Niemann's Chess Is Utterly Bizarre
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Hans Niemann's Chess Is Utterly Bizarre. This is his round 7 game in the London Chess Classic against Mateusz Bartel. very strange chess from Niemann, missing fairly straight forward tactics for super GM chess players and with a lot of time on his clock!
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Great game, although aside Niemann's miss, he wasn't actually the one pushing forward, it was Bartel doing the crazy stuff.
Yeah true!
So you did essentially use clickbait tactics here. Gonna block your channel now.
No I genuinely thought Niemann’s play was a bit bizarre, but as you wish, sorry to see you go!
@@samuelhakansson6680your loss. This is one of the clearest and most informative chess channels out there. All killer no filler.
@@epicchess2021this is like Nezmedinov vs Tall and Tall have to defende😂
It is nice to see MatiBar playing such a romantic chess. He is always more creative and extra motivated playing against famous opponents and this game is a prime example
True !
What a game by Bartel!! Beautiful chess, wild attacking, sacs and exchange sacs, relentless pressure! The eval bar said it was crazy to do it but people are not computers. Magnus also frequently is down on the eval bar and wins later.
A good prep by Bart. Took his chances and won👏🏼
I thought you might have been exaggerating but that game really was one of the craziest I've ever seen. Great commentary!
Thanks very much!
Nice to see your channel keeps growing. I have been watching since you had 200 viewers per video. You narrate very well and for a 2000 ELO player like myself the tempo of the analysis is just perfect. Keep it up
Thanks very much yeah it’s been a journey!
Hans plays almost as weird as Stockfish.
strange how that works
Just pick the second best move of the engine once or twice per game and you're set. Hard to prove and pays off over time.
The weirdness of his games is that in all his mediocrity (for a GM anyway), he every now and then plays a kramnik procedure inducing move.
[name of player] plays as strange as... STOCKFISH! All GMs have to do is "pick the second best move of the engine once or twice per game and you're set. Hard to prove and pays off over time."
Anyone who thinks a 2700 is "mediocre" has not been paying attention. Or maybe they are deluded enough to think there is this one player who is so technologically adept as well as a GM who can cheat without detection.
Niemann keeps flip flopping between club and stockfish level play. 😂
Yeah lol
I wouldn't characterise it like that. Weaker players make fairly frequent inaccuracies. But Niemann mostly plays well, but with occasional large blunders. It's quite different. Here, he showed excellent defensive judgment, while the other guy made a series of unsound attacking moves, until he blundered very badly, a move so easy that I found it watching the game live. It is unusual to see Niemann defending well against an attack, because normally he's the one making the attack. I hope he takes heart from the bit he did well. True, after the blunder, he played badly, losing too easily from a still defensible position. I would guess he realised he'd blundered, and lost the will to fight on.
Yeah he plays top engine moves first and then not to be caught he goes for the 7th or 8th top move @@ivanviehoff6025
keeps flipping between club and stockfish play :)
I'll say it, the weirdness speaks for itself
Sometime you have access to stockfish sometimes you cannot bypass security.
Magnus is proof of that!
At 9:44 when he said " and now this is where the game just turns insane", I was like.....that ship has sailed. Insanity prevailed in this game way before that moment...btw, that was a classic. Your explanation is very educational.
Haha Thanks very much
The ghost of Tal whispered in Bartel's ear.
I guess even the great Michail Tal would have been impressed.
Niemann: *makes great move*
Everyone: This proves he’s cheating!
Niemann: *makes bad move*
Everyone: This proves he was cheating!
Niemann: *Makes normal move*
Everyone: This proves he has been cheating!
bro cant win
well... yeah. But he brought it on himself by cheating.
It may be annoying, but this is the result of his admitted cheating, so people won't trust him for at least some time.
No cheat should be claimed without proof. We first should look for other explanations, why Niemann plays Super GM chess in a tournament with nearly nonexistent anti-cheating measures (Crostia) and blunders away many moves of +5-7 advantage in atournament with more professional control. Like claiming to be the new Fischer is so exhausting….
@@declaredjeans7555 in meaningless online games, even fabiano said online ratings are meaningless
This guy is totally not cheating. I mean, he told me himself...
His game speaks for itself
I agree with Bartel that Niemann's play is likely normal in London.
I enjoyed this video as much as any other chess video I've seen. The game was a hardcore cliffhanger, and the commentary was majorly instructional and entertaining. Give everyone concerned a cigar.
Haha Thanks very much glad you enjoyed appreciate the comment!
The lost bluetooth connection to his beads spoke for itself
A very misleading title. Hans' chess was completely normal, if somewhat error-prone. Bartel was doing the crazy stuff and congratulations to him for it. It is also a good indication that Hans' opponents are confident he is not cheating - you just don't go into lines like this against a strong computer.
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Fully get where you coming from but I disagree - one moment he pulls out a 2946 performance and the next he squanders a +10 advantage with 40 minutes on the clock… btw I am not suggesting he’s cheating, far from it, I never have, I just find his chess bizarre, very erratic
@@epicchess2021bartel say hans was badly sick so bad he feel he had a advantage
It is always unfortunate when your butt batteries die and force you to perform a Rectotez Gambit
I get it. Batteries. Such fun. Wow. Batteries... oh yeah that must be it.
Bartel playing like Tal
Bartal. 😂
Love your commentary
You have it all to make it big in the chess commentary space
And of course, another Hans classic 😅
In all fairness, I'd say this was a Bartel classic.
Thanks very much yeah it’s hard to take your eyes of his games right now!
11:25 what to do... bring right black rook over to d2 CHECK. queen takes rook takes CHECK AGAIN king has to move then black queen to g6 to protect the pawn to queen square but prob is that he'll advance anyway and queen takes queen, rook takes queen. Now white is ahead on pieces. It's hard to see into the future what if what if what if.
I don't know how you do it but you make chess really entertaining while staying up-to-date with top players. Keep going, absolutely addicted to the channel.
Thanks very much glad to hear! Cheers for watching
Good vid as always, but I would like if there was a flower or something on the top shelf...
Thanks a lot and yeah I know I need to work on it lol
first time I hear of Bartel, but doing such moves against the world champion candidate and seeing it trough takes huge balls. Definitely will follow him
- The DRAMA of a PAWN move!
You could call an F1 race. - LOOK AT THAT!
incredible stuff, well done Mateusz!
I was like "Aaaaaaaaahhh" when he showed that queen check.
if Niemann is such genius , how come he lost +10 advantage with 40 minutes on the clock. He was playing the end game on his own, and you could see how bad he is.
James, Magnus wouldn't even allow these lines,variations.
One of the biggest weakness from Hans is that he doesn't take the time to think in the most decisives moments, like when he was completely winning with +8 advantage and 30 Minutes to play the right move
It's not bizarre, it's just very tactical.
So hans plays at a 2900 level just a week ago and in another week hes back to playing 2600.. interesting
yes but nobody so far can explain how he manages to cheat in plain sight . how is ti possible ?
yes very interesting
@gmsi7d371 biggest mystery in chess
Yeah that was my point with title. I personally am not suggesting cheating, just erratic, bizarre
I think he feels like the only way to get everyone to shut up is to deliver another crazy performance in a setting with better anti cheat measures. So he is under a little mental pressure I guess. I dont personally think he's cheating, but the scrutiny is 100% warranted so I think he just needs to accept that and grow thicker skin like Hikaru.
This game is a great example of how/why many many games between grandmasters - likely ended in a resignation PREMATURELY! For many of these games, one mistake that could radically change the game - isn't always very easy to see and not mistakenly do. Resigning prematurely can sometimes take away the opponent's opportunity to make such a mistake, and this game demonstrates what could have happened instead... in many of those premature resignations!
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No worries glad you’re enjoying!
Wonderful & amazing game ! Thank you & more success to your video/ podcast .
Thanks a lot!
My head is spinning after that one. Hans has lost two games now after his insane performance in the Tournament of Peace. No chance he's winning any longer but I hope he can recover in the few games left. 2 games? I forget.
Yeah must be 2 because 10 players and that was round 7
He plays too much. You cannot maintain this form with no rest.
Love seeing Niemann lose entirely because of his ridiculous lawsuit.
It’s like watching the TCEC World Cup finals
Parhaps Hans lent his beads to his oppenent on this occasion.
Still can't bring myself to trust him. He reminds me of Boris Johnson.
Very impressive tactics by Bartel and great defense by Niemann.
Exhilarating stuff, great commentary also very instructive bru
thanks a lot!
WEIRD STUFF FOR SURE those guys we're having fun I believe
Fantastic creativity from both players!
Embarrassing for the stockfish team..
The neurotoxins speak for themselves.
Who's the daddy now, eh? A brilliant computer prep by Bartel! 👏🏼🎉
Not exactly sure why, but I've gone from "not really being a fan of your videos" to thinking you're one of the best chess commentators on youtube.
Your enthusiasm for the games you choose to cover is contagious.
Thanks for doing these. Cheers.
Such a good channel.
Thanks very much! I’ve been working a lot on the delivery to make it more engaging etc so I dunno maybe helps. Glad you enjoying anyway appreciate the feedback
Excellent commentary of an exciting game. Thanks.
thanks very much!
Ask him to play a game without his Chip
Cool game. Good analysis as always. 👍
Thanks very much!
Niemann had a +10 on stockfish and lost.
Magnus was spot on.
04:40 Cha cha slide reference was great!!!!
Haha thanks
I had a dream last night that Hans was teaching me chess while visiting a common relative for thanksgiving (we do not share a common relative in case that was unclear)
Did you learn anything?
@@SelectCircle I was asking him how he thinks about the game and the moves, and he was describing a system in which each square has several values such as how many pieces attack it from each side, how many could attack it within one move, two moves, etc. And then he did some math with that
@@letsgobrandon4601 Wow! Very productive dream.
Poor Niemann, having a brain fart in a winning position is hard.
Kudos GM Martel for playing so brilliantly.
Hans was literally in a completely Winning position....so devastating!
WILD attack and defense 👏
this game was wild! Great video
Thanks a lot !
That's a very wild game 😅
Too bad for Hans he didn’t find that Qh6+ move might’ve changed the outcome I thought he did a good job fending off the oncoming pawns in the beginning I’ve had games like that where opponent sends all the pawns they can to complicate matters thanks for the game enjoy your day
why does hans always have a facial expression that indicates something is up his wazoo?
Very good commentary but I think after you finish the game you should talk for another few of minutes about Niemann or the tournament or some other aspect of the game. Viewers who don't want to hear it can turn it off but lots of us want to hear some more from you.
Thanks very much I’ll bear in mind, mainly I don’t waffle too much cuz everyone disappears once I say game is over!
Niemann is such a charming fellow. 😅
Opponent risky play made hans niemman game play wrong but it was hans not defending properly
Excellent analysis as usual.
thanks a lot!
I'm glad top players are playing like this instead of the usual drawish stuff.
Maybe Hans' computer is on the blink??
Reminds me my barbarian attacks😅 hard to calculate, but there could be something
Title is a bit misleading. Bartel was the one playing crazy romantic attacking chess, Niemann's chess felt pretty mediocre here and focused mostly on responding to black... I get that it seems absurd how Niemann misses somewhat obvious critical tactics, but maybe the video should be titled "Insane game" to address both of these aspects. By the title of the video I thought Hans would end up winding until the very ending moments
Sorry yeah I was more trying to reference how one minute he’s incredible and next minute making huge blunders
Hmm, not the second coming of Fischer I guess...
The constant sidelines you went into made this impossible to follow.
Apologies!
...good old chess...no Berlin & no London system...
He had something surgically implanted. Way too much is abnormal for someone who is a caught & admitted cheat.
We didn't do that. He did.
👉"All I wanted to do is raise my ELO to play against better players" -Hans Niemann
When the battery of your device gives up...
When Niemann goes wrong, it’s usually because he moves the correct piece but to the wrong square … as though he’s sure of which piece to move, but not where … just saying.
What an absolutely stupid comment.
This is what happens when you say dumb s*** like, "the chess speaks for itself," when asked about your in-game analysis post-game: it proves you either did what you were accused of or got extremely lucky. I hope Niemann learns to be less of a raging douche canoe, but I doubt that happens.
Good trait, We need more creativity, bot chess is the biggest boor…go Hans!
It's nice to see how fast those beads transmit data.
I bet Carlsen's internal gear is much better.
So what was his highest lead? 7? That would be a good end of year recap video for 2023…highest leads blown. There’s gotta be a few dozen implosions worth gawking at. Even if it’s ten, that be worth checking out.
Yeah altho I might struggle digging all the games out is the thing
Niemann’s skill is developing more and more everyday
Incredible how black saved the game😂😂
crazy for them to turn on the radio wave jammer at the crucial moment
I don't think clickbait titles will be good for your channel. This wasn't Niemann's chess, it was all Bartel's idea to sac the knight and bust open Niemann's kingside. Niemann couldn't find the winning continuation. Not "bizarre" by Niemann at all, he played like anybody else in a difficult tactical situation.
Thanks for the feedback, yeah the pov I was coming from I meant how one minute he is finding amazing moves the next blundering horrendously, very inconsistent at times, but I take the point thank you
Fortune favors the brave. Couldn't Niemann save the game by playing 2. e7 after 1...Qd6 in the endgame, ditching a pawn to paralyze black's queen after 2...Qxe7 3.d6 Qd7? Without pawns it's a theoretical draw, with pawns it may not be as simple, but at least white has an extra h-pawn to distract black's king.
Niemann's chess utterly bizarre? It was Bartel who was doing the crazy stuff. Too bad Hans missed the win.
Awesome game and Awesome Analysis!!
Thanks as always!
stockfish doesn't play weirdly what are u talking about 🤔🤔🤔
COLD-BUM
Interesting. Should look into Hans play with a Russian at the helm.
Crazy game
Fantastic game!
Nice game!!!
Great fight
Nucking futs!
Niemann has bizarre chess? Seems like Bartel was the weird one this whole game. Constantly making bad moves. Who wouldnt play weird against weirdness? Magnus is proving all this recently with his crazy pawn moves the past few games. When someone is constantly playing poor moves it makes someone second guess haha
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This is outrageous! Bartel is cheating, there's no way he can beat Niemann! For god's sake check his butt! Or at least have Kramnik do a thoughtful analysis on his timing!
Mr. Epic Chess, I should warn you I won't be watching any more videos with Mateusz Bartel, and if you keep featuring that player I will have to unsubscribe!
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V surprising blunder even I could have seen the correct move. Hans cheats or is a hot head