Can Djinnbass 2 Replace My REAL Bass?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
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I’m comparing my real Dingwall NG3 Bass to the brand new Djinnbass 2 MIDI Bass plugin, to see if I can ACTUALLY replace my real bass with a bass that's on my computer.
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I'll still keep my bass, it's too fun to play!
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woahhh you punked me and I played the actual DjinnBass 2 samples 😅
Honestly the biggest tonal difference was the initial pick attack. The round-robins on DjinnBass II sounded really natural while your heavy-handed picking made the initial note pop out a bit more.
Going off what I can see, that's because Keyan was picking closer to the neck, while during the sampling of DjinnBass 2 I picked very close to the bridge in order to encapsulate more of that sound made famous by a certain refined English gentleman.
You've taught me so much about guitar and writing - buying this right now. Thank you.
Sounds crazy close to the real deal! Will you be using djinn bass 2 over Umansky bass on upcoming releases?
I do like the almost piano-like sound from the Umansky, but anytime that using my real Dingwall doesn’t make sense, I will be using Djinnbass from now on
You're the best. Even fooled us ❤
I love seeing how you process your bass, I'd love to see your approach for how you dial in your drums!
It is similar but Djinnbass sounds thinner in mix and solo. Seems like real bass gives more low and low mids. Probably it can be fixed with an eq.
It kinda feels crazy how close it sounds to real bass. Anyway it is not as close as we think by CZcamsr's opinions, but the truth is a whole bunch of guitar players just don't really hear the difference and further, they don't need bass gear in the house anymore. All of this makes me wonder - when the guitarists will be replaced? :D
I'm more in favor of Eurobass III but I'm glad that DjinnBass has also been renewed. Question: can you tell me where the "custom" IR used in the video is from?
Awesome as always! Do you have any FL Studio templates available?
I actually wanted you to swap around what was the real bass vs the midi and I was right lmao.
bro is on it
Most of the other examples I've heard on other pages have sounded super robotic, but yours sounds the most human. I'm now finally considering buying it. Can't decide btwn this, Umansky, and Eurobass III tone wise though.
Like any MIDI instrument, you get out of it what you put in. DjinnBass 2 can sound unbelievably realistic if you put the time into programming realistic performances - as Keyan showed us here.
That's why I bought it, my guy!@@SubMissionAudioOfficial
For all these midi bass programm..its maybe time to do a video on how exactly you go about programming midi and processing midi bass? Because its a nightmare to sit down and paint notes for 2-3hrs on a midi map and adjusting articulations etc vs using playing a real bass for half that time .. well there definitely needs to be an easier way of programming midi?
I believe Keyan did exactly this for his URM course on programming bass.
hit us with the old switcheroo!
I thought that your playing was incredibly even 😂
Can we get a djinnbass vs nolly bass keyan? Been in the market for a new bass vst and I CANNOT decide
I have Djinnbass, and if i hadn't already bought the Nolly Bass, i would think about picking this one up.
Can djinnbass 2 do slides? Like the ones before a chorus or a breakdown.
Hello Keyan, what do you think about the Nolly Bass Library? Is it better ? What would you use for a final production between both ? I’m producing the album of my band and I’m wondering between playing the Bass or use MIDI bass. Thanks keep rockin man 🤘🏻
Midi bass totally speeds up the writing process by having it almost perfectly mixed out of the box. Submission audio makes great midi bass libraries, imo they make the best.
@@ColorSkyMusic That's exactly right. We aim to shortcut the process for users by not having to deal with the huge cost of replacing strings every 4 hours, intonating, tuning, punching in etc. I spent 20 years recording musicians, so I'd like to think I have a reasonably good idea of where the pain points are!
@@SystematicProductions you guys surely are the best 🤘
Truly, thank you for all of the hard work and effort you have put into these plugins to help us lowly musicians 🤘
Woo... That thing sounds awesome, if you are into the dingwall+darkglass sound. How does djinnbass sound when tuned down to F#?
sounds great! now, what drums plugin did u use, please?
Is there a way to audio>midi programme bass parts?
At this point I'm very interested but I need to understand certain things.
I tried ezbass and it didn't drive me crazy but it had a very convenient feature: you could import an audio file recorded with the guitar and create a midi file and then have it "play" on the ezbass bass.
Is it possible to do the same thing with the djin or do we have to write the whole bass part?
Is it so complicated to write midi parts?
The inputs of these bass libraries are all midi so if you already have a midi roll with notes, it can then be articulated and played using these libraries. It's quite easy to programme bass but Submission audio products have extra versatility in them that you can get to the real thing!
Hey Keyan who did you go to see in Adelaide to get your dingy pickups swapped round?
I see Jordan at The Sound Garage!
I don´t hear much tonal difference but I hear that Djinnbass 2 sounds more compressed to me, what I don´t like so much. But overall quite good sound anyway.
Rare occasion Keyan actually played bass
Djinnbass 2 vs Nolly Bass?
Hey dude. Where did you roughly set velocities at to replicate hard but realistic picking? Around 100?
Genuinely preferred the first tone anyway, ha!
Genuinely thought the virtual track sounded fuller than the real bass
Ive been working with similar plugin/vst but the notes dont ring out and sounds roboti. It sounds good only when i extend the note, any advice?
Thoughts on Nolly Bass library?
I have a question that I hope isn't stupid.
But if a person can play a certain type of bass why would they program the same type of bass?
Isn't it a waste of time?
I think it's faster to record a bass line than to program it.
If you can't or don't want to play a bass of that level then it's a completely different story.
But at that point it's just a question of cost.
Guitartists (like me) usually own several guitars. But not all guitarists own basses or can play one. Also, having a decent bass (like a Dingwall, Spector or Ibanez) can be more expensive than having one or several decent guitars. Upgrading a cheap guitar to be a decent one usually is easier (regarding electronics, strings, nut, etc.) and also not as expensive, that's what I like to do.
I had a bass as well, but sold it because it didn't sound like the typical modern Metal basses and I couldn't get any decent tone out of it. I've been using bass libraries since then and yes, it is quite tedious to program. So much so that I really prefer to have a bass in the future again. :D
Those are just my two cents, but maybe you can understand now why people would go for a bass library instead of a real bass.
Hey dude! Your question isn’t stupid at all.
If you are able to record your own bass parts with your own bass, that is awesome and something that should be put into practice whenever you can! However, when you’re doing that, you’ll also need to spend money to restring your bass when tracking, make sure the setup is perfect, make sure the intonation is perfect and constantly tune the bass between takes to make sure that it doesn’t go out of tune. This only gets harder the lower you tune.
With bass VSTs like Djinnbass 2, all of those variables are consistent and don’t apply, which is priceless in a studio environment.
Bass VSTs aren’t really meant to be used as a replacement, but more as a tool to allow your creativity to be represented in a way that is doing justice to the music!
For modern recordings the bass needs to be perfectly in tune, perectly intonated and perfectly in time. It’s nice to have the ability to do that with a plug-in instead of recording multiple takes until you get it right.
There is no single answer to this question. I’ll try to answer it to give you a perspective:
- You are traveling only with your lap top.
- Strings are old (setting it up after replacing strings can take time, and you got good pitch and tension of strings in the recorded library)
- You are in a writing session - workflow; focused; and depending on the part its always easier to program instead of playing it.
- if you want your playing and your artistic expression its always worth the time, ofc
- Tracking an instrument no matter how good a player you are it takes time in preparation for a studio session
Neither is better or worse than the other, it depends on the situation and your specific workflow. Whichever gets you the best results. But keep in mind, anytime you pick up an instrument you are wired to think in a specific way, so using the Library and midi programing can help you get out of the usual patterns you default to when the instrument is in your hands.
Thanks for the answers dude!
These bass libraries are great, but I still think using a real bass and just playing it is much quicker and sounds just as good without all the extra monotonous midi mapping. For me at least. If you're a midi person Djinn Bass might be better.
thinking between this or nolly? worth th extra 30?
How to changing articulation btw?
have you seen Jason Richardson slappin' da bass like Paul Rudd?
Absolutely.
Damet garm, Kian jan, aali bood
Okay now do it without bunch of distortion
I can assure you that without the distortion, it sounds just as similar as that is what the source tone is before they both go into the exact same chain
Where can we get the ir for this?
secret :)
@@KeyanHoushmandLive lol
Is this free if you are already a user of the original Djinnbass?
It’s not a completely free upgrade. However, if you already own Djinnbass 1, there is a substantial discount when upgrading to Djinnbass 2.
This is essentially a whole new library recorded entirely from scratch. The upgrade price is $69, which is down from the current introductory price of $109.
And here I was hoping for a Chinese knockoff bass 😂
Dingwall is actually made in china
Me too, but it’s already been proven you don’t ACTUALLY need the insane gear, it’s mostly about playability. I personally get tones like this on my $300 Sterling bass (I use Parallax with some preamp magic and eq too)
Ahhh another things to make me broke for the next month
But worth it.
I just bought Djinn bass 1 this year :
That's how they get you
@@DavidAllenMD i upgraded to Djinn bass 2 today LMAO. Only 69$ tho😎😎😎
@@PSZEMKI if I knew how to program bass I'd get it I just started this channel I have 2 of my singles I produced and got more on the way!! I love this shit
@@PSZEMKI It's totally fine. What ended up happening is that you got Djinn1 for an additional $4, when the cost differences are tallied up. You now have 2 legit basses instead of one :)
For the record, we're going to continue selling Djinn 1 concurrently with Djinn 2, because it really is a different product.
This sucks if u cant program bass lmao i just use a real bass its more " real " to me
Real bass is obsolete untill you need someone who plays it live with you.
and I do! Kynan plays live with me and he is an amazing bass player
First one sounds punchier
I agree!
This thing is NASTY
But can it replace bad performance delivered by bad bassist? 🤣
Yes - by replacing the bassist completely!
It just came to me that you look like that one italian gay comedian😂
LoL, sounds like bass without bass.
Just djent stick.