Nice job. Thanx for the video! Id never seen anyone put the 30 gallon inside the 55 gallon. I had thought about a barrel stove for my house but I knew eventually it would burn thru the barrel
Ron, I like your innovation and using basically off the shelf components to create your heat exchanger. Nice clean package all around. Couple of thoughts, you ever think about just building a box around your outer shell an fill with what ever to insulate the outer skin of your heat exchanger and capture the heat thats lost with the stove being outside? Also, in one of your videos you inlet temps looked to be reaching 400 degrees F. Any concern that you might ignite the plywood you have your pipe mounted to coming into your structures? Keep up the great work!!!!
thanks and yes I have thought about the heat loss so in the fall I will be looking into catching some of the heat loss. and I did have concern about the pipe going through the plywood so if you look in one of the updates 4/2016 you can see I made some aluminum plates! thanks again!
Wow, an ingeniously simple idea ... I love it. I wish you would go more into its actual build. For example, how do you seal the front of the outer barrel so the heated air does not get out there? And do you use any type of fire brick or sand in the inner barrel? Who is the manufacturer of the exhaust fan and speed controller? What did you use to insulate between the double air pipe? And could you please explain again what you used to insulate the inner barrel's exhaust pipe as it passes through the outer barrel? Did you install a damper on the exhaust pipe or is combustion only controlled by the air inlet? And how long will the heat last ... for example if I put lots of wood in it before I go to bed, will it produce heat the entire night? What would you do differently if you were to do the entire project over again? Do you ever worry the fire might burn through the inner barrel, filling your basement with smoke? I live in a small house and there is just not enough room to install a wood stove, and propane gets expensive to heat with it exclusively the entire winter. This looks like a way to solve that problem, and keep ash and dust out of the house. A suggestion - perhaps if you wrapped the outer barrel with some type of fireproof insulating blanket, it might lose less heat to the outside. Thank you, Sir.
wow thats a lot of questions lol! here we go 1)the front is not sealed yes warm air can escape but forced air takes the path of least resistance for the most part and wants to get out in the larger pipes 2)no sand or brick used the inner barrel sits to the bottom and i don't remember if i shimmed it up at all. 3) I don't know who makes the fan or speed controller found them on eBay was price shopping. Made in China 4) the only insulation was chimney cement to keep the exhaust from escaping the inner barrels chimney before it leaves the outer barrel. 5) no damper was used at the time. 6) the wood burns fast and wouldn't last all night unless you had a damper and cut the intake air just right with out much exhaust smoke. 7) lastly there is safety concerns that is why i went to a single barrel with the heavy iron pipe that would never burn out than later did a video installing a wood stove in the same basement using the window cutout and triple wall chimney pipe..Most efficient way!! I am still working on the pole barn with a new design and searching for cheap or free things..Thanks for the questions!!
its a good way if you dont want the risk of fire or having to put in a chimney but still looses heat compare to having it inside! thanks for watching and commenting!
if you had it inside it would do the job but if you work on things with gas it is not a good idea because you just cant turn it off.. i have a heater like this if i need fast heat that i can turn off..and it is quiet and heats like crazy..i burn diesel in it www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200680937_200680937
I have a dynaglow 95l/135k BTU diesel heater in my garage, but seems a little gassy in there.. especially now that i've insulated all the drafty parts of the garage. I think i'm just going to put a barrel stove inside my garage, I can't stand the cold, and cant stand not being able to comfortably work in my garage when it's freezing and stinking of diesel. i wish I lived somewhere I didn't have to worry about heating up my shop.
Hi Ron. This was exactly what I was looking for. I want to do this exact same thing for my shed I'm ordering this year. I plan to store gasoline and tractors in it, that said, will this outdoor barrel stove setup be ok? Second question.. how are you preventing smoke from going into your stainless pipes that heat your shed? Thanks for any information! Take care. Dave
Sorry I missed your comment. But the inner barrel where the fire is has chimney cement and in my case the smoke just entered the stack! however this works but hard to heat the pole barn when really cold! It would work work well in states that 40 is there lowest temps!
Didn't catch what kind of pipe you used from stove to building. Stove pipe? Cause it looks like dryer vent hose. Trying to get materials ready for my build. Thanks
Ron, how is the 30 gallon barrel setup inside the 55 gallon one; i.e. do you have it resting on the 'floor' of the 55g or did you suspend it somehow so that there is air flowing a full 360 degrees around the 30 gallon barrel? Thank you for sharing your build and for taking the time with this question?
like what you have done, just keep an eye on the 30 gal inside. If it burns a small hole it will allow the blower to start shooting chunks of burning ash into the shop or house !
@ronsickle - do you know what the outside temp was of the 55 gallon barrel? I'm considering your design, to provide hot air to the basement, and still build another heat exchanger around the entire stove to provide warm air to another part of my house.
Nice 👍
Helpful to give me some ideas! Thanks!
Great idea thank you for the video.
wow, a simple heat exchanger with those barrels, impressive, thanks for showing us your work.
thanks! if the whole thing was inside it would really throw some intense heat!!
how big of a area do you think this would heat and how did the barrel inside the barrel work im looking to heat my basement
Nice job. Thanx for the video! Id never seen anyone put the 30 gallon inside the 55 gallon. I had thought about a barrel stove for my house but I knew eventually it would burn thru the barrel
thank you!
Ron,
I like your innovation and using basically off the shelf components to create your heat exchanger. Nice clean package all around. Couple of thoughts, you ever think about just building a box around your outer shell an fill with what ever to insulate the outer skin of your heat exchanger and capture the heat thats lost with the stove being outside? Also, in one of your videos you inlet temps looked to be reaching 400 degrees F. Any concern that you might ignite the plywood you have your pipe mounted to coming into your structures? Keep up the great work!!!!
thanks and yes I have thought about the heat loss so in the fall I will be looking into catching some of the heat loss. and I did have concern about the pipe going through the plywood so if you look in one of the updates 4/2016 you can see I made some aluminum plates! thanks again!
Wow, an ingeniously simple idea ... I love it.
I wish you would go more into its actual build. For example, how do you seal the front of the outer barrel so the heated air does not get out there? And do you use any type of fire brick or sand in the inner barrel? Who is the manufacturer of the exhaust fan and speed controller? What did you use to insulate between the double air pipe? And could you please explain again what you used to insulate the inner barrel's exhaust pipe as it passes through the outer barrel? Did you install a damper on the exhaust pipe or is combustion only controlled by the air inlet? And how long will the heat last ... for example if I put lots of wood in it before I go to bed, will it produce heat the entire night? What would you do differently if you were to do the entire project over again? Do you ever worry the fire might burn through the inner barrel, filling your basement with smoke?
I live in a small house and there is just not enough room to install a wood stove, and propane gets expensive to heat with it exclusively the entire winter. This looks like a way to solve that problem, and keep ash and dust out of the house.
A suggestion - perhaps if you wrapped the outer barrel with some type of fireproof insulating blanket, it might lose less heat to the outside.
Thank you, Sir.
wow thats a lot of questions lol! here we go
1)the front is not sealed yes warm air can escape but forced air takes the path of least resistance for the most part and wants to get out in the larger pipes
2)no sand or brick used the inner barrel sits to the bottom and i don't remember if i shimmed it up at all.
3) I don't know who makes the fan or speed controller found them on eBay was price shopping. Made in China
4) the only insulation was chimney cement to keep the exhaust from escaping the inner barrels chimney before it leaves the outer barrel.
5) no damper was used at the time.
6) the wood burns fast and wouldn't last all night unless you had a damper and cut the intake air just right with out much exhaust smoke.
7) lastly there is safety concerns that is why i went to a single barrel with the heavy iron pipe that would never burn out than later did a video installing a wood stove in the same basement using the window cutout and triple wall chimney pipe..Most efficient way!! I am still working on the pole barn with a new design and searching for cheap or free things..Thanks for the questions!!
smart.. really good idea! ive been flirting with the idea of putting a double barrel wood stove in my garage.. but this may be a better idea.
its a good way if you dont want the risk of fire or having to put in a chimney but still looses heat compare to having it inside! thanks for watching and commenting!
I'm just wondering if this type of stove will heat up my 575 sqft garage.. Not insulated.
if you had it inside it would do the job but if you work on things with gas it is not a good idea because you just cant turn it off.. i have a heater like this if i need fast heat that i can turn off..and it is quiet and heats like crazy..i burn diesel in it
www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200680937_200680937
I have a dynaglow 95l/135k BTU diesel heater in my garage, but seems a little gassy in there.. especially now that i've insulated all the drafty parts of the garage. I think i'm just going to put a barrel stove inside my garage, I can't stand the cold, and cant stand not being able to comfortably work in my garage when it's freezing and stinking of diesel. i wish I lived somewhere I didn't have to worry about heating up my shop.
i here that it has been below 32 here for days and will be 15 for the high on Friday. i wish it was at least 40!
Suggestion. Your hot air pipe coming into the shop. put a clay pipe around your metal pipe to keep the heat off the wood..
thank you good idea!
Hi Ron. This was exactly what I was looking for. I want to do this exact same thing for my shed I'm ordering this year. I plan to store gasoline and tractors in it, that said, will this outdoor barrel stove setup be ok? Second question.. how are you preventing smoke from going into your stainless pipes that heat your shed? Thanks for any information! Take care.
Dave
Sorry I missed your comment. But the inner barrel where the fire is has chimney cement and in my case the smoke just entered the stack! however this works but hard to heat the pole barn when really cold! It would work work well in states that 40 is there lowest temps!
Didn't catch what kind of pipe you used from stove to building. Stove pipe? Cause it looks like dryer vent hose. Trying to get materials ready for my build. Thanks
i think it was stainless steel dryer vent hose from home depot
Ron, how is the 30 gallon barrel setup inside the 55 gallon one; i.e. do you have it resting on the 'floor' of the 55g or did you suspend it somehow so that there is air flowing a full 360 degrees around the 30 gallon barrel? Thank you for sharing your build and for taking the time with this question?
i set in the bottom 4 red bricks 2 at each end so the air can go around the barrel thanks for watching and questions.
@@ronstickle4694 Thank you Ron. Going to begin gathering the materials to replicate the build. Best regards.
like what you have done, just keep an eye on the 30 gal inside. If it burns a small hole it will allow the blower to start shooting chunks of burning ash into the shop or house !
How is the barrel stove doing now Dec 2019
stopped using it working on a more efficient one for my one bay pole barn! i will post it if i get it done
you should fill it up all the way with wood for very hot burn
agree Tim! thanks for the comment!
@ronsickle - do you know what the outside temp was of the 55 gallon barrel? I'm considering your design, to provide hot air to the basement, and still build another heat exchanger around the entire stove to provide warm air to another part of my house.
i have no idea i wish i had thought about that.