Top 10 Most Effective Roman Weapons
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"The hastati, triarii and principes all had spears, everyone had spears"
Why i imagined those tv shows where they give the audience gifts, but like with the caesar as host, screaming _YOU GET A SPEAR, YOU GET A SPEAR, EVERYOONEE GET A SPEAAR!_
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The late republic: the spearmen carry swords, and the first men are in the second line.
It is sort of disturbing that the TV shows and games usually give you the impression that the Romans use nothing but gladius and pilum.
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Spearmen: Noo, you can not just close the distance!
Legionair: Haha, gladius goes stab, stab.
Only because of his big scrotum.
@@madao7865 The big scutum also helped though.
Legionaries during the late Republic and Principate basically had spears too. Most varieties of pila were sturdy enough to be used as a spear. Its primary use was a throwing weapon like a javelin, but using it as a spear in melee was pretty common and was attested to in the writings of Caesar, Plutarch, Arrian, etc.
@@Intranetusa This is what I was thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if carrying two pila was done with the purpose of carrying one for throwing and one for use in melee combat. And like Metatron mentioned, Romans used the Phalanx, and a pilum is just as good for that purpose as a spear.
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I ♥️ the Romans als their weapons and armor also Gladius is the best 👍👍👍.
Here's an interesting fact. While usually, you can find Greek latinized words in the Latin languages, "Hastatoi" might be one of the rare occasions when Greeks loaned a Latin word into theirs. In Greece we say the weather will be "astatos", meaning bad weather with clouds and windy. Could it be, that it came from a metaphor, for when Roman armies used their Hastatoi to throw their hasta and cover the sky in shade for a moment??? I think it might be so. Greetings from Greece!
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So, Roman soldiers would first become Hastati, but don't get a Hasta (spear) because those are actually used by the Triarii, and fight in first line even though "first" means "Principes" who actually fought in the second line. I guess counting wasn't their strong point...
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Truly the Romans use of the Gladius with a Scutum proves that thinking outside the box can lead to great success. Prime example of swords as primary weapons alongside large shields, though as you said, Romans regularly used throwing spears, javelins, pilum as their primary spears. Plus throwing darts for more missile weaponry. Truly the Romans were inventive and adaptable.
Unrelated note for a future video idea. I would love to see tests with side by side comparisons of ax blows, hammer blows, and "murder strokes" from sword cross-guards and pommels. My guess is the swords will by nature of only having a thin blade to grip onto, be less effective, even though the weight of the striking force is now at the far end just like the ax and hammer. Still much better impact than striking hard surfaces with the blade alone. Always been curious how effective reversing a sword to hit like a hammer is to the real thing and how it compares to axes on resistant targets! Especially since sword "murder strokes" are shown in the historical manuals.
I also theorize a stiffer blade should behave more effectively as a handle for murder strokes, with less flex on impact and so more force transferred to the target. Flexible blades should in theory lose more force, but how much, if at all I'm curious to see. It would be great to see tests done by different channels (Like ThegnThrand, Shadiversity, Skallagrim, Scholagladitoria, Tod's Workshop, Modern History TV, Lindybeige or anyone else who wants to try it) using multiple targets. Many different swords to test both 1 and 2 handed as well.
Might even make for good video series to test more targets then compare the results.
Additionally I think thinner or sharper pointed sword cross-guards may provide more penetration than axes to certain targets. Exactly what types might qualify I am very interested to find out with the tests! Now instead use the back spike on a ax and a war hammer and I believe they both should outperform the sword's cross-guard, but who knows? Maybe the swords will surprise us.
As with any holding onto blades test, although it can be done without gloves so long as the blade doesn't slide in your hand, better to wear thick sturdy gloves for safety, improved grip and to absorb the shock from impact.
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It wasnt so much that they had better equipment or better training or were physically superior (romans low protein diet actually meant they were physically weaker then their barbarian enemies) but their greatest streanghts were their flexibility and adaptability. When they got beat by Iberian swordsmen, they copied the sword, when they got beat by cataphracts, they copied the heavy cavalry. Compare them to say Athens or Sparta who relied heavily on a hopolite phalanx where men mostly just used a spear and a shield you can see why having all that gear made legionaires so deadly.
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A video on most effective European blunt weapons would be lovely.
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I like the spatha. It have the reach but can still stab like the gladius.
I just love Anglo-Saxon/viking-ish era sword, so I'll have my pick on the Spatha as well
Same. My favorite sword would be a hand and a half sword (Personally, I really like Templar/crusader swords.) But my number 1 single hand sword would be the spatha with a scutum. Hell, give me a spear, hand and a half sword as a backup, and a scutum, and I'd be set.
same. i can't see why gladius is put higher when spatha is just a better gladius
Zweihander is where its at.
It would nice if you would compare late roman soldiers equippment to high medieval equippment...
Well, they were contemporaries. We just called the Romans of that time Byzantines.
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I know, let´s call it late western roman to high medieval western european. If you want to be that specific. Because the Byzantine equipment changed a lot compared to late western roman euqiment. One could also compare the euqiment change from the roman empire from its first start into the medieval eastern romans until its fall
i did not know that the romans used lawn jarts in battle.
I think spears are most effective when used in a good formation - throwing pilums disrupted the formation and then the gladius was probably better. I think it'S the combination that made it so deadly. But it's just my thoughts.
Dear Metartron great video as always. I´m very interest in roman history. It will be interesting if you could do a video about the Bizantine armor and weapons
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Very informative and well presented! Thank you. A couple of questions, though.
If people had, generally, less armour in the classical period than medieval times, why wasn't the bow used even more by classical armies? Surely, if it works - as it did - against even plate to a degree, surely it would be devastating to soldiers weary light or no armour?
How much were auxiliary forces integrated into the roman army? Were they trained in the roman ways of war, so to speak, or more left to their own devices?
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the slingers were highly effective when Bassus used them against Pacorus keeping the horse archers from flanking with arrows and getting too close minimizing their attack.
I think you underrate the sling, especially compared to the bow. Ancient bows were garbage. but slings were devastating weapons, especially with lead bullets, and during sieges even the non-specialists used staff slings. At 15:36 did you actually say the pilum has better range than a sling? Look more into slings, you seem to have a serious misunderstanding of them.
I remember period sources stating that slings outranged bows.
I heard Metatron say the pilum has a decent range, behind slings and plumbata.
@@ctrlaltdebug I heard "better" than slings and plumbata
Look up the battles of Mount Gindarus, Cilician Gates, and Amanus Pass. Ventidius Bassus used slingers to maximum efficiency against the Parthians
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I read that it was the multiporpose tool of the legions.
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awesome list as usual metatron
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You should do a vid on classifying different weapons by civilizations such as the difference between the xiphos and gladius or dory and hasta etc
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Awesome as always! Have some random questions that have been in the back of my mind though… How did a typical Roman soldier who actually survived a term of service ‘cash out’ his career? Did his legion give him some sort of proof to show anyone in the empire “this is my pension and this is my land“? Did Roman armies have any kind of record keepers to ensure soldiers weren’t lying? Who actually paid that pension / assigned land? Was there any kind of standard veteran affairs service to soldiers after service, or was it all legion by legion? What if that legion was disbanded? Who would take over paying his pension or would the soldier simply be screwed? OK it’s kind of a few questions 😋. Would love to see you do a video on the end of a soldiers career!
I know they were paid partially in salt, and the word 'salary' comes frome salis (salt)
Foot soldiers, often conscripted, were not paid. They got rations of salt and other provisions during their time served, but only officers got land after their service.
Land is rare, soldiers are not.
The use of the hasta rises again for legionaries (and not only heavy melee auxiliaries, especially after Caracalla's edict which nullified their differences in 212) during the Severan era and throughout the 3rd century AD (Middle Imperial period), to the point that during Diocletian's reforms in 284/5 that "created" the Late Roman army, the pila were phased out.
Ironic to see heavy Roman infantry "going back" to "hoplite" tactics, in a sense.
Spears are cheaper. Plus with the reorganization of the Legions into Limitanei, Comitatensis, and Alae its hard to tell if the Limitanei were just Militia, or fully trained regulars that fought the same way as the mobile field army of the Emperor (Comitatensis) which further raises the question of if they were equipped the same way. Its likely the change occured because of political reasons, so were the border armies purposefully equipped inferior to their Imperial Army counterparts, or were the Alae the real difference? Problem is we don't really know because it was either never written down or was lost.
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Also perhaps a video of the battles of Mount Gindarus, Cilician Gates, and Amanus Pass.
Yes the metallurgic technology is exactly right it is ultimately the reason behind the ability to create a rapier as well.
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please metatron XD we want more videos about the roman empire during the middle age...underestimated period for the empire that
only a few talk about it and are interested. more i study this period of time for the empire and more i love it.
constantinople?
I was patiently waiting through the video and was surprised to not see the gladius make its appearance. Little did I know that it would take the first spot. Save the best for last.
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I've always liked the Plumbata. Lawn darts with an attitude! "Hey barbarian dude, catch!"
I love everything ancient Greco-Roman. I wish I had the patience to read because while videos like this are cool,they don't have the same info as books
Sword, armour, shield, helmet, good group tactics. Hard combo to beat at time. Also add training.
How did they deal with enemies that had large amounts of calvary later in when they got rid of the spears? Or was that passed on to aux units at that point?
You should try to do a history video on the cool (possibly weaponised) hat that Pope Urban II wore.
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The Scutum & Gladius are basically synonymous with Rome; it's no surprise that they would make the top of the list.
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Hey Metatron,i was planning on buying a gladius to celebrate my italian heritage,do you have any recommendation?
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the gladius i thinkbwas more of a psicological weapon, if you only got a short sword you gotta get stuck in and kill or be killed, if you got a long spear you can hang back and throw casual thrusts at the enemy without getting too close for comfort
It's always fun how the bottom of the list is all the cool, obscure weapons, then the most effective weapons are invariably basic things like conventional swords and normal spears. Because as neat as the more obscure weapons are, the common ones were common for a reason. When it came to killing the enemy, for thousands and thousands of years, your best bet was either a big knife or a pointy stick.
It must have been shocking for other civilizations used to less-organized methods of warfare to suddenly face the Romans and watch in horror as many of their modes of warfare are neutralized by them immediately. Cavalry gets broken to bits by archers, pila and plumbatae; their own archers are rendered practically useless by the Roman testudo; getting smashed to bits from afar by ballistae and catapults; and finally reaching melee range only to face that big-ass shield and getting stabbed by a thick-ass gladius. Very telling that many of their methods and philosophy of warfare survive to this day. I'm a US Army veteran, and even in basic training, we got a bit of military history teaching, and they immediately mentioned that modern logistics and combat engineering get their origin from the Romans. Truly an amazing civilization.
EDIT: If you haven't done one yet, I would LOVE to see you make a video about Roman combat engineering.
Can you a video on the Parthian and Marcomannic wars during the reign of Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus? Specifically how the Romans became more effective against the Parthians since Carrahe?
I think it would be an interesting discussion to speculate on how Rome would have evolved their military had the core of the Empire survived into the Middle Ages, let's say assuming the western, northern and African parts break off into their nations as occurred in real history, but rather then the Italian, and maybe Greek and Macedonian parts of Rome breaking off into separate city states, the core of the Empire is able to hold it together and regroup and endures into the Middle Ages, while Castile, Aragon, Portugal, France, England, etc all form as they did. How would Rome have adapted their Legions, navies and tactics to the Medieval armies of France, Germany, England and eventual Spain?
...I finally know where lawn darts game came from; it was from when soldiers were in camp and bored, so they would set rings on the ground and lobb their plumbatae to the sets of rings for points or coins for whoever got closest or in the ring...
Can you work on a video or several videos if you got enough material, about siege weapons or/and tactics ? like from 19th century down to as much as you can gather material on?I am sure many viewers would like that, siege weapons are awesome stuff since forts and castles started to be a thing everywere :)
Great info!
Is a "Plumbatae" the weapon the Illiad refers to when a "Dart" is mentioned? The notes in the book I read claims that Dart refers to "arrow", but they're described as being used by people in the midst of battle, and people otherwise using swords, rather than archers or crossbowmen.
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What about the mains or pompeian swords? How would those compare with the gladius hispaniensis?
Even in OT slingers were mentioned.
ive seen some chinese II bc sword and saber reproduction and they are long, does that mean his metalugy was better than the wester one or is there another reason for em using those swords?
0:59 : Yes, and sometimes deadly effective at that. Just take the famous fight between king David of Isreal and Goliath for example. At the time of the fight, David was nothing more than a shepherd boy and Goliath was a 3 meter tall guy... Well, at least it was easier to hit a large target I guess, so maybe not that good to be tall after all...
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Hmmm if you put the scutum in your list, I also insist that the spade, shovel and ax appear there. Everyone knows that the empire was not conquered with the gladius but with the spade ;)
Can you do a video on musketeers, alot of stuff about them is mixed up with how they are portrayed in media and It's difficult to find out anything about them. Can you also cover the differences between musketeers of different European regions, I'm not sure if it's true but, I heard in different regions there were armor and wepon differences. I even read that there were some in Asia. Also what's the difference between a arquebusiers and musketeer
Good stuff!
Each time I watch a Metatron video about Rome, I get reminded of the fact that the Romans were the big daddies of Field Manuals.
@Metatron can you do something on Roman sports, when you have time?
We all know about gladiatorial games and chariot racing, but the citizens must have done other things to stay fit and as recreation, same with the soldiers. Myself, I only know there was a form of ball game...
Metatron I am working on a concept for a for book. Of a modern soldier that is transported to a different world. He a historian and his family were blacksmiths so he grew up around horses. The question I keep asking myself besides Saddles, Sturgis, and Bridals. What are their weapons and armor could he introduced to get a technological advantage to a group of people that have had a regression in technology? Like post fall Roman Empire. Like very early feudal society. If you know some books or something on that or have any ideas and Concepts I would love to hear it. Thank you for your time.
When you think of the technological regression you need to think about Civil Technologies regressing, not military. Think sanitation and centers of learning. A high medieval army (remove firearms and cannons) would absolutely fuck a 1st/2nd Century Roman Legion up. The advantage the Romans had were professionalism and discipline, the professional armies in the medieval era were mercenaries with access to about 900 years of weapons advancement. Just think of the halberd, billhook, poleaxe, and bardiche. All of those weapons are extremely versatile, able to cut and pierce, as well as apply bludgeoning damage to solid plate. Plus the metallurgy was significantly better.
The scorpion, I reckon. The rest wasn't about the efffectiveness of their weapons, just the ability to move guys around on the battlefield.
Where is the best place to buy a Gladius? In the uk?
So was there an intermediary/ from spear to pilum?
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I saw one of my characters in Rome total war picked it up
If u seen enemies go down from a guy throwing these next to u, it must help with morale. It must of felt like game over when u see a wall of roman shields and a rain of projectiles coming at u.
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Regarding Archers its hard to imagine that there would not be some macho prestige in shooting a heavy bow. While we know that romans used composite bows we dont know anything about the drawnweight (i think). Scythian bows are repported to have been 80pounds or more and these predates the Romans.
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Personally, the scutum is number one for me. Once that shield is in place, it doesn't really matter if you have a pugio or a gladius.
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The roman sling. Litterally adding insult to injury.
Greek Fire should be on the list, even if its in the later roman empire greek Fire was a beast in some situations