In fact, you can maintain the effect of your daily power with the bard healer almost all the time. In combat with a lot of ads, you can just recharge your action point in 5 sec with the last at-will and then spam your daily
At this point it feels like wizard is the devs favorite child. The Blademaster and Dreadnought revamp can't come any sonner. Our time will come, it will come (copium)
The game is moving in totally wrong direction. Everything is focused on ranged dps. In a normal environment melee units should do more damage since they also take greater risks and put themselves in danger more often and ranged units do a little less damage but are generally safer further away from danger and compensating by dying less often. This game chose to go in opposite direction.
In balanced MMOs, I've always viewed melee DPS (which I always play, full disclosure there) as the bass and percussion sections of a piece of music. The ranged DPS bring the rest: the crescendos, the highs (bursts), the lows and rests (cooldowns between bursts). But well played melee is there to keep that constant damage going at all times. The ranged makes the rest of it happen. Just my view :)
@scottsmith1652 so you're saying that melee classes should do sustained D.P.S. and ranged classes should do burst with some cooldowns? Melee usually has to move more due to time spent going towards enemies and changing positions because of A.O.E. damage. Which is a D.P.S. loss. Ranged should do less damage than melee, but brimg more C.C. to the table.
@@insertname9736 I hear what you're saying! I haven't played NW very long. My raiding experience comes from WoW. And that is from BC and Wrath. I played mostly furry warrior, rogue and then feral druid in ICC during Wrath. I know games have turned to favor ranged as times have changed. I just recall the overall damage meters would reflect myself and my other melee buddy as top damage because our uptimes were solid. The ranged had a move a lot more or take of other duties at times. It seems like the tables have turned :)
well I'm just coming back to the game , again, and I'm so lost it's been so long I decided to start fresh with a wizard I'm only level 7 but I feel like a melee class because everything is all up in my face all the time except when I can use my daily then I get to watch everything get sucked into the void. I have almost no crowd control at all..I'm just standing there getting wailed on.
New trial has already attracted so much attention from elitists that it's not even fun. They treat you like you are invisible unless you are ranged dps (wizzard) or pally tank/healer. It also doesn't help that the new trial is really unfriendly towards melee dps and that Agent is one of the worst enemy designs since it existing counters 50% of the classes.
I actually love the Cleric class, probably my favourite. It’s hard to play and get the rotation right, but that is what I like about it: you have to give things a bit of thought, and from that, you are rewarded. Cleric spells hit HARD if you can do your Prophecy of Doom and artefact, get combat advantage, and then smack bosses with single-target abilities. You can top the metres with an Arbiter Cleric with practise. I think they’re underrated 😎
The bard healer is significantly stronger than sorcerer. And is also the equal of the cleric. The sorcerer is the poorest of the healers mentioned. If you want a healer who will let you finish the content faster, the best is definitely the Bard
Actually it is all about either CC when you group and stun your enemies or super-high outburst of damage for boss fights after arties or when imobizlized (cocoons etc). Barbie has an encouter that supposedly pulls enemies but on tank :D
@@itsmohdiii3689 in moondancer you have to cover a lot of adds , mdwp you have to control adds (barlor, succubs, mane ...) and in majority you go with DPS checks like cocoons or last shield in mdwp. With DPS check melee is doing OK IMO.
Ok so. Keeping this idea of easiest to hardest in mind Atleast with the tanks. I’d like to share my opinion. And am quite open for others to speak there’s . Putting them all in a vacuum and then applying there places I’ll got from easiest to hardest. 1.) Fighter. It isn’t a competition in terms of simplicity and application this class has in its arsenal. As many before has stated. Squishy the fighter is simply not. But please understand where Aragon is coming from when I explain the other tanks. The fighter imo has it all in the simplest ways which only gets better as you learn to cancel knights challenge early. Having the most consistent stamina sustain and potentially the highest stamina sustain out of all the tanks and have access to 20% Dr from Steve warrior and a 20% health increase daily? Is honestly far greater than one would think. Stamina is our health bar. And if we are recovering that with literally every action we do is just 🎉. Not to mention (Atleast for my build) 8% more Dr from when I’m not blocking (Counts and still mitigates if your guard is broken but only when completely empty aka tank busters that actually bust your shield) This tank is simply the easiest and well suited for new comers and experts alike. However what I believe Aragon is trying to say about this class being squishy is that in terms of just constantly mitigating damage in all situations including mobile mobbing. The fighter falls short and for moondancer tank buster. It can be a little awkward as unlike pally. You can’t divide the damage leading up to the buster. You are prone to getting stunned if you can’t anticipate correctly. Lastly Crit avoidance being the fighters forte is just awesome. Getting a free 10% for blocking and another 15% awareness using dig in and oonga boonga levels of aggro using retaliate, and buffing the teams damage with your main hard taunt? No gimmick required? New comers I encourage. Try this class. Pally: let’s be honest. The new feat for the damaging aggro area is honestly nutty. This is the only tank where I can comfortably drop aggro ring and pick another for stats or buffs. This tank is deceptively challenging and at the same time easy. Pally absolutely dominates mobbing situations and it’s not even a contest. The potential survivability is honestly frightening. As you can get a true mitigation of 50% on top of your stats! Like what? 😂. 80+% if you are using Tiamats and those arm pieces that give Dr for getting hit. Tank busters against a pally is honestly the only thing that can truly threaten to break a fully self buffed pally shield. Otherwise you are chilling. All the while your mechanic is drawing so much aggro. You are the only tank who can afford to just slot in survivability encounters if you wanted to and still tank like a boss. Binding oath will refill your stamina over the course of its duration in bursts of about 1/3rd of your stamina bar 4 times. Not to mention you have RANGED hard taunts (yes plural) aoe aggro at will you truly are suited for every possible situation….the draw back? Divinity. This secondary resource is as good as you make it. And that on its own is based on your stats, skill and knowledge. For newer players it’s easy to leave the mechanic on and just wail at things. But the drain is quite silly albeit reasonably some of your better aggro tools cost divinity. And the primary one we would use “Smite” costs divinity and a class feature slot to even make it a hard taunt. If balancing divinity was out of the question. This would be the easiest tank no doubt about it. Way too many benefits for those who can master the divinity. And honestly truly crushing for those who can’t. Lastly the forte being deflect severity is honestly not all that bad. Deflect being arguably the most misunderstood (or flat ignored) stat in the game by all but the most curious of people is honestly quite ridiculous. Yes. Some if not all tank busters ignore deflect… so? I get it the problem is having to level both it and its severity. But as a pally? This plays into its absurd survivability it’s the only tank where I was seeing 3 digit numbers in Moondancer and that was without abilities aside from the mechanic. For mobbing and you have capped the previous three? Unless you are strictly doing trials. Do yourself a favor on all of your tanks. Try it. Yes if capped it’s 90% chance to reduce the hit by 90% of the damage after all mitigations were applied. So that means 10% of the time you’ll take full damage…. So? What is the gamble? Please explain to me? 3.) Barbarian. Tbh I wanted to put pally and Barb as a tie. But hey this is my opinion and you super welcome to discuss your own! So let’s start out by saying that remember I said fighter has POTENTIALLY the highest stamina sustain? Yeah this class is simply the current holder of highest stamina sustain in the game. With the paragon feat the restores your stamina upon unstoppable ending, invigorate, and sure strike buffed by said unstoppable and what I consider average stamina regen of 65%? The boss has to be very aggressive to beat down your stamina for sure strike to not be considered more than enough during unstoppable. And again..Unstoppable makes you well…unstoppable if you play this right. Barbs have a rhythm imo for each dungeon and each mob. That so long as you do your part. Stamina is hardly ever gone beyond your control. Most of the time it’s by choice. ( good or bad). Barbarians has arguably the most satisfying gameplay out of all the tanks as nothing will ever make you back down if you are well informed in the content you are playing in. Barbarians also has my most favorite taunt in the game as it groups up enemies in a nice clump. It’s no singularity but everyone will capitalize on it like one. The barbarian also brings some unique buffs to the team. Increasing the teams max Hp by 15% making those lovable blue bubbles everyone loves to hide behind that much better if it’s a full shield, 5% physical damage and hopefully once it’s patched. 20% movement speed! Barbarians are the only tank that doesn’t have a % Damage mitigation skill. But instead increases their health to massive amounts. In their kit alone they can increase their HP by 60%. And another 20% from those dragon boots! Making your Hp go even further beyond! Which in turn makes your stamina health pool even more ridiculous. Blocking 2mil and having a bit stamina to spare is no longer a dream you didn’t know you had. Aggro on this class is honestly in my opinion where i might get a little flack. So for general content. Threatening presence + Frustrating slash proc + challengers+ Rage and rally is more than enough. I don’t even use takedown. But for higher content. Is when you might have to consider primal fury. This is where it gets weird. This ability’s magnitude can go up 600! With increased threat modifiers. So its effective damage is honestly dumb. But….it scales with stamina loss….and that to me is just..weird. I’m not saying this isn’t impossible to manage. Far from it. It’s because of the stamina situation utilizing this is some of if not the most easiest big aggro button in the game. But it requires your rage. Aka you 60% health block. And those very dungeons in which you’d consider using this hurt quite a bit unless you’re all nice and capped. But mastering this particular dance. Your health is still very safe with all the options you have. And the fact your forte is awareness’ 😃. Barbarians to me is a tank that can comfortably handle both aoe and single target situations. But not exceeding pally in aoe, nor fighter in single. But what it truly excels in is keeping control. Unstoppable being able to break away control effects on you is just 🤤. Also gain free critical avoidance while blocking during unstoppable is very welcome here. As crit avoidance is very important. Thank you all for reading my opinion. I hope to hear yours! With all these new changes I feel like the title for best tank is anyone’s guess. But in terms of easiest? I say fighter
I wanted to add one more thing here. Ahem…. YOU DO NOT NEED A PALLY BUBBLE TO SURVIVE. Each tank innately has the tools to comfortably tank all busters in their kit. 20% mitigations + Health increase daily is more than enough to protect you. And mind you pally has the luxury of just Quatering said busters and Barbie’s do it with not Mitigation abilities. Just health buffs. I encourage you to give story teller bards a chance. Bards are walking Arti calls I tell you!! 🤭😂
The thing I did on a Ranger and admittedly, I never did any of the hard trials, but the thing I did is, I would use my encounters on the ranged, and then I would use that I would stand switch and use that dash to get up close, mainly the shit out of them, then stand switch again and use theencounter power to back away, shooting and rinse and repeat back-and-forth that way. I never was standing near them that long and I would use up my encounters on one then switch to the other and then back-and-forth.
Ideally you have someone else in the group who can apply that physical damage debuff, a rogue or Barbarian can. But yeah, if you don't, then you may be better with commanders at least for the Arti call
Yoohooooooo! Feels good to chose barbarian after this vid hahaha Hope to get into cool content soon, just reached lv 20 and i'll learn some sentinel gameplays :3 Edit: Thanks for all the effort and content u create, dude, u're a god! Alot of content would be missing on youtube and the rest of the internet without you bro
God? The dude who make videos on classes he dont play for it to get nerf? Yet his main class has an broken encounter power and never made a video on it to get it fixed We dont call that a "god"
@@topshotterz4eva speak for yourself, buddy, i'm a new commer to the game and ppl like me appreciate any kind of content that keeps the game goong and helps ppl
@@MVeniality Dont mind Potatoes like this, typical Haters, Do nothing themselves and have imbecilic and contradictory comebacks for attention that make themselves look like rainbow cupcakes.
The Bard minstrel does have defensive boosts/offensive boosts. Use the gambler feat instead of storyteller. You get the 2 extra songs that make a huge difference and should move the bard to the easy slot.
Fighter DPS definitely needs a lot of work. Single target is pretty good but the AOE powers are too small, too slow, and too weak. AOE Daily power is just rubbish too.
i have complained before about the warlock dps but damn i dedicate to primarily AOE (hell fire ring, fiery bolt, and curse bite) and holy shit now people look for me so i can join their Q lol
It seems clear that the devs haven't learned anything and it's a huge part of why I quit the game (not the only reason, the constant reworks were getting tiresome also to the point the game started feeling like a chore instead of being fun, after working a long day the last thing you want to do is feel like your going to another job lol) I'm sure I'm not the only one who just got fed up and then the melee class was becoming obsolete in end game, I enjoy playing melee (Rogue was my main) but I couldn't get into new end game trials unless they were friends and even then people got frustrated in the new content because you were the weakest link, everyone wanted wizard DPS, the last time we were viable was VOS. A well designed game should not cater to one class only but be balanced so that every class can perform somewhat equally and be viable. Everyone said create a wizard, but I didn't want to play a class that I didn't enjoy. I think I heard the game was laying off devs and rumor that it could shut down eventually & permanently, every one of us who quit the game and stopped investing in the game by purchasing VIP and occasional ZEN store purchases hurts their revenue & bottom line, it's not good business practice to drive away your customers and over the years that's exactly what they've been doing, they're a victim of their own demise. I was thinking about coming back to the game but after this video & seeing nothing has changed I won't. Thanks Aragorn, I haven't seen your vids in a while being I don't play anymore, keep up the good work you do for the community, you seem to care more about this game than the Devs do!
I have been playing a lot of DDO lately after giving it a real go and wanted to get into this game the same way. Your guides and lists are helpful. I bought enough slots to make alts of every class and I will mostly solo due to time constraints in daily life. I would assume that all the dps paragons for those classes that have alternative choices (tank or healer) is the way to go, but what about the classes that only have dps choices? Are the paragons you pointed out still viable as a solo character or should I go the other path? Oh and I know it's not a big deal to some people, but the word Melee (spells ME-Lee) is actually pronounced May-LAY. That's the correct pronunciation. It's a little nuance, but its still matters and it's less of TOE-MAT-TOE or TOM-AUT-TOE. It's actually just May lay. Take care.
For wizard and ranger, go with the paragon I suggested. You will unlock it at level 11. For Rogue, well they are getting a bunch of changes and we shall see. I'll cover it in videos
worlock has so manny problems with animations, that I wish they just nuked it's animation canceling completly, and rebalanced it. depending on my ping, i can go from perfect animation canceling, to impossible. And it's close to nothing to do with my internet, it's all about how much their servers want to be shit that day...
@@gampie13 I can say that warlock shouldn't be that high on the list when you look at regular DPS rankings and the way canceling is used to (supposedly) get 25% damage output. AoE just looks cool, but it is too weak, ripping out the curse cannot be impacted by canceling or high regen. I've seen only few that were aspiring to have top tier and even they had significantly less damage than wizards. I gladly would give up the canceling for improved timing and mechanics on warlock hellbringer.
i wished the warlock dps had an attack to pull enemies together, would help alot with croud control.. although for aoe its probably still pretty decent compared to other dps classes.. btw does anybody know where to get those balloons seen at 6:44, or where they have been obtainable? drives me crazy everytime i see them cause i cant find anything about them ^^
i agree i usually just run with the minotaur when im in there because he pulls them in for me to hellfire ring then curse bite the SHIT out of them lol
Ive been going hard in neverwinter the last month after a multi year break, looking forward to content, i REALLY miss loot drops and leveling. Im waiting for the game to be good again, am i the fool?
Hmm, the main reason is because both paths deal damage, and so you would just switch to whatever path is better. So I didn't see the need to rank the other path, when it is just going to rank lower. However they have recently improved, particularly the rogue whisperknife, and are working on Ranger Warden. So in my next ranking, I will most likely show how they compare
@@Aragon- I believe them. this game's been broken since module 6 from what I see. I quit years ago since the devs just didnt know what they were doing lol
well good job. BUT totally disagree about brad healer - it is just TOP healer currently for sure: heals/buffs/debuffs and also shields, which are bigger than pally (from encounter). And it is definitely not at the same lvl as cleric :D also disagree about warlock dps - it also sould be in tier with ranger in terms of its gameplay/correct rotation: its pretty hard to make really good dps on this class
@aragon you really do nut understand how a RANGER makes damage do you WARDEN Is way better for AoE then Hunter ever will be... STAY in RANGED OR MELEE use AoE AT WILLS for max damage with boosts from ENCOUNTERS useing RAPID For SINGLE TARGETS you will rock the PAINGIVER
aoe at wills don't necassarily make warden better than hunter. that's like saying whisperknife is better than assassin in there since they have shuriken toss. warden simply has too many flaws to keep up with hunter. plus this trial isn't solely aoe, there is a large focus on bursting down lieutenants and captain.
Hey aaragon I know it's not about that video. But do you know if new 4 slot mount is worth investing in? Does he get any good insignia Bonuses for DPS if you upgrade it? Cheers
Thank you very much! I got a lot left over mount tokens and my only mythic insignia is illuminated so I think he's gonna be a perfect in slot you are my saviour
I'm glad I stopped playing cleric completely... The class has both bad support (good heal, but no mitigation compared to both other healers) and requires to be very good at mechanics to be able to compete damage-wise. I also like tanking better, but that's another topic. Warlock looks much more interesting and fun to play compared to a cleric. I'm happy with my barbarian tank, even before the changes it was fun, now it's still fun but also viable
what happened? 😮 when i played the game some years ago devouted cleric as one of the original classes where really good just using astral shield and divine armor to grand a really good shield and have had another spells to reduce allies damage and increase damage on enemies.
Not even true. I thought you said you used enforced threat? Do you not know how it works? If you can't manage AoE threat, esp. as a fighter of all classes, stop tanking because you are bad.@@Aragon-
You didn't do Paladin dps side. ??. So they have nerfed melee, buffed ranged. Bottlenecking you to play what they want you to play. Ranged. Why cant they develop a tank, with a good dps for solo play/campaign. Its like they only know how to develop one paragon side at a time.YOUR THE DEVOLOPER FOR GOODNESS SAKE GAWWWD.
I play solo majority of the time. So I’m trying to find a solo character I can run most of the content but also don’t have worry once I join a party to run dungeons.
@@Aragon- , LOL , why not make the logical adjustments early on. Melee does more damage but takes greater risks. Ranged , a little less damage but are safer further away from danger. The path they chosen only leads to constant meddling with updates back and forth and we as player have to constantly change our focus depending on meta for each module.
@@Aragon- i hope so. Its painful to see melee in these new dungeons get kicked and people asking only for CW in PE for the end game when they already have 1 or 2 in the group😅
Bard is clearly top tier because of the buff he provide, 2 pally is not as good as a paly and a bard combo and no other combo beat that one. Bard is also the better one for melt group. The fact that you even consider the cleric in the same tier as the bard make me believe you have not played much of it. In the new trial I keep giving the full 15% dr/dmg + the debuff armor + grace, vistani while also shielding people with bigger shield than pally (other than its single target) because there is so much add you can shield everything so easily. The auto heal at 50% also pair very well with the pally. I can see why paly is first but there is absolutely no way why the cleric is even in the same tier than the bard lol not even close to it and even the warlock. They both should be dropped one and bard moved up once if you rate it on that content.
Look at it like this. If you need to solo heal the trial, what would it be easier on? Bard and Cleric are okay. Neither will have an easy time at it. Bard has buffs, but harder to play, needing to learn songs etc. Cleric is easier but you need to be fast with bastion to save ppl
combine the level of difficulty to maintain all buffs and the amount of buttons to press to cast heals versus other healers, you have a much more challenging time doing your role, versus other healers!
@Aragon- it is challenging need to maintain 2-3, 4 if you're pushing it. Even at that it's not hard to maintain the effects of Curtain Call, especially in this dungeon, with the multiple ways to gain AP. there's other factors like your teammates ability to not stand in the red, you can still do your job efficiently.
It's very justified because it can't shield the tank whenever it pleases. The paladin and the warlock can repeatedly shield the tank in a very short period of time. For example when they're needed to apply a shield for the stun and apply a refreshed shield for the tankbuster. You can't make queues without a paladin, or at least a Hellpact warlock that can shield the tank but you can make queues without a minstrel. The warlock has the added benefit that it can be a healer or a shielder depending on who it is partenered with. So yes, I would say the two should be ranked above the bard for this module/trial alone.
@@pudelinocacalat2951I've done Mdom and ADOM with 2 Bards.. we've completed without a paladin.. Obviously having a paladin makes it easier, but that still doesn't cancel the fact that the Bard can still out perform when done correctly. You should watch a previous stream I even solo heal ADOM, Gus had a bard for his 6 man Moondancer run. I'm convinced you see 1 person (aragon) say or do 1 think on a PREVIEW video, and expect that to be the one and only way to play the trial when that's not the case. It's very possible, and extremely easy. I'm surprised with all his keybinds he can't find a simple way to play the bard and make it efficient.
you youngsters. I remember when lifesteal was a thing when warlock was introduced. then tiamat instance hopping, Pirate king rings breaking up guilds, bubble palys, the sigil of infinite dailies, and module 6. boy was that one a doozey...😂 but alas, I moved on from neverwinter like most of my guild in mod 6. I just felt bad for the unsuspecting 1st timer and the ones who stayed thinking it would get better...
33:30 min per dire che alla fine bisogna giocare solo il mago. Se curasse e tankasse andremmo con 10 maghi 😂. Comunque questa mod credo sia ai livelli di cok. Orribile.
I can clearly see it considering the cleric and the bard are on the same tier lol Bard as auto heal + way more buff and can also shield very often in the new trial@@Aragon-
I agree Vanguard is not the easyest to play. But most squshy its not. Those extra stats equal 25% also dig in regenerate shield. With the right build and player survive its best at. And it really shines in solo bosses. All tanks are good. But squshy its not.
You notice it when you are using maxed build and you can get all the stats high already. Fighter doesn't have anything extra, like paladin with 30% damage resist daily and Barbarian with 35% HP daily. Fighter only has 20% HP daily. This is what I mean. You feel squishier when having to take massive tankbusters.
@Aragon- lol you can build a Max fighter but apparently you can't play one. Pally main but it's obvious the pally tank is the most squishy tank you see it really when you Max all three and run them in the identical group only changing your tank. Pally has great auras for buffs and many reasons I prefer but dig in is simply easier and more effective than having to trigger and then guard to avoid stun and you have maintain both Stam and divinity so as for tanks I disagree rest is reasonable. I rate barb as highest potentially but not in my personal performance yet with exception to mtos 1st boss come and get it
@@BirdsRntReal I solo tanked mdwp last mod. All alone. Taking it directly. Whitout dig in and those extra stats i can use earth examble and other things to focus on. I get more survive. I really doubt my pala in that mod whould even be close taking all that damage solo. Its also a delay in on off tab. If anyone else could do it. Maybe barb. With solo healing build. Thats a maybe tho. Then again it depends on what criteria we are judging. Best shield. Vanguard by far. Best rotational barb. That berserk immunity is awesome. Best versatile paladin. About squishy, thats one thing Vanguard is not known for. Ask end game Vanguards if they think they are squishy. I like pala much. But in my honest opinion its maybe the most squishy in terms of overall tanking. Barb had aggro problems. But thats fixed. I actually want palla tank to get a little buff. Honestly
@Jan.Martin.Brenden I think the pally is fine bc I run everything deathless on pally generally but most pallys are struggling bc new trial requires the big guard and well anyone saying otherwise is dumb, the pally big guard requires two buttons instead of one and two resources to conserve while facing the appropriate direction. I do fine I have 10,000 hours pally tanking but people watching aragon gonna say hmmm he dumb n doesnt play any tanks. He does but come on no one I've ever met thought his videos were more than click bait
@@Aragon- Yea but they never do that do they lol. Seriously, I see people asking for things to be nerfed on classes they don't play because it's supposedly 'too easy' and they get jealous over nothing, the last time was the DC healing word heal by the Warlocks who wanted to be the best healers by nerfing the DC. That's just what they tend to do, they see one class who appears to be easier to play or do more damage etc than them (the fact they may be good at playing and building a build doesn't matter, they don't even think about that) and their first reaction is 'nerf it please!!! wahhhhhh!!!!' I totally agree with u, it should have been the other way for years, don't nerf it, bring other things up to match.
So really my comment was just that when the CW was put up the top on 'easy' with a spotlight on it people are going to now ask for it to be nerfed because 'it's not fair' and they want the CW to be the same difficulty or whatnot that their preferred class is. That's just how many of their minds work.
@@lees_boxI am not calling for nerfing wiz :) nevertheless I will tell that wiz is sticking out way above the water level. And I am playing one as well so .. No nerfing, give more unique abilities and balance across classes.
You say Rogue is melee, but Whisperknife is missile, and so are several Assassin powers. And with Whisperknife you can use Vengeance's Pursuit to teleport into melee range, Stealth and use Lashing Blade or a Daily, and then roll backwards out of the red. {:o:O:}
if you're trying to say rogue is ranged, it really isn't in any viable way, which is all that matters. the only semblance of non-melee is potb, but even that's still mid-ranged. but that's one of the factors that makes it our lifeline for sure. whisperknife as a whole doesn't work in moondancer, it's only viable for normal dungeon aoe. and the only ranged things about that are blitz, which is great, and... at wills, which are more or less negligible damage with how weak they are compared to the rest of the kit.
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 again, only one power. everything else is melee. that does not make it a ranged class of any sort. also it's only 30' radius max.
@@arashi302 *_"again, only one power."_* What is? I do not think you have the first idea about any of the Whisperknife's capabilities at all, either ranged or AoE. And I think that this is because ever since the WK stopped being the Perma-Stealth King of PvP in mod 5 or 6 or so, everyone's been saying that the WK is shyte and have never played it. {:o:O:}
I can't take that trials group seriously, with the balloons vanity thing out. So childish and stupid, with all the adds i would think a warden would do well.
Warlock is harder to play especially with the animation cancelling. The ranking isn't right in my opinion. And even with ani cancelling, if u play against a well skilled cw, hr or tr, there is no chance to be number 1 dps as a warlock.
Melee is pronounced MELL-AY! Not MEELEY! Meeley are WORMS! How many times? It's so annoying to listen to! 🤪 It's like someone insisting on calling Dublin Dew-bline or something! Or London Lone-Dowen. {:o:O:}
You could always do us all a favour and piss off, seems like you ever do is moan about this guys content. Where's ya mates gone when you were all slating this guy in the comments about giving false information........melt
You know how many ppl had to start new characters because of the idiots following your advice dogmatically because no one invites Rogues or anything besides wiz to a group for xDOM? Even if theyre extremely good rogues that can get top 1 or 2 paingiver consistently? You gotta understand the power you have in this community and use it more responsibly.
I like how you explain everything it’s very organized and helps me decided what I like and what I want thank you
good to hear, thank you :)
Still waiting for paladin dps. Baldurs gate 3 reminded me how satisfying divine smites are
In fact, you can maintain the effect of your daily power with the bard healer almost all the time. In combat with a lot of ads, you can just recharge your action point in 5 sec with the last at-will and then spam your daily
At this point it feels like wizard is the devs favorite child.
The Blademaster and Dreadnought revamp can't come any sonner. Our time will come, it will come (copium)
Well Warlock and Wizard are soo boring to play i rather play low dps Barb and have fun
Wizard was so bad previous mods it was nearly unusable
I remember a time in the game that's about all you saw running around PE was barbarians..they were THE class to play.
The game is moving in totally wrong direction. Everything is focused on ranged dps. In a normal environment melee units should do more damage since they also take greater risks and put themselves in danger more often and ranged units do a little less damage but are generally safer further away from danger and compensating by dying less often. This game chose to go in opposite direction.
In balanced MMOs, I've always viewed melee DPS (which I always play, full disclosure there) as the bass and percussion sections of a piece of music. The ranged DPS bring the rest: the crescendos, the highs (bursts), the lows and rests (cooldowns between bursts). But well played melee is there to keep that constant damage going at all times. The ranged makes the rest of it happen. Just my view :)
I heard they are nerfing rogue on top of that lol lol lol
@scottsmith1652 so you're saying that melee classes should do sustained D.P.S. and ranged classes should do burst with some cooldowns? Melee usually has to move more due to time spent going towards enemies and changing positions because of A.O.E. damage. Which is a D.P.S. loss. Ranged should do less damage than melee, but brimg more C.C. to the table.
@@insertname9736 I hear what you're saying! I haven't played NW very long. My raiding experience comes from WoW. And that is from BC and Wrath. I played mostly furry warrior, rogue and then feral druid in ICC during Wrath. I know games have turned to favor ranged as times have changed. I just recall the overall damage meters would reflect myself and my other melee buddy as top damage because our uptimes were solid. The ranged had a move a lot more or take of other duties at times. It seems like the tables have turned :)
well I'm just coming back to the game , again, and I'm so lost it's been so long I decided to start fresh with a wizard I'm only level 7 but I feel like a melee class because everything is all up in my face all the time except when I can use my daily then I get to watch everything get sucked into the void. I have almost no crowd control at all..I'm just standing there getting wailed on.
New trial has already attracted so much attention from elitists that it's not even fun. They treat you like you are invisible unless you are ranged dps (wizzard) or pally tank/healer. It also doesn't help that the new trial is really unfriendly towards melee dps and that Agent is one of the worst enemy designs since it existing counters 50% of the classes.
I actually love the Cleric class, probably my favourite. It’s hard to play and get the rotation right, but that is what I like about it: you have to give things a bit of thought, and from that, you are rewarded. Cleric spells hit HARD if you can do your Prophecy of Doom and artefact, get combat advantage, and then smack bosses with single-target abilities. You can top the metres with an Arbiter Cleric with practise. I think they’re underrated 😎
I'm actually thinking about starting this game soon and love cleric classes. So is there some good powers I should take?
The bard healer is significantly stronger than sorcerer. And is also the equal of the cleric. The sorcerer is the poorest of the healers mentioned. If you want a healer who will let you finish the content faster, the best is definitely the Bard
80% of my guild members playing wizards xD
Ever since MTOS every content is good for ranged DPS :) mellee is getting shit on nothing else everything else is conjecture
Actually it is all about either CC when you group and stun your enemies or super-high outburst of damage for boss fights after arties or when imobizlized (cocoons etc). Barbie has an encouter that supposedly pulls enemies but on tank :D
@@tlomotowski you can’t cc or stun bosses in trials my comment is specific to master trials
@@itsmohdiii3689 in moondancer you have to cover a lot of adds , mdwp you have to control adds (barlor, succubs, mane ...) and in majority you go with DPS checks like cocoons or last shield in mdwp. With DPS check melee is doing OK IMO.
Ok so. Keeping this idea of easiest to hardest in mind Atleast with the tanks. I’d like to share my opinion. And am quite open for others to speak there’s . Putting them all in a vacuum and then applying there places I’ll got from easiest to hardest.
1.) Fighter. It isn’t a competition in terms of simplicity and application this class has in its arsenal. As many before has stated. Squishy the fighter is simply not. But please understand where Aragon is coming from when I explain the other tanks. The fighter imo has it all in the simplest ways which only gets better as you learn to cancel knights challenge early. Having the most consistent stamina sustain and potentially the highest stamina sustain out of all the tanks and have access to 20% Dr from Steve warrior and a 20% health increase daily? Is honestly far greater than one would think. Stamina is our health bar. And if we are recovering that with literally every action we do is just 🎉. Not to mention (Atleast for my build) 8% more Dr from when I’m not blocking (Counts and still mitigates if your guard is broken but only when completely empty aka tank busters that actually bust your shield) This tank is simply the easiest and well suited for new comers and experts alike. However what I believe Aragon is trying to say about this class being squishy is that in terms of just constantly mitigating damage in all situations including mobile mobbing. The fighter falls short and for moondancer tank buster. It can be a little awkward as unlike pally. You can’t divide the damage leading up to the buster. You are prone to getting stunned if you can’t anticipate correctly. Lastly Crit avoidance being the fighters forte is just awesome. Getting a free 10% for blocking and another 15% awareness using dig in and oonga boonga levels of aggro using retaliate, and buffing the teams damage with your main hard taunt? No gimmick required? New comers I encourage. Try this class.
Pally: let’s be honest. The new feat for the damaging aggro area is honestly nutty. This is the only tank where I can comfortably drop aggro ring and pick another for stats or buffs. This tank is deceptively challenging and at the same time easy. Pally absolutely dominates mobbing situations and it’s not even a contest. The potential survivability is honestly frightening. As you can get a true mitigation of 50% on top of your stats! Like what? 😂. 80+% if you are using Tiamats and those arm pieces that give Dr for getting hit. Tank busters against a pally is honestly the only thing that can truly threaten to break a fully self buffed pally shield. Otherwise you are chilling. All the while your mechanic is drawing so much aggro. You are the only tank who can afford to just slot in survivability encounters if you wanted to and still tank like a boss. Binding oath will refill your stamina over the course of its duration in bursts of about 1/3rd of your stamina bar 4 times. Not to mention you have RANGED hard taunts (yes plural) aoe aggro at will you truly are suited for every possible situation….the draw back? Divinity. This secondary resource is as good as you make it. And that on its own is based on your stats, skill and knowledge. For newer players it’s easy to leave the mechanic on and just wail at things. But the drain is quite silly albeit reasonably some of your better aggro tools cost divinity. And the primary one we would use “Smite” costs divinity and a class feature slot to even make it a hard taunt. If balancing divinity was out of the question. This would be the easiest tank no doubt about it. Way too many benefits for those who can master the divinity. And honestly truly crushing for those who can’t. Lastly the forte being deflect severity is honestly not all that bad. Deflect being arguably the most misunderstood (or flat ignored) stat in the game by all but the most curious of people is honestly quite ridiculous. Yes. Some if not all tank busters ignore deflect… so? I get it the problem is having to level both it and its severity. But as a pally? This plays into its absurd survivability it’s the only tank where I was seeing 3 digit numbers in Moondancer and that was without abilities aside from the mechanic. For mobbing and you have capped the previous three? Unless you are strictly doing trials. Do yourself a favor on all of your tanks. Try it. Yes if capped it’s 90% chance to reduce the hit by 90% of the damage after all mitigations were applied. So that means 10% of the time you’ll take full damage…. So? What is the gamble? Please explain to me?
3.) Barbarian. Tbh I wanted to put pally and Barb as a tie. But hey this is my opinion and you super welcome to discuss your own! So let’s start out by saying that remember I said fighter has POTENTIALLY the highest stamina sustain? Yeah this class is simply the current holder of highest stamina sustain in the game. With the paragon feat the restores your stamina upon unstoppable ending, invigorate, and sure strike buffed by said unstoppable and what I consider average stamina regen of 65%? The boss has to be very aggressive to beat down your stamina for sure strike to not be considered more than enough during unstoppable. And again..Unstoppable makes you well…unstoppable if you play this right. Barbs have a rhythm imo for each dungeon and each mob. That so long as you do your part. Stamina is hardly ever gone beyond your control. Most of the time it’s by choice. ( good or bad). Barbarians has arguably the most satisfying gameplay out of all the tanks as nothing will ever make you back down if you are well informed in the content you are playing in. Barbarians also has my most favorite taunt in the game as it groups up enemies in a nice clump. It’s no singularity but everyone will capitalize on it like one. The barbarian also brings some unique buffs to the team. Increasing the teams max Hp by 15% making those lovable blue bubbles everyone loves to hide behind that much better if it’s a full shield, 5% physical damage and hopefully once it’s patched. 20% movement speed! Barbarians are the only tank that doesn’t have a % Damage mitigation skill. But instead increases their health to massive amounts. In their kit alone they can increase their HP by 60%. And another 20% from those dragon boots! Making your Hp go even further beyond! Which in turn makes your stamina health pool even more ridiculous. Blocking 2mil and having a bit stamina to spare is no longer a dream you didn’t know you had. Aggro on this class is honestly in my opinion where i might get a little flack. So for general content. Threatening presence + Frustrating slash proc + challengers+ Rage and rally is more than enough. I don’t even use takedown. But for higher content. Is when you might have to consider primal fury. This is where it gets weird. This ability’s magnitude can go up 600! With increased threat modifiers. So its effective damage is honestly dumb. But….it scales with stamina loss….and that to me is just..weird. I’m not saying this isn’t impossible to manage. Far from it. It’s because of the stamina situation utilizing this is some of if not the most easiest big aggro button in the game. But it requires your rage. Aka you 60% health block. And those very dungeons in which you’d consider using this hurt quite a bit unless you’re all nice and capped. But mastering this particular dance. Your health is still very safe with all the options you have. And the fact your forte is awareness’ 😃. Barbarians to me is a tank that can comfortably handle both aoe and single target situations. But not exceeding pally in aoe, nor fighter in single. But what it truly excels in is keeping control. Unstoppable being able to break away control effects on you is just 🤤. Also gain free critical avoidance while blocking during unstoppable is very welcome here. As crit avoidance is very important.
Thank you all for reading my opinion. I hope to hear yours! With all these new changes I feel like the title for best tank is anyone’s guess. But in terms of easiest? I say fighter
I wanted to add one more thing here. Ahem…. YOU DO NOT NEED A PALLY BUBBLE TO SURVIVE. Each tank innately has the tools to comfortably tank all busters in their kit. 20% mitigations + Health increase daily is more than enough to protect you. And mind you pally has the luxury of just Quatering said busters and Barbie’s do it with not Mitigation abilities. Just health buffs. I encourage you to give story teller bards a chance. Bards are walking Arti calls I tell you!! 🤭😂
As always. Excellent work.
The thing I did on a Ranger and admittedly, I never did any of the hard trials, but the thing I did is, I would use my encounters on the ranged, and then I would use that I would stand switch and use that dash to get up close, mainly the shit out of them, then stand switch again and use theencounter power to back away, shooting and rinse and repeat back-and-forth that way. I never was standing near them that long and I would use up my encounters on one then switch to the other and then back-and-forth.
for fighter always commander's strike so you can get the most of your daily power, it's one of the strongest bursts of damage
Ideally you have someone else in the group who can apply that physical damage debuff, a rogue or Barbarian can. But yeah, if you don't, then you may be better with commanders at least for the Arti call
Yoohooooooo!
Feels good to chose barbarian after this vid hahaha
Hope to get into cool content soon, just reached lv 20 and i'll learn some sentinel gameplays :3
Edit: Thanks for all the effort and content u create, dude, u're a god! Alot of content would be missing on youtube and the rest of the internet without you bro
Thank you for your kind words and feedback :D
God? The dude who make videos on classes he dont play for it to get nerf?
Yet his main class has an broken encounter power and never made a video on it to get it fixed
We dont call that a "god"
@@topshotterz4eva speak for yourself, buddy, i'm a new commer to the game and ppl like me appreciate any kind of content that keeps the game goong and helps ppl
@@MVeniality welcome to the game :)
@@MVeniality Dont mind Potatoes like this, typical Haters, Do nothing themselves and have imbecilic and contradictory comebacks for attention that make themselves look like rainbow cupcakes.
Great video, thanks!
Could you do a current leveling class tier list?
I wished the ranger had a really good dayle aoe like the sniper in this New trial... i love thath
The Bard minstrel does have defensive boosts/offensive boosts. Use the gambler feat instead of storyteller. You get the 2 extra songs that make a huge difference and should move the bard to the easy slot.
Ranger is in not ok shape as you have to play in melee range. It’s in the name “range” needs the buff to be in ok shape
A tier list video... this should be entertaining 😁
Fighter DPS definitely needs a lot of work.
Single target is pretty good but the AOE powers are too small, too slow, and too weak. AOE Daily power is just rubbish too.
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i have complained before about the warlock dps but damn i dedicate to primarily AOE (hell fire ring, fiery bolt, and curse bite) and holy shit now people look for me so i can join their Q lol
It seems clear that the devs haven't learned anything and it's a huge part of why I quit the game (not the only reason, the constant reworks were getting tiresome also to the point the game started feeling like a chore instead of being fun, after working a long day the last thing you want to do is feel like your going to another job lol) I'm sure I'm not the only one who just got fed up and then the melee class was becoming obsolete in end game, I enjoy playing melee (Rogue was my main) but I couldn't get into new end game trials unless they were friends and even then people got frustrated in the new content because you were the weakest link, everyone wanted wizard DPS, the last time we were viable was VOS. A well designed game should not cater to one class only but be balanced so that every class can perform somewhat equally and be viable. Everyone said create a wizard, but I didn't want to play a class that I didn't enjoy. I think I heard the game was laying off devs and rumor that it could shut down eventually & permanently, every one of us who quit the game and stopped investing in the game by purchasing VIP and occasional ZEN store purchases hurts their revenue & bottom line, it's not good business practice to drive away your customers and over the years that's exactly what they've been doing, they're a victim of their own demise. I was thinking about coming back to the game but after this video & seeing nothing has changed I won't. Thanks Aragorn, I haven't seen your vids in a while being I don't play anymore, keep up the good work you do for the community, you seem to care more about this game than the Devs do!
I have been playing a lot of DDO lately after giving it a real go and wanted to get into this game the same way. Your guides and lists are helpful.
I bought enough slots to make alts of every class and I will mostly solo due to time constraints in daily life.
I would assume that all the dps paragons for those classes that have alternative choices (tank or healer) is the way to go, but what about the classes that only have dps choices? Are the paragons you pointed out still viable as a solo character or should I go the other path? Oh and I know it's not a big deal to some people, but the word Melee (spells ME-Lee)
is actually pronounced May-LAY. That's the correct pronunciation.
It's a little nuance, but its still matters and it's less of TOE-MAT-TOE or TOM-AUT-TOE. It's actually just May lay.
Take care.
For wizard and ranger, go with the paragon I suggested. You will unlock it at level 11. For Rogue, well they are getting a bunch of changes and we shall see. I'll cover it in videos
Came for the comments;)
Ahahaha, of course xD
I find when trying to animation cancel on Warlock, I actually cancel the Encounter. Most of them are so slow and spongey to use.
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Funny how wizard gets to instantly cast their encounters
worlock has so manny problems with animations, that I wish they just nuked it's animation canceling completly, and rebalanced it.
depending on my ping, i can go from perfect animation canceling, to impossible.
And it's close to nothing to do with my internet, it's all about how much their servers want to be shit that day...
@@gampie13 I can say that warlock shouldn't be that high on the list when you look at regular DPS rankings and the way canceling is used to (supposedly) get 25% damage output. AoE just looks cool, but it is too weak, ripping out the curse cannot be impacted by canceling or high regen. I've seen only few that were aspiring to have top tier and even they had significantly less damage than wizards. I gladly would give up the canceling for improved timing and mechanics on warlock hellbringer.
Fighter suck so badly at mechanics because of his shift ability :(
yup
For a soul weaver, did you say fey path? I wanna make sure I heard you correctly for Heal Over Time path for the soul weaver.
yes!
Feypact for heal overtime and Hellpact for shields
i wished the warlock dps had an attack to pull enemies together, would help alot with croud control.. although for aoe its probably still pretty decent compared to other dps classes..
btw does anybody know where to get those balloons seen at 6:44, or where they have been obtainable? drives me crazy everytime i see them cause i cant find anything about them ^^
I think its from the summer festival
@@RoyShamama-fn1hz thanks
yup balloons from summer festival
i agree i usually just run with the minotaur when im in there because he pulls them in for me to hellfire ring then curse bite the SHIT out of them lol
Simple solution - Rework Gates of Hell daily to be pull instead of a knockdown
Ive been going hard in neverwinter the last month after a multi year break, looking forward to content, i REALLY miss loot drops and leveling. Im waiting for the game to be good again, am i the fool?
I don't understand why you only list the damage classes once. The ranger has two damage paths, just like the mage and rogue
Hmm, the main reason is because both paths deal damage, and so you would just switch to whatever path is better. So I didn't see the need to rank the other path, when it is just going to rank lower. However they have recently improved, particularly the rogue whisperknife, and are working on Ranger Warden. So in my next ranking, I will most likely show how they compare
Which Dps class would say is the most powerful??
Now that fighter DPS is changed, how would it rank?
still harder to play than most classes
My Arcanist is always on the damage board, even when her IL is 5-6k lower than all the other DPS.
on what damage boards? random queues?
@@Aragon- on adom. Depending who's running I can be in the top 3 with my 79k Arcanist, as one of the lower IL toons. That includes Thaums.
@@Aragon- I believe them. this game's been broken since module 6 from what I see. I quit years ago since the devs just didnt know what they were doing lol
well good job.
BUT totally disagree about brad healer - it is just TOP healer currently for sure: heals/buffs/debuffs and also shields, which are bigger than pally (from encounter). And it is definitely not at the same lvl as cleric :D
also disagree about warlock dps - it also sould be in tier with ranger in terms of its gameplay/correct rotation: its pretty hard to make really good dps on this class
@aragon you really do nut understand how a RANGER makes damage do you
WARDEN Is way better for AoE then Hunter ever will be...
STAY in RANGED OR MELEE use AoE AT WILLS for max damage with boosts from ENCOUNTERS useing RAPID For SINGLE TARGETS you will rock the PAINGIVER
Hey there. Any chance you play on PS4? Would be great to run with you and see the Warden damage.
aoe at wills don't necassarily make warden better than hunter. that's like saying whisperknife is better than assassin in there since they have shuriken toss. warden simply has too many flaws to keep up with hunter. plus this trial isn't solely aoe, there is a large focus on bursting down lieutenants and captain.
Yeah but warden is just too broken to be considered
Forget aoe. I go single target on my ranger and got second on the leader board. Let the wizards go for the junk ads
Great video ty (^^)
More interested if the new mount is worth it.
This don’t happen much when I look something up and a new video about it is up
Hey aaragon I know it's not about that video. But do you know if new 4 slot mount is worth investing in? Does he get any good insignia Bonuses for DPS if you upgrade it? Cheers
Tacticians, and Warlords motivation, yes two very good 4-slot bonuses. But don't spend loads of AD just to get them
Thank you very much! I got a lot left over mount tokens and my only mythic insignia is illuminated so I think he's gonna be a perfect in slot you are my saviour
I'm glad I stopped playing cleric completely... The class has both bad support (good heal, but no mitigation compared to both other healers) and requires to be very good at mechanics to be able to compete damage-wise. I also like tanking better, but that's another topic. Warlock looks much more interesting and fun to play compared to a cleric. I'm happy with my barbarian tank, even before the changes it was fun, now it's still fun but also viable
Yep Cleric is one of my mains, RIP…
I have a wizard and a warlock and wizard is much more fun/satisfying
what happened? 😮 when i played the game some years ago devouted cleric as one of the original classes where really good just using astral shield and divine armor to grand a really good shield and have had another spells to reduce allies damage and increase damage on enemies.
What are the Wings that you have on the Arbiter Cleric?
Exclusive fashion from like 3 years ago
Still doesn't understand the fighter tank. Laff.
Fighter tank aoe threat sucks. People will easily die cause you don't have threat on all the enemies.
Not even true. I thought you said you used enforced threat? Do you not know how it works? If you can't manage AoE threat, esp. as a fighter of all classes, stop tanking because you are bad.@@Aragon-
Threat ring and enforced threat
Im gonna start to play tomorrow , which class do u recomend
Rogue for dps, Paladin for tank and heal
You didn't do Paladin dps side. ??.
So they have nerfed melee, buffed ranged. Bottlenecking you to play what they want you to play. Ranged.
Why cant they develop a tank, with a good dps for solo play/campaign. Its like they only know how to develop one paragon side at a time.YOUR THE DEVOLOPER FOR GOODNESS SAKE GAWWWD.
Paladin does not have a dps path...
I play solo majority of the time. So I’m trying to find a solo character I can run most of the content but also don’t have worry once I join a party to run dungeons.
Warlock
@@wiz369 still the same?
Rangedwinter... P2Winter...Undercarpetwinter...Bugwinter...
Seems cryptic wants to weed out all melee 😒 years of range friendly everything.
They said with m28 they would look at balancing melee
But pre mod 15, melee the king of dps due to CA only apply around target.. hence GWF, TR and fighter dominate.
@@Aragon- , LOL , why not make the logical adjustments early on. Melee does more damage but takes greater risks. Ranged , a little less damage but are safer further away from danger. The path they chosen only leads to constant meddling with updates back and forth and we as player have to constantly change our focus depending on meta for each module.
@@Aragon- i hope so. Its painful to see melee in these new dungeons get kicked and people asking only for CW in PE for the end game when they already have 1 or 2 in the group😅
@@hermanspaerman3490 they basically make you have to have alternates 😅
Bard is clearly top tier because of the buff he provide, 2 pally is not as good as a paly and a bard combo and no other combo beat that one. Bard is also the better one for melt group. The fact that you even consider the cleric in the same tier as the bard make me believe you have not played much of it. In the new trial I keep giving the full 15% dr/dmg + the debuff armor + grace, vistani while also shielding people with bigger shield than pally (other than its single target) because there is so much add you can shield everything so easily. The auto heal at 50% also pair very well with the pally.
I can see why paly is first but there is absolutely no way why the cleric is even in the same tier than the bard lol not even close to it and even the warlock. They both should be dropped one and bard moved up once if you rate it on that content.
Look at it like this. If you need to solo heal the trial, what would it be easier on? Bard and Cleric are okay. Neither will have an easy time at it. Bard has buffs, but harder to play, needing to learn songs etc. Cleric is easier but you need to be fast with bastion to save ppl
@@Aragon- Can the Paladin solo heal the trial?
imagine putting bard healer as "okay" it's clear you don't play bard.
you can't maintain that effect or provide that much security for your team? do you even play the bard?
combine the level of difficulty to maintain all buffs and the amount of buttons to press to cast heals versus other healers, you have a much more challenging time doing your role, versus other healers!
@Aragon- it is challenging need to maintain 2-3, 4 if you're pushing it. Even at that it's not hard to maintain the effects of Curtain Call, especially in this dungeon, with the multiple ways to gain AP. there's other factors like your teammates ability to not stand in the red, you can still do your job efficiently.
It's very justified because it can't shield the tank whenever it pleases. The paladin and the warlock can repeatedly shield the tank in a very short period of time. For example when they're needed to apply a shield for the stun and apply a refreshed shield for the tankbuster.
You can't make queues without a paladin, or at least a Hellpact warlock that can shield the tank but you can make queues without a minstrel. The warlock has the added benefit that it can be a healer or a shielder depending on who it is partenered with. So yes, I would say the two should be ranked above the bard for this module/trial alone.
@@pudelinocacalat2951I've done Mdom and ADOM with 2 Bards.. we've completed without a paladin.. Obviously having a paladin makes it easier, but that still doesn't cancel the fact that the Bard can still out perform when done correctly. You should watch a previous stream I even solo heal ADOM, Gus had a bard for his 6 man Moondancer run.
I'm convinced you see 1 person (aragon) say or do 1 think on a PREVIEW video, and expect that to be the one and only way to play the trial when that's not the case. It's very possible, and extremely easy. I'm surprised with all his keybinds he can't find a simple way to play the bard and make it efficient.
hi can i play neverwinter as casual may not have the time for grinding but something to enjoy what do u recommend and wat class to play for new player
If I choose, it would be rogue and paladin.
I miss the good old days with the buffing gf with fray and what not 😂
Good times!
Having 1 tactition gf with ITF . And 1 gf dps with knight challenge and anvil of doom and griffon wrath.. dush . 4 hit boss 😂 good old day .
you youngsters. I remember when lifesteal was a thing when warlock was introduced. then tiamat instance hopping, Pirate king rings breaking up guilds, bubble palys, the sigil of infinite dailies, and module 6. boy was that one a doozey...😂
but alas, I moved on from neverwinter like most of my guild in mod 6. I just felt bad for the unsuspecting 1st timer and the ones who stayed thinking it would get better...
@@TheWitch297don’t forget Tenebrous!
We need druid for another tank class imo
33:30 min per dire che alla fine bisogna giocare solo il mago.
Se curasse e tankasse andremmo con 10 maghi 😂.
Comunque questa mod credo sia ai livelli di cok. Orribile.
@@giuseppemaltese4130 vedo non ricordi un periodo del gioco dove si andava 4 CW per late game content
I wonder how much of your opinion is biased due to the classes you play most?
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that definetly some influence, yes
I can clearly see it considering the cleric and the bard are on the same tier lol Bard as auto heal + way more buff and can also shield very often in the new trial@@Aragon-
I hope the devs consider Arbiter single target as well as AOE with the upcoming changes. I refuse to play that crazy complicated rotation play style.
playing as bard as always
I agree Vanguard is not the easyest to play. But most squshy its not. Those extra stats equal 25% also dig in regenerate shield. With the right build and player survive its best at. And it really shines in solo bosses. All tanks are good. But squshy its not.
You notice it when you are using maxed build and you can get all the stats high already. Fighter doesn't have anything extra, like paladin with 30% damage resist daily and Barbarian with 35% HP daily. Fighter only has 20% HP daily. This is what I mean. You feel squishier when having to take massive tankbusters.
@Aragon- lol you can build a Max fighter but apparently you can't play one. Pally main but it's obvious the pally tank is the most squishy tank you see it really when you Max all three and run them in the identical group only changing your tank. Pally has great auras for buffs and many reasons I prefer but dig in is simply easier and more effective than having to trigger and then guard to avoid stun and you have maintain both Stam and divinity so as for tanks I disagree rest is reasonable. I rate barb as highest potentially but not in my personal performance yet with exception to mtos 1st boss come and get it
@@BirdsRntReal I solo tanked mdwp last mod. All alone. Taking it directly. Whitout dig in and those extra stats i can use earth examble and other things to focus on. I get more survive. I really doubt my pala in that mod whould even be close taking all that damage solo. Its also a delay in on off tab. If anyone else could do it. Maybe barb. With solo healing build. Thats a maybe tho. Then again it depends on what criteria we are judging. Best shield. Vanguard by far. Best rotational barb. That berserk immunity is awesome. Best versatile paladin. About squishy, thats one thing Vanguard is not known for. Ask end game Vanguards if they think they are squishy. I like pala much. But in my honest opinion its maybe the most squishy in terms of overall tanking. Barb had aggro problems. But thats fixed. I actually want palla tank to get a little buff. Honestly
@Jan.Martin.Brenden I think the pally is fine bc I run everything deathless on pally generally but most pallys are struggling bc new trial requires the big guard and well anyone saying otherwise is dumb, the pally big guard requires two buttons instead of one and two resources to conserve while facing the appropriate direction. I do fine I have 10,000 hours pally tanking but people watching aragon gonna say hmmm he dumb n doesnt play any tanks. He does but come on no one I've ever met thought his videos were more than click bait
Now we're going to get even more people on discord saying it's "not fair" about the CW class and it needs nerfing. thx Aragon.
Can always have the other classes brought up a bit to its level of effort and reward
@@Aragon- Yea but they never do that do they lol. Seriously, I see people asking for things to be nerfed on classes they don't play because it's supposedly 'too easy' and they get jealous over nothing, the last time was the DC healing word heal by the Warlocks who wanted to be the best healers by nerfing the DC. That's just what they tend to do, they see one class who appears to be easier to play or do more damage etc than them (the fact they may be good at playing and building a build doesn't matter, they don't even think about that) and their first reaction is 'nerf it please!!! wahhhhhh!!!!' I totally agree with u, it should have been the other way for years, don't nerf it, bring other things up to match.
So really my comment was just that when the CW was put up the top on 'easy' with a spotlight on it people are going to now ask for it to be nerfed because 'it's not fair' and they want the CW to be the same difficulty or whatnot that their preferred class is. That's just how many of their minds work.
@@lees_boxI am not calling for nerfing wiz :) nevertheless I will tell that wiz is sticking out way above the water level. And I am playing one as well so .. No nerfing, give more unique abilities and balance across classes.
You say Rogue is melee, but Whisperknife is missile, and so are several Assassin powers. And with Whisperknife you can use Vengeance's Pursuit to teleport into melee range, Stealth and use Lashing Blade or a Daily, and then roll backwards out of the red.
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you just can't play whisperknife in any meaningful way at the moment in master content
if you're trying to say rogue is ranged, it really isn't in any viable way, which is all that matters. the only semblance of non-melee is potb, but even that's still mid-ranged. but that's one of the factors that makes it our lifeline for sure. whisperknife as a whole doesn't work in moondancer, it's only viable for normal dungeon aoe. and the only ranged things about that are blitz, which is great, and... at wills, which are more or less negligible damage with how weak they are compared to the rest of the kit.
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Rogue is mid-range, yes. More like 40 to 60 feet, not long-ranged like Wizard and Ranger at 80 feet.
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@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 again, only one power. everything else is melee. that does not make it a ranged class of any sort. also it's only 30' radius max.
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*_"again, only one power."_*
What is?
I do not think you have the first idea about any of the Whisperknife's capabilities at all, either ranged or AoE.
And I think that this is because ever since the WK stopped being the Perma-Stealth King of PvP in mod 5 or 6 or so, everyone's been saying that the WK is shyte and have never played it.
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you never did PALADIN TANK!!!!
I did, I did, at the very end
copy that
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I can't take that trials group seriously, with the balloons vanity thing out. So childish and stupid, with all the adds i would think a warden would do well.
Yeah, that enforced threat never worked lol
it works
@Aragon- correction, the awareness part doesn't work on console
it works on PC, I have tested the damage gain a while back, can check again
Bring back Unreliable 😅
Warlock is harder to play especially with the animation cancelling. The ranking isn't right in my opinion. And even with ani cancelling, if u play against a well skilled cw, hr or tr, there is no chance to be number 1 dps as a warlock.
Melee is pronounced MELL-AY! Not MEELEY! Meeley are WORMS! How many times? It's so annoying to listen to! 🤪
It's like someone insisting on calling Dublin Dew-bline or something! Or London Lone-Dowen.
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sorry xD
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LOL!! 🤣
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You could always do us all a favour and piss off, seems like you ever do is moan about this guys content.
Where's ya mates gone when you were all slating this guy in the comments about giving false information........melt
Cw went form poop to the most want atm
lol
You know how many ppl had to start new characters because of the idiots following your advice dogmatically because no one invites Rogues or anything besides wiz to a group for xDOM? Even if theyre extremely good rogues that can get top 1 or 2 paingiver consistently? You gotta understand the power you have in this community and use it more responsibly.
Should’ve had a brain dead ranking for a specific class🤣
lol lol xD
First!
I would rate hunter as very easy or easy atleast :P