Pramikon, Sky Rampart | EDH Budget Deck Tech $50 | Blink | Magic the Gathering | Commander

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  • @Quroe_
    @Quroe_ Před 4 lety +165

    A noteworthy judge ruling for Pramikon:
    Pramikon's ETB is not a triggered ability. (Triggered abilities are denoted with 'when,' 'whenever,' or 'at.') Pramikon's ability is an 'as it enters the battlefield' effect, so it's not triggered.
    *Do not try to put a Panharmonicon into the deck to double the Pramikon ETB.* It won't work. However, it *will* double up most of the other cards in this deck tech.

    • @TheCommandersQuarters
      @TheCommandersQuarters  Před 4 lety +42

      Correct! Panharmonicon is in the upgrades for the other creatures, not for Pramikon itself

    • @childodoom
      @childodoom Před 4 lety +10

      Now we just need a judge ruling on if Wayfarer's Bauble is too OP or not. :P

    • @DaGraveCrowder
      @DaGraveCrowder Před 4 lety +5

      Wouldn't it be pointless to double that ability anyway?

    • @airagog
      @airagog Před 4 lety +4

      Another noteworthy implication is that this means you CANNOT stifle the effect.

    • @olafthemoose9413
      @olafthemoose9413 Před 4 lety +3

      @@DaGraveCrowder you could prevent all attacks by chosing right AND left.

  • @politikh
    @politikh Před 4 lety +132

    In these troubled, chaotic times, it is comforting to know that there are some things that never vary, never change. A lighthouse, in a sea of chaos...
    "First up, there's Wayfairer Bubble..."
    Good.... 😌
    Goood. 😊

  • @jabberjaw4669
    @jabberjaw4669 Před 4 lety +184

    Honestly mate, I would love to see a partner commander deck

  • @matthewmartin9983
    @matthewmartin9983 Před 4 lety +49

    Video: *begins*
    Everyone that’s a Commanders Quarters fan: “first up there’s wayfarer’s bauble”

  • @proscrew9217
    @proscrew9217 Před 4 lety +33

    I'll consider this as Christmas present because I wanted to build a deck with Pramikon for quite a while now...😍

  • @linushernandezris6647
    @linushernandezris6647 Před 4 lety +10

    Best channel to watch at ×0,5 speed

  • @funforall9741
    @funforall9741 Před 4 lety +2

    Thassa deep dwelling is also an indestructible free blink every turn to use on your other etbs as well

  • @MechbossBoogie
    @MechbossBoogie Před 4 lety +3

    I really like effects like watcher for tomorrow, because it's strictly not card draw, so it gets around those effects that make it so you can't draw more than 1, the ones that steal your draw, or the ones that hurt you when you draw. Ohai, look at the cards on top and put one into your hand, the rest can go someplace else in some order. Feels good.

  • @brandons1411
    @brandons1411 Před 4 lety +2

    Dualcaster mage and naru meha also goes infinite with something like ghostly flicker. If you wanted to go more along those lines that's what I would do.

  • @deelight6022
    @deelight6022 Před 4 lety +2

    It's like the consolation prize to arcades not having red... But seeing this commander built makes me happy as well.

  • @cybersnap6072
    @cybersnap6072 Před 4 lety +2

    Also, if you're running ghostly flicker, illusionist's stratagem and displace, i'd also recommend running naru meha master wizard since like peregrine drake she also goes infinite with all three of those cards

  • @dantewest1694
    @dantewest1694 Před 4 lety +4

    Wayfarer's bauble used to be a 50 cent card but since he uses it in most decks it shot up to $1.87. Great deck tech btw.

  • @bernieklau8063
    @bernieklau8063 Před 4 lety +12

    I would love to see you on game knights btw

  • @GamerdevilPro
    @GamerdevilPro Před 4 lety +5

    I'm impressed that you didn't make a deck to fully hard lock the entire board because I probably couldn't resist that urge to play prison cards with a commander like that :D
    Deck still looks pretty fun but I probably would include one fireball or something like that so that you can shoot the whole board with the infinite mana.

  • @janniswoyde757
    @janniswoyde757 Před 4 lety +3

    I was hoping for one about Pramikon. Thank you so much for your all the Videos!

  • @mulldrifterz6469
    @mulldrifterz6469 Před 4 lety +8

    I am pretty sure it's the law that all Commanders Quarter's videos start with a Wayfarer's Bauble, lol.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR Před 4 lety +1

    Venser, Shaper Savant is a really good card for this deck because it will control the part of the game game that this deck is missing, sorcery, instant, and enchantment control.

  • @vanDaalstad
    @vanDaalstad Před 4 lety +10

    I wasn't going to build this, but I see I have a lot of cards in this deck already so I might give it a shot

  • @Artiomdesign
    @Artiomdesign Před 4 lety +1

    I build it one a month ago, and my playgroup loves it. Not really but i love playing it 😂😂😂

  • @xlGuitarLegendslx
    @xlGuitarLegendslx Před 4 lety +5

    Nice ! I started EDH with the Jeskai precon. Might as well end the year with it ! Also love your intro :)

  • @finnmagic9505
    @finnmagic9505 Před 4 lety +31

    make an OOZE tribal deck please!!! love ur stuff

    • @ajgodinez
      @ajgodinez Před 4 lety

      I wonder if patrons can vote for an ooze deck

    • @nathan8659
      @nathan8659 Před 4 lety +1

      Ooze Tribal would be awesome! I tried using the Ooze Prime Speaker Vannifar to get Biogenic Ooze, but that commander seems unoriginal.

    • @finnmagic9505
      @finnmagic9505 Před 4 lety

      @@nathan8659 i think that mimeoplasam is great!

    • @finnmagic9505
      @finnmagic9505 Před 4 lety

      @@ajgodinez Great Idea!!

    • @TheBigBrotherBureaubackup
      @TheBigBrotherBureaubackup Před 4 lety +1

      You could use Morophon.

  • @MTGSavage
    @MTGSavage Před 4 lety +4

    I’ve actually been building this as well and I can’t wait until it’s finished

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 Před 4 lety +4

    I went with a very similar combat manipulation theme but I included cards like Hunted Dragon to gift creatures, Avatar of Slaughter to keep opponents attacking and Phyrexian Rebirth as a finisher

  • @cybersnap6072
    @cybersnap6072 Před 4 lety +1

    Pramikon is honestly the most fun commander I've ever played. I've been very surprised to see the general lack of reaction from the community. Hopefully this video stokes interest in it

  • @frankvanderwaals6034
    @frankvanderwaals6034 Před 2 lety +1

    I've made a Pramikon deck with a lot of planeswalkers. Super easy to actually defend them and use their ults! Try it out

  • @tristanheard4046
    @tristanheard4046 Před 4 lety +1

    Would it be possible to see a Syr Carah the Bold deck? Burn spells are generally really cheap, and the amount of value Syr Carah gives those spells is incredibly unique. Love your content :)

  • @brianokafor9748
    @brianokafor9748 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video as always Mitch. 😉 I would love to see partner commander deck tech like Virtus and Gorm. That would be interesting to see

  • @anonymoususer69
    @anonymoususer69 Před 4 lety

    I asked for a quick take when the card was spoiled but I’m very excited that you’re doing a full deck tech

  • @danielerdmann2952
    @danielerdmann2952 Před 4 lety

    Bought Pramikon this week for my Kenrith deck (also inspired by a budget build) and now i have to decide if another board control deck is playable in my playgroup xD
    Thanks alot for the deck tech!

  • @buddadragonmtg4848
    @buddadragonmtg4848 Před 4 lety

    I really dig the new intro mitch . I have a couple of the decks you have made and always share or talk about what you do.

  • @bernieklau8063
    @bernieklau8063 Před 4 lety +10

    Love your content. Please make an odric deck.

  • @dualcarnage7299
    @dualcarnage7299 Před 4 lety +1

    I would like to see Chainer, Dementia Master. Instant Reanimator from all graveyards seems interesting, but monoblack on a budget it's hard

  • @ReadySetPainter
    @ReadySetPainter Před 4 lety +6

    Love that intro bro

  • @cherliesheen5999
    @cherliesheen5999 Před 4 lety

    dude what ur last decj i commented on was already fuego but u also doin this guy to???!!!! A1 content creator smh big ups mad respect. stay posting & stay posted 👌👌👌👌😎😎 sending good energy rn cuz u earned it. this channel is a treasure trove cuz i dont know a thing about good deck making decisions so these vids are a godsend

  • @jacepark4809
    @jacepark4809 Před 4 lety +1

    I would love to see a $50 Josu Vess deck tech and how you could manipulate his ETB effect.

  • @Sheikah_Architect
    @Sheikah_Architect Před 3 lety +1

    Hey if anyone's interested in an official Pramikon playmat, you can get one from OMA (Original Magic Art) in the pre-order section. I'm only posting this because I want one but I can't get it until a total of 25 people pre-order it, and we're at 24 right now lol

  • @joaquinflores6318
    @joaquinflores6318 Před 4 lety

    FINALLY, I've been waiting for this ever since Pramikon was spoiled!

  • @combattortoise7878
    @combattortoise7878 Před 4 lety

    Great video! I would use Zada, hedron grinder to get a planar guide similar effect and Ral, storm conduit for repeatable damage and scry.

  • @SeamanMajora
    @SeamanMajora Před 4 lety +1

    I'm surprised Mystic Barrier wasn't put in, considering it's basically Pramikon but in enchantment form.

  • @LouKarr
    @LouKarr Před 4 lety

    @The Commander's Quarters
    I think there is a problem with the interaction between Pramikon and Spark Double. A Second Version of Pramikon doesnt make the enemies attack less, it makes them attack more. Now they can attack in both ways. They still cant attack who they want, thats true, but they attack more. Its because the wording of Pramikon. It lets you choose in which direction you CAN attack.
    The Double Pramikon would work, if it would read " Choose left or right Players CANT attack in that direction". Correct me if im wrong.
    All in all a great video as always. And know im thinking about building it right now :)

    • @spradiczoom7055
      @spradiczoom7055 Před 4 lety +1

      The text of Pramikon reads "may attack 'only' ... in the chosen direction" meaning you can only attack a player if they are the closest to the right/left. Duplicating Pramikon for the other direction effectively makes it so a player can only attack a person if they are the closest to the right *AND* closest to the left. Assuming you are not playing 1v1, this means no player fits both conditions and no attacks can be made.
      The ruling on Pramikon in the official Wizards site: "If two Pramikons on the battlefield disagree on which direction three or more players must attack, players can’t attack at all."
      Hope this helps!

    • @LouKarr
      @LouKarr Před 4 lety +1

      @@spradiczoom7055 Thanks a lot. The left and right thing was my problem. before you can only attack at one side, and with two you can attack in both directions.
      But thanks for pointing out the "only" thing. I didnt saw this as a restriction, just the word for "take that direction". And didnt thought it would work that way, like you explained. Sometimes MTG rules are weird or the words appear weird to me. English ist not my nativetongue, but the english wording is still better than the german wording :D
      Thankyou Guillermo Padron and happy holidays :=)

  • @BMayo-bv6qs
    @BMayo-bv6qs Před 4 lety

    Love it! I really like Jeskai commanders

  • @dbzrulesmorgan98
    @dbzrulesmorgan98 Před 4 lety

    just finished building my pramikon deck today! i went in a totally different direction but this is pretty cool

  • @Nino4999th
    @Nino4999th Před 4 lety +2

    When this card was spoiled I thought it was another disappointing Jeskai commander but this deck looks so fun

  • @boredcryptek5513
    @boredcryptek5513 Před 4 lety

    Happy to see at least a good number of cards are also in my deck.

  • @oweneaston3121
    @oweneaston3121 Před 4 lety

    Was struggling to brew pramikon. But this is awesome and plays to my style really well

  • @liamkristensen5666
    @liamkristensen5666 Před 4 lety

    Just backed the playmat, super excited to get my hands on it

  • @bluesight_
    @bluesight_ Před 4 lety

    absolutely love it, both me and a friend were about to build this deck

  • @austinblankenship7631
    @austinblankenship7631 Před 4 lety

    Im sure this one took a lot of work to fit that 50 dollar budget, color me impressed!

  • @raydelmartinez2905
    @raydelmartinez2905 Před 4 lety

    Very interesting commander, these effects are always fun.

  • @PrzemekChojeckiAI
    @PrzemekChojeckiAI Před 4 lety

    This Mario-like intro is awesome!

  • @FosterWalsh
    @FosterWalsh Před 4 lety

    I like that new flashy intro! Looks really nice.

  • @whasabi1313
    @whasabi1313 Před 4 lety +1

    This would be an amazing deck if my play group knew that there is a combat step. I don’t think they know there is more ways to be dealt damage than just aetherflux reservoir and fetchlands.

  • @b_olson542
    @b_olson542 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice 'Merica deck, Mitch. Good job as always.

  • @abouttime837
    @abouttime837 Před 4 lety +2

    intro is a bit slow/long but I love it

  • @Pupalah
    @Pupalah Před 4 lety

    Dang mitch, like that new title card!

  • @joshuaperrin3910
    @joshuaperrin3910 Před 4 lety +1

    I was honestly expected a deck based around walls & defensive effects, and then play burn spells once you're setup. Still, great episode! Do you have any plans for an episode to be released on Christmas week?

  • @DanRobotMan
    @DanRobotMan Před 4 lety

    First off, love the new intro animation/SFX.

  • @thecx
    @thecx Před 4 lety

    Loving the new intro! Also, nice build, as always.

  • @chrisgallo2236
    @chrisgallo2236 Před 4 lety

    Next deck I’m building. Hands down.

  • @lucianalacard2180
    @lucianalacard2180 Před 4 lety

    Nice....I run same as prison burn

  • @eac-ox2ly
    @eac-ox2ly Před 4 lety

    God, I love Peregrine Drake combos so much

  • @Mich3linM4n
    @Mich3linM4n Před 4 lety +1

    Why no Mistmeadow witch and/or Eldrazi displacer? repeatable flicker/blink effects and both are budget

  • @superdimentiobrolyX
    @superdimentiobrolyX Před 4 lety +6

    Its gonna be a sad day when wayfarers baubke getsvtoo expensive to be used in these budget decks

  • @lunarbrona4412
    @lunarbrona4412 Před 4 lety

    Super cool intro!

  • @autusticrat
    @autusticrat Před 4 lety +1

    I went the wall tribal route. I called it border patrol

  • @kaidimino9858
    @kaidimino9858 Před 4 lety

    Literally was drafting up a Pramkion list last night. Wanted to do something a little different, but may be blending too many ideas together. The build around card is Clock of Omens, and we run Smothering Tithe, Curse of Opulence, Annointed Procession, Trail of Evidence, and wheel effects to create tons of artifact tokens to tap and untap our thinks with charge counters as a sub theme. We hope to win through Ghiapur Aether grid pinging the board down, or an alt wincon like Mirrodin Beseiged or Mechanized Production. Approach of the Second Suns seemed like a good include with the wheels as well.

  • @charleslegreatthegarbagemo7202

    Personally, I love the old intro/ending

    • @dunamoose3446
      @dunamoose3446 Před 4 lety

      Same

    • @spiritbug869
      @spiritbug869 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah love the new animation, miss the old head boppin intro song

    • @Drewsep23
      @Drewsep23 Před 4 lety +1

      Previous tune was catchy. Sometimes I find myself randomly humming it. New intro is cool but feels too abrupt and doesn't get me to think of the show when I am not on CZcams.

  • @Mr_Myst13
    @Mr_Myst13 Před 4 lety

    Can you do Syr Carah next??? The impulsive card draw of that card has potential to make a great budget list!

  • @guru_of_discomfort5328

    Please please please. Do an omnath locus of rage deck tech! You might not see this but it would be awesome!

  • @minimize4211
    @minimize4211 Před 4 lety

    Can you please do a deck around, Rhys the Redeemed! I have wanted to build a budget deck around him for so long but I could never get a good deck list together without it being over $100!

  • @brandondrake4609
    @brandondrake4609 Před 4 lety

    I like the new intro but I miss the old music😢
    But keep up the good work Mitch 👍

  • @itzbugbotboiz4196
    @itzbugbotboiz4196 Před 4 lety +1

    Another good deck time

  • @grogenberg
    @grogenberg Před 4 lety

    What about mystic barrier... it's an enchantment that is basically the same but you choose direction each of your upkeeps I think

  • @jessewhite1679
    @jessewhite1679 Před 4 lety +1

    Is Pramikon ever mentioned in the story? Like what's it's backstory?

  • @phforNZ
    @phforNZ Před 4 lety +1

    The lack of Mystic Sanctuary - even if it was put into the reasonable upgrades - is puzzling.

    • @kingfuzzy2
      @kingfuzzy2 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes fun with blink / flicker

  • @darksteelmenace595
    @darksteelmenace595 Před 4 lety

    Idk, Im not really sold on the massive amount of flicker in the deck, I think a control approach is a bit better. Also smothering tithe + wheels because why not

  • @thrash208
    @thrash208 Před 4 lety

    Throw in a impulsive manoeuvres to start up some shenanigans

  • @Nullzeros
    @Nullzeros Před 10 měsíci

    How does this work if someone declared attackers at you and then you blink your commander and pick the other direction? What happens to the declared attackers?
    This is a cool idea though, blinking was the first thing I thought of when I saw the commander.

  • @vkp11220
    @vkp11220 Před 4 lety

    Great deck tech! Ramos Dragon Engine please! Keep up the good work

  • @camspunk223able
    @camspunk223able Před 4 lety

    So I'm confused, people are saying it's not actually an ETB effect because its wording, so does that mean a flicker effect still triggers its effect when reentering?

  • @Veremospostagem
    @Veremospostagem Před 4 lety +1

    What if the players just change their seats after Pramikon enters the battlefield to bypass its ability? There's no rule against changing places with other player during the game.

    • @Narabedla4
      @Narabedla4 Před 4 lety

      doesn't matter, the order of priority and turns should stay the same and pramikon can work off that and i'm pretty sure you can't just change turn order in the game

  • @Stimpization
    @Stimpization Před 4 lety

    Funny you post this right as I got the precon that has Pramikon in it. I have a question that may sprout into a future video: is it possible to have a narset, the enlightened budget deck and if so what would be the best way to focus it? All I have found are extra turns/combat steps which is cool and all but the win condition just never really seems solid.

  • @AndrewWoodford
    @AndrewWoodford Před 4 lety +3

    I think the intro has way too many sounds going on. Simplicity has benefits.

  • @smokin8194
    @smokin8194 Před 4 lety

    Why wasnt the blue mana from throne of eldraine in it to get back a sorcery when it comes in untapped?

  • @DarkAngel-ki3co
    @DarkAngel-ki3co Před 4 lety

    Should have a Siren's Call too.

  • @soulassassin0g
    @soulassassin0g Před rokem +1

    "I will build a wall, a huge wall."

    • @jacobnelson6042
      @jacobnelson6042 Před rokem

      “A Great Wall, a fantastic wall, a legendary wall, and we’ll make Naya pay for it”

  • @epicwatermelon363
    @epicwatermelon363 Před 4 lety

    I think you should start a Discord server where we can talk about Magic, suggest future commanders, and share decks

    • @IceTemple13
      @IceTemple13 Před 4 lety

      He has one if you support him on Patreon

  • @aft2009004
    @aft2009004 Před 4 lety

    The new intro anjmation is really nice but i miss the old music

  • @dunamoose3446
    @dunamoose3446 Před 4 lety +2

    Odric, Master Tactician?

  • @robert2063
    @robert2063 Před 4 lety

    I do know that if mana is a problem but I am surprised no cunning evasion

  • @supermasterofsmish
    @supermasterofsmish Před 4 lety

    Love the new intro !

  • @planpunnarit
    @planpunnarit Před 4 lety +1

    Crown of Doom
    and Assault Suit
    ?

  • @bigmookie27
    @bigmookie27 Před 4 lety

    I wouldn't mind seeing a deck tech for "Lyzolda, the Blood Witch" There is lots of potential there.

    • @Sol_Seraph
      @Sol_Seraph Před 4 lety

      I think there is one

    • @bigmookie27
      @bigmookie27 Před 4 lety

      Thanks, I found it. It came out before I started watching the channel, prolly why I missed it. Sad to see it as an infinite combo deck. I would like to see what he does with a more board control build - Deathtouch, token sacrifices, etc.

  • @jls22147
    @jls22147 Před 4 lety

    Shattergang Brothers next!!!!

  • @Tuturial464
    @Tuturial464 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow. The wall commander

  • @ghettronentertainment2259

    I bet wayfarer's bauble is in it. Lmao

  • @thrash208
    @thrash208 Před 4 lety

    Scrambleverse? For a laugh

  • @salfontana5712
    @salfontana5712 Před 4 lety

    You should do a series of mono colored commanders and hit all 5 colors in a row

  • @mariahanover9335
    @mariahanover9335 Před 4 lety +1

    ALL HAIL THE GLOW WALL

  • @incredibly_festive
    @incredibly_festive Před 4 lety

    do ulrich of the krallenhorde