Newell vs. Foretravel
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Newell is a better coach…but Newell is on a whole different playing field…I don’t think this Newell is 3x the coach of Foretravel…I would go with a Foretravel over a King Aire all day long…Foretravel Always has excellent rear baths..Kinda not fair when comparing a coach 3x the price over the other…Just my $.02
I don't think I would call the Foretravel a "Production coach". I'm sure that Newell makes more coaches than Foretravel. The Newell is nicer but not one million dollars nicer. The Foretravel is a better value.
It's not just what you pay but also how well it holds it's value. I kind of doubt he is going to get what he is asking for the Newell but he does it for a living so I doubt he is too far out of line. With the depreciation the Newell is probably a better deal at the end of the day.
I really doubt that Newell makes more coaches than Foretravel. Newell only makes about 2 a month.
Having owned both there is zero comparison. The foretravel will depreciate like nothing you have ever seen. Newell is above all other manufacturers including liberty. Service, workmanship, value retention, active tag axle. Newell is where its at.
Thats a very to the point conclusion I like it I really thought liberty would hold up never heard of the other one until today 😅
Also trying to get my money 💰 like you 😂
How can you compare two coaches that have a 1.4 million dollar price difference ???
I see that depreciation in foretravels but, also Newell depreciated pretty fast! From 2.5 milion in ten years they go down to 1.2 milion, that’s a significant depreciation! 🤷🏻♂️
I would take a Foretravel any day!!
For me, I’d choose the Foretravel all day. Love them. Great job Andrew.
Andrew, you need to go out to Texas and visit the FORETRAVEL factory. This isn't a fair comparison at all. You're comparing the REALM, which is a 'production' coach, to a custom NEWELL. You should be comparing a FORETRAVEL IH-45, which is a custom coach, to the NEWELL. Yeah, the NEWELL is going to have more glitz, and eye wash, but the IH-45 also has many of the high end features as the NEWELL and being a custom coach they can add whatever high end features you want. The biggest difference I can see is the tag axle steering and aluminum side walls but is that really worth another million dollars?
i totally this not a fair comparison
Waiting for Andrew to respond to some of those VERY valid comments down there...
He has a great audience and i love reading all of them. One thing is for sure, the used motorcoach market is nearing a cliff. All the manufacturers are trying to act like everything is cool but it is quite the contrary. We are upgrading very soon, but exhibiting patience right now.
Andrew is that you? Wait, I think i see him...
As I watch and listen to your comparison, when you go through that Foretravel you might have considered using the phrase "not as expensive a treatment" as Newell as opposed to "not the quality" you'll find in a Newell. The differentiator as you compare treatments is "expense" as opposed to "quality". Otherwise, nice video. And as an afterthought, Foretravel seems a wildly great "value" buy when compared to Newell and a couple others (Prevost excepted).
I can already tell which one you like better Andrew lol! Just by how you were comparing the two when you were giving the tour of the Foretravel. For me? If Bradly T came up to me and said I could have either one for free: Hands down the Foretravel is the one I would pick if I had the choice between the two. The paint job on the Newell coach is beautiful. But the inside looks like the inside of a nightclub, or like a party bus that people would go to party and have a good night and there is even beds for people to sleep in after the party. It in no way makes me feel like I’m in a warm and cozy coach. It’s not ugly by any means, you can see the quality of the craftsmanship. And it’s a very attractive coach. But it isn’t something I would buy even if I had that kind of money. Over 2$ million dollars? I don’t see it. Anyway….thank you so much for a great video, it was really fun comparing the two coaches. I would love to see more of these kind of videos in the future!😊
If both were offered to you for free and you chose the Foretravel, then I don't mean to be rude but you are... not very bright. 🙂
I'm kind of just playing around, but in 10 years from now, the Newell will be worth MUCH MUCH MUCH more than the Foretravel. If money means nothing to you, then you're unique but the for the rest of us, value is important.
@@BPoweredLove you have a right to your opinion, everyone is different. Because you think something is better or you think it is going to have more value doesn’t mean others have to agree with you. And it doesn’t mean we are “stupid” or “not bright” because of it!
@@tiffanystokes5509 You needn't inform me of how the concept of opinions work between people and whether or not we humans are entitled to the rights of opinions; I quite understand.
Had you said "price dependent, I'd take the Foretravel", then everything that followed would be... your opinion. But you didn't say that, so I challenged. Just the same as if I announced "I prefer the taste of a piece of dog feces over a cheeseburger. Excrement is more delicious than a hamburger" I would expect challenge. To say you'd take this $800k coach over a much more valuable $2.2m begs challenge. The only shock to me is that no one did in 4 months. ;-)
Feel better, friend. It was just a fun retort to an otherwise silly comment of yours. Truth be told, I don't appreciate the Vegas mirrors and LEDs on some of these high-end coaches, but I most assuredly wouldn't choose one that is $800k depreciating to $400k over a few years vs $2.2m depreciating to $1.7m in that same time, but... that's just me and my silly opinion. ;-)
@@BPoweredLove is the topic that serious? No, and anyway I’d never be able to afford any motorhome let alone those ones.
@@tiffanystokes5509
No, it's not "that serious". I am certainly not taking anything seriously. Do you not see all my old-school smileys? I simply made a goofy point to a goofy claim. I even showed you that I understand the point you made. My wife and I watch all these high-end RV videos and laugh at how crazy over-the-top they are with all the Las Vegas (we live in Phoenix, close(ish) to Vegas) features. What we DO like it the amazing quality and hate production RVs with sub-standard quality.
And we're with you, we cannot afford that $800k coach, much less a $2.2m coach. Having said all that, since you and I don't have the money, I'd think you'd take the Newell for the very value point I made.
Hey, it's all good. I just wanted to play around and didn't mean to offend. Take good care.
Buy a foretravel and keep a million in your bank account
Newell customers aren't strapped for cash. 🙂 They enjoy a much slower rate of depreciation of the Newell over a Foretravel.
Foretravel vs a Newmar King Aire would be more apples to apples comparison. To compare a Foretravel to a Newell makes it apples to oranges IMO, which has only been formed by viewing all your videos past 4 years 🤷♂ lol The Foretravel Prevost conversions are very impressive floor plans and rear baths but they seem to be very far and few between I wonder if Foretavel still builds on the Prevost.
Neat video. As a current Foretravel owner I think you are spot on. If you own a Foretravel you can’t imagine owning any other coach than a Newell …. I’m excited to see your upcoming video on the 2013 IH45 that is going thru the PDI process there. The IH was the last of the true Foretravel coaches … built on their proprietary chassis. I agree with Brad when he said that a 8-10 year old Foretravel is probably better built than a new one. 💪👍🏼
Can you explain why the new Foretravels went downhill compared to the older ones? Thx
They didn’t go downhill. They had to move to a spartan chassis because the government put huge levels of tests on any company building their own chassis. It made economic sense to move away from building their own. The rest of the coach is still awesome quality.
@@MaximusMerideus Having to use a purchased chassis instead of building their own. Like Country Coach and Monaco, one of Foretravel's big differentiators was building their own chassis.
Amazing change in choice of wording when you went from talking about Newell, who sponsors you, and Foretravel, who does not. Still, though, a good video.
Foretravel hands down. Most never keep a coach past 2-3 years in this market. That’s why there are so many custom Newell just sitting hoping the never owners love the custom plan. Also, Foretravel can build custom as well. Nice video Andrew but, most will never need a 2million dollar coach 😅.
Newell is the coach to have, not a production line or a passenger bus conversion coach. Foretravel I think is a great value over "any" other production coaches, I would like to have one but, probably won't. I am not impressed with any of the very high end coaches that do not offer real wood cabinetry and, their reasons about the wood moving around with the season changes is partially true, being a cabinet maker they could offer real wood veneers over stable substrates to give you the warm feel of wood not, the shiny plastic laminate. I used solid oak and maple in my rebuild and have no problems. I think Liberty Coach is getting way out of hand price wise but, if you can sell your product to those that have to have the most expensive then there those that can market that to some people
I thought the Foretravel IH-45 was also a custom built too prior to the Realm model that is built somewhere else.
Oh, how I ❤ that Newell
The beast coach I’ve ever seen!
Love the tub!
2017 was the last year Foretravel built custom frames. IH-45 does depreciate quicker than Newell, but there is not $1MM in added benefit between the two. The IH-45 with HWH Active Air give the coach an unbelievable ride. The 2018 and beyond have become more of a production coach, so comparing the latest to pre-2018 is not apples and oranges. I have spoken to a few coach owners and they have owned both. Their opinion, as owners is FT ranks a close 3rd to the other custom built coaches. We have had production coaches and the FT is a massive step up from anything in the production RV industry. Everyone has an opinion and each has to be happy with the choice they make! I can upgrade my FT for less than $1MM to make it what I want...Great job on a quick overview!
Awesome video, Andrew! But there is no reason to compare these two. Newell can only be compared to Prevost coach builders like Liberty Coach, etc.
I think comparing a Foretravel Realm and Realm Presidential to Newmar's King Aire, Essex and maybe London Aire might make some sense though. I'd like to see that video some day.
Foretravel...a nice step to getting the Newell. Good price on Foretravel ( low mileage) ! Both are nice, however. PS. I don't need a tub, Foretravel, don't need bunks, Newell. Great video....If I get my inheritance, Newell, or a Liberty fer sher..😊 Thanks, Andrew
Imagine how much money both of these new owners gave up when they sold these coaches. I own a 2000 Monaco dynasty built on their custom roadmaster chassis that I still love after almost 24 years. It doesn’t have all the fancy stuff that these two coaches do but it still truly works for me.
They both are a beautiful Motor coach Andrew Steele and they both have a beautiful paint 🎨 schemes Andrew Steele 🤩
I appreciate what both Brands are building: if money is no object then a Newell. However you can find a really clean Liberty or Marathon used for $799,999.99 thats probably my move.
Andrew, can you please make a video also about the slide out system of a foretravel compare a Newell? I think (but I’m not sure) that also foretravel drop the floor and close the slide?! Thank you very much
Yes, drop floor on the Foretravel.
I always wanted to see a comparison video, never mind !!!
Love both coaches! Would rake either!
Another great video, Andrew. I would have liked to see the comparison of what's in the basement...not necessarily the space, but a comparison of AquaHot systems, air compressor, DI wash, holding tanks, electronics, etc. How does Foretravel's service compare to Newell's 24/7 hotline? Maybe a part 2?
Great comparison! Money no object? Newell of course. Curious, does Newell use a stainless steel fresh water tank like Liberty Coach or do they use plastic?
Hey Andrew does the Liberty Coach have rear steering or something similar as the Newell?
One important difference is Newell uses aluminum skin vs the Foretravel which is fiberglass.
Would have liked to see the bays compared. As well as all the tech and systems in them.
Andrew, you are looking at a million or there abouts difference in their prices as well, so no, Foretravels are not quite the expensive treatments as the Newells. Also, keep in mind that the older Foretravels were custom built with their own frames, etc., which I believe ride better than the Spartan chassis, which they went to in I believe '08. So, for the money, the Foretravels are a great buy! Just my most humble opinion from a 2nd Foretravel owner!
I kmow the Newell has rear steering tag axle, but does the Foretravel?
When you mention headroom, I'm always left wondering being 6'7 how much room is it actually for a guy my natural height.
Has either Newell or Foretravel started to use voice assistant features yet?
Sir I like Newell coach whay i like Newell? Its a amazing inside verry cool 😊❤👍!
I put the Foretravel closer to the King Aire. Not to be biased but i like my London Aire better. Not quite as high end but i believe more user friendly. Thx.
Give me that Foretravel because its got the best bang for the buck. But I want that Newell red n white paint job 😍. 🍻
I like when Bradley said he like to deal in reality when it comes to numbers. It really doesn't matter what Foretravel MSRP is, all that matters is what they will sell it to you for. To be honest, I don't think I would deal with a RV company that gives a MSRP that 30% higher then what the coach will sell for. You have to ask why are they doing that? To find the one person who doesn't research prices so they can take advantage of them and sell thm a coach at MSRP? Sounds a little grimy and off putting to me.
Newell is the best of the best, and a dream coach for anyone, but for twice the price, and with many of the fabrics and custom touches that might not be someone's up of tea, the Foretravel is without a doubt the better deal. All the best hardware, and quality you'll ever need. Also there is some level of customization that can be done to a Foretravel, not from the ground floor up as with the Newell, but a lot still. And both are two coaches I'll never ever own unless I hit the Powerball.. ; )
Really? One costs 300% more than the other? Great comparison level 🙄...
It amazes me that the ppl that buy these insane vehicles never hang on to them. We constantly see these things for sale a year later. They spend more time developing and putting these things together then they keep them. The the 1%ers when they're bored.
This was our Foretravel. We didn’t get “bored”. Our first motor home was a Toter that pulled a 70’ race car trailer, I drove it. Second was a custom Peter Built truck pulling a 45’ fifth wheel, i drove it. Next a View, Mercedes chassis, I drove it. Last one, this 45’ Foretravel. I drove it. Hubby has Parkinson’s. We tried camping, in every possible way. Always paid cash. So we lost a few bucks, at least we tried and had fun.
For me it’s like Canon and Nikon, you can’t go wrong with either one.
I’d say go with Newell if you feel the need to design and spec absolutely everything including the chassis. Both are absolutely gorgeous and amazing.
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Didn’t your Newell burn?
I like Newell !
Newell is head and shoulders above any other coach. Liberty, Featherlite, or Marathon Prevost converters are just that, converters.
I think it would more appropriate to compare a Foretravel with a Newmar. Newell's due to their total customization are in their own league.
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Give me the Newell!
So all I got from this vid is an 800k fortravel is not as nice as a 1.23mil newell, maybe next time try not to piss all over one while premoting another.
Chassis. Structure. Safety. Newell over Foretravel hands down.
Foretravel o er Newell. Newell looks too much like an office. It's beautiful
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Newell is aluminum skin, What is the Foretravel?
You pronounced Nega-dotches! Its Nacogdoches
newell
Economic reality aside, I would choose Newell, but not that Newell. Garish, gaudy, and a host of other descriptors come to mind.
How biased can u be ???
I know I’m showing my age but that Newell is gaudy as hell! I hate everything about the inside! $2M for that highly dated trying to be modern and cool. I don’t see those choices aging well!
Newell or Nothing
Comparing apples to apples, you need the Presidential version to go up against the Newell. The Newell is nice but overpriced.
NIce review but stop saying high end, we know it's high end what you need to be saying is oh this isn't the quality I would expect.
not really a reasonable comparison. Newell is in a different class. Foretravel is no longer anything special since the IH. The Realm is a nice high end production coach. Realm vs. KingAire would have been more appropriate. And really, you need to stop repeating the works robust and industrial all the time.
Go Newell or go home!
Andrew has his head up Newells ass. Always has. A lot of miss information. When Newell builds a Spec coach it is a production coach. Foretravel will build and make changes per your order IF it fits there design limits. 1 million compared to 2 million Foretravel all the way. I invite Andrew to come see the truth and facts. Andrew does GREAT work and give great information. I have personally met Andrew and he is a GREAT guy. But there is more to life then Newell.
The battleship gray in the Newell is predictable and extremely boring. Great floorplan! Newell is the best! However, I would not want the battleship gray color that everybody seems to want these days. I hate being a follower!
Newell hands down.
Prevost y newell los numero 1 en el mercado de autocars