next week!
Exactly...Fighter plane....the spitfire of the roads...great description....
Excellent, but a missed opportunity to explain the changes necessary to become a 2+2. So here you go- The E-Type 2+2 was launched in 1966. It was a longer wheelbase version of the fixed-head coupe (by nine inches) to fit two (small) rear seats in. The angle of the A pillars was also altered and the roof line raised a bit.
Of the 38,419 Series 1 (and 1.5) E-Types made in total, only 5,599 were the 2+2, so they are always going to be a bit of a rare sight.
When I was young (turn of the century) every vintage car was surprisingly affordable. I bought a decent running and driving 66' p1800s for $2200 in 2006 but I also remember the hardtop etypes being no where near the prices they are today. Oh well.
I also remember going to a yard sale and finding a 68' Camaro project for $800.
A work of art - totally!
There's a BLACK series one coupe in the New York Metropolitan Art Museum. !!!!!
I love your enthusiasm, it makes your videos so watchable.
2+2 isn’t quite as attractive, but even with that said it’s still absolutely beautiful.
Battle scar
..............2+2 absolutely ruined the most beautiful car ever made!!
I remember in 1966 when I was 6 in zambia and saw one that was there. It was as if the aliens had arrived. It belonged to Ralph rixon a race horse trainer.
That supposedly ‘crude’ sub-frame for the engine was actually very advanced WW2 aircraft technology.
And was how ALL the planes we know and love - Mosquito, Lancaster, Spitfire, Hurricane etc - mounted their engines.
Malcolm Sayer, the designer, brought it with him from the Bristol Aircraft Co.
Yes, it is clever aircraft technology, as mentioned in the video Sayer came from Bristol, but it looks like a Meccano set, and so do many pre Vulcan aircraft with the skin removed! If you are able to get to Brooklands in Surrey the Wellington bomber which has no skin is an eye opener
@@furiousdriving Wellington bomber. Geodesic frame. Very strong and capable of withstanding massive damage, but still fly. I could've bought a '66 BRG 2+2 manual 3.8 E type for NZ$30K 5 years ago. Didn't. Now worth $100,000. In '64 I sat in the 'back' of a primrose E type coupe. Got me into cars from then on. That car was new, and some yobbo coined it. Owner dismantled his car and started again. Cliff Dale...made his fortune making wooden clothes hangers.
If ever there was art on wheel's it's the E Type Jaguar. What a magnificent car.
For anyone curious, the lovely location with the lake is Hatchet Pond near Beaulieu in the New Forest. A great place to stop for a sandwich with a nice view, perhaps while your there to visit the museum. A bit further down the road is Beaulieu Heath, and the remains of a WW2 airfield, which is now used for RC Aircraft flying.
Like a Spitfire on four wheels - Great quote.
An E Type accelerating is the most awe inspiring sounds known to man. What a noise!
And to add, that low rear squat when you nail the throttle.
Pleasure to meet you once again. Sorry if our van ruined your shots. Seems like you had a good day filming.
Jacob *the guy with the mavic mini)
Great to meet you to, and dont worry it wasnt in shot. Thanks for showing us the Mavic, I've got to get one of those to keep in my bag!
The jaguar face on is called the 'Growler', the side on full cat is the 'Leaper' 🤓
CZcams would de-monetize the channel if I said that!
@@furiousdriving 😂😂👍
Worked at a jag dealership for 26yrs ,driven plenty of those ,great lookin car . great content!!!!!!
Having owned two '67 2+2 automatics (w/bulletproof Borg-Warner 3-speed): early (with glass), and late (without) my '67 E-types with a twin-cam, aluminum head, triple-carb, straight-six hemi, with independent rear suspension, 265 hp, having speeds in excess of 150 mph (on a hill) with torsion bar stability, and produced 20+ mpg, that car blew the doors off of 80's mustangs, camaros and firebirds. The longer wheelbase (10" longer than the roadster) also made it a good highway ride. Not to mention the most beautiful sculpture on wheels according to Enzo Ferrari.
This, together with the Jensen Interceptor 3, are 2 of the most beautiful cars ever built.
I worked on both when employed by British Motors of Monterey ( Calif) I recall The Interceptor required custom mad fiberglass fender covers to be in place during servicing.
I was very fortunate in the 1960s at the age of 17 (in Central Africa) to drive an E Type 3.8 roadster belonging to a bachelor colleague of my Dad. This guy had a Moggie for everyday use and the E Type for the couple of days after pay day and hot dates! Unforgettable experience. I had a (wreck of a) TR2 at the time, my first car, so I was no stranger to British sports cars, but the E Type was a different level entirely.
Nice review. Good to see you 'get' the E Type. I've had my 4.2 S1 for 21 years now. Been over the Alps four times. Once drove from Milan to Dorset in 24 hours. I think probably the greatest car made still. A keeper for me, along with a Mk1 Mini.
Yes! You need to use them and enjoy them, get out and drive! Thats a great pair to choose from
Oh for Godas sake. Its an old car... greatest car ever made? BS.
@@redtvproductions1 I'm happy with my statement thanks.
One of these appeared on the industrial estate where I work recently - it turned out to be the owner's daily and has been for the past 40 years. Patina like you've never seen, but clearly cared for and enjoyed.
Fantastic review, great car. My father had a flat floor & V12 back in the 80’s, when the scrap yards where full of them and parts where cheap and plentiful. You just about had to be a part time mechanic to keep these things on the road.
Absolutely glorious video on a fabulous car. You didn't leave a single stone unturned. What a car.
The E-Type has been a childhood dream car and still is ! The looks the noise it is just amazing but unfortunately nowadays the prices for these have skyrocketed
Oh yeah! That's the one we all want. I think I'm correct in saying that the sunroof would have been a dealer fit option. I got to ride shiotgun in an E type once. I wasn't allowed to drive which I have to say was probably a good idea on the owners part. I will never forget that half an hour of total joy. Excellent video. Thanks so much. Oh yeah, an Aston DB4 would be a truly awesome alterantive. Way more money of course.
These drive way nicer than the DB4, but thats a stunning machine to look at
Just great. I go all gooey when I see an e type just something you can’t put into words and I really have to drive one.
The best looking car Jaguar has ever made by far a great review thanks driving round my part of the world.The New Forest roads used to be used by the car magazines to do a lot of their road tests before the speed limits were dropped from 60 to 40 mph this was done to try stop the ponies being rundown sadly it still a regularly occurrence
I can see why they made it all 40, but they are great roads. Bloomin' horses...
Absolutely my favourite car when I was a kid in the 1960's! I remember that I had a blue Corgi die-cast Jaguar E-Type with opening doors and rear hatch, moveable front seats and folding rear backrest. It was the only E-Type I ever owned unfortunately!
I was going to say
" You Lucky Bastard "! But was beaten to it !
ps ...One of your best Reviews yet
Joseph Lloyd is a proper gentleman and an astute vehicular consultant in tweed.
We aim to please, sir!
I had a 67 version of this exact car in Navy Blue with Light Grey leather. I really wanted a drop head, but being 6'2", I could not get a decent driving position. I could not believe how quick it was, and several times I had the speedo needle past the high beam blue light. That's 160mph+ according to the speedometer. Without power steering it was very tricky to park in tight situations, but on the open roads, and the motorways it was a treat to drive.
Definitely can hear those Webers doing their thing. Certainly a unique sound. The XK is a great engine, owned and worked on a few. Been around E-Types a few years and you can’t help but be stared at by other motorists when you’re in them. They are glorious and that over-bonnet view rising and falling through the gears is something else...although I struggle to fit nicely in an E-Type, I’ve got a good friend that has two, and his are very nice.
For some unknown reason CZcams decided to re-show me this video from back in the day which alighted me on your channel in the first place. And now I know why. The suggestion that an T-shelf or a cup holder might be a useful addition to a car as perfect as an E-type - really! The next time your door bell rings it could well be from the Jaguar Mafia and you may have to re-locate to Scotland or worse (if that's even possible).
I bought the Monogram 1/8 scale plastic model of the E-type, and buildt it when I was in my teens, it had workable window cranks and steering as well as suspension with real springs. Unfortunatly the wheel axles on these where the soft point as they easily broke when you demonstrated the suspension. I've allways loved the six cylinder with it's much better look than the later V12, I will never drive one as I would't fit inside it, but still it is the best looking car I know!
Was catching up on Joseph Lloyd's back catalogue because he mentioned the E Type on his recent 2000 subscribers videos. Couldn't resist returning here because, Soundtrack. A cross between a fighter plane and a truck, in a good way. Descriptive Genius.
Love the comment about "if your weekend goes horribly wrong" :-) What a stunning car!
You need to be prepared for any eventuality!
Transmission tunnel is wider because it used to be an auto, now converted to manual, switch is for hrw, an extra, an e type is the only classic that I've had that was a pleasure to drive, compared to p1800s, mgbs, interceptor, rovers, triumphs (that I've owned as well) they still feel modern.
Fantastic car
Thanks for bringing me along for the ride
Nick Australia
E-Type is iconic like Deep Purple's "Smoke on the water". It's just classic hard-rock on wheels!
I have great memories of driving my grandad's '64 E-Type. It's currently getting restored. It's kind of a shame they're worth so much now, you can't get them out and really enjoy them anymore.
Great its getting restored but you should use it. As one guy I met on a road challenge said after red lining his E Type for miles "If you can fix it once you can fix it twice, you have to use these things!". Id prefer not to fix it again but I take his point
The E type is a beautiful car the says "drive me". I know a few people who do.
Oh my goodness me, sir! We do look like something out of the 1960s sitting in the car together. It was a phenomenal day, wasn't it? Thanks again for filming my review, I am looking forward to that one too.
Yes, Ill be interested to see how that compares - who looks happiest to to be driving it?
@@furiousdriving, that's going to be hard, you do have quite a pleased expression on your face!
I’m lucky enough to own a S1 convertible and it is great to drive and my seats are very comfortable. The main drawback with an E is leg room. If you are over 5’10” you will struggle. A drive on a sunny day in the Chilterns is heavenly.
It looks and sounds amazing, and I want one!
Now who do I talk to about a second mortgage🤔
Just hire one for the day, it'll work out better!
I put a round dent on the front of my dark blue 66 E type in 1971 just bought it and came up to a Morris minor with a tow bar ball at a set of traffic lights yep forgot how long it was put a nice round dent right in the middle on the front of the bonnet, sick was an understatement, l actually went on to own a red 3.8 and another yellow 4.2 with a set of ferrari wheels on those were the days when in your early twenties you could afford even an E type jaguar just insure them in your dad's name and away you went to enjoy the best car in the world.
If ever I had the money, then either a 1961 (Year of birth.) or 1966 (England's World Cup winning year.) red E-Type Jaguar, coupé or roadster, would be right at the top of the list of cars to buy.
There is no better noise than the XK engine makes. It's unique.
I'd be reluctant to drive one simply because I've admired to styling hugely since childhood. I'd be gutted if the drive didn't suit me.
I did own an XJ8 X308 shape for a while and in my personal opinion this model was the last of the beautifully styled Jaguars. I don't like the new ones but appreciate plenty others do!
Great film. Surprised how small the legroom is. No good for me, but a beautiful thing to gaze at all the same.
Yep - my favourite E Type as well, especially in black.
My son loves the E Type and wants to own one when he grows up. I think he'd better start saving! It does sound rather wonderful. Bet you've still got a grin on your face! Thank you for the review :-)
Yup, still smiling. Hope hes getting plenty of pocket money, hes going to need it!
Simply stunning jaguar, don't make them like they use to. My father owned a few jaguar's in his younger years, a xk120 ,Daimler sovereign 4.2 and a xjs v12 from 1976 which he had fully restored. That was a stunning car , went like the starship enterprise .
Whooa that engine sound , such an elegant car.
As a lad in the early eighties I bought a red E type 2+2 at British car auctions in Enfield.. Paid about £1100 for it, it was full of body filler but looked great. I sold it for next to nothing when it miserably failed the MOT...
I love that growl and typical gearbox noise similar to the MK2 Jaguars.Almost as good as a RR Merlin powering a Spitfire!
The E-type is a style that will never grow old . There but handful of body styles that will never age .
The Studebaker Avanti is another excellent example. Grossly under-appreciated too.
However took out the rear window heater (or replaced the window with one without the elements in it) also installed the headlight switch backwards. The bezel pointer is 180 degrees misaligned with the selections for off, side and headlight. An easy fix.
I recall reading in car mag in the 90s the reasons the figures were the same is because they were made up and an e type from the factory may not make 140 no chance of 150 with out having some work done
Put in a 308 rear in it and you can
Triple Wipers!!!
HubNut will be foaming at the mouth!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Huw Davies triangle of doom 🤣
My grandfather gets 25mpg out of his 4.2, mainly because that car still has the original 3 SU HS6s
the rear window switch operates a heated rear window but at some point in it's life it either broke or someone stole it they are as rare as hens teeth. Also note the light switch is upside down ?, cars are for driving NOT drinking in you don't need a bloody cup holder, being the owner of a 3.8 E Type I can confirm the brakes are more heart stopping than car stopping, you really do have to 'look ahead', nonetheless loved the video
Great review, thanks. I'm blessed to own the very last RHD S1 2+2 made 30/07/68. The S2's started in August.
The Webasto roof was an option and installed post factory to dealer but pre dealer to customer. My 1970 Series 2 FHC RHD has this from new. The Tudor Webasto sunroof was a 95 pound option and the chrome wheels were 50 pounds.....as shown on the original Henlys Npovember 5, 1970 Bill of Sale I have for my car. Likewise, those exterior mirrors you did not like. Exterior mirrors were never a factory option but dealer installed which is why you see them in different locations. Mine are on the wings, small but they work. A 17 pound cost new on the Henleys Bill of Sale. Not sure about the 2+2 you were driving but the FHC (2 seater) has a lever on the side of the seats to alter the rake. Heated rear window - maybe new glass in the rear on your car ? or in the Series 2 cars, they all had the switch (even the OTS (convertibles) but not all had the heated rear window installed. Mine does - and it still works. 17 MPG - likely due to the webbers, or possibly the rear end differential ratio on your car. My car has the original triple SUs and original 3.07 rear end and I consistently get 23 MPG and have had as high as 25 MPG (driving 3 hours at 75 MPH on the motorway....or highway, as I live in Canada....yes, with a RHD E-Type, fairly rare here). I certainly agree with your comment, "it likes a cross between a Spitfire and a truck". The gearbox acts and sounds like a truck but the visual driving experience is like a Spitfire, although I have sat in but never flown a Spitfire. Thanks for the video....I enjoyed watching it as my car sits in the garage with several feet (or metres) of winter snow outside.
Well done video & super car for sure. I've enjoyed my '68OTS for the past 30+ years & each time I fire her up it is exciting. That's a growler on the steering hub & the interior is tight because Norman Dewis was a short guy, (RIP) & the interior of the car was mainly made to fit Him.
That sound as you pulled out of that lay-by, I can certainly see how it amused Mr. Lloyd. Amazing car. Superb video!
It was indeed most agreeable, sir!
Nice cap Matt. Marvellous noise. Awesome Car. Jensen Interceptor is gorgeous and sounds amazing but only comes in automatic. E Type is an Icon. Wouldn't fancy cleaning the wire wheels, though. What am I on about. I'd polish every single spoke to get a ride in this Jag.
Nicely presented video but as an E-type owner I wouldn't consider Weber carbs to be an "upgrade" the SU's when correctly set up give the 3.8 and 4.2 engine the correct balance. Both in power output and economy, something I feel Webers do not.
I live 5 minutes away from where this is filmed (Hatchet Pond, New Forest). 🙂
This E Type can be rented from Beaulieu Car Garage.
Its a little bit tatty but a great use able classic 👌
I owned a C reg 4.2 fixed head E type,said to be the lightest and fastest strait 6 powered versions.
Could not get over how rough the front frame worked looked......saw a few of the frames sitting outside a repair shop near the New Forest........looked like something out of the cheap end of the kit car market...
Gorgeous design, racing heritage, the XK engine - there’s so much to love about the E-Type! I enjoyed this one. Yes, I’m envious.
A good Moss gearbox is lovely to use. The lack of synchromesh on first with the low down torque of the XK engine isn’t worth worrying about. You just need to drive a car with a good Moss ‘box and you’ll change you’re opinion.
Got to be the best looking car ever made 😤
Not so sure about the “we are much bigger now than in the sixties”. Yes we are an inch taller, as adults and much fatter but folk didn’t expect to be comfy and cosseted in cars back then. My old Dad, who is dead, was a big bloke and he would wedge himself into anything, My father-in-law, who is now mad was and is huge and he would fit his whole family into a mini or an A30.....or anything that he hadn't sold. I am only 6’ 1” but I like comfort and room, so I drive a Boxer van. That way I can sleep when I am driving.
Like the comment about the mad fil
Only just found this video! So you’ve done an E-Type, you’ve done the XK8. So my absolute favourite car of all time has to beckon you at some point - the XJS!
It is an extreme and awkward design, very distinctive but I doubt it's the most beautiful car ever.
Nice review. The sunroof is not factory standard. the 2+2 you're driving is much more spacious than the short wheelbase car. I had to put a smaller steering wheel and bend the indicator stalk back to fit my knees in!
The sliding top ruined that car.
@@jeffhildreth9244 Ruined is probably a bit much. Its a popular period accessory. Not sure I would have it on the E-Type but they are nice on cruisy cars like say a rover P5 3 liter.
@@classicjalopy NO, ruined is "not a bit too much", I was being polite. The car is just short of an abomination.
You can have the last word.
Rear window switch could be for the extra fitted heater. Quite possible if fell off as they were stuck on..... At one stage I remember they couldn't give theses cars away....
One of the best cars England ever made lucky man driving that beauty 3 windscreen wipers wow
The view down the bonnet, with blurred fence posts on either side resembled driving a torpedo🤣
Yes, I have owned an E in '79-'81
Cursing my lack of foresight using hindsight
There was this Datsun 240Z I traded for it
Young, dumb, full of .....
And I'd like to thank you for not wearing a short skirt also! Haha, great review.
Absolute classic and iconic car, no wonder you had a wide grin, great stuff.
It's got some odd proportions compared to the original series I, particularly the stretched 2+2 cabin. Great review!
Agreed the 2+2 isn't quite as pretty from the side but it is a little more roomy inside
@@furiousdriving the 2 seater feels a lot better, I had a 2 plus 2 1969 one and a s1 1967 one and the early one was miles better.
In all the time I've known of the XK-E, and being 75 years old that's been from the inception, I've never heard anyone describe the tubular front subframes as "crude".
Perhaps "induistrial". It's all about function.
YES ! How dare they !
The footwell seems quite tight to you because the car is a Borg Warner (auto) model (with large tunnel ) fitted with a manual box - three pedals instead of two
It wasn't the 4.2 that gave more leg room, it was the series 3. I was in a series 2 last week and barely fit.
The early cars had the flat floor with even less foot space, quite soon they gained dished floors and the bulkhead changed to improve things during S1 production
nice to see some one enjoy his driving a e type very rare car to get a drive of .
Nicely presented video , very informative, thankyou , the E type ....gotta be the sexiest car ever
We had Jag Browns Lane fit the North America market Stainless Steel Wire wheels, the normal ones spokes came loose.Gearbox was not a smooth change, cant say i loved it, but everyone else did.!!. Don't think that steering wheels OE cause i remember paying for one that looked like that in the vid. 52 years ago, OMG... seems like 10.
Just re watched, the two plus two coupés had heated rear windows, that one was a non heated replacement.
I had a 2 seater coupe and a s2 2plus2 at the same time and the 2 plus 2 is rubbish compared to the shorter wheel base car, the turning circle one one thing that was very annoying I couldn't even swing into my drive, good days tho, 2 seater was 10k and I got the 2plus for 7300 with the great number HAV 42,had a s1 interceptor at same time as well.
Fantastic car, excellent presentation
New Forest seem to have become a bit of a hot spot for speed cameras...