Brexit: a failed project in a failing state? With Danny Dorling
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- Brexit has failed to address any of the substantive challenges of the day. It was not a ‘year zero’ for the many problems facing the United Kingdom and, in fact, reflected decades of public policy failure. That’s the argument of Oxford University professor Danny Dorling in his provocative new report, 'Brexit: a failed project in a failing state', published by the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung and Another Europe Is Possible.
Read the report here:www.anothereurope.org/report-...
In this recording of the report launch, hear from:
💥Danny Dorling, Halford Mackinder Professor in the School of Geography and the Environment at the University of Oxford. He is the author of Inequality and the 1%, third edition published in autumn 2019. His most recent book is Shattered Nation; Inequality and the Geography of A Failing State (Verso Books, 2023). His report, Brexit: a failed project in a failing state? is published by the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung and Another Europe Is Possible.
💥Zoe Williams, Guardian journalist, author of Get It Together: Why We Deserve Better Politics (Hutchinson, 2016) and the co-host of the Another Europe Is Possible podcast.
💥Luke Cooper, Associate Professorial Research Fellow in International Relations at LSE IDEAS, LSE’s in-house foreign policy think tank and director of PeaceRep’s Ukraine programme. He is a co-host of the Another Europe podcast, and presented Between Dream and Tragedy; Europe’s Story After 1989, a six-part podcast documentary on European history. His book Authoritarian Contagion: The Global Threat to Democracy was published by Bristol University Press in 2021.
This event is organised by the Conflict and Civicness Research Group (@LSE_CCRG), part of LSE IDEAS, the foreign policy think tank of the London School of Economics and Political Science. This event is organised in collaboration with the political educational foundation, Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, and Another Europe Is Possible. It reflects the commitment of the LSE CCRG to providing a platform for challenging debate and new ideas.
Very insightful comment: "Britain is not very good at learning from other countries." The British like to do somewhat condescending documentaries on living conditions in poor countries - the BBC loves them. But studies on how other countries are doing better than the UK seem not to be favored much by the Brits.
You mean the British establishment ,They have kept people poor for a thousand years and are in no hurry to change.
And if they ignored living conditions in other countries, you'd say they were indifferent, racist, close minded etc etc
I'm happy to learn from other countries. It's just the condescending Left I'm sick of
Not the Brits.......The BBC is full of lefties. That is why it is condescending
The British public have conveniently short memories. They have forgotten Cameron's ill-advised framing of the referendum, his ineffective leadership as PM, his weak defense of staying in the EU, and his corrupt self-interested lobbying when out of power.
The bevvy helps with forgetting
The British public gave the Establishment the biggest bloody nose ever and you w-nkers blew the chance to get behind it
It's nothing to do with the public it's useless goverment
Shore the public would have rejected Cameron.
@@johnwhitcher4761 I kind of agree with you. But it is the public that elected the government, and the government seems to think re-appointing Cameron will be good for their re-election chances. They certainly think the public has a short memory. I think the government actively misleads the public on many issues, and has a low opinion of the ability of the public to understand the issues.
@@russmarkham2197 Think last election was more about
Keeping corbin & abbott out of power than supporting
The torys. lots of non tory voters lent this gov. Votes
It will not happen again.
The cost of higher ed is a great shame and should be on the state, hurting our society by discouraging the working class majority.
Too much money goes to admin and not resources or teaching. Information itself is cheap.
I need clarifications on the comments at 1:20:37 because they seem... innumerate?
The US does not have large numbers of people in the top and bottom 20%, the US has exactly 20% of its population in these categories, the same number as literally every other country in the world, because that's how quintiles are defined. The median income literally defines the point at which 50% of American households earn more. I think there was some kind of mix up between mean, median, and mode by the speaker, and unfortunately his comments are incomprehensible due to it.
India has a CASTE SYSTEM ..UK has a CLASS SYSTEM... these two nations will not change...
And who could be a better example of the class system than self-confessed Labour toff Dorling?
Didn’t mention the European refugee crisis at 24 mins in 2015/2016. Decided to blame the Daily Mail instead.
Pity that the video doesn't show the speaker and his screen, but only the John Major poster.
Surely, we have to find a way to hold those politicians responsible for what they do, say and how they act. #prison
guillotines
Old generation against New Generation.. Old generation won .... Young generation will suffer 2040..
The old generation who saw what a mess this country had become and feared for their grandchildren
First speaker...very good, I am sure we would have the civil unrest issues that this guy mentions and we remainers would have had no evidence...we have now!
Really? Rickets are back in the UK, according to a recent BBC report, that's right, ox-bow legs.
The UNITED KINGDOMS will be more Unstable as the Small UK struggles to survive..
Excellent question by "Zoe" @ 0h57 minutes!
Finland; Janteloven 'You are to consider yourself no better than anybody else'
In the 21 st Century ... Small Britain will always remain Small , unless Small Britain joins a Big Block , like MEXICO or Russia or Indonesia...
LOL you're really going to convince people with childish spiteful comments
Just cut that quote off after the word "shadows" and you have it about right.
Spot on. Britain will have long shadows for a long time.
very good comment.
Could You not have used a better caption...
1000; years ago Small Britain was a French Vassal state..so Small Britain can again become , another Vassal state , this time of China , instead of USA ..
Get your history right. There was no 'Britain'. A thousand years ago (1023) England had yet to be conquered by the Normans. England was not conquered by France, it was governed by Norman rulers not French ones. Later the Norman Kings of England waged war with France.
@@--legion you are the one that should get your history right. Britain was conquered by William, duke of Normandy, vassal to the king of France. for the next 300 years the kingdom of England was therefore a vassal state to the kingdom of France. at each coronation of a French king, the king of England would come and pledge allegiance. to this day the motto of your monarchy is in French (dieu et mon droit). for some reason it hurts the psyche of the Brits. that seems acceptable to have been conquered as long as it was not by the French. very strange this insecurity.
now when the first commenter said "1000 years ago", it is an obvious figure of speech as precisely it will be 1000 years in 40 years. everyone had understood what he meant.
the one hundred years war was a succession war as the king of England pretended he was king of France, as his mother was the only surviving child of the previous king. and the valois branch of the family (called the king of france nowadays, although both sides called themselves this way) prevailed and the "English" were expelled from the continent. France prevailed in the hundred years war if you dont mind me saying this fact.
@@alainprostbis Politically, Britain did not exist until the Union of 1707. The Normans defeated Harold, King of England. They did not invade Scotland, therefore they did not conquer British Isles.
@@alainprostbis It didn't take long before the English colonialists who settled in America thought themselves qAmerican. So it was with the Norman nobility. Through the generations they became English patriots who warred with France in their territorial claims.
The Normans and the English have one thing in common - a distrust of France. Historically, the English have always distrusted the French - from the mad wars of Louis, to the Revolution and Bonaparte. And for 15000 years we've distrusted European politics beginning with religious interference and ending with EU interference. Not forgetting the devastating European wars that Britain was dragged into. Good riddance to Europe and its squabbles.
@@--legion the normans distrusting the French? have you been drinking? normandy is part of France. the frenchiest part of it ...
the kingdom of England was a vassal state to the kingdom of France. and for 300 years. you may not like it but that is a fact.
Britain is a geographical term. it was not created in the 1700 s. it means the big island (and thus its inhabitant). lets not be ridiculous.
regarding the wars, you were at the heart of many of the wars you are now denouncing. you wanted badly both ww1 and ww2...
and as to the EU, we did not force you to join did we? actually France even vetoed your entry into the union. twice. still waiting for the thank you note from the antieurope Brits on that one...
Good riddance indeed. you may see on youtube and elsewhere that absolutely no-one regrets the UK belonging to this union. no-one ever talks about it on the continent. all this whining comes from your side. cant you behave and control yourself? that is so pityful...
Cameron is placing hope for Small Britain in Chinese hand
British lives in the past..eats in the past .. EXETER COLLEGE lives in the Past , ..Eton lives in the Past ...may be London Stock Exchange lives for the future...as people in the Hong Kong Stock Exchange are trying to hook up Future Africa Stock Exchanges with Hong Kong Exchange and Singapore Exchange...
I like that: "Eats in the past" ! I hope I have a few future meals also.
Where are the British going..??..to Spain..??..to Turkiye..?? .to Canada..??..to Ukraine..??..,the Sub - Continental Indian will take over Australia ... where is Britain ' s Back Up in the last Resort..??. .in Argentina..??.
What on earth are you on about.
Small Britain is Independent isolated by herself... where is she going..to join the USA ..?? ..or to join Australia..?? .. The US MAFIA POLITICIANS will treat Small Britain as a Call Girls Center for the American Consumer Elites
Danny is brilliant in many ways but wrong when he says Labour pushed the torries to the right. I don't understand why he says that. He knows that's an absurd exaggeration of their influence. Labour were themselves dragged right like everyone else by far greater forces than their own volition.
What did you expect from
Grey John
like the French revolution - too soon to tell.. and too late to do anything about it.. we've left .. and the EU probably won't want us back apart from on very strict rules that wouldn't find much support apart from among EU fanatics
Denial - is a type of defense mechanism that involves ignoring the reality of a situation to avoid anxiety. Defense mechanisms are strategies that people use to cope with distressing feelings. In the case of denial, it can involve not acknowledging reality or denying the consequences of that reality.
Sooner or later, whatever may be left of the UK by then will try to return to the EU on the terms the EU will set out just like it signed these so-called trade deals with Japan, Australia and New Zealand while they are actually capitulations and nothing that could anyhow be called a trade deal, at least not from the point of view from the UK.
Like listening to the inbetweeners!
Sunnak brings back Cameron to run the British Foreign policy ..a Wise move .. November 2023
The British public have conveniently short memories. They have forgotten Cameron's cowardly framing of the referendum, his ineffective leadership as PM, his weak defense of staying in the EU, and his corrupt self-interested lobbying when out of power.
Clown
Hardly 100 years .. Small Britain changed from a Superior Naval Power to an Ordinary Small Naval Power. .. this New Era it is all about ROBOT... Production robots which are repeating the same operations millions of time ... the British people still possess brain power , but the British has no future market mass production systems to generate demand strength like the US or the EU ...So British must realize and understand the future of mass marketing and productions by robots ... everything is changing fast .. but the British decided to go back to the Remembetance of an Independent kingdom rather than adapting into a New Changing Era of mass productions and mass military output for future wars which will depend on what Back Up Assets you have in long term weapon productions in replacement armaments and Ammunitions ..... All will depend on your Back Up in production and market sizes and your nation ' s ability to fight a War 3 months War by Computer Intelligence and Sanctuary Reserves of your Home Base.... Russian has Siberia , Chinese has Xin Jiang and Tibet ..US has the Rocky .. what does UK have..?? .No Sanctuary., No Space , No ground to hide ...No Retreat .. Nothing...
The British posses warm beer, canned marmalade and Bird's custard powder. These are the secret weapons.
All that is negated by just one thing that costs nothing........PEACE!
XI president says in San Francisco that the Pacific ocean has opportunity for drive for the two blocks.. Chinese and American , if each side respects each other.. time will tell ....if they will respect each other... time will tell.....deeds will be clearer than words...
If there are no people from the brexit side then it's total propaganda showing only one single point of view
PROPAGANDA
How often does Tuffton Street or GB News have any remainers on? Besides this is book presentation. There is no need to have a panel on.
Russian and Chinese will evolve to a new level of Co - operation ..in Industrial out put . .to improve the Russian systems and to feed the Future Chicken population with a higher quality of produces...
Yawn. Yeah, let's all end up like Germany. Delusi9nal.
Not much interest from the public. Why would people want to obsess about an irreversible event that is just part of history? You would have thought they would be more interested in the stasis and conlflict in the EU itself.
history, of course, is not a static agent, and so future generations of Britons may well choose to pivot back to the EU; and in the shorter term a future labour government is likely to promote an economic rapprochement with the EU, eg alignment of standards etc, so from the perspective of the pro EU side there is a lot to discuss and campaign for, and I’m sure you’ll acknowledge that right? Especially when support for Brexit is sinking like the titanic, something like 30% these days… Brexit, and especially a hard brexit is not an “irreversible event”. The end of the British empire is, on the other hand, definitely irreversible (other than in the minds of some brexiteers…)… the EU is doing pretty well, thanks for the consideration - if anything Brexit has consolidated support for the EU. Stasis and conflict? Perhaps look no further than the UK for that
which are ? If you are naive enough to think 450 million people cannot discuss their conflicts, you could explain what those conflicts are that we don't have ... or ?
@@rodmarker2071 well I appreciate that in the mind of some brexiteers the EU will collapse due to infighting, whereas his majesty’s glorious British empire revival Brexit UK sails off into the sunset in harmony and prosperity. The reality is that support for the EU has consolidated across the union following Brexit, even in countries where euroscepticism is stronger. Many “conflicts” come from political parties that are aligned with the petty nationalism and jingoism now firmly associated with British politics, funny that. Interesting, is it not, that a country such as Ukraine, fighting for its survival, invaded by a country whose tyrant is an enthusiastic Brexit supporter, wants to join the EU? The UK has umpteen crises, only one Briton in three now supports Brexit, one Scot in two understandably wants independence, Westminster is riven by corruption, and the stench of sewage in the country’s waters is a powerful metaphor of Brexit nationalism is it not?
@@rnanerd6505 It's the ideology I don't get. They kind of wish that the EU will have something terrible. They don't seem to think that could also be also awful for us. As if Brexit teflon coated us .
They won , they can't get over it, they have no ideas what to do , other than de-regulate and try to ignore logistic costs. Well moan of course and blame - really good at that.
Nobody ever said the EU was perfect but it is definitely performing much better than the UK, not just economically but also democratically. In the EU, politicians are held to account and even sentenced to go to jail while in the UK, they get promoted to the House of Lords where they can keep ruling the UK as unlected democrats aside an unelected PM and an unelected King. The irony of it!
British is just an American Vassal state ...the Suez is ARAB. ..... India is not British ... Australia South British fly to UK ...and Southern Australia oysters can reach UK via South Africa Ocean ...so British made the Best Decision to stay out of EU ... because Chinese electric cars production is based in Hungary , not Small Britain ..
British better sticks to the Great British Empire ...to be Great Again. .. forget about the The EU which is Napoleon. .... British is USA which is the Master of the British empire ...
BS
Unintentionally, you made a very good point here. The UK could return to the EU and become again one of many who decide how to proceed - or it can become the 51st state of the US and doing whatever they decide the UK has to do. It basically does that anyway but this can still be intensified a lot including privatising the NHS.
American will get rid of Charli if Small Britain joins the American Jewish Empire...no Charlie Rex for USA ..
@@vanveakrin276 As you rightly labeled it, Small Britain will not even be important enough for the USA to worry about who tells them what to do as long as ultimately, the USA has the last say.
You are right. And I can see from your comment that Britain didn't even manage to teach foreigners English very well.
The UK and EU has had no growth for decades because of EU policies.
Consider how much the EU has already declined relative to the United States. Fifteen years ago, according to the IMF, the GDP of the Eurozone was just under $14 trillion, while the U.S. economy was marginally bigger.
Today, the Eurozone’s GDP is just under $15 trillion, a modest rise by any standards. But the U.S.’s GDP has roared ahead to $25 trillion, making its economy 60 per cent bigger than the Eurozone. That’s a lot of relative economic decline for the Euro area in just a decade and a half.
The failure of Europe to keep pace with America has taken its toll on living standards. The average EU country is now poorer per head than every state in America bar Idaho and Mississippi.
The EU is a dismal failure just look at the facts and figures !
Do you honestly believe the US growth figures?they lie al the time, just look at the chronic homelessness and poverty on the rise in the US, you don't see that in the EU.
Congratulations to Nigel Farage for Brexit. Job well done. Mission accomplished.. There's no looking back. God Bless him and his family
May he rot in hell
Some months ago he admitted that Brexit had not worked. As usual others are to be blamed: The Conservatives, The immigrants, Covid, China, etc etc. - and this ridiculous argument: "That is not the Brexit we voted for."
Now he is in the jungle, cowardly, what about making holidays in Syria, Afghanistan, China this would be courageous.
At least, on Sky News, when he was cornered, he admitted: "No one can predict the future."
In many countries Farage would have been charged with treason, he never missed an opportunity to sell our country out and he was helped by the red neck tories, they should be consigned to the dustbin never to be seen again.!!!!
@@russmarkham2197 Tony Benn supported Brexit
@@godehardbrysch7905 And he was right. Because the Tories are the party of neoliberal globalisation and because the Establishment wasn't going to tolerate any change either. Obviously COVID caused huge problems
Mass immigration is the most capitalist, free market policy ever
We say Brexit is a failure but politicians have not had the balls to take advantage of all the changes which Brexit allows. We are to focussed on placating the EU and giving our tax payers money to other countries instead of playing hard ball with the things we now have control of. We need to put Britain first and change our rules and regulations and withdraw from international treaties that are antiquated and do not benefit the British People. Like the EUHR
Rubbish i'm afraid, these Tories have the bottle to lie and cheat in plain sight, so if there was an advantage in Brexit, they would have found it!
They're never going to listen. The British Left are so weak because they can't actually be bothered to organise British people. The trade unions are full of fat wasters who can't be bothered to get out of their offices and actually do proper labour activism. They wanted the EU to save them from neoliberalism only the EU itself embraced that destructive ideology but they can't admit it to themselves
you have utterly failed to understand the consequences of Brexit and also the real reason why the Tory populists wanted Brexit. The UK is now isolated outside any useful trading block without much bargaining power and now has no vote on EU laws but must follow them in order to trade with the EU. The UK has no other choice. It's fiction that any form of Brexit is beneficial. The US government recently terminated even talking to the UK about a trade deal. The UK now has less influence in the world than it did in 1500. Of course the real reasons why the populist Tories love Brexit is to evade taxes, benefit from corrupt public procurement, and take shady money from foreign donors. It's nothing to do with preserving any sovereignty or about any benefit to the country. The benefit is only to the EU and to corrupt UK politicians
How can you "put Britain first" when you can't even feed your population and depend on us in the EU to keep your head above the water.
Stop believing and talking utter bilge and wake up to the real world.
If brexit is a failure what does it say about the EU project they are in worse state than UK
They aren’t.
This is deluded Daily Express nonsense from a brainwashed sheep.
Your wrong.
"You're" and no, I'm not.@@grsafran
It actually helps if you inform yourself a bit more than just reading headlines of tabloids without even trying to find evidence for what you read there. Or can you actually provide any evidence that would support your claim?
Nothing is wrong with taking control of ones own destiny.
yes, and that is exactly why Britain should have stayed in the EU
@@russmarkham2197 And a halfwit comment like yours is exactly why we left.
@@--legion you are the half-wit. My comment is accurate. It is a great irony that the very sovereignty that Brexiteers always bang on about has been greatly damaged by brexit. The UK is now isolated outside any useful trading block without much bargaining power and now has no vote on EU laws but must follow them in order to trade with the EU. THe US government recently terminated even talking to the UK about a trade deal. The UK now has less influence in the world than it did in 1500. Of course the real reasons why the populist Tories love Brexit is to evade taxes, benefit from corrupt public procurement, and take shady money from foreign donors. It's nothing to do with preserving any sovereignty.
@@--legion too bad you joined in the first place. good riddance though.