Why New York's Plum Island is Totally Forbidden
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
- Plum Island, located off the northeastern coast of Long Island, New York, has a rich history spanning centuries. Originally known as "Isle des Plumes" by early French settlers due to its abundant bird population, it later became a haven for pirates and smugglers during the colonial era. In the 19th century, it was used as a quarantine station for diseased livestock, helping prevent the spread of diseases to mainland farms. During World War II, the island was taken over by the U.S. government and used for military purposes. In 1954, the Plum Island Animal Disease Center was established by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, where research on infectious animal diseases, including foot-and-mouth disease, was conducted. Today, the island remains a site of scientific research, though its future is uncertain amidst discussions of potential closure and redevelopment.
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Hey everyone, here's a quick clarification: 0:07 -should be "off the coast of Long Island" - Thanks for watching!
That's not a clarification, it's the correction of a pretty obvious 100 mile mistake.
More like off the end of Long Island.
I mean plum island is cool and all but you might find Gull island and great gull island and the gull island bombing range more interesting , knights templar ties ... the whole works. Plumb island is more of a distraction so you don't look at things just past it.
@@Pocketfarmer1 thanks for clearing that up, great video!
Shouldn't that be "Long Guyland"?
“ I don’t believe anything is true until the government denies it “ ~ Jim Marrs
amen to that.
well said!!! was just going to comment that "...and we believe the government now??" come on
I did not know who Jim marrs was. I guess he has some pretty good books
Thanks for the name now I have someone else to read
@@cokesquirrel 👍
@@deevee4200 right? 👍.
SMFH
My Dad worked out at the end of Long Island for awhile, related to a marine biology program. He had the chance to go out to the island to do some research on wildlife habitats. He said the security was some of the most intense he has seen in his life.
Cornel has bio center in Southold
Makes total sense, right? Unbelievable security to keep known communicable animal diseases from spreading. Sure. That's all they are doing.
Hmmmm....like the island of Dr. Moreau
@cvn6555
Actually that is all they are doing and soon it will all be moving to Manhattan Kansas
In terms of security you do need clearance to get on the island but it is not insane
Groups interested in coastal artillery where looking at Fort Terry when I was there.
Its no secret. Not if you live on eastern long island. Every resident knew exactly what was going on there
Dr Hannibal Lecter asked in 1 novel if BoP was sending him to "Anthrax" Island, Plum Island.
Can you elaborate?
Its common knowledge on long island that plum island is where lymes disease originated from.
If you remember “Silence of The Lambs” that’s where Clarice offered to send Hannibal Lechter
Yes!
But want he locked away in the asylum?
Anthrax island
Fly fly fly
And he didn't bite.
Plum Island is where Lyme Disease escaped in the 1950s. Newsweek did a big article in 2009.
As we ALL know, viruses NEVER escape their labs... (*EYEROLL*)
@@guyfaux3978In this case it was a weaponized syphilis bacterium.
@@richardross7219 Borrellia is not Syphillis. It IS a Spirochete similar to Syphillis. Borrellia was not weaponized but it probably did escape from the research facility on P.I. Borrellia has been known and studied in Europe for half a century or more. I am well acquainted with Borrelliosis/Lyme Disease... I was infected 3 times and had it for almost 10 years. It nearly killed me and left me disabled. After having every "expert" tell me I couldn't have Lyme ("because it isn't here") and refused to treat or even test me for it, I had to become a medical researcher and that's how I found research information that helped cure me. Well... I'm still alive anyway. The research was done at Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Research Center in Connecticut. I recently tried to find the published research papers again and it appears that they have been scrubbed from the internet.
Then why is Lyme disease present in Europe?
No. It could not have. The government said so. Never mind the main outbreak hotspot was on Long Island
Plum Island is off the east end of Long Island, not NYC. NYC is like 90 miles away or so.
Yeah. This island is as far from NYC as I am and I'm in northwest Connecticut. 90 miles is about right.
Yea, but people not from NY only know about NYC
@@BackJackJohnnyDebt5708 It wouldn't have taken much effort to say "East of New York City, on the eastern tip of Long Island..."
Also, did you not read the comment literally above yours?
@@BackJackJohnnyDebt5708 The channel is It's History, not It's Geography, and it shows.
@@whyjnot420 No he has a point, people not from NY think the entire state is NYC and then a big waterfall if you drive a few minutes west. They neglect the other 8 million people who live here
I owned a home in Amagansett for years.
All of the year round residents knew to stay away from Plum Island. You couldn’t get anywhere near it since it was so heavily guarded.
It was an open secret that it was a government run lab that “dealt”with nasty infectious diseases.
Such a beautiful area, but you were definitely near the twilight zone.
And yes, there were definitely experiments with ticks as vectors or delivery systems for a wide variety of infectious diseases, Lyme disease being one of the many.
Lyme (includes other tick borne diseases) is the fastest growing notifiable diseases in this country according to the cdc.
Most people think it’s only Lyme, but there are many other tick borne diseases in this country. They’re all nasty and can be very difficult to treat.
Thank you for sharing this interesting story!
You are quite correct, Anaplasmosis is a disease carried by ticks. It caused the death of my mother.
There should be no secrets. Are we sure this wasn't the first epstein island? We are never told the truth. "No public knowledge", don't ever forget that. Wake up knowing you are lied too. Begin there!
One in Florida puts you in a coma
I grew up on LI and you're 100% correct about Plum Island. Spent summers at the Point boating, fishing & hanging on the beach and my Uncle who was a fisherman had plenty of stories. Always seemed to have more of a tick problem if you lived closer to the place.
I had a coworker that worked there back in the 1980’s. He was not allowed to have birds as pets and it was an adventure to get there.
He said he was lucky to get 4 hours of work because he need a lot of traveling time and also a lot of time for cleaning up.
The biggest threat is the government.
And those that own the government.
The NGO’s that own DADDY government
It’s created Jeff - The whole class of “men” (lol) that hide behind: “I’m jus doin muh jawb dude bro” class…
And then Jeff
They don’t understand why they end up in divorce court years later 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nope, the biggest threat is Donald and his MAGA cultist.
The government is owned and run by billionaires. You're falling for parlour tricks
Very cool video. My grandfather worked as a researcher on the island from the early 60s to the early 90s. He never really spoke too much about what they did on the island, but he did sometimes jokingly allude to them doing things with dangerous diseases. Wish I could ask him about it, but he passed away a long time ago.
What agency? What was his specialty?
Yea, if everything they did was so noble and protective of our farm animals then why all the secrecy?
@igregmart what secrecy? Research is published in peer reviewed journals. You can go on usda websites to find out what they do
I have worked on the island and while I was there there were history enthusiasts looking at the old coastal defense fort.
There is high security because you do not want swine fever or hoof and mouth disease leaving the island.
Fort Detrick MD has the Devils Workshop. ☣️ The Army Medical Research lab. 🔬
So your grandfather is no better than Dr. Mengele.
right Lyme disease just coincidentally popped up right in that same spot
The alpha gal meat allergy (from lone star ticks) is even more suspicious, IMO.
Yeah right, closed to the public so noone found out that they were busy spreading diseases. I don't buy the line that nothing shady was going on there.
Don't worry they are moving to the center of cattle industry in Kansas...no problem here🥵...oh Scientific journals...sooo secure and accurate.🤓
Nothing to see hear move along now. 🤓🥸
Right!? Like this dude actually believes they “sent all research studies to be peer reviewed” … yeah ooook 😂
I live on the North Fork of Long Island and we used to have the scientists come into the restaurant I worked at.
They kind of reminded me of the science team from Half Life 1
Ryan, have you read the book Lab 257?? I respectfully suggest you do. I would like your opinion or perhaps another video on Plumb Island.
The Island of Dr. Moreau!
@@impalasupersport6171 "Lab 257" tells the REAL FACTS of what went on on Plum Island, not this concocted fairy tale!
Who played half life 1
@@nicholaslandolina Who didn’t?
Plum Island was also a holding area for Operation Paperclip participants. They even had English and civics classrooms to prepare them for integration.
Yeah because it was still an active Army base until about 1950 when the Coastal Artillery Corps was disbanded.
You lost me when you said there was no classified activity here. I’m not here for the “official” story
Right lol yeah we just test dominos recipes here... cow explodes from virus😂
If we know anything about government viral testing, it's not about "finding diseases before they strike" - it's about creating them and then having increasingly relaxed security and safety procedures that lead to an outbreak.
Yeah! Like Fort Detrick where Fauci and his lot were doing their experiments with the precursor to "covid". Where they never had any "accidents" where materials "escaped" from the facility! Research the residential areas around Detrick and what happened there!
Bingo - don’t forget the insider trading aspect… that’s where the beta males make their money in order to buy women.
Lmao… so the government was behind Typhoid Mary, bubonic plague…. Ever think that maybe there was an outbreak bc of the loss of habitat, the destination of the wolf population, that led to a deer population explosion. Lyme disease has been around for 1000s of years… not everything is a government conspiracy.
the island should be kept as is as the unquie and mostly untouched ecosystem is such a contrast to how Long Island has been built up. If anything, it should be made into a sort of nature preserve and the wildlife documented
Wow!! Best comment on this whole thread.. it was once for farmers.. it should have stayed that way.
Just sitting there does nothing for the people. There is a nature preserve near by on shelter island and by riverhead. They should let boy scouts and gals camp there 1/2 the summer and then have it available for campers 2nd half of the summer. No restaurants. No buildings but bathrooms. No snack bar. No general store. Just camping. You bring all in all bring all out.
@@joebudi5136 the problem is, people WON'T "bring it all out". People are disgusting slobs. And no matter what the rules are, there's going to be trash left, and also, nature destroyed-rocks graffitied, flowers picked, etc. Not only that, access roads and gatehouses would have to be built, land cleared for the restrooms, and then rights groups will demand the campground be made accessible, and soon all the true natural beauty will be compromised, or gone completely. It always happens that way. As soon as people come to an untouched area, it always changes for the worse. Scout wilderness camps would be okay, because one of their moral guidelines is respecting and protecting nature. But inviting the general public is just asking for trouble.
As an aside, it doesn't really matter if there's another island sanctuary nearby. Islands, by virtue of what they are, are their own isolated ecosystems. Granted, as close as these islands are to each other, and the mainland, they most likely have a lot of flora and fauna in common. But they're also still their own standalone systems, too. And because of that, they're fragile and precious-and once they're gone, we can never get them back, not the way they once were.
So much of this world is developed and scarred by us humans. We're losing our resources. We need to protect them. We need to protect our world, before it's too late. We need to focus on keeping what little unspoiled, natural beauty we have left, just the way it is.
@@joebudi5136could also have the Boy Scouts and other things like that go there to tend to the local ecosystem. Once population kicks up properly there then let outsiders in but to only visit so we don’t immediately f that up.
Absolutely. Even though Gardiners Island is privately owned they keep it much the same way it was in the 1600’s.
"right off the coast of the city" -- by about 100 miles.
Naïve, Plum Island is located near Old Lyme CT, where Lyme Disease was first diagnosed and named for. You do the math
he lost me at the lyme disease line !!! he's a propaganda mouthpiece.
A three year old can do better math than you. Lyme is a bacteria that has been found in mummified remains over five THOUSAND years old. You may have to take your shoes off to do that math.
@@AZ-vt7dtHe did go on to refute it.
No he’s not lying. Lyme disease was created by scientists in Plum island when they experimented with ticks. BTW they are doing experiments with mosquitoes.
I do believe that ticks were first weaponized at the Plum Island facility. Please offer an alternative explanation.
odd when there was foot and mouth in both mexico and canada but none in the U.S. Amazing respect for the borders that organism.
maybe americans werent force feeding Bovines a cannibalism diet at the time
That's what vigilance, quarantine, and culling (if necessary) can accomplish, when someone is protecting the food supply of a large, great nation. That's why the research in hoof and mouth was sequestered far to the east on Plum Island in the first place. They were studying a deadly disease, in a secure location, far away from the main cattle lands, while protecting the cattle industry and our food supply. (And, btw, the prevailing winds go out to sea, away from land, in the unlikely event of a breach.) Hoof and mouth is highly contagious, and if it gets into any individuals in a herd, the entire herd would have to be destroyed, before it can spread elsewhere. Can you imagine the pandemonium if our meat supply was obliterated? Plum Island research facility was put there to avoid such a scenario.
How I know?: My dad was in agriculture school when Plum was being built. I believe they actually had a tour of the facilities. I've also known a number of people who've worked there over the years, both in science and facilities management.
That's because they were feeding cattle other cows
@@robertnussberger6449wasn’t that mad cow? Not hoof and mouth?
What about birds as a disease vector? Rumors concerning Plumb island as lyme disease origin point.? "It isn't." is hardly an exhaustive defense. Mapping of very early cases clearly show Plumb Island as a central location with cases first showing up in Lyme CT and the Northeastern Long Island shore communities.
Plum Island is closer to Boston than NYC.
I mean that's not quite true but I see how one could consider traffic as a factor... It's closer to the capitals of Connecticut & Rhode Island than it is to New York City not that New York City use the capital of New York but it basically is...
It’s about the same distance as the crow flies.
@@seanboukerI live closer to NYC than Plum Island and I am no where near NYC.
@@kenzbt1 a mystery
There's another Plum Island a little north of Boston Harbor.
I went to grad school in New England and my research involved the use of a mass spectrometer owned by the EPA. One day when i was running my samples i noticed a sample box off to the side that said "Plum Island Organ Samples". I just slowly backed up and stayed as far away from that box as i could get
I'm from long island, I never knew much about military forts during ww2. I'm excited to research this!
Everything I ever learned was always about a research facility. Thanks for the info, great clip
Camp Upton, Grandfather trained there for WWII, National Weather Service from Upton, AKA BROOKHAVEN NATIONAL LAB
I did an externship on the island during my final year of vet school (‘92-93), helping run a foreign animal disease recognition training program for Agriculture Canada, while their usual facilities were being renovated. I actually slept in the guest house on the island most of that week.
Engineering Bio Weapons is the Umbrella Facility, an island facility in Resident Evil.
Your reporting is accurate, as I had worked there for many years as a vendor repairing telecommunications, and some times working in labs I had to enter changing clothes and shower on the way out, all the scientists and maintenance people were very open as to what they were working on , cool place to have worked at.
A list of some cities (across 4 states) closer to NYC than Plum Island
2 miles: Jersey City, NJ
9 miles: Newark, NJ
11 miles: Elizabeth, NJ
16 miles: Yonkers, NY
17 miles: Paterson, NJ
25 miles: Edison, NJ
34 miles: Stamford, CT
42 miles: Norwalk, CT
52 miles: Trenton, NJ
54 miles: Bridgeport, CT
53 miles: Toms River, NJ
70 miles: New Haven, CT
80 miles: Camden, NJ
80 miles: Philadelphia, PA
You obviously don't where Plum Island is!
You forgot Lyme, CT. 8 miles, the place Lyme disease originated.
I feel you're a little too accepting of the government's story here. Also, isn't it a bit convenient that the secretive island was supposed to be sold to private institutions, but at the last second it remained in the government's hands, perhaps another example of appearing to be open and not secretive, while remaining closed and secretive.
Stop looking for a conspiracy in every niche of life.
@@williamrizzo8574 My initial reply was to another video, so apologies on the seemingly non sequitur. That aside, I stand by my assessment. Don't judge anyone by a single post. I generally argue against most conspiracies, but I will question government and military responses. They are often opaque and deceptive, sometimes for good reasons, others times not. I won't judge you and say you're naive for accepting the official story. I don't know you well enough to do that; nor do you know enough about me to suggest I'm looking for a conspiracy in every niche of life. Far from it.
Well done. I approve this post.
Indeed!
@@williamrizzo8574 damn, I probably would have sat down and shut up too.
Anyone who takes the New London CT ferry to Montauk will go right past Plum Island. It is not hidden in any way.
The New London ferry goes to Orient Pt, not Montauk
The description says forbidden.
It's government run, I'm sure it's completely legit.
Yeah right, like everything the govt does.
haha. You are so funny.
It is legit! I know because the government pinky promised!!
🙄
In this case yes. All the juicy stuff happened at fort Detrick in Maryland.
im pretty sure its not foot and mouth disease that makes it forbidden
It’s not forbidden. You can tour it. Title is click bait.
@@udowannun7780 No restricted areass, I doubt that?
@@igregmart there’s an inn on the island. A small market. The whole thing is only 11 miles long. Obviously you can’t get into a lab where they’re doing animal disease research. 🙄There’s a video of the facility on the DHS website.
It's because it is a laboratory that handles diseases that can cross between animals and humans. It is quite easy to understand that dangerous diseases means highly restrictive precautions.
Had its own ferry for the workers, not cars.
The island also has the oldest building in ny
Its essentially the size of a tool shed
Its not "off the coast of the city." It's nowhere near New York City. It's nearly a two hour drive with no traffic from the city limits.
I think you would benefit from looking at world maps and understanding the size of the world to get a better understanding of scale.
@@bob20011 you're kidding me, right? Plum island isn't "off the coast of (NYC)" no matter how you rationalize it.
That timing is pretty optimistic, even with no traffic. (And when would that ever happen?)
@patriciamorgan6545 I just checked Google maps. Leaving now (at noon) orient point to douglaston queens is 1 hour 46 minutes
@TonysMusic1974 OK, Queens-Nassau border. I was calculating in the extra time into Manhattan. And also thinking about summer and autumn harvest time traffic out east. You really have to know the back farm roads to avoid some of that!
Nothing “escapes” that they don’t want to “escape”.
It's good to see this video.I enjoy local history. My parents moved to Long Island after World War 2. My father served with the 3rd.Infantry and as was the case with other relatives, they moved from the city to Long Island. I don't see many local history videos, and yet Long Island has a very interesting history. Thanks for posting this.
If you like local history, look into the activities around Setauket and across LI during the Revolutionary War. Fascinating stuff re: Washington's spy ring that very much helped to win the war.
It does. Thank you for reminding viewers.
My understanding of local geography puts Plum Island directly across from the Lyme River in Connecticut. The story of Lyme disease escaping from the island will not go away. So, if Lyme disease did not come from Plumb Island where did it come from?
Limes?
Not quite directly. If the lab leak story we're true then it would have appeared on the North Fork before or along with the cluster found in Lyme.
Lyme Disease was discovered (but not deeply studied or named) over 130 years ago.
Its only 7.5 miles according to Google Maps. I live on the CT shoreline and I've had Lyme 3 times.....very suspicious :) LOL
@@TeeveepicksuresCould it be that it was named after the location where the people started raising a stink about it?
@@003333333333 That's where the first study was done.
7:44 "... as the government wants to maintain an image of "secure, but _not secretive."_
"Yup, no secrets here, just a lovely historic lighthouse. You like lighthouses, don't'cha? Sure you do. Oops, no photography, we don't want to disturb the history and the wildlife, but here are some lovely postcards for sale."
~ says the completely non-secretive US Government. 🤔
Yuppppp.
I lived toward the end of the North Fork of LI. Our daily Fedex driver always had official packages going to Plum Island in the truck. Kind of gave us pause sometimes. What might be in there? TheNorth Fork of LI had a ferry terminal just for Plum Island workers. And they had a Never-leave policy for a lot of stuff. Workers could go back and forth, but for a lot of things that were broght to the Island, it was prohibited to take them back off the island.
I got to tour plum island around 2015. it was mostly the natural parts but the lab and what they do was explained to us. we did need to be cleared by homeland security and had badges. got to photograph a lot. my hope is that it becomes a state park and people can camp and enjoy the beauty without harm
People will only destroy it.
I plan on buying it for $1. I shall then convert into a ............. 😳
Are there any beaches? Looked very rocky on the side he kept showing
@@samanthab1923 its and island man
It’d be great to see these pictures.
We're not thrilled to have NBAF in Kansas. Not one bit.
The Kansas facility will be a BSL-4 lab. Plum is only BSL-2.
@@patriciamorgan6545 That doesn't make me more thrilled.
The Government is just transferring the risk to a less-populated area. Also, I wonder if it will be easier to attract scientific talent to Kansas?
@@nghtwtchmn129 IDK about attracting talent. And while definitely less populated, it puts an Army base at risk if their lab security protocols fail.
This was very interesting! I live on Long Island and there are several little islands off the east coast. Fisher Island is one I'd like to know more about.
Sailed past it many times. Multi million dollar summer homes. I have a friend who grew up on the island. Her dad was the only plumber living there at the time and did quite well for himself as such. If the wealthy folks had a plumbing emergency they could call him or wait for someone else to come over by boat or plane.
@@chrisworthen1538 Beautiful area!
Technically part of LI, but culturally part of Connecticut. It even uses CT phone numbers.
@@lordvlygar2963 At one point ALL of LI was part of Connecticut, but I agree.
Ive heard there is child trafficking off of Gardiners Island.
"Little Wuhan."
Exactly!
Fauci's Folly
Lyme did come from plum island look at ticks travel map
False. Ever wonder where "Lyme's disease" originated? There is a HUGE clue in its name.
No, it actually came from Lyme, Connecticut.
(10:05) Seems like an awful lot of vents coming through the roof for an "Air-tight Facility", right ?
You have to have ventilation. Just hope that their air scrubbers work.
Right ! @@cuddlepaws4423
This was a lot closer to me than anything else I have seen on this channel so far. Just 60 miles as the bird flies. Maybe something from Connecticut itself (where I am) will be coming. I know Ct. is pretty small, but it also one of the oldest states. So there is a fair bit of history to explore.
addendum: 3 quick examples are the first law college in the US in Litchfield. The first condensed milk factory in the world in Torrington and the first use of a steam turbine to generate public electricity in Hartford.
Holy crap.. the first condensed milk ??? Funny how nys are the only ones that dont use it.. that is a fabulous product!!
I toured the Mark Twain house in Hartford.
I spent a lot of time growing up, peering at Plum through binoculars from Old Colony Beach in Old Lyme. Still do on the few occasions that I get to the beach. Plum always had a mysterious allure and still does to some extent. As far as Lyme Disease goes, I straddle the fence, but don’t discount it out of hand.
I actually have been on the island for my job with State Government. The best part is that they have a souvenir shop where I bought a mug with the island and the logo. Interesting place.
Great read. Island 257. Tells you everything that was going on out there.
Plum Island about 100 mile east of NYC. You might have been thinking of Heart Island, NYC a semi secret Island.
Hart island is no secret, it lies off of city island and is the NYC Potter's field. It had a missile base more than 50 years ago and had a hospital at one point, but is not secret. It is true that the only ppl allowed there are those burying the dead and some families of ppl buried there.
So are the rumors true then?
Closer to 90 miles as the bird flies. But your point remains unblemished.
Hart island
Not so secret any more. Open to the public on Tuesdays.
I had a kindergarten teacher who spoke of vacationing there in 1959
I only watched the first few minutes and I don’t believe a word of it
Yeah a load of concocted, government issued BS!
You ought to
@@BenGates101You need to give a reason. All this dabbler does is repeat official slogans. You say yes to it.
I visited Plum Islan back in 2014, it was a unique experience to see these beaches with no human footprints. The abandoned buildings were also interesting, with people having left lunches and coffee cups on their desks.
Yeah he says Lyme disease didn't come from there. Case closed. Then in the next sentence says how it became a bio lab where they had to kill any deer that came there. How about the birds? Did they kill all them also. The Lyme disease out break map says otherwise.
I see your drinking the government Kool-Aid the government never makes mistakes
Yeah, no secretive research there because "everything is submitted to international peer review." Which of course, begs the question.
Across from Lyme Connecticut. Any questions?
I never knew about this island. Thanks for this video.
@6:22 ...also, everyone's sinuses, lungs, and alimentary canal are steam-cleaned with modern industrial machinery prior to leaving the facility...
It’s not much of a rumor that Lyme Disease which was first diagnosed in Lyme, Connecticut, very close to Plumb Island is from such a near by place. Whoever made this video did not do their homework beyond government websites.
Imagine a government lab doing benign infectious disease research without being tempted to see what nasty organism they can cook up.
Please, can one more person comment that “It’s not near New York City”.
It’s not near NYC 😂
This is a reasonable take on Plum Island but it's mostly stock PR stuff. However, I would take exception to one important point. (I worked there decades ago so things may have changed since I left.) While I was there, the lab worked only on animal diseases, but some of these diseases could infect humans. We even had a non-FDA approved vaccine that we required all personnel who worked in the lab to receive.
I still tell stories sometimes about cows with two heads but the reality of the lab is much more mundane. I personally have little trust in the honesty of our federal government, but Plum Island is not some secret diabolical facility. It's just a research lab working on some strange and dangerous animal diseases.
Lol... at 4:33 and 7:53... look at all the fume extractors on the roof. That is where all that "Negative pressure" goes, hopefully through filtration. As long as the filters are maintained properly.
It’s a great fishing 🎣 spot as well! 👍🏻😎
Another interesting video. Thankyou.
The Nelson DeMille novel, Plum Island, is absolutely fantastic!! Highly recommend it. 👍👍👍👍 Nelson DeMille is the author of some great novels, several have been made into movies, like The General's Daughter with John Travolta and Madeline Stowe - Plum Island features his other main character, a homicide detective named John Corey - all his novels are great!!
A good read it was.
Love DeMille’s books.
The overhead "picture" @ 7:20 or so looks odd..Check out the cars for reference...what's going on there?
It's actually pretty easy to access. Have been there like 4 times on a sea doo.
So, did they ever identify what the Montuk monster was actually?
Montauk monster was terrifying. That beak haunts me
Plum Island was used by various government agencies as a quarantine center. Many zoo animals were quarantined there before release to their destinations. USDA, APHIS, VS (veterinary services) was one of the agencies working there.
What about birds? They must land there all the time
Man that place would probably be the safest place to go if there were a zombie apocalypse
If it weren't for all the diseases stored on site there.
My grandfather worked there!
I bet the locals had some awesome parties there back in the day, before the advent and propagation of modern unmanned security gadgets
Maybe they want you to think the research is above board and free to access.
Nice video
Love the street name "Animal Disease Dr". Imagine putting that on your business card 🙂
"Rule #1; I dont believe anything the government tells me" -George Carlin
Plum Island is not off the coast of the city, it is off the coast of Long Island, in Suffolk County.
Ive lived in the government R&D capitol of the country since 1972 , Brookhaven Township, something in the 50s was moved from Montauks Camp Hero to Plum Island , I have the pictures , my family was USAF R&D during Vietnam and landed at the TS Grumman Base in Calverton NY and the Brookhaven Lab was invloved, my mom was DOD R&D before Vietnam, 6 years USAF and DOD 30 plus years after, my parents met on Clark AFB working on Operation Popeye, which landed at Grumman Calverton NY , as a kid I remember seeing the signs around Grumman that said "No photos" I knew in the early 80s a Operation Paperclip Nazi ran Plum island from the 50s and died in 1999, you talking about a small community with people with all kind of different Top Secret clearances, everyone on Long Island knew Plums real job was to beable to drop a small insect into a city and whip it out without firing a shot, Plum Island is 5 miles from Lymes county, and the CDC named it after the first place it was found, it only takes common since and the flow of the Gulf Stream to figure this one out...get a map, 2023 Flying Ticks: Two Words Nobody Wants To Hear "Yes, it seems the disease-carrying arachnids that are more prevalent than ever may have a secret superpower" "Unfortunately, that is not the experience my kids will remember from their childhood. Each of my three have had dozens of ticks pulled off their bodies and plucked from their epidermises. (That’s the plural of “epidermis”. I googled it.) And we’ve all undergone the antibiotic rounds that prevent against Lyme disease. It’s just the way it is now" Pennsylvania "So it’s with a sobbing face that I tell you scientists have just discovered a new tick superpower. Apparently, the little devils can zoom across small airgaps using only the force of static electricity.(found on water) And you can read all about it in one of my latest stories for National Geographic!"
Read 'Lab 257' by Michael Christopher Carroll, then revisit the "Lyme disease didn't originate here" claim.
Plumb Island is a bsl2 up to bsl4 lab and they were moving alot of research from plum island to NBAF in Manhattan Kansas from what i heard and understood when ibwas installing the biodoors and tornado doors for NBAF. Amd NBAF is a bsl4 lab and the lab next to that is a bsl1 to bsl3 lab.
My grand father worked there for years !
Operation Paper Clip
Exactly- Eric Traub Nazi bioligist was working on tick bourne illnesses to infect Soviet cattle and people prior to setting up shop at Plum Island. Lyme Connecticut is right across the water.
We caught some nice bluefish off Plum Island years ago.
The US Coast guard patrols the waters around Plumb Island 24/7. I've sailed buy the island several times and observed with binoculars mand look out stations all around the small island. It seems as well secured as Fort Knocks! ???
There's a Plum Island in MA also.
Plum Island is not part of New York City.
Great history.
Probably setting up new headquarters for Dr. Fouchi to do his life saving work for the folks
It sounds like their greatest achievement has been the level of safety. The world has experienced outbreaks in the past due to simple failures of processes.
It is valuable as a nature preserve as well, the presence of the facility guarantees that will remain. Perhaps the facility should just stay. It's not like we are immune to outbreaks.
do a video of Fishers Island, NY and why is not part of Connecticut
Strange that the Orient Point Car Ferry to New London, Connecticut passes by Plum island within a half-mile of the research center several times a day.
Maybe now but not before
@@BenGates101 Why should now be any different?
@@BenGates101I rode on it a couple of summers ago. It still goes fairly close to Plum Island
Didn't the government move the disease center to the midwest where diseases could be spread more easily?
Read Bitten by Kris Newby and make your own decision. I’ve had Lyme for over 20 years. I’ve done my research and have made mine.
Isn't this where Lime Disease was developed?
Yep.
Only in rumors.
@@lordvlygar2963 Your ignorance doesn't define reality.
@@paulskopic5844 Right back at you. Here is some quick education for you, and everyone else that believes this ridiculous rumor. Lyme disease has been around for thousands of years. Otzi the Iceman had Lyme disease. He is the oldest known human with it. The disease has been carried by ticks and is endemic to wherever they dwell. New England is rife with ticks and have been written about since the 1700's. The first identified case in written history was in Scotland in the 1700's off the island of Jura. That island was full of ticks.
What you are basing your unchecked rumor on is the current popular name. The current popular name was coined after a concentrated amount of cases were noted in Lyme and Old Lyme Connecticut, back in 1975.
Sounds like it might be a good place to call a sanctuary city.
They mentioned Plum Island in Silence of the Lambs