She was a child that got groomed. She was a brittish citizen and was Britain's responsibility. They let white males that went over as grown adults, who married underage girls and participated in killing British soldier's back in to the country but she was the dangerous one.
@garyboyle695 being born in a barn doesn't make you a horse. She's not British, none of the immigrants or their children post war are British. Ask yourself why the white people in India were made to leave when the empire fell, despite having lived there for generations? Because they weren't Indian. Stop being such a morally weak coward.
The thing about Begum is an irony in the context of Christian forgiveness, she was a teen, she had been raised in a community that was positive to her radicalization. David said, “forgive me the sins of my youth.” The UK has active members of Militant Islamic groups running all over the place killing people and Begum is their big worry? She should have been returned to the UK with conditions. Jesus Christ also said, “Forgive them Lord, they don’t know what they are doing.” Forgiveness is a subject long debated in the Christian faith, where is stops and starts, if anyone sues you for your tunic give him your cloak too… If Jesus is the example of how far we should let our enemy go, none of us hold a candle.
A man who was invited for an interview on a variety of subjects, only to have the interviewer bang on and on for a whole hour about the same topic, refusing to accept his guest's view, refusing to move onto another subject, and then feigning innocent surprise when confronted with his guest's deep dissatisfaction at having been hoodwinked in that way.
@@georgemitchellmusic I seen that interview too. And I must say, I agree with you. How he handled that was like watching a child, getting angry for absolutely no reason when he could of just asked politely to move onto another subject. He looked like he didn't want to be interviewed from the start.
Forgiving has to be one of the hardest things to do, right? And repentance. And sometimes when you see things that go on, or things are really rotten in general, you feel as if you are losing your faith. It is very hard, I know. God Bless you.
I can turn the other cheek for myself, but I must defend the weak and defenceless. I may not turn their cheek for them. Those who would strike others must discover that there is an authority which will not merely return the blow, but make the would-be striker wish he had not struck.
Turning the other cheek has absolutely nothing to do with letting people get away with evil or walking all over you. Edgelord anti-theists who wanted to neuter Christianity (before some of them realized the consequences of their actions) convinced everyone that this is what it was about out of deceit or ignorance. In its cultural context, it was a command talking about peaceful resistance to personal injury and insult intended to make your aggressor shame themselves so that others would see their evil for what it was or so that the aggressor would get shaken back to their senses. The efforts of Ghandi to oppose British imperialism of India is probably a good reflection of what Jesus was advocating with "turn the other cheek."
Changing one's mind assumes a changing of one's actions, or at least a genuine effort to move in a different direction in spite of setbacks. This is because it is a consistent theme that from the mind flows a person's words and actions. Everybody stumbles and falls to one extent or another. What matters is if you get back up and keep trying to move in the right direction. If you say you have faith, but absolutely nothing about your life reflects your confession, your faith is dead. You may not be saved by your good works, but faith without works is dead. In other words, put up or shut up.
Is all too easy to wield such questions on morality should one come from an unpressured and priviledged background. 'Academic', really, would be another way of saying it.
Good point. Definitely more than a tinge of what we now call 'luxury values' in this. Bit like eating ethically and environmentalism. All well and good as long as you can afford them.
If history teaches us anything, it's that we want Christianity soppy, because when it's not it's as dangerous and violent as any of the delusions out there.
@@Tyler_W you're absolutely right, Christianity was just damned peachy for all of its history, it's the recent soppiness that's the problem. Let's bring back witch trials, crusades, church law and all the other bits of barbaric nonsense that it provided before it was brought to heel.
That's like someone talking Hans Christian Andersen as real life😂. Actually Andersen's fairy tales were more realistic. I remember one polemic of the two brothers, where Christopher rained supreme .
The Bible is the story of Yahweh's fulfilled plan of redemption given exclusively to ancient Israelites cursed with the Old Covenant law of sin and death and pertains to no one alive today, soteriologically nor eschatologically speaking.
Coming from the man who said we should let Shammima Begum return to the UK.
I miss his brother...
She was a child that got groomed. She was a brittish citizen and was Britain's responsibility.
They let white males that went over as grown adults, who married underage girls and participated in killing British soldier's back in to the country but she was the dangerous one.
She's a British Citizen so she is our problem and not someone else's.
@garyboyle695 being born in a barn doesn't make you a horse. She's not British, none of the immigrants or their children post war are British. Ask yourself why the white people in India were made to leave when the empire fell, despite having lived there for generations? Because they weren't Indian. Stop being such a morally weak coward.
The thing about Begum is an irony in the context of Christian forgiveness, she was a teen, she had been raised in a community that was positive to her radicalization. David said, “forgive me the sins of my youth.” The UK has active members of Militant Islamic groups running all over the place killing people and Begum is their big worry? She should have been returned to the UK with conditions. Jesus Christ also said, “Forgive them Lord, they don’t know what they are doing.” Forgiveness is a subject long debated in the Christian faith, where is stops and starts, if anyone sues you for your tunic give him your cloak too… If Jesus is the example of how far we should let our enemy go, none of us hold a candle.
And we should listen to the man who ran away from an interview in the soppiest manner possible speak about people being soppy because.....?
A man who was invited for an interview on a variety of subjects, only to have the interviewer bang on and on for a whole hour about the same topic, refusing to accept his guest's view, refusing to move onto another subject, and then feigning innocent surprise when confronted with his guest's deep dissatisfaction at having been hoodwinked in that way.
@castelodeossos5042 lol what a simpy take 🤣
@@georgemitchellmusic I seen that interview too. And I must say, I agree with you. How he handled that was like watching a child, getting angry for absolutely no reason when he could of just asked politely to move onto another subject. He looked like he didn't want to be interviewed from the start.
@@castelodeossos5042you’re preaching to the brainless
@@castelodeossos5042The interview was specifically to be on drugs, and was agreed between the two of them.
Forgiving has to be one of the hardest things to do, right? And repentance. And sometimes when you see things that go on, or things are really rotten in general, you feel as if you are losing your faith. It is very hard, I know. God Bless you.
I feel this was as well sometimes, but we have to continue to trust that God is working all things out for our good.
I can turn the other cheek for myself, but I must defend the weak and defenceless. I may not turn their cheek for them. Those who would strike others must discover that there is an authority which will not merely return the blow, but make the would-be striker wish he had not struck.
Turning the other cheek has absolutely nothing to do with letting people get away with evil or walking all over you. Edgelord anti-theists who wanted to neuter Christianity (before some of them realized the consequences of their actions) convinced everyone that this is what it was about out of deceit or ignorance. In its cultural context, it was a command talking about peaceful resistance to personal injury and insult intended to make your aggressor shame themselves so that others would see their evil for what it was or so that the aggressor would get shaken back to their senses. The efforts of Ghandi to oppose British imperialism of India is probably a good reflection of what Jesus was advocating with "turn the other cheek."
Exactly 🤨 don’t come at me with your insipid false supplications
I miss Chris
Chris was sparkier and far less self-righteous than 'Pete', but on the other hand he was an arch neocon and shameless apologist for the Iraq war.
He is a pale shadow of the man his brother was, shame he could not carry on his brothers work.
I’ll take his brother, times a billion
Wrong.. Repent in Greek simply metonoia .. changing of one’s mind.. that is the gospel apart from any thing else.. is not bible..
Changing one's mind assumes a changing of one's actions, or at least a genuine effort to move in a different direction in spite of setbacks. This is because it is a consistent theme that from the mind flows a person's words and actions. Everybody stumbles and falls to one extent or another. What matters is if you get back up and keep trying to move in the right direction. If you say you have faith, but absolutely nothing about your life reflects your confession, your faith is dead. You may not be saved by your good works, but faith without works is dead. In other words, put up or shut up.
The gospel is the Good news of Jesus Christ anything else is not the gospel.
Is all too easy to wield such questions on morality should one come from an unpressured and priviledged background.
'Academic', really, would be another way of saying it.
Good point.
Definitely more than a tinge of what we now call 'luxury values' in this.
Bit like eating ethically and environmentalism. All well and good as long as you can afford them.
@@gerhard7323
Yep... and we all know that not everyone... not even the environment... can afford that everyone be 'ethical'.
One reason i became a atheist
Wish Christopher was still here
No revival of untruth is possible in the modern world.
Censorship is strong on this thread. Curious.
If history teaches us anything, it's that we want Christianity soppy, because when it's not it's as dangerous and violent as any of the delusions out there.
Tell Mr you don't know or understand history without telling me you don't know or understand history.
@@Tyler_W you're absolutely right, Christianity was just damned peachy for all of its history, it's the recent soppiness that's the problem.
Let's bring back witch trials, crusades, church law and all the other bits of barbaric nonsense that it provided before it was brought to heel.
That's like someone talking Hans Christian Andersen as real life😂. Actually Andersen's fairy tales were more realistic.
I remember one polemic of the two brothers, where Christopher rained supreme .
The Bible has lasted 2000 years or so, it will last 2000 more. It will outlive this country for sure, as it will you.
SOPPY ? 🤔
I had to look up the definition, and I am still not sure what he was rambling on about.
Something tells me it's a British slang
He is speaking rightly, if you disagree then walk on by in ignorance and watch humanity crumble around you
What do you mean?
Tiresome old and done.
I like Peter Hitchens but i do wonder why he believes in the bible when it was re written and revised many times and, apparently, is over 90% changed.
The Bible is the story of Yahweh's fulfilled plan of redemption given exclusively to ancient Israelites cursed with the Old Covenant law of sin and death and pertains to no one alive today, soteriologically nor eschatologically speaking.
This completely misses the point. If that were true, then you might as well completely ignore the New Testament.
@@Tyler_W That's correct. The Bible: It's Not About Us Today, Wannabe.
Yeah.
There is no god.
Grow up.
So you've died to find that out?? 🤡🤡
Wrong. The big question is, does God believe in atheists? Grow up, kiddo.
I'll gladly be taken a fool for attributing a cause to something rather than nothing.
@@DevotedSign Have u died to discover that there is?!?!
@@MN-wv9en you'd rather die and find out there is? What's your plan then? 🤔
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