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  • Why We Need to Embrace Whistleblowing
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    The first U.S. whistleblower protection law was passed unanimously in 1778 in response to the misconduct of Navy Commodore Esek Hopkins.Whistleblowing and civil disobedience are tools of discourse that keep elites honest and protect democracy.The difference? Whistleblowers are insiders who expose improper conduct to the authorities or to the press. Civil disobedience starts with outsiders whose actions slowly gain popular support, which then catalyzes change.
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    ALLISON STANGER:
    Allison Stanger is the Russell Leng ’60 Professor of International Politics and Economics at Middlebury College, a New America Cybersecurity Fellow, and an External Professor at the Santa Fe Institute. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. She is also the author of "One Nation Under Contract: The Outsourcing of American Power and the Future of Foreign Policy" and has contributed to Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Financial Times, International Herald Tribune, New York Times, USA Today, U.S. News and World Report, and The Washington Post.
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    TRANSCRIPT:
    ALLISON STANGER: It's really important to realize, whistleblowing is in America's DNA. It has been a concept since before the Constitution itself was ratified. The first whistleblower protection law in the United States was passed in 1778 during wartime. It is used to bring down the first commodore of the United States Navy, Esek Hopkins. Hopkins was a Rhode Islander. He was someone who had been involved in the slave trade, as the Brown Project illustrates quite clearly. And people think that the reason that Hopkins was removed from his post is because he was torturing British prisoners of war -- and he was doing that, as the whistleblowers Marvin and Shaw revealed, but that was just the tip of the iceberg. The real reason he was removed -- and research in digital archives shows to be so -- is that he was defying George Washington who was telling him to engage the British in the Revolutionary War effort in certain positions on behalf of the Congress of the United States, and Hopkins was instead directing his fleet to The Bahamas to serve, effectively, Rhode Island elites who were still very much involved in the slave trade even though slavery was illegal at this time. So I think this is a really interesting example because it shows how important the founders saw fighting corruption right when you first see it.
    Whistleblowing is a cousin of civil disobedience. Hannah Arendt thought that civil disobedience was a uniquely American institution, very much connected to Tocqueville's emphasis on the importance of civic associations and the vitality of American democracy. Civil disobedience is different than whistleblowing because civil disobedience is about highlighting unjust laws, and you break the law in order to get public opinion on your side to believe the law is unjust and should be overturned. Whistleblowing is different because it's not about breaking unjust laws. It's about serving the rule of law itself. So whistleblowers expose illegal or improper conduct that is at odds with self-government. So whistleblowing is related to civil disobedience, but they're two distinctive enterprises. You might say that civil disobedience starts with outsiders and slowly gains popular support and that's how change comes about, whereas whistleblowers are insiders who see behavior that they believe is improper and expose it either to the authorities or to the press. And this is a really important way of keeping our elites honest because if we don't have honest elites, you can't have self-government. You can't have liberal democracy.
    The first whistleblower protection law actually says you have an obligation to report misconduct when you see it, and this is intimately connected to democracy. And I really believe the Founders were right on that point, and you can see this in a number of examples today where, you know, take the #MeToo movement. That very much started with insiders exposing horrific misconduct. And then slowly you saw through social media that actually -- I think it's some statistic like 40% of women on Facebook came forward with #MeToo, 'this has happened to me as well.' But that started with elites pointing out that this has happened and it's wrong, and that rallied all sorts of other people to say, 'Hey, wait a minute. I might have kept quiet about that. I might have thought that was part...
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Komentáře • 72

  • @PureDelofan
    @PureDelofan Před 12 lety +4

    The title got cut off and I thought I was going to watch a video on why we need to hug.
    I like hugs.

  • @jmac217x
    @jmac217x Před 12 lety

    I love this channel. I subbed a few weeks and now can't believe I wasn't before.

  • @Ryakki
    @Ryakki Před 12 lety +1

    The difference is that when you whistle blow, you're reporting an issue with an organization that has/can cause serious societal harm. Snitching is generally reporting on an individual, many times someone who considered you a friend and and assumed the information was in confidence, and there's usually no imminent future harm at stake... it's also many times to get the snitch out of trouble, it's for personal benefit.
    Whistle blowing is selfless and heroic, snitching is selfish and cowardly.

  • @rafaelrealdiaz684
    @rafaelrealdiaz684 Před 6 lety

    Someone at my work whistleblew on me. Apparently something I had done to a service user, I'm in the care sector and it was later deemed to be not true... The whole investigation was sloppy to say the least. On my return to work I was confronted on my shift by the service users parent.... I'm now talking to my union as to what I can do about it.... But this whole whistle blowing thing... Doesn't protect the person accused.... it's in my opinion very dangerous... bcos anyone can say anything they like about you just bcos they don't like you or for whatever reason and i think that sucks

  • @loahnuh
    @loahnuh Před 12 lety +5

    Once saw a guy wearing a patch that said "Snitches get Stitches." Never wanted to send someone to the hospital so badly before. Drop the street/playground mentality already. We are taught from an early age, by peers, not to tattle at risk of ostracization; keeping something in confidence is a virtue, when it's strictly personal. Knowing when, and how, to voice concerns is also regarded as a virtue; particularly where group welfare is concerned, though that same risk still follows.

  • @Ioganstone
    @Ioganstone Před 12 lety

    thanks for reminding me...............

  • @paulevans2891
    @paulevans2891 Před 9 lety +2

    I whistleblew at a nursing home,am a nurse,had no help,home shut,manager struck of.So if a family member having bad care,you would like them to keep gobs shut!!Many issues money missing,drugs gone,assaults staff not working,bad staff,bought a car out of residents money,etc etc.Some ver ignorant,slack,dozy people commenting on here!!,

  • @Ioganstone
    @Ioganstone Před 12 lety +1

    Indeed, to the contrary

  • @antrux
    @antrux Před 12 lety

    Behind Every complaint once you remove the emotion there is at least a shred of truth.

  • @RBuckminsterFuller
    @RBuckminsterFuller Před 12 lety

    Yes.

  • @Anonymous247n
    @Anonymous247n Před 12 lety

    When somebody blows the whistle it raises other kinds of questions in me. Were they signaling the start of a soccer match? Maybe signaling car drivers in dense traffic? Or just having fun annoying the shit out of the neighbors at 3am. And all those questions need to be considered with utmost seriousness.

  • @kght222
    @kght222 Před 12 lety

    add captions to a video of your own, then tell them how to do it. at least the transcript is available. i haven't tried putting subtitles on a video myself (i haven't even uploading any) but i suspect it involves a bit more than just a transcript.

  • @LeonidasGGG
    @LeonidasGGG Před 12 lety

    Why do they have the text in the description and not in subtitles?

  • @andrewpatrick7414
    @andrewpatrick7414 Před 3 lety

    Offensive comments by Mary Inman & Constantine Cannon: Constantine Cannon Offensive Comments (A sample):
    1)”I noticed Mr Patrick had ‘Neglected’ to provide the date with his signature” - Mary Inman
    2)”By the way the client called the paper himself to explore the idea but didn,t get very far unsurprisingly”- Mary Inman.
    3)”When is this torture going to be over” Mary Inman regarding myself.
    4)”As predicted might happen the client Mr Patrick is extremely anxious and e-mailing us about the issue daily”
    5)”We,ll be able to put this to bed with Andrew and stop the nonsense” - Mary Inman
    6)”The client as always is getting Antzy” - Mary Inman.
    7)(Slightly simplifying it for him), I hope that will satisfy him, though experience suggests it probably wont” - Richard Pike
    8)”He,s too Volatile and wouldn’t trust him to project the right image on camera” - Mary Inman
    9)”Please gag him” Georgina Halford Hall Whistleblowers UK
    10) “Totally hear you and appreciate/understand/share your concern. Client was hell-bent on speaking with the press. Believe it or not, I was able to steer him away from worse comments! Let's talk later” - Mary Inman to Georgina Halford Hall CEO Whistleblowers UK.
    11) “He does not retain information that we send/provide and prefers to escalate matter & become difficult” - Mary Inman
    12) “I imagine you have little interest in Mr Patrick’s other allegations but, for completeness, we should note that the SRA disposed of Mr Patrick’s complaint without taking any further action.” Richard Pikes view of the SRA,s warning letter for offensive communications between Mary Inman & Georgina Halford Hall
    13) “He Parroted back to me” Mary Inman
    14) “He,s back to torment me, I thought his WB matter was over” - Sara Vickery Practice co-ordinator
    15) “When is this torture going to be over” Mary Inman discussing me.
    16) “The call went well. Thankfully, he was not interested in speaking to Andrew Patrick" Mary Inman.
    17) Mr Patrick provided screenshots of the emails between Ms Inman and Ms Hall. These emails make comments such as ‘gag him’, ‘keep him away from…’ and ‘no good can come from his engagement’. - SRA
    18) However, Mr Patrick was able to provide evidence of the emails and it is understandable why Mr Patrick is not happy with the comments made about him by Ms Inman. SRA
    19) “I don’t think we will ever get Andrew to a point where he,d write something that provides a wider context” Mary Inman
    20) “He is very difficult to corral and keep on message”. Mary Inman
    21) “Client Disappointed (aren,t they all!?)” Mary Inman
    22) E-mail subject “Ironic” “Ands theres more….” Richard Pikes sarcastic reply to my e-mail of complaint
    23) “Sigh….” In response to the complaint I was making as Richard Pike forwards e-mail to Mary Inman
    24) “It’s a shame he forgot everyone else who was involved” Richard Pike in response to a positive feedback I left them in the initial stages, I had mentioned - him, Molly Knopfler Constantine Cannon, who else he expected me to mention I do not know.
    25) “I think you have just been introduced to Andrew Patrick………
    Doesn’t mention who he is until the end of the message assuming we know…….” Sarah Vickery Practice Co-ordinator
    26) “He is getting impatient again”
    27) “He,s like clockwork with his requests”
    28) “Given our Andrew Patrick connection, I’m including a link to the recent New York Times story that includes quotes from him regarding his False Claims Act case against the Pure Collection for evasion of U.S. customs dues. Thought you’d get a kick out of them”. Mary Inman.

  • @chiefchefychef
    @chiefchefychef Před 12 lety

    Someone who brings issues that would otherwise be kept a secret to light. Corruption, scandals, etc.

  • @bromordra
    @bromordra Před 12 lety

    Not even a little bit.
    In fact 'titles of nobility' are explicitly prohibited in our constitution.

  • @Typho0n86
    @Typho0n86 Před 12 lety

    We need to set up a public not gorvermnet safty force to help these people!! Power of the People!

  • @AscendingParadigm
    @AscendingParadigm Před 12 lety

    Sir Andrew Likierman & Too Short should do a collaboration remix

  • @Anonymous247n
    @Anonymous247n Před 12 lety

    I've seen it say "Why we need to embrace" and thought it was something interesting. Whistleblowing? Well... it's a bit too simplistic musical instrument for my taste, so perhaps we should embrace the piano or the violin or a trumpet. Just an idea.

  • @azumaninjay
    @azumaninjay Před 12 lety

    If what he said is true. Then why is corruption so rampant, and no one seem to care?

  • @chubysnow
    @chubysnow Před 12 lety

    ITS OVER 9000!

  • @ManBearPiglet
    @ManBearPiglet Před 12 lety

    No. Snitching is demonstrating loyalty to some authority at the cost of harming an individual and betraying the trust of your peers. Whistleblowing is actually the exact opposite.

  • @Fly2Azeroth
    @Fly2Azeroth Před 12 lety +1

    need more whistleblowers in the justice system

  • @Ericthebearjew1
    @Ericthebearjew1 Před 12 lety

    That's funny, because rule #2 is never be insecure about your weaknesses.

  • @perfectdiversion
    @perfectdiversion Před 12 lety

    i only subscribe to big think for sir andrew likierman! lol jokes im here for dr michio kaku!!!!!!!!!! MORE PLEASE

  • @supercaffinekid5
    @supercaffinekid5 Před 12 lety

    anyone else get "why we need to embrace" as the title on the home page?

  • @PATRIOTxx3
    @PATRIOTxx3 Před 12 lety +1

    I think it's a sort of formality today that if you snitch, you're a coward....I think the ones who don't snitch - when they are put in a situation involving immorality or injustice - are cowards because they are afraid of the social and physical consequences

    • @Fcycfvyvvyvtfutg
      @Fcycfvyvvyvtfutg Před 2 lety

      Hopefully that mentality changes. There are good and many people who believe the same as you.

  • @Limonoriginal
    @Limonoriginal Před 12 lety

    What? No top comment? There is always a top comment to these videos that always have a valid point that make you think about the video even more.....I guess not today.

  • @AnoAno94
    @AnoAno94 Před 12 lety

    What is a Whistleblower in this cotext?

  • @giovsvoig
    @giovsvoig Před 12 lety

    This was incredibly vague. I think what he had to say was probably valuable, but I can't judge without knowing what kind of "whistleblowing" we're talking about here.

  • @jkdmak
    @jkdmak Před 12 lety

    you sir, you made me laugh very fucking hard :D

  • @TheDb884
    @TheDb884 Před 12 lety

    Curious, does the U.S have an equivalent to a Knighthood?

  • @NeilLoose1
    @NeilLoose1 Před 12 lety

    There is a difference between blowing the whistle for something legitimate, and being a snitch. No one likes a tattle tale. Most of our parents taught us that from a young age. No one wants to be known as the person that tells on everyone

  • @dabomb1357
    @dabomb1357 Před 12 lety

    No, it's the exact same thing.

  • @ParanoidGamer122
    @ParanoidGamer122 Před 11 lety

    snitch on what you believe is wrong. if others believe it's wrong then they'll listen. investigate and if nothing is wrong then move on, if there is; fix it.

  • @JedWasTaken
    @JedWasTaken Před 12 lety

    Rule 1, there are no rules...

  • @NattyFaith1
    @NattyFaith1 Před 12 lety

    68 people do.

  • @TokyoZeplin
    @TokyoZeplin Před 12 lety

    quite unlikely actually, since CZcams views don't get stuck at the current number of 286 views :P

  • @Harddiskfail
    @Harddiskfail Před 12 lety

    If you see something say something.

  • @MithranArkanere
    @MithranArkanere Před 12 lety

    Yeah! Leave Wikileaks alone!

  • @dabomb1357
    @dabomb1357 Před 12 lety

    Are you seriously making the distinction between an orginization and an individual. What if the individual had/coul cause serious societal harm? So what if that information was in confidence? So what if they were your friend? So what if there's no immient harm to the snitch?

  • @dwaydway1
    @dwaydway1 Před 12 lety

    I hate a RAT, but I respect at times a whistleblower....

  • @goddamnrickli
    @goddamnrickli Před 12 lety

    Wikileaks. Nuff said.

  • @RabidChocobo
    @RabidChocobo Před 12 lety

    But he's smart and british so it's cool

  • @2583060
    @2583060 Před 12 lety

    evver heard of STEREO SOUND?

  • @helloitsnicko
    @helloitsnicko Před 12 lety

    LOL he really is!

  • @Fangtorn
    @Fangtorn Před 12 lety

    I see what you did there.

  • @Ryakki
    @Ryakki Před 12 lety

    The "whistle blowing" was just a blogger lying and faking a story. It wasn't real whistle blowing. He was completely discredited.

  • @EverHungry8FryingPan
    @EverHungry8FryingPan Před 12 lety

    Whistleblowers are employees in a company who exposes their own firm for misconduct (could be related to anything, from the management level to a manufacturing process)

  • @Harrysound
    @Harrysound Před 12 lety

    This man is very very very posh

  • @colossalko
    @colossalko Před 12 lety

    This guy better keep his head on a swivel.

  • @titan_6712
    @titan_6712 Před 2 lety

    Wsh les 1ere AMC bien ou quoi

  • @jkdmak
    @jkdmak Před 12 lety

    or possibly ma'am...

  • @Razzfazz87
    @Razzfazz87 Před 12 lety

    videos, not views. bigthink has 9000+ videos uploaded

  • @sbaeagles15
    @sbaeagles15 Před 12 lety

    What were you before?!?!?!?!!?

  • @LFLvideos
    @LFLvideos Před 12 lety

    WE NEED JOE ROGAN!

  • @jmac217x
    @jmac217x Před 12 lety

    Trolololol... -_-

  • @UEF_Dawson
    @UEF_Dawson Před 12 lety

    Israeli style! its always worth investigating so you don't get caught with your pants down.
    "better to be safe than sorry"

  • @TheFarmerboyproducti
    @TheFarmerboyproducti Před 12 lety

    the number of videos are over 9000.........
    just sayin

  • @UFOria212
    @UFOria212 Před 12 lety

    Snitches get stitches....

  • @FourthSpell
    @FourthSpell Před 12 lety

    1/10

  • @dinomash379
    @dinomash379 Před 12 lety

    Kaku..........

  • @DistortedV12
    @DistortedV12 Před 12 lety

    no one cares.