....shows you how original he was and how intricately the song was written. The funny thing is is you are supposed to be able to know where you are based on what the drummer is doing. That's why Military all over the world through all ages marched to drums, Because of the bass, You can hear it and feel it over everything. Based on the current drum beat at any moment you know how to proceed. It makes you react. The Who reacted to Keith Moon. Keith Moon reacted to the needs and requirements of the song. People think Keith is a genius. But he is actually just being what a drummer is supposed to be. It's the band leader who is supposed to keep time by tapping his foot... Not the drummer. The drummer is supposed to be the soul.
In his prime, there was no one like him ~ No one ever came remotely close ~ The drink and drugs took away the best drummer I've ever seen ~ Sadly ~ RIP ~
I'd agree with you, though technically I believe it was an overdose of the pills getting off drink and drugs that did him in. Unlike Bonzo. But yeah, he was definitely a casualty of years of abuse. Sad, indeed.
A quack doctor named Geoffrey Diamond took Keith away by giving him a large supply of hemineverin to take home. Hemineverin should always be taken under careful supervision in hospital. Drinking on it is fatal. Keith was drinking on it, & had taken 32 capsules the day he died. Dr Diamond should have lost his license and gone to jail.
@@hippydippy ~ Hi Hippydippy ~You'll get no argument from me ~ My bother past away from some Aintibiotics for a small rash he had on his leg that a Dr. Perscribed ~
What amazes me is how extremes either sides of the spectrum can be when it comes to drumming talent. Keith played virtuosically, and he had the most powerful, rich sound I’ve ever heard, and this for me was where his magic lied. He had little of the complex, extremely technical rhythm work that people like Stewart Copeland or Neil Peart embodied, but then he didn’t need it. Out of extremely simple drum beats, he created a soul that not a single person in history was ever able to replicate. Thank God he existed for the world to enjoy, even if only for a short time🤩🤩🤩
One of the thngs that always amazes me about Keith Moon's drum tracks is that you know there is nobody else who would play/interpret the songs like he did. I would love to hear Bonham or Peart on classic Who tracks if they were the drummer the song was handed to. I am sure they would have done a great job, but it would be nothing like Keith would play it. When you talk about true originals, he is on the very short list. Beyond thankful he was in The Who.
Ive seen a coulpe of videos of Rush doung WHO covers, i seem to recall The Seeker... and tbh, though i admit im no musician or have a great understanding of the technicalities , Neil's drumming didnt have any of the contained chaotic urgency and beauty of Keiths- Im sure he def wasnt trying to copt Keith, but would say his take was much less exciting
@@sinistregoth Neil was really inspired by Keith in his early years. As he got older, he found that he preferred a more deliberate, disciplined approach to the drums than Keith had, but the theatrical fills in his style have their roots in his love for Keith and The Who.
Love the 1973 pic, gives a good overview of the drumkit. It was with quadrophenia that his sound introduced the single headed toms to the lineup, and this recording uses them well. The outer row added was four of these (later expanded to six). What is so fantastic is how the monster adapted other music to use the hollowed out sound of these single headed along with the doubles. If you listen to the 1973 philly live, summertime blues, my wife, my generation, wont get fooled again.... all have the right amount of this expanded sound added in. If you listen to the 1974 sparks from the tommy movie, the monster comes through in spades.... again having adapted the sound of the extended kit to older music. In all cases you could tell he felt it.... it was incredible.
@sloprun The pic is 73 based on a few things: 4 concert toms (only 73 and 74, later used 6), dec 73 he smashed his kit and replaced it with gold shells. As these aren't gold, they must be the earlier ultra deep blue its nearly black. The two together says 73.
I almost never listen to isolated tracks but am definitely not sorry for listening to this one! Great track. Really one of my all time favorites. Thanks for sharing.
he's playing on Quadrophenia was phenomenal, but I still say the best ever showcase for his drums was the Live at Hull album. The drums are extremely high in the mix, and his brilliance had never been captured like that before.
As a drummer;Wow! I heard this album when it 1st came out...,there are fills I've never noticed! Those tom-tom rolls,and the bass drum trills...,just awesome!!(note;this would be an appropriate use of a cliche phrase!)
My favourite drum track. (And I love all the other great drummers.) This is the one that typifies Townshend’s description of Moon against a typical drummer … Moon started and finished at the same time as the band, but they weren’t always sure of the route he was taking on the way!
The drumming is just fantastic. Keith Moon and John Entwistle were the foundation of these songs (mostly all written by Townsend). From where was the picture taken?
This shows you how original he was and how intricately the song was written. The funny thing is is you are supposed to be able to know where you are based on what the drummer is doing. That's why Military all over the world through all ages marched to drums, Because of the bass, You can hear it and feel it over everything. Based on the current drum beat at any moment you know how to proceed. It makes you react. The Who reacted to Keith Moon. Keith Moon reacted to the needs and requirements of the song. People think Keith is a genius. But he is actually just being what a drummer is supposed to be. It's the band leader who is supposed to keep time by tapping his foot... Not the drummer. The drummer is supposed to be the soul.
His absolute peak. While I am a big fan of Kenney, I can see why Roger felt there was too much dead air in the songs after Keith died. I think Pete's impulse to replace Keith with a traditional/conventional drummer like Kenney was really more a reaction to Keith's increasingly erratic and unreliable behavior. I think he rationalized a lot to justify the decision for musical reasons. On the plus side, the Who continuing meant they were introduced to a whole new audience, including me, that kept things going until, well, now.
Adding Kenney made Pete a better guitarist, because he could stretch out and not have to worry about keeping time. OTOH, so much of The Who’s music was monstrous because Keith and John filled any gaps with a wall of sound. Kenney and Simon Phillips and especially Zak were/are terrific, but when John died the Who sound finally died with him.
Pete decided to bring Kenney in because he was a respected drummer with a couple of decades of experience who had known The Who well for many years. I'm sure he also wanted a drummer that would bring his vision to life in a more disciplined way, rather than have the music take him where it may.
The fact you can tell exactly where in the song they are just based on the drums shows you how integral he was
....shows you how original he was and how intricately the song was written. The funny thing is is you are supposed to be able to know where you are based on what the drummer is doing. That's why Military all over the world through all ages marched to drums, Because of the bass, You can hear it and feel it over everything. Based on the current drum beat at any moment you know how to proceed. It makes you react. The Who reacted to Keith Moon. Keith Moon reacted to the needs and requirements of the song.
People think Keith is a genius. But he is actually just being what a drummer is supposed to be.
It's the band leader who is supposed to keep time by tapping his foot... Not the drummer. The drummer is supposed to be the soul.
absolutely spot on. You can sing Daltrey's part or the bass part, right over Keith's drums. His drumming makes the song what it is.
Excellent point. You could sing this complicated song along like a karaoke track. You cant with others.
In his prime, there was no one like him ~ No one ever came remotely close ~ The drink and drugs took away the best drummer I've ever seen ~ Sadly ~ RIP ~
I'd agree with you, though technically I believe it was an overdose of the pills getting off drink and drugs that did him in. Unlike Bonzo. But yeah, he was definitely a casualty of years of abuse. Sad, indeed.
@@electricmess Whether you get it on a street corner or a drug store its the same plain old drugs ~ He's dead ~
A quack doctor named Geoffrey Diamond took Keith away by giving him a large supply of hemineverin to take home. Hemineverin should always be taken under careful supervision in hospital. Drinking on it is fatal. Keith was drinking on it, & had taken 32 capsules the day he died. Dr Diamond should have lost his license and gone to jail.
@@rocksinger45 I believe more people die from Dr. prescriptions than illegal drugs. It's BS!
@@hippydippy ~ Hi Hippydippy ~You'll get no argument from me ~ My bother past away from some Aintibiotics for a small rash he had on his leg that a Dr. Perscribed ~
There’s enough of John’s bass leaking through to show how otherworldly this “engineroom” was.
What amazes me is how extremes either sides of the spectrum can be when it comes to drumming talent. Keith played virtuosically, and he had the most powerful, rich sound I’ve ever heard, and this for me was where his magic lied. He had little of the complex, extremely technical rhythm work that people like Stewart Copeland or Neil Peart embodied, but then he didn’t need it. Out of extremely simple drum beats, he created a soul that not a single person in history was ever able to replicate. Thank God he existed for the world to enjoy, even if only for a short time🤩🤩🤩
Very nice comment! Thanks for posting.
THE WHO needed Moon and Moon needed THE WHO = The Greatest Show On Earth !
@diverdave4056 wow. Exceedingly well put my friend. So much truth packed into so few words. Thank you. 🥁❤
One of the thngs that always amazes me about Keith Moon's drum tracks is that you know there is nobody else who would play/interpret the songs like he did. I would love to hear Bonham or Peart on classic Who tracks if they were the drummer the song was handed to. I am sure they would have done a great job, but it would be nothing like Keith would play it. When you talk about true originals, he is on the very short list. Beyond thankful he was in The Who.
Ive seen a coulpe of videos of Rush doung WHO covers, i seem to recall The Seeker... and tbh, though i admit im no musician or have a great understanding of the technicalities , Neil's drumming didnt have any of the contained chaotic urgency and beauty of Keiths- Im sure he def wasnt trying to copt Keith, but would say his take was much less exciting
@@sinistregoth Neil was really inspired by Keith in his early years. As he got older, he found that he preferred a more deliberate, disciplined approach to the drums than Keith had, but the theatrical fills in his style have their roots in his love for Keith and The Who.
Quadrophenia was Keith at his absolute best.
'Octopus' Moon will never be exceeded as a drummer. His work on 'Underture' from 'Tommy' made that track pure magic.
Amen. That track is absolutely EPIC!!! Just posted it a week or so ago on my FB page.
Absolutely agree Sir!
he did not shine for long but he shone the brightest, the best drummer to have ever lived
those super fast triplets, just like falling off of a log.
1:56 holy mother of CHRIST
Love all the Moonie screams!
So musical, inventive, inimitable, unconventional, with phrases rarely repeated. I was so lucky to see KM play many times.
LISTEN TO THIS SHIT !!!!! THIS GUY WAS A MONSTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way the drums sync with the line ‘I’m crazy Ma help me’ always makes me smile
Love the 1973 pic, gives a good overview of the drumkit.
It was with quadrophenia that his sound introduced the single headed toms to the lineup, and this recording uses them well. The outer row added was four of these (later expanded to six). What is so fantastic is how the monster adapted other music to use the hollowed out sound of these single headed along with the doubles. If you listen to the 1973 philly live, summertime blues, my wife, my generation, wont get fooled again.... all have the right amount of this expanded sound added in. If you listen to the 1974 sparks from the tommy movie, the monster comes through in spades.... again having adapted the sound of the extended kit to older music. In all cases you could tell he felt it.... it was incredible.
How did you know it was from1973? Do you know the local? I really like this picture.
@sloprun The pic is 73 based on a few things: 4 concert toms (only 73 and 74, later used 6), dec 73 he smashed his kit and replaced it with gold shells. As these aren't gold, they must be the earlier ultra deep blue its nearly black. The two together says 73.
I almost never listen to isolated tracks but am definitely not sorry for listening to this one! Great track. Really one of my all time favorites. Thanks for sharing.
he's playing on Quadrophenia was phenomenal, but I still say the best ever showcase for his drums was the Live at Hull album. The drums are extremely high in the mix, and his brilliance had never been captured like that before.
My opinion Hull was better than Leeds
Pure genius!
Beastly boy. He drove his "borrowed" milk float into my schools swimming pool. Ruined me right there. Bloody Rock n Roll.
KEITH!!!
cool hearing Pete singing along with his demo lyrics on verse 3 "rock n roll's gonna do me, do me an evil wrong"
Keith Moon, greatest rock drummer of all time, may God bless his soul in that big jam session in the sky! 🙏🙏
Happy Jack, very Moon drum heavy.
As a drummer;Wow! I heard this album when it 1st came out...,there are fills I've never noticed! Those tom-tom rolls,and the bass drum trills...,just awesome!!(note;this would be an appropriate use of a cliche phrase!)
Love this, one of my all time favourite tracks shows the who at their best writing and playing
My favourite drum track. (And I love all the other great drummers.) This is the one that typifies Townshend’s description of Moon against a typical drummer … Moon started and finished at the same time as the band, but they weren’t always sure of the route he was taking on the way!
The only way to explain his drumming skills is that there is actually another secret second drummer behind him
Keith was a Force of Nature . that's the "secret" , if you will , to his Drumming
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By no means the only way, but right up there on the list of best ways to describe the phenomenon of Moonie.
A machine gun in human form. All hail Moonie!
Keith played 2* hour shows this way, hundreds of times each year.
Love this. An explosion of percussion.
Genius
Did I hear a hi-hat in there? Love his interesting accents. Moonie always had a knack for awesome syncopation.
This song definately has the most Moon for the money!
Robbie Robertson`s Somewhere Down At Crazy River with Manu Katche on drums. Such a tricky groove, I never managed to transcribe it completly.
Thanks for this. I can drum a bit but I ain't no Keith Moon and needed this backing track. Thank you for sharing!
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How about "Bargain" by The Who? #LoveKeithMoon
I'd kill for an isolated drums version of Bargain.
@@babyshambler PAHAHAHA got too high last night and replied with the wrong channel 🤦♂️ but anyways look out for that!
@@musicmastersdrumtracks2428 I did think it was a bit of an oddity after looking at your channel other videos. ANYWAY, looking forward to it!
And going mobile 😂
The drumming is just fantastic. Keith Moon and John Entwistle were the foundation of these songs (mostly all written by Townsend). From where was the picture taken?
The best!
"Lead drums"
The Best
GOLD!!!
A 3 minute long drum fill
Sounds like Pete do the guide vocals here
Grande
Was his kit named "red headed stepchild"?
🤣👍
Awesome!!!!
Holy Shit!!!!
Roger Daltrey: "He was the best Keith Moon-style drummer."
This shows you how original he was and how intricately the song was written. The funny thing is is you are supposed to be able to know where you are based on what the drummer is doing. That's why Military all over the world through all ages marched to drums, Because of the bass, You can hear it and feel it over everything. Based on the current drum beat at any moment you know how to proceed. It makes you react. The Who reacted to Keith Moon. Keith Moon reacted to the needs and requirements of the song.
People think Keith is a genius. But he is actually just being what a drummer is supposed to be.
It's the band leader who is supposed to keep time by tapping his foot... Not the drummer. The drummer is supposed to be the soul.
His whole life outside of drumming was a mess of mental illness and substance misuse . But as a drummer untouchable .
His absolute peak. While I am a big fan of Kenney, I can see why Roger felt there was too much dead air in the songs after Keith died. I think Pete's impulse to replace Keith with a traditional/conventional drummer like Kenney was really more a reaction to Keith's increasingly erratic and unreliable behavior. I think he rationalized a lot to justify the decision for musical reasons. On the plus side, the Who continuing meant they were introduced to a whole new audience, including me, that kept things going until, well, now.
Adding Kenney made Pete a better guitarist, because he could stretch out and not have to worry about keeping time. OTOH, so much of The Who’s music was monstrous because Keith and John filled any gaps with a wall of sound. Kenney and Simon Phillips and especially Zak were/are terrific, but when John died the Who sound finally died with him.
Pete decided to bring Kenney in because he was a respected drummer with a couple of decades of experience who had known The Who well for many years. I'm sure he also wanted a drummer that would bring his vision to life in a more disciplined way, rather than have the music take him where it may.
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