The SN770 is actually extremely good in a system with a fast cpu and DDR5 ram which makes up for the lack of dram in some situations, in some benchmarks it even beats the Samsung 980 Pro. For light and medium read/write tasks (like 95% of workloads) this thing shreds. Unless you're a professional video editor or a game developer where every minute matters the SN770 is all you need. The SN770 also works great for the PS5, even PCI-Express Gen 3 SSDs run well on PS5 and have barely 5% slower load times than the PS5's internal SSD.
I can confirm. I've got 1 x SN770 (1TB) as my main, Windows 11 drive and 1 x SN850X (1TB) for games. I'm more than happy with my choice. Previously, I was only getting Samsung, since my first SSD 830. Then I got the 840, 850, 860 and then jumped to NVMEs, 970 Evo Plus and lastly, 980Pro. My SATA SSDs never broke down, I was extremely happy with them, that's why I kept getting Samsung. However, my 2 x 970 Evo Plus and my 1 x 980 Pro all broke relatively quickly by some unluckiness, I guess. However, I made the jump to WDs and for 1 year thus far I'm pretty happy with m choice.
A little bit over 2 years ago I bought a WD Black SN850 500GB, and I can tell you that it has been a fantastic drive. I did test the speeds when I got it, and it was as fast as advertise: now 26 months later, I get around 5900MB/s sequential read & 4100MB/s sequential write. Drive can get hot sometimes, and I get throttling once every 2-3 days (I bought the w/o heatsink version btw) so my guess its around the sweet spot.
I went with an SN850X 4TB and an Acidalie SSD/M.2 2280 VB01 Heatsink. SN850X works very well with heatsink!!😀. The ambient temperature was 20°c/68°f and the SN850X, with heatsink, it had an idle temp of 38°c/100.°f. Without any heatsink the SN850X 4TB idle temp was 42°c/108°f.... On full load, the temps went to 61°c/141°f with heatsink...
Just keep in mind, the SN770 has no RAM on. It's a RAM-less SSD, meaning, it uses your actual RAM which is obviously slower. However, as far as RAM-less SSDs go, the SN770 is the best. I have one sitting just in case my 990PRO or my SN850X malfunction. The SSDs with RAM on are obviously faster. The 1TB version has 1GB of LPDDR RAM, the 2TB, 2GB of LPDDR RAM embedded on etc. When I tested the SN770, for storage it was more than great. Even in games, nowadays in Gen 4 categories you don't notice much, unless you have the best two which are those I mentioned above, those I've got. Loading a game takes fewer seconds to finish. Loading scenes, loading graphics as you move on in a game etc. Again, kudos to Western Digital which managed to build such good SSDs. They're the 2nd best in my opinion after the Samsungs. Western Digital basically did manage to become so good with these last two SSDs, the SN850X and the SN770 'cause they used a new configuration for their flash-drives. All previous Western Digital SSDs use an older, less efficient configuration.
It's actually cheaper than the 850. WD wants people to have the 850X but also they are having to lay off employees recently as they have so much competition, so im thinking the lower price is strategy to get people who don't want to pay samsung prices for their 990 ssd.
@@nxviez there's been a lot of reviews of it black screen soft crashing on people, like a lot of people, and it's likely a firmware problem that WD hasn't addressed STILL.
good review, well done I love this, so much better than all these reviews by clueless people who probably even use text to speech to read some script...
I got a sn850x 1tb for now, going to be getting a secondary ssd for my gen3 slot but I it was 50/50 between that and a 2tb sn770. Just had to get the sn850 because I wanted to the dram cache but I've had a intel 660p 512gb for 5 years anything would be a upgrade at this point. what is it 1500 to 7500 plus extra space
i just bought wd sn850x and install pcie 4 port, but when i transfer data hard disk to nvmv sn 850x ssd data transfer only 115-120 mbps speed.. if i check speed on crystalcinebench its show 7000mbps read or 6900 write.. dont know where is the problem. can you tell me how to fix this issue ?? system i7 13700k mobo gigabyte z790 ud ax 9 (bios updated) 16 gb ddr5 5200mhz ram
so if im using a enclosure that reach maximum 3000 write and read , the sn770 is a good choice? and run even less hotter than 850x because of the dramless thing ? thanks a lot.
Hey there good vid, i have a question, currently i have a 1tb sn850 as OS drive and a 4tb hdd for storage, i plan on getting a 2tb sn850x since its on sale, should i bother making the 850x as OS drive or just leave it for AAA games and continue using the 850 as OS drive? would I notice much difference using the 850x as boot drive over the 850? sorry if its a confusing question, keep up the good work!
A 2TB SN850 is shown as $369 (w/HS). The 2TB SN850X is $289 (wo/HS). Why are you calling the SN850X the "expensive" option and SN850 the "middle ground". That makes SN850 $80 more expensive; say $65 more expensive when you adjust for the heatsink. Your claims make no sense given the cost numbers you show.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. Which do you recommend for someone like myself running this as an external SSD for my M2 Mac Mini which I’ll be using primarily for music creation in a DAW. Somewhere to run my VST plugins and work song projects from as I prefer to minimize all storage usage on my internal ssd and only store the DAW’s main program there along with what’s necessary to be stored on the computers internal ssd.
@NASCompares - currently I have 2x 4TB WD RED SN700 in my Qnap tbs-464. I just want to add 2 more SSD (to have raid5) . Originally I planned 2 more WD red sn700 , but because they are pci-Gen3 , I think about additional maybe SN850x . Of caurse I'm aware that tbs-464 only handle pci-gen3x2 so SN850x would not be fully used ... but presumably (most likely) next gen of tbs-464 will be able to use pci-gen4 . So what's your suggestion : stick with WD RED SSD line ..? or invest in SN850x ..? (of course SN850 has lower TBW but that not a problem in my case .. I will not plan to upload so many TBs of data..)
Red is better for NAS, simple as that. Red line is designed to be 24/7 in use and has better endurance. Go with SN700. SN850X is better for gaming PC or workstation for instance.
Hello, I have a Qnap nas Ts670pro / Dual M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD & single-port 10GbE expansion card, For SSD cache speeding . Are these suitable for. Normal version or heatsink? thanks pat
I plan to get the newer WD Black SN850X 2TB with Heatsink to replace my 1 TB SN850, also with Heatsink as I am running out of space for my Adobe LIghtroom Catalog. Is there an enclosure that will house the built-in Heatsink on the SN850? I'd like to be able to still use the SN850 with Heatsink as an external drive...
Last December I grabbed a WD SN850 1TB for $146 and a SN770 1TB for $80 (cyber deals of course). So far, I'm not disappointed. The 850 works amazing as a boot drive, posts within 2 sec. And the 770 is great for downloads and video edits for my kids CZcams/TikTok video habits. Could be worse. Lol ....btw also have (x2) WD SN350 2TB for long term storage (I have a X570S Aorus Master with 4 nvme slots).
Today, I purchased a 4TB SN850X for $286 USD! I am in the process of acquiring parts to build a PC, and I simply could not pass that deal up! Especially consider I was wanting 4TB of storage, so I was just going to settle for getting two 2TB SN770s for a fairly similar price. I am so excited lol!
@NASCopares May you or anyone else could please tell me if you have seen SN850X 4TB in your hand that, is 4TB single sided or it is double sided SSD? I am seeing conflicting comments, some says it is single sided and some saying it is double sided! Even in official data sheet they have mentioned exactly same thickness of SN850X regardless the capacity, that means according to data sheet 1TB and 4TB has same thickness, my laptop cannot accept double sided NVMe that's why I want to be sure if 4TB is one sided (I know 1 or 2TB are one sided)
On a PC if I install the game on a second internal SSD will the SSD the game is on be handling the computations or is it the OS drive helping the CPU with calculations? I've got a 3 drives laptop and wondering if for performance I should replace the factory SSD with the newer SN850.
Not quite sure what you mean here, as an SSD doesn't do anything to 'boost' CPU performance in a game, it literally just speeds up access of data (so loading times are shorter, for example). Your actual fps will be exactly the same.
Very good info!!!! Why is the 850x cheaper than the 850 on Amazon? Maybe they fucked up pricing? Was going to get the 850, glad I watched this. Getting the 850x in about 10 minutes before Amazon figures it out.
@@Damnitgary seems like you didn't either. It's just really a price issue. His question is valid. The video says it's as good and marginally better, with the bonus of writes for platforms that can take advantage of it. The X has marginally better reads and IO which is good for the PS5. It's really just a price issue, and the higher price is not justified if using for PS5. This is relevant give that a less than 6 months later the x is selling for less than the 850, and paying more for the 850 because ps5 compatibility is a poor choice
NICE REVIEW BUT 850V IS A BIT OF A WAIST UNLESS YOUR MOVING HUGE FILES.. OR VIDEO EDITING 4K AND MORE., NICE IF YOU HAVE FULL POCKETS ITS OK BUT I LOVE THE SN770 WD.
I have a question, is rebuilding the database the same or different to defragging? I’ve recently read the defragging an SSD is a bad idea, so now I’m curious.
Typically defragging SSDs is considered bad is due to their lifetime write ratings - typically provided as 'TBW' or terabytes written. An SSD warranty will typically end after a period of time or when the TBW is exceeded, whichever comes sooner. Defragging does a lot of reading and writing data and would typically be scheduled to run at regular intervals, potentially causing enough writing to exceed the TBW before the warranty time limit. That, combined with the fact that SSDs are less impacted by random access than spinning disks, not having to physically move heads around and wait for parts of the disk to rotate to the head location before transfer can happen means that it's less critical to have contiguous file storage. All disks have the capability to remap the location of some data, typically used in spinning disks to avoid problem sectors on the disk, transparently to the host, however, similar processes are used on SSD but significantly more extensively for wear leveling, where the SSD will move data around on its own to avoid individual parts of the nand potentially being worn out prematurely. So, in summary, it's complex, having unfragmented contiguous files would probably give better performance, even on an SSD, but defragmentation software made for HDDs doesn't really have the ability to do it right and it's left to the SSD controller to do the best things for both performance and longevity, unfortunately, typically in an opaque way with little to no visibility into what it's doing and whether or not it's actually the best for your needs.
@@Mycall1983 Assuming a database that has data being added and removed from it, it's similar to a filesystem, records in tables may be stored out of sequence, split into multiple parts etc. Rebuilding a database would typically result in the data being written out sequentially based on the primary key. Depending on how the database is typically used, that may help performance. From an SSD perspective, the entire DB would be read and written when doing a rebuild, which could be a lot, but probably happens less often than defragging would typically happen. A 2TB drive with a 600TB writes warranty limit could be entirely rewritten 300 times before the warranty expired. If you have a DB that fills the drive and rebuild it weekly, it'll be about 6 years, with warranties typically not lasting that long anyway. If you did a daily rebuild though, the warranty would be gone in less than a year.
@@dtucny ok thanks for the reply, so basically in your opinion rebuild database and defragmentation are similar, but rebuilding the database on an SSD isn’t as important as on a HDD and if it’s only done semi often or even only when the system recommends will do minimal harm?
Bought the sn770 last year to upgrade my os drive, didnt see a lick of a performance increase. I had a 870 evo before, and that had vnand cache. Good thing I only use it for my os, Im too invested to upgrade or switch drives either. Ill continue to add storage, but going with a good gen 3 drive before I ever buy a nasty dramless ssd.
@@dariusreyes797 Get that combination. You won't regret it. And besides, I was going to need 4TB soon anyway, since I have Gotham Knights and Crisis Core preordered.
@@dionr1168 I was waiting for the SN850 to come with a 4TB capacity but I’m just now seeing the SN850X wondering if it’s the same quality as the SN850…thanks for the suggestion
I thought 2 was there to to you could do I have the sn850 bought it on drop date 500 bucks I can’t believe ho cheap they are now I thought ps5 was only campitae up to 2tb I didn’t know I could put 4. I have a 8 to extern to and my ps5 was over heating and overheating I took the plates off and the plate on the ssd is get maybe 100 he sometime a couple hours and it would over head and shit off o took the plates off it would last days the. Shit off randomly changed the cables and everything I’ve had my Xbox on since stop date no problems I take care of my ps5 no rest Mode nothing turned off everyday but it was overheating after 3 years then I took the fan and mother board out and cleaned it the gpu was so dusty it was disguising I use to have to put a box fan behind it but I cleaned it and I bought i new ps5 have t take. It out the box yet because my old ls5 won’t shut off I’ve had in on since dec 14 trying to see what the problem was I thought it was the internal the. The external I tried everything then after the clean out it’s been a month and a week and it will not ahit off but I do hear the new ones have the new coils mine has the old edition coils it will probably over heat again eventually I hope I does because I can open my new one with 2 year GameStop warranty if it breaks they give me a new one I had only PlayStations warranty and they would have played my ps5 for 5 minutes and said it wAs ok but u had to run it for hours straight which I know they would not do
Everything that is 4000MB/s to 4500MB/s is enough for a PS5 and gaming, the PS5 RAM and GPU VRAM are fast enough to store data that it doesn't even have to move data around from the SSD to the memory that much.
I went with a 2tb sn850x with 3 year data recovery for $274 all together, it'll be arriving next wk. Wish I could of got a 4tb, but it cost too much and it doesn't have a heatsink
@@tavorabrown3622 Basically the options are either 2x2TB or 1x4TB. 1x4TB is more ideal, but 2x2TB is quite a lot cheaper. I just ordered 2x 2TB Firecuda 530s, but it may be I'll end up going for the 4TB model.
@@teemuvesala9575 yeah because I put 33 games on my SSD to test it out and I only have 917.3gb left(counting PS4 games also). So it may be around 60 games total once this gen ends, so ik I definitely don't have enough space
So I was recently looking at the prices on them right now and the SN850X is only 150 USD compared to the normal SN850 which is more for the same size without a heatsink.
WD_BLACK SN750 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 NVMe Gaming SSD up to 3400 MB/s read speed = £718.93 WD BLACK SN850X 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe Gaming SSD up to 7300 MB/s read speed = £292.19 On the date of this comment 10/9/2023 How come SN750 is so much more expensive than SN 850x!
I'm trying to watch this video but it's getting to me. How come you can say "S N eight fifty" but nut "S N seven seventy"? What is an "S N seventy seven hundred"?
Ur English is too “English” 4 me xD I don’t understand all, sry! Is the “X” really not explicit recommended for ps5 by Sony?! Faster is better, or not? So isn’t the “X” (2TB) not better in my ps5 also? :) Thx 🤙🏻
I dont know in still confused on which to buy out of the 2tb firecuda and the WD black sn850. Which would you suggest usually during the week I'll play mostly 4 hours a night when I play but on weekends i sometimes game between 8 to 12 hours depending. Which would you suggest for my uses?
Not really, its actually rather disappointing. Its tad bit better than SN850X, but still behind FireCuda 530 and other NVME SSDs that use Phison E18 controller and Micron 176 layer NAND.
Prices are issues.. specially when i upgraded my cpu memory. Video card already... Im on a 500gb 970 evo pro which is fast enough for what i want it was high perf in 2019. Just not enough space.. i have a 1tb 860 evo sata and 256gb sata and a 1tb mechanical sata. So i need a nvme with more storage get off ny older slower drives. Unfortunstly the 2Tb 850x is expensive. The 1tb is only 99$ which is nice.. but 1tb isnt a lot specially if its gonna make me drop a 1tb mechanical drive already full... So i opted for the silicone power UD90 2Tb for 110$. Its actually as fast as the 770 i found on reviews.. but the 770 costs more. 99$ is great for 1tb 850x on sale.. but ya 1tb is tiny capacity... my 500gb nvme can only hold like 4 video games.. and its frustrating as hell deleting and moving games to slower sata drives i have
I’m pretty sure SSD speeds don’t matter in the slightest in esports. Well, that’s the null hypothesis anyway. Now, speaking from personal experience, I have all three of these. I upgraded my sata boot drive to a sn850 500gig, and later to sn850x 2tb. And I use a sn770 2tb as my “random stuff” drive. And let me tell you, there’s no difference in fps or load times in e-sports titles, or in any other games for that matter. I’d never tell them apart in a blind test. There is a perceivable difference between an OS installed on a sata ssd and an sn850x, mainly in boot times, especially from hibernation. Honestly as far as I can tell these drives are so fast that you’re limited by other components in your system, at least in casual use.
@@teemuvesala9575 Not true - check out TweakTown reviews of BiCS5. It is faster in many tests. B47R 176-layer is more durable, that is the Seagate's only real advantage. WD has higher IOPS.
@@pupsaderpupin5627 I doubt that's the case, more likely WD's inhouse controller is just more efficient than Phison E18 which Seagate uses, or maybe WD's firmware is better. I'd wager WD would improve its speeds if it used Micron's 176 layer NAND.
Apologies for the sound jumps in places of this video guys. Me and Eddie have noticed that a number of projects that were completed in August were subject to an odd sync issue that comes and go's in the editing process, but the processing technique of CZcams makes it rather more pronounced. Publishing a vid and article a day might be putting me and Ed to something of a breaking point! Will review this one and a few others and if it's compromising it beyond reproach, we will remove and replace it. Thanks for the comment and please rest assured that we are working on this.
Just went for two SN770 for gaming on PC. You really won't see any difference and sequential speeds are just marketing for 99% of users 😉
The SN770 is actually extremely good in a system with a fast cpu and DDR5 ram which makes up for the lack of dram in some situations, in some benchmarks it even beats the Samsung 980 Pro. For light and medium read/write tasks (like 95% of workloads) this thing shreds.
Unless you're a professional video editor or a game developer where every minute matters the SN770 is all you need. The SN770 also works great for the PS5, even PCI-Express Gen 3 SSDs run well on PS5 and have barely 5% slower load times than the PS5's internal SSD.
I can confirm. I've got 1 x SN770 (1TB) as my main, Windows 11 drive and 1 x SN850X (1TB) for games. I'm more than happy with my choice.
Previously, I was only getting Samsung, since my first SSD 830. Then I got the 840, 850, 860 and then jumped to NVMEs, 970 Evo Plus and lastly, 980Pro. My SATA SSDs never broke down, I was extremely happy with them, that's why I kept getting Samsung. However, my 2 x 970 Evo Plus and my 1 x 980 Pro all broke relatively quickly by some unluckiness, I guess. However, I made the jump to WDs and for 1 year thus far I'm pretty happy with m choice.
Is the sn770 any good on ps5?
A little bit over 2 years ago I bought a WD Black SN850 500GB, and I can tell you that it has been a fantastic drive. I did test the speeds when I got it, and it was as fast as advertise: now 26 months later, I get around 5900MB/s sequential read & 4100MB/s sequential write. Drive can get hot sometimes, and I get throttling once every 2-3 days (I bought the w/o heatsink version btw) so my guess its around the sweet spot.
I went with an SN850X 4TB and an Acidalie SSD/M.2 2280 VB01 Heatsink. SN850X works very well with heatsink!!😀. The ambient temperature was 20°c/68°f and the SN850X, with heatsink, it had an idle temp of 38°c/100.°f. Without any heatsink the SN850X 4TB idle temp was 42°c/108°f.... On full load, the temps went to 61°c/141°f with heatsink...
I bought the 4TB SN850X heavily discounted as the backbone for my PC for the next 5-6 years.
I don't think you needed to convert the temperatures to Fahrenheit. Even Americans use Celsius when talking about PC temps. 😄
@@TIOLIOfficialthis is accurate.
Just keep in mind, the SN770 has no RAM on. It's a RAM-less SSD, meaning, it uses your actual RAM which is obviously slower. However, as far as RAM-less SSDs go, the SN770 is the best. I have one sitting just in case my 990PRO or my SN850X malfunction. The SSDs with RAM on are obviously faster. The 1TB version has 1GB of LPDDR RAM, the 2TB, 2GB of LPDDR RAM embedded on etc. When I tested the SN770, for storage it was more than great. Even in games, nowadays in Gen 4 categories you don't notice much, unless you have the best two which are those I mentioned above, those I've got. Loading a game takes fewer seconds to finish. Loading scenes, loading graphics as you move on in a game etc.
Again, kudos to Western Digital which managed to build such good SSDs. They're the 2nd best in my opinion after the Samsungs. Western Digital basically did manage to become so good with these last two SSDs, the SN850X and the SN770 'cause they used a new configuration for their flash-drives. All previous Western Digital SSDs use an older, less efficient configuration.
Thank you for the breakdown! Really helped me make a choice. 850X 2TB for $180 currently. Not too shabby.
It's actually cheaper than the 850. WD wants people to have the 850X but also they are having to lay off employees recently as they have so much competition, so im thinking the lower price is strategy to get people who don't want to pay samsung prices for their 990 ssd.
picked up an SN850 1TB yesterday for $50, interested to see how it goes compared to my current Samsung 870 Evo 1TB Sata SSD.
Thanks for the video , really helpful 👍 I’m going to give my 1TB w/heatsink to my bro for the PS5 and buy for myself a 2TB 850x 🎉
Thank you for your video and comparisons. This information will help me make the right purchase.
The SN850X is king. I got a 2TB from best buy for $229 with Amazon price match. Blazing fast.
It's currently 200 at amazon
@@omarmontoya115 great deal!
I just bought it from Amazon. Will it be perfect for ps5? Will I run into any problem?
@@pbcujo06 should be fine! Just gotta install it and formate it through the PlayStation. Enjoy!
@@omarmontoya115 It's no biggie. That's the way technology should go cheaper as it gets older
The 850x 1tb is cheaper for me compared to 850 .Should i be concerned?
Same not sure why doesn’t really make sense
@@nxviez there's been a lot of reviews of it black screen soft crashing on people, like a lot of people, and it's likely a firmware problem that WD hasn't addressed STILL.
good review, well done
I love this, so much better than all these reviews by clueless people who probably even use text to speech to read some script...
I got a sn850x 1tb for now, going to be getting a secondary ssd for my gen3 slot but I it was 50/50 between that and a 2tb sn770. Just had to get the sn850 because I wanted to the dram cache but I've had a intel 660p 512gb for 5 years anything would be a upgrade at this point. what is it 1500 to 7500 plus extra space
i just bought wd sn850x and install pcie 4 port, but when i transfer data hard disk to nvmv sn 850x ssd data transfer only 115-120 mbps speed.. if i check speed on crystalcinebench its show 7000mbps read or 6900 write.. dont know where is the problem. can you tell me how to fix this issue ??
system i7 13700k
mobo gigabyte z790 ud ax 9 (bios updated)
16 gb ddr5 5200mhz ram
I have a 4 tb sn850x for my ps5 I added a heat sink and the speed came out to about 6500. Is that good?
Just picked up the SN770 2 TB for $149
Just picked up the SN850X 2TB for $99
@@zerutypre-owned?
so if im using a enclosure that reach maximum 3000 write and read , the sn770 is a good choice? and run even less hotter than 850x because of the dramless thing ? thanks a lot.
SN770 2tb is £145 currently here in the UK, absolute steal for gamers.
$250cnd
you can get a real SSD for same price, just not from WD
@@NoBodysGamer Such as?
@@NoBodysGamer you stupid or something?
Does it work on PS5??
Hey there good vid, i have a question, currently i have a 1tb sn850 as OS drive and a 4tb hdd for storage, i plan on getting a 2tb sn850x since its on sale, should i bother making the 850x as OS drive or just leave it for AAA games and continue using the 850 as OS drive? would I notice much difference using the 850x as boot drive over the 850? sorry if its a confusing question, keep up the good work!
A 2TB SN850 is shown as $369 (w/HS). The 2TB SN850X is $289 (wo/HS). Why are you calling the SN850X the "expensive" option and SN850 the "middle ground". That makes SN850 $80 more expensive; say $65 more expensive when you adjust for the heatsink. Your claims make no sense given the cost numbers you show.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. Which do you recommend for someone like myself running this as an external SSD for my M2 Mac Mini which I’ll be using primarily for music creation in a DAW. Somewhere to run my VST plugins and work song projects from as I prefer to minimize all storage usage on my internal ssd and only store the DAW’s main program there along with what’s necessary to be stored on the computers internal ssd.
@NASCompares - currently I have 2x 4TB WD RED SN700 in my Qnap tbs-464. I just want to add 2 more SSD (to have raid5) . Originally I planned 2 more WD red sn700 , but because they are pci-Gen3 , I think about additional maybe SN850x . Of caurse I'm aware that tbs-464 only handle pci-gen3x2 so SN850x would not be fully used ... but presumably (most likely) next gen of tbs-464 will be able to use pci-gen4 . So what's your suggestion : stick with WD RED SSD line ..? or invest in SN850x ..? (of course SN850 has lower TBW but that not a problem in my case .. I will not plan to upload so many TBs of data..)
Red is better for NAS, simple as that. Red line is designed to be 24/7 in use and has better endurance. Go with SN700. SN850X is better for gaming PC or workstation for instance.
Best Buy had the 2TB SN850X w/ heatsink for $142. Bought it in a heartbeat.
Hello, I have a Qnap nas Ts670pro / Dual M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD & single-port 10GbE expansion card,
For SSD cache speeding . Are these suitable for. Normal version or heatsink? thanks pat
Im currently using a 770. Im buying another 850x for my system, wondering if its worth to push my os towards the newer ssd.
I plan to get the newer WD Black SN850X 2TB with Heatsink to replace my 1 TB SN850, also with Heatsink as I am running out of space for my Adobe LIghtroom Catalog. Is there an enclosure that will house the built-in Heatsink on the SN850? I'd like to be able to still use the SN850 with Heatsink as an external drive...
Last December I grabbed a WD SN850 1TB for $146 and a SN770 1TB for $80 (cyber deals of course). So far, I'm not disappointed. The 850 works amazing as a boot drive, posts within 2 sec. And the 770 is great for downloads and video edits for my kids CZcams/TikTok video habits. Could be worse. Lol ....btw also have (x2) WD SN350 2TB for long term storage (I have a X570S Aorus Master with 4 nvme slots).
Got the 2tb 770 for 95 during prime day a couple of weeks ago
Today, I purchased a 4TB SN850X for $286 USD! I am in the process of acquiring parts to build a PC, and I simply could not pass that deal up! Especially consider I was wanting 4TB of storage, so I was just going to settle for getting two 2TB SN770s for a fairly similar price. I am so excited lol!
@NASCopares May you or anyone else could please tell me if you have seen SN850X 4TB in your hand that, is 4TB single sided or it is double sided SSD? I am seeing conflicting comments, some says it is single sided and some saying it is double sided! Even in official data sheet they have mentioned exactly same thickness of SN850X regardless the capacity, that means according to data sheet 1TB and 4TB has same thickness, my laptop cannot accept double sided NVMe that's why I want to be sure if 4TB is one sided (I know 1 or 2TB are one sided)
do the benchmarks align w/ the specs?
Thanks for this great video
Great video mate!
Just bought a 4tb sn850x w/o heatsink for $260 thanks to prime day!
On a PC if I install the game on a second internal SSD will the SSD the game is on be handling the computations or is it the OS drive helping the CPU with calculations? I've got a 3 drives laptop and wondering if for performance I should replace the factory SSD with the newer SN850.
Not quite sure what you mean here, as an SSD doesn't do anything to 'boost' CPU performance in a game, it literally just speeds up access of data (so loading times are shorter, for example). Your actual fps will be exactly the same.
thx for the conclusion but what is the difference between sn770 and sn570 apart from the different in pcie version.
هل يعمل بشكل جيد و متوافق و بدون اي خطأ او مشاكل مع PS5 Does it work well and compatible and without any errors or problems with PS5
just bought a 4tb sn850x, it was on sale on amazon for $259. At that price, it pretty much is the Go to drive.
I just got the sn850x 2tb for $90 from newegg, great sale price
Very good info!!!! Why is the 850x cheaper than the 850 on Amazon? Maybe they fucked up pricing? Was going to get the 850, glad I watched this. Getting the 850x in about 10 minutes before Amazon figures it out.
Any updates I also saw it's cheaper in Amazon still. So I might jump the gun and buy it. I just wonder if there is a huge difference then 🤷♂️
@@JzLyfe Think read/write is a little faster. Mine is showing 6500GB available out of rated 7300.
That's interesting, my 2TB regular SN850 did over 6600Mb/s on that test. Maybe there isn't that much difference in performance after all.
Still on Amazon for $229. Glad it still is thats what I'm getting over the sn850 and firecuda 530. How's it been?
So you said the SN850 is best for the PS5. Wouldn't the SN850x work just as good if not better? As long as it has heatsink right?
You didn't watch the video buddy
@@Damnitgary seems like you didn't either. It's just really a price issue. His question is valid. The video says it's as good and marginally better, with the bonus of writes for platforms that can take advantage of it. The X has marginally better reads and IO which is good for the PS5. It's really just a price issue, and the higher price is not justified if using for PS5.
This is relevant give that a less than 6 months later the x is selling for less than the 850, and paying more for the 850 because ps5 compatibility is a poor choice
Great comparison... but what about heat generation between the different technologies? Does it also mean: More speed, more data = more heat?
NICE REVIEW BUT 850V IS A BIT OF A WAIST UNLESS YOUR MOVING HUGE FILES..
OR VIDEO EDITING 4K AND MORE.,
NICE IF YOU HAVE FULL POCKETS ITS OK
BUT I LOVE THE SN770 WD.
I have a question, is rebuilding the database the same or different to defragging? I’ve recently read the defragging an SSD is a bad idea, so now I’m curious.
Typically defragging SSDs is considered bad is due to their lifetime write ratings - typically provided as 'TBW' or terabytes written. An SSD warranty will typically end after a period of time or when the TBW is exceeded, whichever comes sooner. Defragging does a lot of reading and writing data and would typically be scheduled to run at regular intervals, potentially causing enough writing to exceed the TBW before the warranty time limit. That, combined with the fact that SSDs are less impacted by random access than spinning disks, not having to physically move heads around and wait for parts of the disk to rotate to the head location before transfer can happen means that it's less critical to have contiguous file storage. All disks have the capability to remap the location of some data, typically used in spinning disks to avoid problem sectors on the disk, transparently to the host, however, similar processes are used on SSD but significantly more extensively for wear leveling, where the SSD will move data around on its own to avoid individual parts of the nand potentially being worn out prematurely. So, in summary, it's complex, having unfragmented contiguous files would probably give better performance, even on an SSD, but defragmentation software made for HDDs doesn't really have the ability to do it right and it's left to the SSD controller to do the best things for both performance and longevity, unfortunately, typically in an opaque way with little to no visibility into what it's doing and whether or not it's actually the best for your needs.
@@dtucny Ok cool, so how does defragging compare to rebuilding the database?
@@Mycall1983 Assuming a database that has data being added and removed from it, it's similar to a filesystem, records in tables may be stored out of sequence, split into multiple parts etc. Rebuilding a database would typically result in the data being written out sequentially based on the primary key. Depending on how the database is typically used, that may help performance. From an SSD perspective, the entire DB would be read and written when doing a rebuild, which could be a lot, but probably happens less often than defragging would typically happen. A 2TB drive with a 600TB writes warranty limit could be entirely rewritten 300 times before the warranty expired. If you have a DB that fills the drive and rebuild it weekly, it'll be about 6 years, with warranties typically not lasting that long anyway. If you did a daily rebuild though, the warranty would be gone in less than a year.
@@dtucny ok thanks for the reply, so basically in your opinion rebuild database and defragmentation are similar, but rebuilding the database on an SSD isn’t as important as on a HDD and if it’s only done semi often or even only when the system recommends will do minimal harm?
Just got the SN850X for my ps5 for $230 thank you
Did you need to install a heat sink for it?
Any problems?
i originally ordered the sn770 to save money but waited a week and the seller dint take the money or ship it so i ordered the newer one.
Bought the sn770 last year to upgrade my os drive, didnt see a lick of a performance increase. I had a 870 evo before, and that had vnand cache. Good thing I only use it for my os, Im too invested to upgrade or switch drives either. Ill continue to add storage, but going with a good gen 3 drive before I ever buy a nasty dramless ssd.
Currently the 850X is cheaper than the 850 where I am. It’s for a PS5; is it worth getting now or should I wait for the 850 to just get cheaper?
850 is getting phased out
I have the 4TB SN850X and the ElecGear heatsink in my PS5 right now.
How is it? I’m debating on getting it
@@dariusreyes797 Get that combination. You won't regret it.
And besides, I was going to need 4TB soon anyway, since I have Gotham Knights and Crisis Core preordered.
@@dionr1168 I was waiting for the SN850 to come with a 4TB capacity but I’m just now seeing the SN850X wondering if it’s the same quality as the SN850…thanks for the suggestion
I thought 2 was there to to you could do I have the sn850 bought it on drop date 500 bucks I can’t believe ho cheap they are now I thought ps5 was only campitae up to 2tb I didn’t know I could put 4. I have a 8 to extern to and my ps5 was over heating and overheating I took the plates off and the plate on the ssd is get maybe 100 he sometime a couple hours and it would over head and shit off o took the plates off it would last days the. Shit off randomly changed the cables and everything I’ve had my Xbox on since stop date no problems I take care of my ps5 no rest Mode nothing turned off everyday but it was overheating after 3 years then I took the fan and mother board out and cleaned it the gpu was so dusty it was disguising I use to have to put a box fan behind it but I cleaned it and I bought i new ps5 have t take. It out the box yet because my old ls5 won’t shut off I’ve had in on since dec 14 trying to see what the problem was I thought it was the internal the. The external I tried everything then after the clean out it’s been a month and a week and it will not ahit off but I do hear the new ones have the new coils mine has the old edition coils it will probably over heat again eventually I hope I does because I can open my new one with 2 year GameStop warranty if it breaks they give me a new one I had only PlayStations warranty and they would have played my ps5 for 5 minutes and said it wAs ok but u had to run it for hours straight which I know they would not do
Which one would you recommend for macbook pro early 2015?
770 is all you need
Running 2 SN850x 4TB, absolutely glorious.
Wait... TWO... Come on mate, leave some swag for the rest of us!
@@nascompares hey now, I was rockin 2 1tb ADATA XPG 8200PRO's, I was due for the upgrade haha
*calls off the hitman* ...ok
Everything that is 4000MB/s to 4500MB/s is enough for a PS5 and gaming, the PS5 RAM and GPU VRAM are fast enough to store data that it doesn't even have to move data around from the SSD to the memory that much.
I went with a 2tb sn850x with 3 year data recovery for $274 all together, it'll be arriving next wk. Wish I could of got a 4tb, but it cost too much and it doesn't have a heatsink
If you're a gamer heatsink doesn't matter. Its writing that makes the drive hot, reading consumes lot less power and uses lot less energy too.
@@teemuvesala9575 I'm gonna hold out for the 4tb. The 2tb wasn't good enough for me.
@@tavorabrown3622 Basically the options are either 2x2TB or 1x4TB. 1x4TB is more ideal, but 2x2TB is quite a lot cheaper. I just ordered 2x 2TB Firecuda 530s, but it may be I'll end up going for the 4TB model.
@@teemuvesala9575 yeah because I put 33 games on my SSD to test it out and I only have 917.3gb left(counting PS4 games also). So it may be around 60 games total once this gen ends, so ik I definitely don't have enough space
980 pro 2tb is 219 in Amazon lol😂
So I was recently looking at the prices on them right now and the SN850X is only 150 USD compared to the normal SN850 which is more for the same size without a heatsink.
Lol i buyed My 850x for 101 USD yesterday
Can you use the 850x for ps5 I found the 2tb cheaper then the 850
WD_BLACK SN750 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 NVMe Gaming SSD up to 3400 MB/s read speed = £718.93
WD BLACK SN850X 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe Gaming SSD up to 7300 MB/s read speed = £292.19
On the date of this comment 10/9/2023
How come SN750 is so much more expensive than SN 850x!
Hi are sn 770 have dram chance?
Already have one installed but let's see!
Amazon prime day. 2 TB SN7700 selling for £90.
Sadly the 850x 1tb cost $92 in my country meanwhile the sn770 1tb cost only $52 😪 and i need 2 ssd so sn770 looks like a steal deal
I'm trying to watch this video but it's getting to me. How come you can say "S N eight fifty" but nut "S N seven seventy"? What is an "S N seventy seven hundred"?
amazon prime day Sn850x for 65€?
Found WD_BLACK 4TB SN850X for $299 at amazon.
Ur English is too “English” 4 me xD I don’t understand all, sry! Is the “X” really not explicit recommended for ps5 by Sony?! Faster is better, or not? So isn’t the “X” (2TB) not better in my ps5 also? :)
Thx 🤙🏻
I dont know in still confused on which to buy out of the 2tb firecuda and the WD black sn850. Which would you suggest usually during the week I'll play mostly 4 hours a night when I play but on weekends i sometimes game between 8 to 12 hours depending. Which would you suggest for my uses?
300mbs read will never be noticed, however, 1.5GB write speed will. Just sayin'
I’m going with sn850 because I can’t find the sn850x no where
ebuyer! - just bought one.
How come is that now the SN850 is more expensive than the SN850X?
I think they stopped manufacturing it and labeled it a SN-850P instead
KC 3000 and KC review please and thank you 🙏!!
Will the Samsung 990 Pro blow the SN850X out of the water though?
Not really, its actually rather disappointing. Its tad bit better than SN850X, but still behind FireCuda 530 and other NVME SSDs that use Phison E18 controller and Micron 176 layer NAND.
Prices are issues.. specially when i upgraded my cpu memory. Video card already... Im on a 500gb 970 evo pro which is fast enough for what i want it was high perf in 2019. Just not enough space.. i have a 1tb 860 evo sata and 256gb sata and a 1tb mechanical sata.
So i need a nvme with more storage get off ny older slower drives.
Unfortunstly the 2Tb 850x is expensive. The 1tb is only 99$ which is nice.. but 1tb isnt a lot specially if its gonna make me drop a 1tb mechanical drive already full...
So i opted for the silicone power UD90 2Tb for 110$. Its actually as fast as the 770 i found on reviews.. but the 770 costs more.
99$ is great for 1tb 850x on sale.. but ya 1tb is tiny capacity... my 500gb nvme can only hold like 4 video games.. and its frustrating as hell deleting and moving games to slower sata drives i have
Audio sink :(
Will the X work with my Ps5
how the release date of sn850x came before the sn850!
What is better in 2TB , the Wd_black 850X with heatsink or the SABRENT with heatsink or the Corsair MP600 PRO LPX with heatsink ?
850X is the newest and better
@@NoBodysGamer not better believe me sn850 is faster but not way faster
After watching this video and the last, I'm convinced that this guy can't say "seven hundred and seventy" to save his life. SX7700??
Mate...I still can't... IT'S A DISEASE!
a whole lotta talk about specs are ZERO actual testing.... fail...
BANG FOR BUCK SD770 BUT IF YOUR HIGH END VIDEO EDITING 4K & 8K...
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BUT I RATHER HAVE MORE DRIVES..
BANK FOR BUCK SD770 WD.
It's SN seven-seventy not seventy-seven hundred (7700) :P
I’m pretty sure SSD speeds don’t matter in the slightest in esports. Well, that’s the null hypothesis anyway.
Now, speaking from personal experience, I have all three of these. I upgraded my sata boot drive to a sn850 500gig, and later to sn850x 2tb. And I use a sn770 2tb as my “random stuff” drive. And let me tell you, there’s no difference in fps or load times in e-sports titles, or in any other games for that matter. I’d never tell them apart in a blind test.
There is a perceivable difference between an OS installed on a sata ssd and an sn850x, mainly in boot times, especially from hibernation.
Honestly as far as I can tell these drives are so fast that you’re limited by other components in your system, at least in casual use.
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I'm betting the layers on the X version is less than 176... otherwise they'd be advertising it
It's 112, that's the latest from Toshiba (BiCS5)
@@pupsaderpupin5627 Yup and that is not as good as Micron's 176 layer TLC, which Seagate FireCuda 530 uses for instance.
@@teemuvesala9575 Not true - check out TweakTown reviews of BiCS5. It is faster in many tests. B47R 176-layer is more durable, that is the Seagate's only real advantage. WD has higher IOPS.
@@pupsaderpupin5627 I doubt that's the case, more likely WD's inhouse controller is just more efficient than Phison E18 which Seagate uses, or maybe WD's firmware is better. I'd wager WD would improve its speeds if it used Micron's 176 layer NAND.
@@teemuvesala9575 That's a good point, I think Silicon Motion finally came out with their new controller and it uses 176 Micron to good effect.
Jeez fix the audio sync.
Apologies for the sound jumps in places of this video guys. Me and Eddie have noticed that a number of projects that were completed in August were subject to an odd sync issue that comes and go's in the editing process, but the processing technique of CZcams makes it rather more pronounced. Publishing a vid and article a day might be putting me and Ed to something of a breaking point! Will review this one and a few others and if it's compromising it beyond reproach, we will remove and replace it. Thanks for the comment and please rest assured that we are working on this.
It's SN770 not SN7700 as you keep calling it bud. ("Seventy seven hundred") Great video though. Thx! ✌️
Kind of salty that WD came out with a Firecuda speed SSD after I already bought the SN850 upon release 🥲
This is why waiting is the better overall option since you get more variety to choose from as well as a lower price