The Shame Of Discover Thomas & Friends: A History In Shambles
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2021
- A small showcase/ explanation of the poor treatment the classic Thomas & Friends props have received at the Discover Thomas & Friends Exhibition at Drayton Manor amusement park.
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I give you the island of sodor after season 21
LMAOOOO this is the new pinned comment idc
*After Edward Left Us Things Have Never Been The Same...*
He was found recently while being sold at an auction
Toby wasn’t stolen, he was rescued
10/10 true
Omg yes
Well... only the rober can enjoy him so its bitter sweet
@@nitrobilder12 ye
@@nitrobilder12 the robber will save him
The most horrific part of this exhibition is the fact that they have Daisy pulling a milk truck. Don't they know that's bad for her swerves?
they erased her mind
She is, after all, highly strung. 😂
@i like memes still don't get how can these models be so damaged if they're supposed to be static
@i like memes It really is.
That's not daisy, that's actually BoCo, they just slapped some makeup on him and passed him off as daisy. The real Daisy is in hawaii with junior riding the waves
The problem is that Drayton Manor is a theme park; their priority is entertainment, ride safety and revenue. There's maybe only one or two members of staff who care for the models and know what they are. Sadly, they can't just change how the models are treated by the park as a whole because they're not managers or anything like that.
I've spoken to one of the staff who does care in person when I visited a few months ago, and he genuinely cares for the models and is so happy to hold them, but he gets a lot of bullying online from fans who don't understand there is little he can do without jeopardising his job.
Have I seen you somewhere before?
My railroad club has the same issue, we have several older unique locomotives running which are in need of repair, however money for repairs and even sourcing parts can be quite a task.
I'm surprised that these models are on display and running, even in a tired state. While its great to highlight these issues, but without knowing the real reasons of the park, criticism should be restricted to the park not the people who keep them running as my guess is many of the staff are not experienced in the repairs required to be undertaken to bring them back to near original state and those who are trying to keep are often doing so with the little funds available to them.
The staff who care should show the management these videos and show them that Drayton Manor will have a reputation as the place that destroyed original Thomas props if they're not careful which may convince them to at least consider changing their current practices. I know that I'd contribute to a crowdfunding campaign aiming to buy the resources necessary to restore the broken props.
at least he is trying
At Least SOMEONE Cares For The Models There. Honestly, My Favorite Model Is Hank. Hope He Is Doing Good. From A Video I Saw, His Model Looks EVER SO SLIGHTLY Clean
Sad that japan treats the models better than thomas' home country
Is James there?
@@stormy_person_4204 according the ttte wiki "One of James' models is on display at the Hara Model Railway Museum and is currently wearing his alternate happy face. It had previously been on display at Nitrogen Studios without a face. Another is now owned by ThomasTankMerch with two of his faces (smiling and clenched). Another one was on display with the other Steam Team, the Fat Controller, his crew, his car and Tidmouth Sheds on display at Drayton Manor and wore his happy face. Another was on display at the British Museum wearing his grinning face during the 70th anniversary along with his scale model used for the Wharf. His Wharf scale model was wearing his smiling face."
@@stormy_person_4204 I think so
I know im there wearing my happy face
@@rwssirhandel2450 whatever steamroller
Toby wasn't stolen, he made an escape attempt that sorta worked out. They say he was working with Harvey, thinking they would both escape. Terence, being the kind soul, offered to help. But things didn't work out.
It was supposed to be an easy job. Toby and Harvey knew there was a small hole in the back of the tunnel that could be reached via a hidden set of points. They waited until nightfall, when the guards went home and the other models were turned off at night. Terence snuck through the tunnel hole to turn the layout back on. He succeeded without issue and came back to switch the points. Toby and Harvey left their sheds along with the breakdown train to lift themselves onto the getaway vehicles arranged by an unknown recruit. It was all going well, the tunnel came in sight, but another item came in sight.
Rosie. Someone had tipped her off about the escape, most likely the unknown individual. She refused the escapees entry to the tunnel and sat on the hidden points. Harvey who was in front, charged at her, damaging her front. But she fought back. She hit him so hard he derailed and his face came off. Toby was horrified, seeing his friend be hurt like that. He felt someone couple up behind him, but he didn't care. He surged backwards, then forwards after a few seconds, ripping the coupling off of the engine behind. He used every ounce of weight and steam to barge into Rosie, but it was no good. His wheels were slipping. Rosie was too strong.
One moment Rosie was pushing hard against Toby's weak buffers, the next she was on her side. Terence had rammed her with his plow and chipped it. He told Toby to run. To run and don't look back. Toby thanked Terence and promised he would never forget him. Terence lifted Toby with the force of his plow onto the lorry.
The truck trundled out of view with Toby on the back. Terence decided to break the points lever. He never wanted to go through that again.
It is rumoured Toby went looking for the Hara Model Railway Museum in Japan. But nobody knows if he made it or not...
tobly made it on the hara model railway
Before leaving for Japan Toby decided to hunt down some of his old chums from the 80s and 90s. He visited James in his Stately home and then Percy and Boco in a dusty barn in Yorkshire. His final amigo that he met before leaving was Bertie who he found collecting dust in a charity shop in London. He also bumped into Peter Sam who he found inside a carboard box in a warehouse on the outskirts of Bristol After this he boarded a ferry and set sail for America. When he arrived he briefly reunited with Duncan and Harold in the back of a museum before beginning his long trek across the United States. He was last seen at a KFC in a small town in Colorado by a small child who thought he was an electric toaster.
Looks like Stepney was the one holding him back
@@susman6364 That’s a different one.
@@ewanfawkes2708 That's because Toby *IS* an electric toaster. (also are there gas toasters I thought all toasters where electric)
As someone who lives about an hour away from Drayton Manor, I went there almost yearly as a child, gazing at the engines that were on my television, wondering where the rest of the engines were. Nowadays, I would prefer not to visit the exhibit, but if i did go, it would be a solemn and silent trip to assess damages and remember the previous models.
So.... u like ninjago
Thomas & Friends: Welcome To The Model Graveyard
@@seganintendofan1 Toby oh Toby you got stolen by a criminal oh Toby oh Toby...
My poor boy stepney =(
So sad why did you do that to thomas
P
@@tomica5studios970 +00+0+
It’s kinda sad knowing we will probably never see Toby or Stepney again.
I hope we find out where they went.
The latter gone for even longer. The last time we saw Stepney was in a disgusting S12 episode. The only plus was giving an outside character a lead appearance rather than just a Steam Team member.
somebody probably stole the models to save them
I always liked toby
Hell I still have an old toby
@@jamandsteamtram5514 yeah, i could expect it to be a thomas fan
There’s always the chance that Toby was saved by a fan and is being looked after.
You never know
We can hope, and even if this is the case this fan would never make themselves public because they'd get in trouble for theft. However i will make an exception for theft if it is for the greater good of saving one of the Thomas models from despair, and neglect. All these characters must be preserved, maintained, and most of all loved. They brought us so much happiness, love, and warmth over the years, the least we can do is the same in return.
Imagine what Mitton would think if he saw this sad model graveyard :(
I honestly think they should of if he didn’t die give it to him and he could of kept them
@@BluenProductions yep.
He would tell the managers you have been causing confusion and delay
Imagine if Awdry saw what happend to his storys
The person that stole Toby probably wanted to save him.
What if he was David Mitton’s son?
Well if that's the case then the man that stole him deserves a medal
It could be anybody. Even me.
Ok, Its not me, but if I had him I would give him to thomastankmerch.
@@andrewf1873 or just keep it
@@susman6364 I would probably keep it. But judging by how beat up the model would be, I would give it to thomas tank merch.
I think japan has some of the original models from the show and they look great, with no damage to the models and with the original faces for the models, they look way better than the ones from drayton manor
Yeah I was thinking that too. I don't know which characters or how many exactly, but some are saved at the Hara Model Railway Museum(I'm pretty sure that's what it's called). From what I know, they treat the models way better.
@@DmanOfficial15 They basically have Thomas thru Oliver, Bill and Ben, Mavis, the large scale Skarloey Railway engines, and a few others...
That’s because Japan knows what they are fucking doing
Lol its worse than drayton one of the engines in japan has its motor exposed
@@damianhendriks6162 Well that stinks, but is it just one engine or are there other faults?
What Drayton manor have done to the props is unacceptable, but what Sam Wilkinson did by donating more props to their layout pissed me off even more
Only he, can not prevent... MODEL DIAREAHA!
Drayton Manor handles these models the same way Mattel handles the show.
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To True
Couldn't have put it better myself!
Edward (Removed in early 2020 to be restored by Sean o Connor, confirmed to be later put on display at the Clearwater exhibition)
Toby (Stolen in 2011)
Stepney (Put in storage due to broken motor in December 2018)
Harvey (Returned to HiT Entertainment in 2011)
Molly (Previously at Nitrogen Studios)
Trevor (removed in July 2018)
Bulgy (removed in July 2020 and sent to the Hara Model Railway Museum)
The Post Van (Put in storage in early 2020)
Taxi 2 (Put in storage in early 2020)
Three red and cream express coaches (Put in storage in early 2020)
Three green and cream express coaches (Brake coach added in early 2020 with the two composite coaches)
Three milk tankers (Two of the tankers put in storage in early 2020)
Eight tar tankers (Five of the tankers put in storage in early 2020)
One Breakdown Train (Put in storage in early 2020)
Two Breakdown Train conflats, including one with the Great Waterton water wheel (One of the conflats put in storage in early 2020)
One BR 20 Ton Brake Van (Removed sometime in 2011 or 2012)
Four mail coaches (Two of the coaches put in storage in early 2020)
One raspberry syrup tanker (Removed in early 2020)
One cream tanker (Removed in 2013 or 2014)
Three ice cream vans (Removed in early 2020)
Funfair trucks (In storage)
Two balloon trucks (in storage)
Dryaw Station (Put in storage in early 2020)
Dryaw Footbridge (Put in storage in early 2020)
Stanley's Shed (Put in storage in early 2020)
Just here waiting for a billionaire Thomas fan to buy Thomas's copyright
Same
When he does this my dream, Take this models away from Drayton Manor then buy a railway make all the characters from the railway series into real life with all of them based on their real life model like Thomas being based on the E2 and as for the face wire the face like a animatronic with the faces moving fluently and hire people for the voices. Make the railway a vacation site for everyone to come and enjoy beaches, historic sites, Forest and With it bringing the Island of Sodor to life have kids interact with the engines and take pictures. Build a Museum of the history of Thomas and his Friends. Have the original models placed in case for all to look at and take pictures because of them being really old. Have a section of the museum be model railway layout of sodor with Coolprops making the models and the landscape just like at Drayton Manor only we take care of them when needing repair. As for the Tv Series hire the writers of the Trainz Thomas stories for the series. Have one of them be the narrator. Have Coolprops and the Thomas community make the models. Take the best aspects of each era of T&F and make it work. As for Awdry give Respect to the family with Loyalties for what his done for giving us this great franchise that’s been corrupted due to the corporations and overuse of Thomas everywhere
Funny thing. When I saw that Thomas’s paintwork, I immediately thought of this video I saw, where a British guy said something like “Everything on the railway just accumulates this layer of grime. That engine’s been on a siding for decades. If it was running yesterday, it’d be just as dirty”
I guess the grime comes after model railways as-well
Are HiT Entertainment and Drayton Manor really blind towards negative criticism concerning their handling of the models?
I don't know how to respond about HiT. I think that they weren't aware about what was to become of the models after they sold them, and that they can't do much since they're under the ownership of DM.
Drayton Manor would never suit his grace...
"Duke said as he glared grimly at the atrocities of Drayton Manor..."
Now I see why His Grace died
To be honest, I wouldn't have had a problem if Drayton Manor came out and just said something like they're not sure how to fix the models, or lack the funds or staff to do so, because that could all be fixed rather easily. If its a lack of funds, I know I'd donate towards seeing the engines fixed, and brought back to some sort of presentable state. If its a lack of staff, or they don't know? There are how many people who have made Gauge 1 replicas of the character models with accurate tech? They could get people on that. Its sad knowing how these models have been treated, and I'm happy they're doing _something_ about it after all these years.. but, seriously. When an amusement park with an entire staff, board, and planning department is outdone by one guy in his garage, you know something's up.
I remember my mum taking me and seeing Stepney,Thomas and Rosie
My dad had taken me to draton manor at 2019 and the models are like saying SOS, help me in my brain, very sad
It really goes to show how little respect these people have for the models. I love how they weren’t just tossed in the trash after 2008, but to see how these childhood icons are just breaking down with minimal maintenance really makes us appreciate what we once had.
They should sell this exhibit to Thomas the Tank merch, he actually knows how to maintain the props
Yea
or to the hara model railway museum in Japan because the props there look like there fresh out of the box!
Other people cares about theese models, but sadly draton manor thinks that kids deserve the worst
I bet the guy who stole Toby only did so to save him from a fate worse than death.
@@TotoDG the guy did that to save toby i think that guy restored the model idk
Ye the guy on twitter that owns most of the NG engines takes better care of them then the guys at drayton mannor
@@Steam_Tram_Studios Yeah, ThomasTankMerch. Thank god he owns most of the narrow gauge engines, since he actually seems to care for the models.
Yeah toby is lucky someone stole him anywhere is better than drayton
Its such a shame they are destroying my childhood characters its sad just looking at it. They look like shell of their former selfs. Its just sad.
The way they mistreat and disrespect these models break my heart, growing up with the original Thomas and Friends, I'm saddened to see Drayton Manor abuse and not look after these models especially Thomas and Edward...
I feel really bad for those precious models! Why did this happen? Well it’s a good thing ThomasTankMerch actually did a much better job than Drayton Manor!
And they recently Restored The Original Plastic Edward
@@StabTheDabb hell yeah ^.^
This channel proves that there is such thing as a mature Thomas fan
I’d steel em just to fix them up and literally act like if they weren’t handled well the entire world would just completely explode
They never had henry or gordon
I don't like it there.
We gotta save you bro
The Hara model railway museum was much better.
@@tinanoniwalsh4343 bit they are turning it into a road like u wanted
@@derekheeps8012 not the.road I expected
@@ItsTrainBoy
Toby was taken by one of the workers, and the Stepney model was smashed and parts were sold, my British freind told me
The person who stole toby: come, this is no place to die.
The person who "rescued" Toby, in my opinion, gets a free pass to heaven
To be fair. On a very very surface level. Some of the damage apparantly came with the models when they arrived. They have gotten far worse over time. Which I think may be down simply to the fact park staff handle them. Not specific museum staff.
It's a shame to see such amazing and wonderful models of our favourite characters from something we grew up with, being in such terrible condition. I remember seeing this twice when I went to Thomas Land and seeing those models, it really felt I actually arrived to the Island of Sodor and see some of the characters made the experience even better.
Thomas got his old face back, as well as repainted wheels
House in the rising sun intro love it
Same. I thought nobody noticed it!
Train boy will u do James and the trouble with trees as a story
We might as well make a museum for the models. The museum can be anywhere, but needs to be related to TTTE.
Wonder why they couldn't just put the real models on display, and get (or make) replicas to run, that way people can see something in action, while the originals are preserved.
You know what I wanna host a campaign for the restoration of these models to it’s better form
Welcome to Drayton Manor: The amusement park that doubles as a model train graveyard.
Sonic's ghost is watching you closely. 5:27
Underrated
It’s like they’re calling for help, desperate for release of their silent torture and mistreatment. Calling for their father, the Reverend Wilbert Awdry, from beyond the void for help and a sense of salvation from their suffering. Begging their “mother,” Britt Allcroft, to forgive them for the sense of failure they feel for not keeping up with the modern world.
Thank god for Thomas tank merch. They’ve been able to rescue and preserve some of the models to their former glory.
The Hara Model railway museum also has some of the Thomas props and my god, they handle them with SO much better care than this disgusting dump
This just hurts, seeing my favorite childhood characters die. :(
Probably the original Toby, who got stolen, is treated much better
Not the original plastic one. Drayton Toby was a specially commissioned replica that was never seen on screen. It was made using the same method and casts as the ones seen on screen though
@@furnessespeon where is the original screen used Toby then?
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck There were multiple. One made of plastic used in the classic series/early new series and two brass ones built to replace the plastic one (which was still used when they had to get Toby dirty). One is on display at Hara model railway museum in Japan.
Drayton Toby was also a dummy model like City of Truro, meaning he never had a motor. Which would explain why he was always stationed next to the Tower in Great Waterton.
@@furnessespeon specifically the original plastic body one, is the plastic one the one that is in Japan?
Imagine Toby going on a top-secret detective Mission looking for his own model LOL! At the same time let's hope whoever has the same time let's hope whoever has Toby model is taking very good care of it.
How come in England drayton manor has there models in terrible conditions like it’s hell for trains while in Japan the hara model railway museum has there models spot on and look like the show
Its not American its England
Drayton Manor is a British theme park, not American. And the reasoning for that is that the people at Hara actually care about model trains, and respect these pieces of history.
Thomas is insanely popular over in Japan, the props are also in a museum that focuses on railway stuff so they’re more likely to know how to take care of the exhibits and props where as Drayton manor in the UK is an amusement park that doesn’t have this exhibit as it’s main focus and is completely overshadowed by other parks in the country like Alton Towers and Pleasure Beach
@@motorwayt-s628 I don’t know why Thomas is like god in Japan Thomas is British not Japanese but there still famous more in Japan then here and the uk
Stepney was probs sent back to HIT as well as Edward and harvey
I’ve actually recently been to Drayton manor recently. From what I could see, Toby has yet to return, however Thomas has returned. He doesn’t run anymore, but he’s there. And they seem to have fixed rosey’s motors.
The thing I like about your content is that you're able to pack in so much info in under 10 minutes. Don't stop making vids, love watching them!
i can imagine someone stealing all the models then fixing them then taking them back
If only the person that stole the Toby did that....
That would be epick the only sad thing is if thay tack like 5 years to do all then it wouldn't be a " eh you reterened it " situation it would be a " soooooo you reterened to the Sean of the crime "
Yeah
How much damage was done by Drayton Manor and how much before they got ahold of it?
Did HiT entertainment care about their models after wrapping up filming? Their scripts show they didn't care much about characterisation and continuity so I can imagine them not caring about other stuff.
Unfortunately I’m not the most certain on what was done before they got ahold of any models; but after there’s evidence of lots of neglect and countless examples of damage. It’d take forever to go through every example so I highly recommend checking out the Thomas Wiki for pics of such.
I will say though there has been an attempt to bring BACK the props more or less as of recently? As well as restore some to their former glory, I imagine that’s probably HiT’s doing but I can’t really confirm. You’re right they cared so little about the show when they made it I wouldn’t imagine they care much now either :/
Correction: A lot of the models aren't at HiT or Mattel. According to Elliot KW, they're at a storage location in Southampton. Some are actually at HiT and Mattel. I feel like Mattel tells Drayton to treat the models this way. Thank God for TankMerch for getting one of the Edwards used from 1983 to 2005.
I want the Rosie model.
it's a shame to see the models treated this way, to be honest I hope that they restore ALL of the models after all, due to the human malware going around it would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
I wish we could go back in time to save the original toby model from being stolen, but then can say that wherever toby is now, he's better off thee than at Drayton manor
please do a part 2 or even a whole series! I want to see and hear EVERYTHING
I'm assuming they replaced Edward's face because his original face's eyes nearly rolled up into his sockets. It looked pretty disturbing.
He's just trying to be like The Undertaker! 😂
This was actually a really great video, talk about Drayton manor more and where the original models are now please 🤞
Quickly becoming one of my favorite CZcams channels
I actually had seen that Harvey model when it was missing its face. I was 5. It scared the ever living day lights out of me. My 5 year old head was just thinking what had killed Harvey. I have never looked at Harvey the same way since.
Drayton manner needs to learn how to take care of the models like how the hara model railway museum does
I can teach him
Drawton manor took Thomas to seriously when he said bust my buffers
I reckon you should do a video about the Hara model railway museum, as it's pretty much the polar opposite of Drayton Manor. They care for the models a lot and aren't as damaged, so it goes to show what caring can do
Good to see a formal video on this issue!
Drayton manor employees probably ram these things into each other after hours
This is really interesting to learn about! I’d love to learn more about that Japanese place which has some Thomas models (such as Peter Sam I believe)
5:53 - The Take-Alongs actually are more durable than the ERTLS, which is one thing I like about the former. As someone who's played with both lines throughout his childhood, I've broken through a lot of the couplings and buffers on the ERTL models, whereas the Take-Alongs have the Smart Magnets and buffers more molded into the running boards.
I never had any TTTE toys, just Bachmann EZ tracks based on a real train. Got a Thomas video and STS based books though and watched other videos from a library I used as a child.
Please do another video going more in depth into what happened to some of the models i want to know what draton has done to these peaces of history
this is what pain feels like
At Least Harvey Showed us What The Engines look without their Face Mask...
Dear god, YES! I need more explanation. Hopefully there will be a part 2 or something.
Great music at the beginning! Also, I would like to hear more about Drayton Manor’s treatment of them!
Trainboy really out here using minecraft's nether music
Honestly, it's fitting
Yep
Intro music is house of the rising sun
Worse condition then my Hornby locomotives. Well, some of them. Mine are sometimes perfect, or completely FUBAR. The TTTE props are all equally rundown.
If these models were liberated and restored, they could be distributed throughout more famous British railway museums. For example, York (National Railway Museum), Shildon (Locomotion, subsidiary of NRM), Didcot (Didcot Railway Centre) among others.
2:41 I think it's funny how Thomas is next to a "No Trespassing" sign right next to him. It's like Thomas is saying he want s to be left alone by the staff.
Whoever stole Toby, let’s hope they’re taking good care of him.
When they 1st arrived they where good but now they look like there in a lot of pain
Let me rephrase: They have been fixed e.g Thomas, Rosie and Edward is currently being fixed. Stepney I think has been bought and It wasn’t their fault Toby was stolen. They also have Molly and Hank who are in amazing condition!
The Thomas And Friends Models were really cool in the TV Series i wish they can return to the show again that would be awesome
You'd think the park would make a big deal out of these being the actual TV series props... we've been numerous times and have only just found out through your video...we thought they were just replica models...the whole exhibit is poorly executed and an afterthought of the park owners... I've spoken to someone who was in charge of the Drayton Manor and he said he'd tried to tell the owners that a lot needs updating in the park but his concerns fell on deaf ears and he left the job as it was on a downward spiral.
This is disappointing, but I can say I'd personally like to see more of this style of videos (and an ww2 toby)
And DEFINITELY do a full deep dive into Drayton Manor and all the things that have happened w/ the props, that'd be interesting (even if difficult to watch)
I love that they have d261, he's one of my most favorite characters
I'd go to that theme part if i were ever in the UK, just to see the models anyways.
Not so fun fact toad (Oliver's breakvan) has no face its gone. The rev will curse Drayton manor.
Also old slow coach and bullstrod are heavily damaged and just rotting there.
And you can see hank hiding in a siding from the outside horrors
I’m going there next week on Tuesday and I’m gonna want to go this place the most
The intro theme is fire
When I went to that ThomasLand when I was around 8 and I couldn't really care for how the quality of the models were. I was just so happy that I was actually seeing the actual models that was used in the show.
The HARA railway museum needs to save these poor souls
Wanna go free the engines?
Spent the past two days there, and this exhibition has got worse. The only engines out are Thomas, Rosie, Molly, Class 40 and Mighty Mac. Mighty Mac and Molly are on shuttle units, Rosie is on the loop. I assume they've broken Thomas as why wouldn't you have him running. There was a couple of surprises, but overall it was just immense sadness.
Main the nostalgia of seeing those sets again. Brings me back to simpler times
"atrocities" is a bit ott in fairness.
It's worse than atrocious.
Mattel should sue Drayton Manor
I feel bad for these models.. I grew up loving these talking trains created by the reverend I hope these models are in a better place with people who really care
I am just SO glad that Wilbert Awdry’s models aren’t there. Given how old and the condition his models are in, I don’t even want to imagine what would happen to them here…..
Why steal Tony of all engines 😩
In 2020 drayton was purchased by new owners who seem t care a lot more about there currently revamping the whole exhibition and moving it inside the thomas land shop where security is better
Drayton Manor is like 10 minutes down the road from me in the Car, I’m in Warwickshire as where that is in Staffordshire. I’ve been in the Thomas Model Railway exhibit any time and it makes me want to cry every time I see it.
the treatment of these historic treasures is worse than mattel's treatment of the series
If you listen closely you can here the engines scream in pain, some go home some get stolen but most are stuck behind the glass.