How to Countersteer a Motorcycle

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Komentáře • 228

  • @MrCrackedJack
    @MrCrackedJack Před 3 lety +25

    As a new rider, I got my brother to help me. We did what we call "follow the leader" and I learned to swerve and play around following him. My first bike is the 03 Yamaha Vstar and he rides a HD 883 and a Honda Rebel 250 and we have a ton of fun together. I started riding because of your videos and I appreciate your faith my man. Keep it up. Riders for life.

  • @benperry2798
    @benperry2798 Před 5 lety +158

    I've always done this without thinking. Now I'm having to stop and think about it. Thinking has never been a good thing for me!!

    • @ragimundvonwallat8961
      @ragimundvonwallat8961 Před 4 lety +2

      the same haha...i didint knew what it was

    • @pkrtaca3336
      @pkrtaca3336 Před 3 lety +2

      Lol same here I was like what is that then I was wtf and I thought some more brain exploded I've been doing that my whole life and never realized it

    • @andersonpereira7042
      @andersonpereira7042 Před 3 lety

      So true dude

    • @china_is_asshole
      @china_is_asshole Před 3 lety +1

      Any updates on the aftermath of your thinking?

    • @kenwittlief255
      @kenwittlief255 Před 2 lety

      Ignore breezelow and his post
      he is on an ego trip and likes to post confusing terminology on videos about countersteering
      if you rake thru his posts, his contention is how the motorcycle is steering, ie which way are the handlebars and front wheel actually pointing in a curve?
      he is correct in that when you turn left the front wheel IS turning slightly to the left
      but the term "counter steering" is referring to what the RIDER is doing, not how the motorcycle is responding to what the rider is doing
      and what the rider is doing is really all that matters - the RIDER has to know, as I approach this sweeping left curve at 70mph, do i apply a force to the handle bars in a CCW direction, like I would in a car, to make the car go left? or do I push the left grip forwards, counter to what I would do in a car?
      THAT is when you have to understand countersteering clearly enough to know which grip to push, or to push harder, or how to switch in the middle of an S curve, or how to loosen or tighten the curve if you have to slow down, avoid an obstacle, or take a curve up or down a steep hill. It has to be clear in your mind, and you have to practice it everytime you ride.
      what actually happens, the motorcycle at speed IS self balancing - you cant make it fall over unless you lock up the wheels
      all you can do is perturb the bike off its stable "go straight and stay vertical" self balance, and make it lean and IT stays balanced on a turn.
      To do that...to go left you PUSH the left grip forward (the opposite of how you would steer a car)
      So how does the front wheel turn to the left when you are PUSHING on the left grip?
      because the spinning front wheel pushes BACK against your hand, leaning the bike to the left trying to keep it straight and vertical, but as long as you are pushing on the left grip it cant lean far enough to cancel out your interference, so it stays in the lean and turn as long as you keep pushing that grip.
      it makes sense when you think about it: Because the motorcycle is self balancing, if you take your hands off the grips it keeps going straight - when you push on one grip, the steering HAS TO push back and try to cancel out the force you are applying. If it didnt, the slightest nudge you put on the grip would cause the handlebars to snap over all the way hard till it hit the steering stops, and you would go flying over the handlebars. And the slightest bump or puff of cross wind would cause the steering to go hard over and make the bike fall.
      You can make a motorcycle inherently unstable that would do that! Just bend the front fork backwards until it is past 90° vertical, and move the front axle so it is leading the centerline of the fork instead of trailing it, and you would have a completely unstable and un-ridable motorcycle.
      BTW, the video link in breezelow's post is to lesson on how to steer a CAR thru a skid - it has nothing to do with motorcycles.

  • @bill5552
    @bill5552 Před 6 lety +47

    Best counter steering video ever. It's a natural thing and if you ride you do it. This video takes the confusion away....it's like "riding a bike".....a natural thing you do nearly unconsciously.
    If you ride 1 mile on a curvy road you have done it.

    • @neilgordon3346
      @neilgordon3346 Před 4 lety +1

      Moark Willy this countered steering was busting my head until I saw this video as u said best one 👍

    • @lotanna77
      @lotanna77 Před 4 lety

      Moark Willy , in just a minute , I understood were this genius is headed !

    • @lotanna77
      @lotanna77 Před 4 lety

      Moark Willy , in just a minute , I understood were this genius is headed !

    • @lotanna77
      @lotanna77 Před 4 lety

      Moark Willy , in just a minute , I understood were this genius is headed !

  • @anonamos225
    @anonamos225 Před 6 lety +66

    Counter steering is a lot like engine breaking. It's super simple and you're already doing it, you probably just didn't have someone call it by that name before.

    • @Srkcycles
      @Srkcycles  Před 6 lety +4

      +Anon Amos exactly

    • @600rrcbr7
      @600rrcbr7 Před 5 lety +1

      Anybody that’s rode dirt bikes growing up has counter steered. Just didn’t know it was called that. It’s like second nature.

    • @seanwatts392
      @seanwatts392 Před 4 lety +2

      @@600rrcbr7 same as bicycles

    • @tristonmurdock4586
      @tristonmurdock4586 Před 3 lety +3

      @breezelow unknown take a turn going 40 on a bike without pushing your handlebars and tell me how that goes for ya bud

    • @bmagada
      @bmagada Před 2 lety +1

      @breezelow unknown counter steering is literally an action that creates lean so the bike turns at higher speeds. its both. As long as you can generate lean and maintain forward motion, the bike will turn.

  • @gtamaster2001
    @gtamaster2001 Před 3 lety +2

    I got my first motorcycle when I was 18 and I wrote it till I was 21 and then I had a car have not had another one cents. I’m 67 and I’ve gotten two motorcycles and started driving them again. I watch the counter steering video and I thought no way. So today I went out and I tried it… It was amazing. If you tug on the left handle bar you’re going to lean right. If you tug on the right handle bar You’re going to lean less! So I’ve been practicing it for several hours trying to commit it to muscle memory. It is so much easier to meet curves if you countersteer. Thank you for the video and I am a much better driver now

  • @MattyH1992
    @MattyH1992 Před 6 lety +33

    I watched so many videos on counter-steering before I bought my first bike. They may have helped a little, just to get the idea in my head, but it just came naturally when I got on the seat for the first time.

    • @RyMann88
      @RyMann88 Před 6 lety +6

      That's what my local MSF teacher said when I asked him about it a few weeks ago. He basically asked me to remember when I was a kid hauling ass on a bicycle and needing to turn. Told him I simply pushed a slightly downward motion on the handles and the bike leaned and turned. He just laughed and said "See? Everyone who's ever needed to turn on two wheels at a higher speed automatically knows how to do it." He also said that the biggest reason why people are confused about counter steering is because most everyone tends to over explain it. "Just get on a bike and do it"

    • @sobc2737
      @sobc2737 Před 5 lety

      How's your riding going so far?

    • @OakInch
      @OakInch Před 3 lety

      @@RyMann88 Answer the man! It has been 2 years!

  • @RellyOhBoy
    @RellyOhBoy Před 4 lety +9

    This is Bicycle riding 101. I just call it "low speed steering" vs "high speed steering." This is one of those rare cases where something is easily DONE than SAID. (for most people that is).

  • @itzwilliam5051
    @itzwilliam5051 Před 6 lety +16

    Easy explanation: With the bike stopped, if you steer the bar to the left - the bike will naturally lean to the right and vice-versa. While you're riding at not so low speeds it's the same.

  • @wolco003
    @wolco003 Před 6 lety +7

    This is the most helpful video on the topic. Relating to a bicycle and using a bike with beach bars and repeating that we already do it rather than it being some new technique and that the importance is KNOWING that we are doing it rather than riding intuitively...more control. I think with smaller bikes it is more like a bicycle and easier to ride intuitively...Moving up to a big cruiser and this is super helpful. *THANK YOU!*

  • @thenobleandmightybeaver4411

    I agree that counter-steering happens intuitively because like you said, it works.
    I did appreciate when I took my safety course that the instructors spent a good deal of time explaining counter steering and then we consciously practised it starting with slaloming between cones at speed and once we got that down, we practised it in emergency obstacle evasion and emergency braking.
    Once you get the feel for it, it all makes sense on a body and muscle memory level, which is what you need to establish so if an emergency happens you just do it without thinking about it.

    • @wanderingwade8877
      @wanderingwade8877 Před 2 lety

      Sounds like a really good course that you took. Now I know what to ask/look for in a course.

  • @POPPASHANGO
    @POPPASHANGO Před 6 lety +3

    I think what helps one understand the difference is an exercise we were doing in my Motorcycle Safety Course. We get up to mid range speed in second gear and perform a long sweeping turn in a cone lane. Exit the lane. Straighten up, downshift and brake...then go into the friction zone and do a slow speed uturn and re-enter the lane and go back the other way. After doing this numerous times you can feel how you are pushing the handle bar at speed and turning the handle bar going super slow.

  • @morecringe89
    @morecringe89 Před 5 lety +4

    I think is a big deal because a lot of people drop their bikes and really thought it was the only option. Thank you for the video

  • @nathanielr9073
    @nathanielr9073 Před měsícem

    About to take my final test and I'm watching this at the site and this helped me so much to understand the concept of countersteer!

  • @tonyj8947
    @tonyj8947 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video. How i remember. With both hands on the grip & going above 15mph. if you push the handlebar grip on the right you go right. If you push the handlebar grip on the left you go left. Push right go right. Push left go left.

  • @cofmetalmaniac54
    @cofmetalmaniac54 Před 4 lety +4

    Best description I've seen to this day, well played sir, ty! New rider and it has helped so much. Mad love, keep them 2wheels clean!

  • @jayjackson597
    @jayjackson597 Před 3 lety +2

    counter steering makes the bike lean into the turn. when you go in too fast and start to panic, you might have the wrong instinct to turn the bars in the direction of the turn. when you do that, it has the opposite effect, it will make it stand up and go off the road. I recently bought a long wheelbase, heavy, sport touring bike. when riding one like this, it is more important to use what I call, "mental counter steering". instead of relying on your instincts like normal, you might say you have to actually tell yourself to use extra push on the bar. when you're riding a sport bike or adventure bike, the center of gravity is higher up in relationship to the axles. my sport touring, and most cruisers, the center of gravity is closer to the axles, and the bike naturally wants to go straight. this is great on the highway, makes it really stable, but works against you on the turns. when I first got my bike and took it to my favorite back road, I almost got in trouble on the first turn that was a little tight, and I went way too wide and got uncomfortably close to the edge of the pavement. from then on I learned to really concentrate on getting that thing leaned over and be less aggressive entering a turn until I felt comfortable with my amount of lean before slowly getting back on the throttle.

  • @dustindefoore972
    @dustindefoore972 Před 5 lety +1

    This is the best explanation of counter steering I’ve found. I am a new rider-actually, going to be a new rider- and I’ve been doing research on all this stuff. I’m 42 and everything I’ve seen thus far has not made a lick of sense with regard to counter steering. Thank you. I’m looking to take a MSF course for my license and I just wanted to have, somewhat of a grasp on this; but, until your video, the concept has been so poorly explained that it totally eluded me.

  • @NaptownPete
    @NaptownPete Před 2 lety +1

    Nice explanation.
    There are riders who say you just lean into the turn. But in actuality they are leaning into the handlebars.
    When Im riding at speed I sence that I'm pusing forward on the inside turn handlebars a direction, a point, that's about 2" to 4" in front of the front wheel axle.
    Practice makes perfect, and practice avoiding little potholes, splotches and rocks in the road.

  • @timothygarcia3192
    @timothygarcia3192 Před 6 lety +40

    Finally someone who doesn't make it sound confusing asf. Thanks man this helped a lot.

  • @CantaloupeDog
    @CantaloupeDog Před rokem

    So I grew up in PA, been in WI the past 2 years. Was looking up motorcycle videos and was like damn this really looks like familiar territory. Because it was. You were driving around out close to Roots. Crazy to see something local on youtube, even crazier to recognize it was.

  • @HardHatDIver412
    @HardHatDIver412 Před 4 lety +3

    Way over analyzing it. Look right push right go right. Look left push left go left. That’s it been riding for a week. It’s stupid simple.

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    @mohammadvazin1949 Před 5 lety +11

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      @charlesbelville5090 Před 5 lety

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      @MrLew1965 Před 3 lety

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  • @ChaosBW
    @ChaosBW Před 6 lety +41

    You call your right hand your left

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos Před 5 lety +6

      Learning counter steering from a dyslexic 🥴

    • @georgenavarrette8996
      @georgenavarrette8996 Před 4 lety +1

      Bro first 3 min were pointless lol

    • @ONNE2ENNV
      @ONNE2ENNV Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah this made the whole concept confusing

    • @joeharris7370
      @joeharris7370 Před 3 lety

      this guy sucks at teaching! he jumps around too much!!!

  • @Clearanceman2
    @Clearanceman2 Před 6 lety +2

    I swear the people that don't get this never tried it. Do it one time while riding and you will see that it does work. And it works very well. I like to lean too but countersteer will make you lean right now.

  • @highlanderlk9867
    @highlanderlk9867 Před 2 lety

    its amazing how i never ever rode a motorcycle, and when i started taking classes last week, i was doing it without even thinking, it's extremely intuitive

  • @haroldobrien4322
    @haroldobrien4322 Před 6 lety +6

    Pointing out counter steering is great because that is how bikes turn at speed. Almost all new riders don't know what that is. But, your explanation is overly complicated. It's really simple, .. you want to go right, press slightly on the right grip. You want to go left, .. press lightly on the left grip. That's it. You can explain how pushing the grip essentially points the front wheel in the opposite direction as to where you are headed, (hence COUNTER steer), but how physics then takes over with drag, gravity and velocity then actually pushers you in the direction you want to go towards. But why? You want to go left push slightly on the left grip. You want to go right, push on the right grip. I will avoid my circumstance, being a one armed rider, whereby I need to push or pull with EVERY change of direction.

    • @martinglasser6025
      @martinglasser6025 Před 5 lety

      That's right

    • @OakInch
      @OakInch Před 3 lety

      I don't think his explanation was over complicated. Every other channel goes all ham on it.

  • @doniotte681
    @doniotte681 Před 6 lety +9

    Hi Guy's Happy New Year, I have a Question on A Video I'd Love to see, I am A Biker I started Riding at age 11 and I am 60 Now and Still Enjoy Riding, I don't have a Bike right now mine died in 96, but my Idea for a Video would be For Riders Safety, other Bikers don't know that you should Ride in Formation Not Side by Side in Case one of us had to Swerve away from oncoming Cars or Trucks etc. Would that Fall in For A Safety Rule for ALL Bikers? That would be Great for Beginners who are Just Starting to Ride, My Daughter Rides up In Maine she takes after Her Dad {Me} and She Also Served 8 Years in The ARMY, I am So Dam Proud of Her, Well Keep in Touch and Again Ride SAFE.

  • @markgman4157
    @markgman4157 Před 6 lety +9

    It's just physics. You probably learned in high school that an object in motion tends to travel in a straight line. Additionally, a motorcycle has two large gyroscopes under it that force it into a stable straight line. It's easy to feel this if your going at least 30 mph or faster. If you gently push the right grip forward (turn left) the motorcycle "wants" to go back to it's center line and will lean right and turn right. If you gently push the left grip forward the motorcycle "wants to lean/turn left toward its original line. You are absolutely correct about not having to think hard about this. If you're turning off your original straight line you are counter steering. The same forces apply in a car. If you make a hard right turn you are pushed toward the left, If you let go of the steering wheel the car will go straight from that point. The physics is the same but a motorcycle turns by leaning and a car doesn't, since it has 4 wheels, although it does lean some. Turning a car hard enough right will cause it to roll over to the left, toward the direction of it's original line. A car overcomes the centrifugal force, at least until it flips over, but a two wheeled motorcycle does not have that luxury. Try turning the motorcycle and keep it perpendicular to the street at the same time. Actually, no, don't try that.

    • @markgman4157
      @markgman4157 Před 6 lety +1

      The reason you don't have to think about it is that the rider is constantly making adjustments to hold the curved line. If you push the grip in the wrong direction you WILL correct to make the bike go where you want or lose control.

    • @markgman4157
      @markgman4157 Před 6 lety +1

      Since a mc tire is round it turns in the direction of lean just like rolling a cone on a surface rolls in a circle. The inner edge of the tire has a lesser diameter than the center of the tire, it also has lesser circumference, therefore it will carry you less distance down the roadway for each rotation of the tire than if you were traveling upright, on the center portion of the tire. This causes the bike to turn into the direction of the lean, even though the front steering wheel is not turned. However, you are correct that the car/mc tire example is not the best since a car tire is flat and a mc tire is round. The forces are a little different.

    • @markgman4157
      @markgman4157 Před 6 lety

      The contact angle is the same regardless of patch size. Racing bikes also have a very aggressive cornering geometry that racers counteract by pulling on the low grip to keep from falling over too far. In an aggressive lean they are counter steering into the curve (as you indicate) to prevent their bike from falling (maintain balance). That doesn't change the fact that a round tire is basically a conical section and when leaned off center will roll in a circle.

    • @kenwittlief255
      @kenwittlief255 Před 2 lety

      the same forces happen in a car, except they are all fighting the turn instead of helping
      when you turn the steering in a car you are rotation the direction of the tire INTO the turn you want
      the resulting gyroscopic precession force of the spinning tire tries to lean the tire to the left in a right turn. All that force is trying to rip the front suspension off the ball joints and tie rods and shock anchor points in the frame.
      that along with the centripetal force of the mass of the car body, is trying to roll the car over (or up on two wheels because it wants to be a motorcycle :) to the left in a right turn.
      THAT is the beauty and elegance of a motorcycle - when you take a curve everything is in balance and working together. The weight load on the tires even stays centered on the wheels and spokes. By contrast when you turn a car it is literally trying to rip itself apart, and trying to pull the tires sideways off the rims.

  • @94SexyStang
    @94SexyStang Před 6 lety +4

    Everyone's debating about counter-steering, and I'm just like "BRRAAAAAPPP!!!"

  • @jsamuel251
    @jsamuel251 Před 2 lety +1

    Bro I love this channel!!

  • @forkstrip1554
    @forkstrip1554 Před 6 lety +2

    This was instantly intuitive. So much so that I've watched a lot of these kind of videos because I was convinced I must be missing something. How can you NOT countersteer?

    • @enematwatson1357
      @enematwatson1357 Před 6 lety +1

      Forks Trip
      You can't but lots of people are only very vaguely aware of it and sometimes even completely mistaken about what they are actually doing to steer the bike.
      It may not be a problem until they find themselves entering a turn "too hot" at which point it is too late to realize that you don't actually know what you are doing.

  • @Balooba11
    @Balooba11 Před 6 lety +1

    Very important stuff. As a new rider it’s easy to ride into curves a bit faster than you might be able to handle since you cannot lay down the bike that far without being active on the counter steer. Learn it, use it and become a better driver. It might be your life hanging on it.

    • @RyMann88
      @RyMann88 Před 6 lety

      This is why I'm excited about a new learners track where I live. The MSF crew here has been talking about renting it (there's a huge space for traditional MSF courses) for the intermediate and advanced classes, so we can actually get up to a higher speed and learn how bikes handle rather than simply learning parking lot maneuvers.

  • @ragimundvonwallat8961
    @ragimundvonwallat8961 Před 4 lety +5

    i didint even knew what countersteering was and the guys were laughing at me lol...they said:you know what you do when you lean in the curve. my only answer was, i dont know it does it all alone lol.

  • @lotanna77
    @lotanna77 Před 4 lety

    Guy , you are seriously gifted , experienced and a good teacher .

  • @jimwortham8634
    @jimwortham8634 Před 4 lety +1

    Great. Been riding many years old gentleman told me about countersteering one quite a few barroom best with if you want to go right which way do you turn your handlebars easy money

  • @movsestimiryan3854
    @movsestimiryan3854 Před 4 lety +3

    Several years ago, I used to ride downhill on my bicycle going maybe... 15-30 mph. I was countersteering without even fully realizing what I was doing.

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před 4 lety +1

      Movses Timiryan You have always done that or you would not be here... there.

  • @mjstow
    @mjstow Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent video. I've heard some strange things said about counter-steering, like: "oh you only have to do it on motorcycles, not bicycles" ! And I'm like, WTF?

  • @isidroalcantar5870
    @isidroalcantar5870 Před 4 lety

    Thank you bro. Ur the only one who's been able to explain it in a way that is understandable to a complete beginner👍

    • @seanwatts392
      @seanwatts392 Před 4 lety

      If you have ever rode a bicycle it's the same thing. If your going super fast on a bicycle and want to turn left around a curve what would you do. It's the same on a motorcycle. Everyone who has ridden a bicycle in there life has counter steered there whole life without knowing it.

  • @ShahryarSaigol
    @ShahryarSaigol Před 3 lety

    This is the reason we took some time learning to ride a bicycle. The brain learned to countersteer. The child's first instinct is to steer away from the lean or turn the handlebar in the direction they wanted to go. It's the reason I smashed into my mom's flowerpots a couple of times. When a child finally learns to ride a bicycle, she has essentially learned and imprinted countersteering.

  • @kjensen7
    @kjensen7 Před 2 lety

    Getting ready to get my learners. This helps.

  • @turg993
    @turg993 Před 6 lety +1

    Best video I've seen on this so far

  • @HelixTribuner
    @HelixTribuner Před 3 lety

    You just saved me bro. At the yellow turn sign with small curve but not a big curve enough to use counter steering, u push and pull to turn. I had hard time figuring that out.

  • @FatMattOutdoors
    @FatMattOutdoors Před 11 měsíci

    have been riding for years, had a moment of complete space out and at 60 miles per hour I began moving to the left when I wanted to be moving to the right. It felt completely weird and was confusing for a moment. I have no idea how this reverted in my head, but it did. I had to regroup and get back on track. Never thought about it until this happened yesterday, so for the first time I looked it up.... cause I was like how did I get confused.

  • @clearedmass066
    @clearedmass066 Před 9 měsíci

    So, when you're at a higher speed you have a gyro effect where the bike wants to stay upright and keep moving forward. you can turn the handlebars and think they're not turning but they will be turning you just do not notice because the bike will seem like the handlebars did not move. You have to remember you are inside a gyro effect. It will make sense once you experience it.

  • @dillonhayes3402
    @dillonhayes3402 Před 3 lety +1

    Anyone who's ever successfully ridden a bike has counter steered without knowing it this while making sense to me made me over think it when I did my riding course a few years ago

    • @kenwittlief255
      @kenwittlief255 Před 2 lety

      everyone who thought they knew how to ride a motorcycle because they could ride a bicycle when they were a kid
      dies at the first sweeping 70mph curve they come to
      because they try to steer like a car, or they try to turn by shifting their body weight on the seat
      and the bike goes the opposite direction of where the road is
      they are not here to watch this video.... they are dead

  • @WestVirginiaWildlife
    @WestVirginiaWildlife Před rokem +1

    push right go right, push left go left

  • @bryseratops4533
    @bryseratops4533 Před rokem

    What bike are you riding here love that speedometer

  • @russchamberlain8755
    @russchamberlain8755 Před 5 lety

    So what you are saying is; By using your tire shape, curved on each side this curve will cause the tire to grip to one side; be it left or right and by forcing the grip down on the side of that turn it will make the bike ride the (cup) curved section of the tire. The side of the tire being shorter than the center of the tire so the tire shape is part of the steering.

  • @RyMann88
    @RyMann88 Před 6 lety +2

    I was told by a few riders I work with to "never pull the bars when turning, even at low speeds." Their reasoning was that newer riders (which I will be, plan on buying a bike very, very soon) tend to pull too hard and end up lowsiding.
    What's your thoughts? I like to gather as many opinions as I can before I get out and really start riding myself.

    • @MattyH1992
      @MattyH1992 Před 6 lety +1

      Do whatever comes naturally. Depends on your physical size and your arm length and the bike and all sorts of variables. On my rocket I tended to push... on my two "standard" bikes I tended to pull.

    • @saidabimelec8506
      @saidabimelec8506 Před 6 lety

      i just use my weight to push where i want to go smoothly.

    • @joepasco1420
      @joepasco1420 Před 5 lety

      Just ride without thinking about pushing or pulling in turns. Turning happens naturally.

    • @countryjoe3551
      @countryjoe3551 Před 4 lety +2

      You probably ought to ignore the guys that you work with and get some real rider training. Take a MSF basic rider course or even better yet is the basic Total Control rider training course if one is scheduled close enough to get to conveniently.

  • @lanesaarloos281
    @lanesaarloos281 Před rokem

    We learned that on bicycles and Honda Cubs.

  • @OakInch
    @OakInch Před 3 lety

    This cleared up a lot for me.

  • @jamesbellar
    @jamesbellar Před 2 lety

    Clear as mud. I know I do it but I never think about it and I’m nervous to try it intentionally for fear of highsiding

  • @eepihonkanen2703
    @eepihonkanen2703 Před 2 lety

    Got it! Thanks! I've been doing it with my scooter. Didn't just know i was doing it. 😅🤣

  • @fabiocaetanofigueiredo1353

    Excellent video, thanks. But please allow me to say, the correct term is counter intuitive in this case.

  • @noelleonard2498
    @noelleonard2498 Před 6 lety

    I always thought about it as you countersteer to make the bike fall to initiate the turn and fight the gyro effect, never really though about it you just do it.

  • @ronburhans5788
    @ronburhans5788 Před 3 lety +1

    A little confusing; could've just said, "Push left, turn left; Push right, turn right" & been done with it.... ha.

  • @shutupidiot16yearsago79
    @shutupidiot16yearsago79 Před 5 lety +4

    I'm practicing countersteering in gta

  • @shoomapador5043
    @shoomapador5043 Před 5 lety

    You lean and as you lean in a certain direction left pressure forward (COUNTER) on left hand . . . right pressure forward (COUNTER) on right hand. counter steering is only effective at speeds requiring lean.

    • @kenwittlief255
      @kenwittlief255 Před 2 lety

      there is no reason to lean off your bike in a curve, unless you are going too fast and there is the risk your frame will hit the pavement causing the bike to slide out from under you.
      In most places if you are taking a corner that fast you cannot SEE THRU the curve and you will not be able to stop or swerve if some thing or someone is in your lane.
      Also if you have spoked wheels, leaning your body weight off the CG of the motorcycle causes a side load on the wheels, because they are not in line with the center of mass of you + the bike. That can cause spoke failure in the long run.
      Ride Responsibly.

  • @ung427
    @ung427 Před 3 lety

    I actually for a long time have known that I do this on my bicycle. I have a cruiser with ape hangers, and I always see super bike races where these guys are cornering and dragging their knee and it looks like they are constantly turning in the opposite direction... then when I'm turning at a high rate of speed I see myself slightly doing this too.. Now I know why.

  • @wlcsp
    @wlcsp Před 3 lety

    People simply over theorizing this thing. To turn right, you turn the bar to right. But the centrifuge will forces you to the left. Therefore, you lean your body to the right. The faster your speed, the less you turn and the more you lean.

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 3 lety +1

      What a load of bollocks!!!!! Over theorising!!! Your explanation is ridiculous!!😂😂😂
      Figured this out yet or living in a ditch somewhere?😂

  • @djboond0ckz103
    @djboond0ckz103 Před 2 lety

    This helped me out allot

  • @a.d.c7941
    @a.d.c7941 Před 5 lety

    I get what you are saying!! Finally!! I was reading too much into it. And earlier I was thinking “I rode the hell out of bicycles when I was a kid so I had to have done this!!?” 😂. Now after listening to you, I finally just get it. Thank u so much man.

  • @mhs2501
    @mhs2501 Před 2 lety

    BTW what bike are you riding? Is it intruder 1800r?

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 Před 6 lety +1

    Gyroscopic precession. Pilot knowledge. And apparently now motorcyclists.

  • @rockinginafreeworld3256

    What bike is it? It looks a nice bike.

  • @tesakun3133
    @tesakun3133 Před 2 lety

    I understand thank you

  • @letterpool
    @letterpool Před 6 lety +1

    Mind blown.

  • @coolgeek08
    @coolgeek08 Před 6 lety

    What kind of gloves are those? Are they comfortable?

  • @TravisB2323
    @TravisB2323 Před 2 lety

    Funny thing is i just got a dirt bike and couldnt figure out why it my turning was so slow this makes sense

  • @Oliver_1800
    @Oliver_1800 Před 10 měsíci

    Which motorcycle is this?

  • @theloverofmisunderstooddogs

    I actually thought that this was counter steering but I think that this is just push steering. I saw a physics video on here showing counter steering and it's pointing the wheel in the opposite direction of the turn while leaning and then readjusting the wheel to go with the turn at the same time as the lean

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 2 lety +2

      Counter steering = push steering. Same thing. The cartoon video you refer to is probably the worst video on CZcams for explaining this topic! The rider never steers into a bend when counter steering. He/she maintains a forward pressure on the inside grip for the duration of the bend.

  • @myhometechguy
    @myhometechguy Před 4 lety

    To counter steer, you can push right to lean and turn right or pull left to lean and turn right. Both are counter steering. I prefer to pull except when braking. With that said I am concerned how this is taught to new riders. I tell them that how to turn a motorcycle you lean it. Your brain naturally learns very quickly that counter steer leans the bike so there is no need to complicate it. It’s safer for the rider to think of leaning as the mans of turning and not steering as you lean in the direction you want to turn. If you want to turn sharper lean more. I believe it’s dangerous especially for new riders to focus on steering in the opposite direction they intend to turn. This is especially true in an emergency situation where it is likely the rider in a panic may steer in the intended direction of travel. The way I explain it is this. How do you turn a motorcycle? You lean it. How do you lean a motorcycle? You counter steer. Understand counter steering and then put it out of mind and focus on leaning as the means to turning a motorcycle.

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 4 lety

      Chris Taylor
      Push left, go left.... Push right, go right. If you're telling them to lean without discussing counter steering....... Well that's just dumb! No counter steering, no lean!

  • @weschambers7612
    @weschambers7612 Před 6 lety

    Shawn, You are such a nerd lol I love it!!

  • @Sway1177
    @Sway1177 Před 3 lety

    My brain hurts now ahahahaha

  • @josephmcnulty6703
    @josephmcnulty6703 Před 3 lety

    Great video thanks

  • @5455945459
    @5455945459 Před 2 lety

    Cool video

  • @evanhaas6615
    @evanhaas6615 Před 4 lety +1

    I always got confused and thrown off with this, helped me understand it, it’s not something you think about, just happens I guess.

  • @krandom354
    @krandom354 Před 3 lety

    My brain hurts.

  • @fro-yo-momma7082
    @fro-yo-momma7082 Před 3 lety

    How fast I gotta got to practice this

  • @randylee9448
    @randylee9448 Před 2 lety

    Looks like to me your pulling right to turn right and vise versa

  • @cameronwilson4782
    @cameronwilson4782 Před 4 lety

    Wait so do you keep countersteering through the curve / corner or do you only initiate the lean with countersteering

  • @spacebear49
    @spacebear49 Před 3 lety

    So really, you just counter steer a MINUTE amount to initiate the lean in the desired direction, then follow it by THEN turning the bars in THAT direction. But it's all very minimal, especially at speed?

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před 3 lety +4

      No you don't " then follow it by THEN turning the bars in THAT direction". Bike does that for you.
      If you turn handle bars into a turn, the bike will sturn another direction.

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 2 lety

      Space Bear:
      So so so so wrong! You clown!

    • @spacebear49
      @spacebear49 Před 2 lety

      @@softailfun thanks for the redundant reply 10 months after the fact. Calling someone that (at the time) had never ridden a motorcycle a clown is helpful too. Hope you feel superior. 👍

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 2 lety +1

      @@spacebear49
      Shouldn’t have really been giving advise then should you. Kinda serious shit steering a bike you know. Maybe take the comment down, you’ll look less of a clown. Just saying!

    • @spacebear49
      @spacebear49 Před 2 lety +1

      @@softailfun you might notice that my comment ended with a "?"... this makes it a question. Which 2 other people answered months ago. If you don't understand that, then maybe don't throw the word clown around so freely. Unless you want to discuss the definition of "irony"... have a good day.

  • @BasicBeachCommunity1
    @BasicBeachCommunity1 Před 4 lety

    It's easy, but the name is overkill.

  • @bryancardenas-qs4ig
    @bryancardenas-qs4ig Před rokem

    What speeds does counter steering begin

  • @fucaborigin
    @fucaborigin Před 4 lety

    What use camera ?

  • @paperchaser159
    @paperchaser159 Před rokem

    Man I’d steer clear of these long videos over complicating something so simple.

  • @IslandRider07
    @IslandRider07 Před 2 lety

    ive always just done it, so someone explaining it is kinda strange

  • @ryadb3035
    @ryadb3035 Před 5 lety

    what bike is that

  • @ReadyAsHeWillEverBe
    @ReadyAsHeWillEverBe Před 6 lety

    Riding style is the big issue with counter steering. On a sport bike counter steering happens more naturally because the rider is leaning forward with a fair amount of weight pushing on the grips. On a cruiser the rider is in many cases leaning back and pulling on the grips requiring the rider to shift their weight a little to be able to push on the grip for the desired reaction. So yea, pro's and cons of riding styles

  • @hoompaloompaa
    @hoompaloompaa Před 3 lety

    No dashboard?

  • @lostinspace013
    @lostinspace013 Před rokem

    I still don't get it.

  • @gregoriojuarez1579
    @gregoriojuarez1579 Před 6 lety

    Happy New Year's! A video on how to candle the twisties would be highly appreciated ☺

  • @ernestorobledo263
    @ernestorobledo263 Před 5 lety

    To countersteer don't you push forward instead of pressing down?

  • @barrykelly2722
    @barrykelly2722 Před 4 lety

    I'm never gonna figure this out coach.

  • @salvo9718
    @salvo9718 Před 2 lety

    You ah, you are steering by pushing the steering handlebar left or right from the center point of the handlebar. So for me and for any newbies, should be enough. What you people's are doing is by making it more difficult. Plain and simple is steering the handlebar left or right and entering the corner, simple by leaning you body in the direction your entering.

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 2 lety +2

      Erm….. no
      You lean with the bike, the bike doesn’t lean because you’ve moved. Push left grip forward, turn left. Push right grip forward, turn right.

  • @shadowshatto
    @shadowshatto Před 4 lety

    The EASIEST way to explain this to people is to start by telling them you're pushing the bike in the direction with the bars but not actually turning the handlebars.
    I've been told that you literally turn the opposite direction to go where you want, which in my head means I TURN the handlebars the other direction and wrecking the bike end over end.

  • @bryankc9644
    @bryankc9644 Před 5 lety +2

    *lips smacking profusely*

  • @jarrodcapone8617
    @jarrodcapone8617 Před 2 měsíci

    Book smart vs street smart

  • @BruceJC75
    @BruceJC75 Před 4 lety

    So it’s kind of a push and lean.

    • @softailfun
      @softailfun Před 4 lety +1

      Bruce Courtney
      Push to make the bike lean and lean with the bike. The bike will not lean because you are leaning.

  • @AshutoshSingh-wg5km
    @AshutoshSingh-wg5km Před 6 lety

    Now i understand.