Eckhart Tolle on the True Purpose of Life: Beyond the Pursuit of Happiness
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- Eckhart Tolle addresses the common misconception that life is meant to make people happy, leading to a sense of misery when expectations are not met. He explores the true purpose of life as a means to awaken consciousness, emphasizing that challenges, obstacles, and difficulties are essential for growth and evolution, both physically and spiritually. Eckhart Tolle explains that life grows through being challenged, and that embracing these challenges is crucial for inner development.
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About Eckhart:
Eckhart Tolle is widely recognized as one of the most inspiring and visionary spiritual teachers in the world today. With his international bestsellers, The Power of Now and A New Earth-translated into more than 50 languages-he has introduced millions to the joy and freedom of living life in the present moment. The New York Times has described him as “the most popular spiritual author in the United States,” and in 2011, Watkins Review (now Watkins Mind Body Spirit) named him “the most spiritually influential person in the world.”
Eckhart’s profound yet simple teachings have helped countless people around the globe experience a state of vibrantly alive inner peace in their daily lives. His teachings focus on the significance and power of Presence, the awakened state of consciousness, which transcends ego and discursive thinking. Eckhart sees this awakening as the essential next step in human evolution.
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Amazing Eckhart Tolle. I'll never forget that evening when I came across a French translation of his book PRACTICING THE POWER OF NOW in a… supermarket. I was quite depressed at that time. I flipped through the book and then I saw this sentence : "what's your problem right now?" It was as if a voice from heaven asked me that question! I asked myself "well yes! What's my problem right now that may justify my feeling so bad?" I bought the book right away, went back home, read it that same night and then ordered the actual POWER OF NOW and all, (YES, ALL) Eckhart's books on Amazone. By the time I finished reading them about ten days later, my perception of life had completely changed. Of course, I, myself, haven't totally changed. But at least, I know the direction in which I'm going and I know that I'm getting closer everyday. The good thing about Echart Tolle is that he doesn't try to teach you anything. He just lovingly helps you sort out the essential from the superfluous. I have never ever wanted to thank a writer in person as much as I want to thank mister Tolle. Thank you so much, Eckhart.
Wonderful to read that 😊❤🎉
Same, in a different way😊
Nice to hear ❤️🙏 never give up.
Beautiful ❤
Beautiful.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for lifting me up, too
"The sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being" -Carl Jung
a light of meaning :)
"The greatest obstacle to enlightenment is getting past your delusion that you are not already enlightened."
- Ramana Maharshi
Amazing Eckhart Wisdom: The world is not here to make you happy, it is here to make you conscious. To awaken you. WOW, WOW, WOW❤
❤ yes, so true!
Amazing 😍
Thanks to Master Tolle I get through my bipolar episodes with journaling instead of hospitalization now.
The saying "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." That's happened to me. A shift in my consciousness and now I hear and understand what Eckhart Tolle is speaking about.
The Purpose of Life is to Be Present. Being present while eating, being present while reading, being present while dating, being present at the supermarket.
I was inspired to share my personal Eckhart story today, so here goes... (sorry for the length). ~ I have never been attracted to man-made materialistic things, but it seemed that the majority had been captured by the lure of shiny objects and endlessly seeking pleasures of the flesh. I couldn't understand this behavior so I looked into it and ultimately found that this was no accident.
That was the path that the fallen ones opened and worked to nudge the "foolish ones" (their words) into choosing at their own demise.
Control was the objective and they had determined "fools" were easier to control, but not everyone got on board. What made some so easy to nudge and others impossible to sway from what seemed to be a higher sense of knowing and why didn't everyone have this intuitive ability?
Why were some folks so immune to being trapped by temptation and others couldn't consume enough forbidden fruit to ever satisfy themselves?
I reflect on my own experiences to see if that carried some weight, since that was key to Eckhart's enlightenment.
Early on I was drawn to living a simple, organic and peaceful life surrounded by animals in nature, where extending love and helping others would be considered a perfect day, but I often found myself out standing in my field alone because I was so different.
I wasn't able to communicate properly with others that I clearly had nothing in common with. I didn't understand what was wrong with me until I submerged myself into Eckhart's teachings and finally made sense of what was truly happening and why I was considered such a bore.
I remember hearing, "You're the sweetest person I know, but you're also the last person I'd want to go to a party with." 😢 Ouch.
My girlfriends didn't enjoy being around someone that was honest and refused to gossip, and the guys didn't like bothering with someone that just wanted to be friends and declined promiscuous advances.
My commitment to only consuming nutritious food was not popular either, and my interest in philosophy, spirituality, poetry and reading books like the lost Gospels and how to transcend the levels of consciousness, just made things worse.
I was certain that I must be a freak of nature, or from another planet so I gravitated to caring for animals and soon had enough to host a petting zoo!
Although I was very happy, I was still dealing with occasional loneliness and wondering why I was so different, which led me to Eckhart Tolle's books, videos, live courses and the Eckhart Now online membership.
I soon noticed the confusion began to clear and I transcended what was left of my ego as well as loneliness, which lifted me into a level of illuminated joy that I can't even find words to describe. It was as if the feeling of loneliness no longer existed. What happened?
I was still alone, but I was no longer lonely and so filled with joy that I truly couldn't care less about being around anyone and actually embracing this newfound freedom.
I was in need of nothing and practiced silencing the voice in my head while falling in love with mopping the floor, or raking leaves barefoot for hours on end. Everything I did became part of my spiritual practice and I couldn't wait for the next challenge to appear where my hold on presence could be tested.
Over a decade I eventually learned how to jump through hoops backwards while doing cartwheels and thought now I was definitely ready to go spend a week with my parents, as Eckhart suggested, but I was bringing my float tank with me. JK.
I still "lose it" from time to time, but I'm observing myself while I'm losing it, because I am intentionally choosing to "lose it" at those particular moments. For example dealing with the impact of censorship when attempting to help others and my ability to discern truth from falsehoods and how I consider the latter unacceptable.
I am not one to shy away from speaking truth to power and observe myself doing just that even when it is simply in a quiet room alone.
I protect truth at all costs and find that courage healthy and empowering for my soul right now.
My choices may not be the right choice for everyone, but I do encourage to find what inspires the heart and expand on that, because ultimately if it enhances our Light then it is right and as a result we can better illuminate the collective field when we are passionately embracing what we love, which is the energy of who and what we truly are and what we were ultimately destined to recall; Returning all the way back to the beginning of the Primordial Light of Oneness from the Divine Source where we originated... in which the fall of duality had separated us from.
Those on this path will will naturally gravitate to solitude or being of service, over gathering shiny objects. And those that have encountered much suffering seem to be the ones getting a head start. Suffering is definitely a gateway as Eckhart has explained.
If it wasn't for Eckhart I would have never understood all this or found my way back home. Thank you my sweet and wise beloved brother. 🌟🙏🤗💕🌿
As I age, videos like this remind me to go deeper into myself so that I don’t suffer. ❤ Thanks, Eckhart.
Eckhart The Best Sit-Down Comedian Ever!
" Let me tell you, there is no purpose in life. Life is its own purpose; it is not a means to some end, it is an end unto itself. The bird on the wing, the rose in the wind, the sun rising in the morning, the stars in the night, a man falling in love with a woman, a child playing on the street - there is no purpose."
Grief is the price we pay for love for sure❤but yes we don’t need to surf those emotional “waves” and get stuck on them . Let them flow through you leaving you unbothered at that deeper level 🙏🏼
As I'm heading to the doctor I can't stop the feeling of grief.
Observe thought and remain as the witness. Do not engage in or identify with them and as Eckhart has said, “cut the link between thought and feeling.” 🙏🏼💕🙏🏼
You come from and are love, fear was programmed into you and your subconscious by your elders unknowingly, same as it was done to them! Being aware of this allows you the opportunity to choose whether or not you want to continue in your eddy of suffering or choose to rewrite/remove/delete the unconscious program for one you have consciously created🙏 pain is inevitable, suffering is optional! Which begs the question, how much more suffering do you want to endure or are you ready for real change? Remember that nothing changes if nothing changes dear ones! The choice is yours ❤️
Far beyond our ego, religion and the beliefs of right and wrong is our true purpose, that peace that passes all understanding ☮️❤️
The purpose of life is to experience it, to live, to explore the senses, and to feel all emotions. The body is not what we are, it's something we use temporarily.
Yup! Without the deep suffering, I wouldn’t know what I know.
I wanted to die, I always had these thoughts of taking my life but one day I really wanted to die and got sick of the possessive thoughts.
Iv always said that hitting rock bottom can be the greatest gift. Since then, 2016, I have waken to the reality of freedom. I’m no longer a puppet to my own mind or the mind.
I still have instances where I “forget” but it now lasts minutes. Within time, it will last seconds, until I hit the point of just watching and feeling it slither away.
Iv had loved ones pass away in those years. I wallow, like a loud or panic cry but within hours or a day or 2 I’m peaceful with it.
I remember questioning myself “I should be hurt over this” but again, I had to learn what loss really was. What death really meant!! I now feel those loved ones when ever I want or when they come in.
Regardless of when I die, I’m happy with what I have been through to get me to this point of utter acceptance with what is.
And I’m truly thankful for Eckart!
His book came into my reality in 2015. I didn’t start reading it until it kept getting brought up in conversations with different people. Since then it helped me remember who I truly am.
THANK YOU!!
The formless, timeless, immortal Soul/pure Spirit/essence is indestructible. They hear you when you speak to them and they know when you think of them. So called, “Death” is an unkind lie. Only, the earthly, body falls away. This has been proven to me over and over again 🙏🏼💕🙏🏼
I’ve awakened to “Practicing the Power of Now” as well, 13years ago. Eventho my dark night of the soul was challenging, but I am grateful for it. We are all on our own journeys home.💛✨🤣
"لا تجزع من جرّحك وإلا فكيف للنور أن يتسلل إلى باطنك" ❤
Ty❤
This explanation is the most perfect description of the very practical process of awakening to our true nature that I have ever heard!
That's it. 🙏
This sense of presence, Presence itself, this immersion in Reality saves you and accompanies you everywhere. It is the silver thread ✨that unites us to the universe.
To the universe that we are and that we forget we ARE. Even pain becomes acceptable because it is a pain that opens you to the world and shows you the absolute and loving grace of everything, in spite of everything.Even the most atrocious appearances. However, an unshakable and absolute Trust in profound harmony of the Absolute is necessary.
You will never be disappointed.❤
SO grateful 💓🙏✨✨✨✨🌺
Happiness and Unhappiness are qualities of the personality/ego brought about by the belief that external illusionary happenings can determine our quality of life. True happiness is predicated on Presence. 🙏😊
Really enjoyed this one.... especially Eckharts sense of humour ❤
Hes so compassionate
Keep practicing inner stillness. " You can feel an inner stillness. Even that's not quite correct. You realize you ARE The stillness"
Life Is Purpose , purpose is Life.
Thank you Eckhart 🙏
I am so very very grateful to the reason for everything for this amazing experience, all the wonderful people I am so lucky to be sharing this wonderful experience with and for being a part of this beautiful and truly amazing Universe. I personally don't need to know what the true reason for everything is to be immeasurable grateful to it for everything 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I agree John! All of us have much to be grateful for, and our time here shouldn't be wasted on senseless trivialities and unhappiness. It's a wonderful thing to be alive on this beautiful Earth and to enjoy the uniqueness of other human beings.🌍🙏😊
@@stephenflood3463 Hi Stephen mate, yes we are all so incredibly very lucky, apparently the chances against any of us ever being born at all are an incredible 404 trillion to 1, which apparently is the equivalent of winning a lottery jackpot every hour of every day without fail for 114 consecutive years, yet here we all are. Lucy doesn't even begin to cover it, how could any of us be anything but eternally so very very grateful 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi Stephen I agree mate, we all have so very very much to be grateful for mate 🙏🙏🙏🙏
감사합니다 선생님 🙏
💐 Beautiful flowers 💐
Wow! He describes what I have gone through pretty accurately.
Thank you so much, Eckhart. ☮ and 💌
Say an engine goes broke and it needs some sort of maintenance. You oil it up, tighten it up ... ready to run. I just reminded myself that that state of happiness is also called a flow, or wave, or zen, in the zone, zing meister, master... so many names, so hard to stay in the zone.
I concur with his message up to a point. Suffering can bring out an awakening and facilitating a larger process of consciousness. That said, the events that engender suffering can also undermine one's well-being to an extent s/he regresses (e.g. becomes avoidant) in consciousness. Antidotally, I recall some friends tell me they once were such and such, they were happier or healthier, or able to do this or that...but, a marriage/divorce, traumatic event, or particular vice not only impeded their growth but destroyed what support and scaffolding they had before. In short, they describe this message in reverse.
Don't forget - if you are not consumed by sadness we should be not consumed also by happiness! 😉
Because of Peace who we are underneath ❤
I used to focus this way. NO LONGER. Having spent decades with horrific pain that no longer is valid for me. Torture should not be a teaching mode. E V E R.
E V E R!!!!!!!!!!!
I first read your book during the COVID. The isolation started my spiritual journey. Thank you.
I hear you. When it hit, I always felt Covid was meant to be a major wake up call . So many of us have learned a lot of hard lessons, but more are waking up which is what is needed to achieve a new earth.
@@chickadeeacres3864 exactly 🙏🏻
Thank you!🕊
“Nice” is a way of being that is about the avoidance of conflict in which nice people idealize themselves and the hyper-vigilance they are using to avoid abandonment. Terrified of saying no, they have no power other than avoiding abandonment by generating confusion whenever they feel the relationship is threatened and the fantasy future is compromised. They seek validation to ensure their security while avoiding the obvious abuse and manipulation that uses their triggers to force their attachments. “I see the good in people” is how they idealize others and when that person acts differently from this ideal, they get confused and then become nice and “understanding” while internalizing the behavior of another person as they feel “I’m not enough”. “I’m an understanding person” becomes the get out of jail free card where they feel like they don’t want to judge anyone because “I’m not perfect yet” aka not enough. They feel people can change since they need the person to change for the abandonment to be avoided. So the fantasy of changing someone else to preserve the fantasies that are constructed resulting in heartbreak and betrayal when reality becomes apparent and the fantasy future of being loved, fixed, healed collapses. Then they become avoidant again fully triggered into analyzing themselves to fix themselves and they feel worthless, abandoned, invisible, broken, not enough, and something is wrong with me. And now they are ready for another soulmate to save them from themselves. Nice is an act that’s generated in children to enable them to be good enough for the parents and they are conforming as a survival instinct to avoid being abandoned and this is the path of codependency and a life of validation seeking and even a contaminating influence upon enlightenment.
I am Worthy to be Loved 🥰 and Blessed 😇 by God. Believe! 😊❤
ones purpose here on Earth is to experience lifes obstacles ,
Great work on challenges being a gateway towards our development Eckhart!
12:11 and yet you are not consumed by it. 🌍🕊️♥️
thankyou😊💚
WOW Fantastic ❤
Since I’ve tried so many things that didn’t work I think a peaceful mind sounds very great
Thank you 🌞🩵
赞叹随喜❤
阿弥陀佛🙏
Oh that's funny!! Same concept as waiting fir that moment "to arrive"
I would never have found Eckhart Tolle had I not encountered my "twin flame" (my Other Self).
True purpose of life, is to worship with longing to get to speak to God personally.
While working, or having business and doing your best towards your responsibility of work, and home while living meaningful relationship.
And having no habit of intoxicants, polygamy, nor wearing anything unsober nor watching anything unsober.
Listening to devotional songs while one the way for work and back home if feel bored.
And during free time worshipping alone, while doing for well being of other beings.
When you add worship it makes it easy to leave any ha it.
And the day you get to speak to God. You have done the will of God and met the purpose of life.
Everything is important, work, business, fried , family and one to marry to and living meaningful relationship.
Thank you 🙏 🪽❤️🕊️🙏
جهان به خود من اشاره داره که خودت جهان هستی و احساس امنیت داشته باشی...
Speeeak ET 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿💥💥💥challenges .....&
discomfort build you Up✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿🙌🏿💥
his two shorts laughs at minute 6:00 are priceless
Well actually it could have been better because I have other challenges too and now I'm sick that's the ultimate challenge for everyone
Life has no purpose. A purpose implies something to attain or achieve. Life is already whole, complete, and changelessly so.
What about if the thought are comwfrom a physical pain? That is also suffering
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very good at suffering
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The meaning of life means many different things to people maybe it doesn’t need to have a meaning we should treat one another well and not seek validation in materialistic things the world would have us all believe that if we buy something that we will find satisfaction
only ego is looking for purpose
Being asleep is so attracting, though... Am I sure I want to be awake?
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Older ekart is so wise 😳
The ego creates suffering ands that’s it. The I’m not good enough dialogue.
There is pressure and suddenly "the ghost is out of the bottle".
Its true but some people born in countries that get exploited from unconscious people do create suffering of others.
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I recently came across Eckhart Tolle & I read his book, practicing the power of now. Omg! It was a game changer for me! Totally transformed my thinking. I do believe that you have to be ready to understand or be in a situation where this all makes sense. Otherwise his words or anything he is saying will not make any sense..or you will not be ready to accept that it really is your mind causing you all this suffering.
I am forever grateful for reading the power of now & I look forward to reading more of his books 🙏🏽 thank you, thank you, thank you! 😊 ❤
Rely with all your heart on the Eternal.
Prov 3:5
James Moffatt
Or it created from having pain abd being sick
I will one day be known as Zachary Zephyrz
If that doesn’t work, I have a backup plan.
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"Some groups, such as the Gnostics and Cathars, believed that we live in a virtual reality simulation, fashioned by an evil creator, with the purpose of consuming our energy and keeping our soul trapped. Plato created the allegory of the Cave to present that we live in a non- real reality, and in fact, are prisoners in it". ~ Howdie Mickoski
The demiurge
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Tv commercials would have us believe that if we buy something we will become a reflection of the model we see in the advertising we can all be supermodels and lead adventurous lives while living in a Nightmare I find it funny how television commercials will show us weight loss products and then follow up with a commercial for fattening food
We are shown commercials for expensive vehicles and then we are shown commercials for extended car warranties
They also show advertisements for electric vehicles and they show the vehicle in an area in some super remote location where you obviously wouldn’t find a place to plug in the vehicle to re- charge it
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🤣 He's so funny
Jesus YOU ARE MY STRENGTH. Lord please bless my children both are special needs, heal them Lord. I’m overwhelmed because I’m on my own as a single mother I have no one to turn to, but you Heavenly Father. Give me strength as I struggle to buy groceries, and as I struggle to pay rent, and as I struggle to do it all for my sons. Keep us safe and protect us from the evil ones of this world. Amen.🙏🏾
All will be well. Stay present, focused on what matters to you. Silence when you can love and listen. You will be spoken too. And surrender. Do what you can and release to God the rest of your worries. Something will carry you through the tension. Much blessings. Ireland.
0:07-0:28 Um, is this a human being that I'm looking at? Look at his posture from his shoulder to his head. What the...
It's another T-drinker
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can you help me i was taken to an appartment building from my mother and about halfway there a brahmin named fandy zapped me into a alternate world and I moved into an appartment but they call it a mental hospital. its an appartment but i think its disguised as a mental hospital.
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hey then im just doing great everythingdidnt go as planned lol
Sometimes I feel ignorance is bliss. It was easier when I wasn't "aware."
Well I don't personally consider the world Blissful right now. We are responsible for seeking and learning the truth that will ultimately set us free, by bringing us aware of the fact we need to go back to the beginning; to The Primordial Light of Oneness, where we originated, in order to transcend home to the kingdom of heaven.
Ignorance leads in the opposite direction, away from heaven and from freedom. I do not call that Bliss, but of course that will require much effort and much work, but the rewards are Justified.
I believe there is some truth and wisdom in what you say, in my opinion its either better to know absolutely nothing or fully understand everything, because a little knowledge can be a dangerously misleading thing 🙏🙏🙏🙏
As christ said:
To escape the illusion.
The World 🌍is not doing its job, period! 😂
Wait… 😯
You are completely wrong Professor Eckhart. There was a time my family controlled Pakistan. We had billions in assets. There was a time members of my family were in control of Oman. I have seen both sides of the coin. No One Dies! 100 million years from now the same humans will be here because you are living in a simulated reality. What is the source of all happiness? Money! Money buys you the best houses, vacations, food, clothing, cars , etc. The ONLY reason some wealthy people may be miserable has to do with them being spiritually bankrupt. That will lead to misery. It is IMPOSSIBLE evolve on a spiritual level without money. Tupac Amaru Shaku & Biggy Smalls have evolved leaps and bounds since they died. King Solomon was the equivalent of a trillionaire. His people evolved intellectually and spiritually because that was there only purpose in life. If you have to think about your finances, spirituality is thrown out the window. It is inconceivable someone can be spiritual and poor unless they are an Alien Being.
Humm: Look how spiritually full India is and how poor they are. I grew up in a poor family and have had a strong faith in God from childhood.
The conceptual world quickly becomes a very weird place when you start taking it too seriously.
i was moving from my house to an appartment with my mom and about halfway there im pretty sure i was placed in an alternate world by this brahmin called fandy.
The purpose of life is to find a purpose in life. Beyond that the only purpose is to hydrolyze carbon dioxide.
Let me guess, to be in the now? 😂
simple message we constantly forget, myself included.
To awaken you to what ? Awakened to the fact that you were created to worship, not humans or materials. We were made to worship our creator. The creator of everything. Everything he created was for our enjoyment, his creation brings us joy. Man took over and created things as well but they don’t bring us joy. Just look around and notice how happy the colors green, blue, white makes us. How nature makes us feel joy, the beach, camping etc but we’re being distracted by man made stuff.
“Do not grieve , for the joy of the Lord is your strength.” Nehemiah 8:10
Actually, we worship the Lord in His house. In the world we all live in we are to serve Him.
Our purpose is far beyond man made religion found in old books…
But religion itself is a man made thing, all that is real does not need human imagination, belief and explanation to exist. Humans, the Universe and everything within the Universe exist because of the unknowable reason for there being everything rather than there being absolutely nothing at all, while all religions are humans clumsy attempts to explain and take ownership that beautiful non man made genuine unknowable reason for there being everything. Knowing and truly accepting what neither you or anyone else can possibly know at this moment in time is probably the greatest wisdom there is know. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Clearly you're not very familiar with Eckhart. He often refers to Jesus's teachings. He doesn't attempt to pull folks away from their beliefs, he helps us to better understand how to walk within our minds and not be bogged down with mental sludge. I hope you'll give him a chance. He's a gift from God for sure.!
For you Eckhart it is to speak to imaginary people who only exist as your objects and to help them from a bondage that they were never in, in the first place
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So basically if you are suffering then there's no hope of happiness because the universe is here to make you concious of that, and then you die anyway, there's no point then fir some of us.
I completely understand that it is difficult to comprehend at first. I have been practicing this for well over a decade so I have a bit of a handle on it, maybe I could offer some insight.
Suffering can open the doorway to higher awareness. Like when someone says, "I needed to hit bottom before I saw the light." That is more or less the meaning. We need to gain the awareness of who and what we truly are, which is pure light, love & infinite joy. Suffering helps us get to that transcended level of Illumination; finding that the Kingdom of Heaven resides within us. If you keep working at it with an open heart you will experience this yourself
@@aprilkitten depends what level of suffering your at, if your housed fed, have friends and occasional happiness then I could see the potential gain, but if your in a more serious form of endless suffering that is not going to go away in your lifetime then Its hopeless and doesn't really benefit you, its not like your going to live again to say oh yeah I'm glad I went through that.
@@aprilkitten Who says we are infinite Joy? I've never heard Eckhart say this, he simply says you are awareness, in otherwords you are the experiencer, so you nay experience joy if you are very fortunate but if you are experiencing endless suffering then things are not so rosy. And notice you don't get to choose to be awareness of someone else's life, your stuck with your life, awakened or not, so if it's bad then there's no peace to be found there.