Buy or Sell: Where I Was Right & Wrong in 2023
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- I've been doing the Buy or Sell series for 2 years now, and although many of these topics will play out over the long term, there have been some that have already been proven right or wrong. These are the results of my 2023 buy or sell predictions.
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Since it wasn't mentioned here, GC's Haunted Mine Drop is now _Crystal Tower_ and has been redesigned to house the drop-tower car in a freight elevator. Insuring something like the 2021 accident can't be repeated.
Whatever they did to it I still screamed and laughed like a little kid on it this summer. Never felt unsafe on it.
Canada's Wonderland is getting a new entrance/front gate in 2024. They have been working on it for about a month & it was confirmed by the park.
I didn't see anything about that so I guess I was wrong about that in the end
@@AirtimeThrills thats one of those caes where its nice to be wrong
Good for them, just wish Kings Island would do something with their entrance.
@@pipepicasso8112 Yeah, I imagine KI will do that when they remove Invertigo. Hopefully they'll add a B&M Surf to interact with the new entrance.
Bro. Chris. THE QUALITY IS IMPECCABLE. I say this to almost all the videos I watch from you, but it's truly great and I hope your proud from each and every video despite numbers. The amount of time and videos combed through for this one video is admirable. Amazing video ideas always and the quality never lacks. Easily favorite coaster youtuber ever. Especially how you single handedly turned the communities opinion of raging bull at my home park from being the #2 worst B&M hyper, to now, where people consider it one of the best😜
Buy or Sell: To compete with Universal's Kids Resort, Six Flags over Texas closes La Vibora in 2025 and opens a Gravity Group family coaster on its site in 2026.
I remember last year you got RMC wildcat wrong that buy or sell comment was by my friend
I really can not wait for 2024, it might be a good coaster year!
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B&M will start making new models after the success of the Surf Coaster!!
To elaborate on this thought: I could see B&M begin offering more retrofit services for older coasters.
It'd be nice to see them offer a spinning model, a flyer that loads/unloads like FLY, or a launched family floorless coaster. But I don't think B&M needs more than that - they don't need to focus on a vertical lift or create their version of the Axis. They need to replicate the floater-airtime experience of their hypers on a smaller scale, but a family floorless coaster that peaks at about 110 feet tall could do this.
I wanna see a B&M spinner so bad!
Very interested to see what 2024 will hold for other predictions
new standout coaster in six flags Great America
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Buy or Sell: Knott’s Berry Farm switches to Zamperla to finish Montezooma’s refurbishment by 2025
Buy or Sell : Frontier City gets a new coaster when the Six Flags and Cedar Fair merge happens
At Hallo-Thriller at Dorney this year, the park president said that she canceled the shuttle wooden coaster when she became president in 2022 becuase she didn't want to get rid of Possessed. Cedar Fair provided funds for a 2024 coaster, and instead of using the shuttle coaster plans, she wanted a dive coaster for the park to compete with Hershey and Six Flags, plus they could keep Possessed. So we can thank COVID and the new park president for Possessed remaining.
Thanks for the insight
Another tidbit she told us was that the dive came down to 3 plans from B&M and one of them was 225 ft tall but much shorter in length. It's wild to think that Dorney was close to having a dive larger than Griffon in it's park.@@AirtimeThrills
I am still waiting for "the merger" to happen before making any conclusions (CF + SF). Universal, Disney, etc... are in different ballparks then six flags and cedar fair. Quite literally with Theme and amusement park differences.
2024 will hopefully go well for the buy or sell episodes! Merry late Christmas!
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Buy or Sell: Six Flags/Cedar Fair will see the success of the S&S Axis Coaster in Saudi Arabia, and add it right away to Kings Island as the reimagined Vortex.
Making it the first of its kind in North America. It’s the perfect name for this type of coaster. And KI will get it’s traditionally “first of it’s kind” coaster. And potentially top 10 ranked coaster.
Just a buy or sell idea: Kennywood will invest in another big coaster idea within the next 5 years, but will either have to a) Make a lot of it fit in the small canyon where thunderbolt and phantom are or b. Take out the sky coaster and work around the steel curtain
Buy or Sell- Universal Orlando will retheme Rip ride rocket to the Minions to fit that area of the park.
KD’s rumored wing coaster looks legit. Hope it is true
You also could’ve been right on the Knott’s one considering the debacle with Montezooma’s overall and it looking like it might be done for good.
Yeah thats still way up in the air
@@AirtimeThrills Would not be shocked if Montezooma is replaced with a Zamperla Double Heart. This would pave the way for Xcelerator to be replaced with a Vekoma multi-launch.
kings dominion wing coaster will be the new best wing coaster over taking thunderbird
Buy or sell: After Mardi Graw hangover at SFGAM (which exceeded my low expectations) is demolished, the lot will be empty for a long time.
Came up multiple times in this video so worth noting… kids flash is already down for maintenance issues at SFFT and I believe SFOG. Not good for skyline.
Skyline FTW
I have my doubts about Flash Opening at GA in 2024 or possibility at all. It's my home park and when I was there for Holiday at the Park there was zero movement construction wise.
I know people are saying it may be super late. But good news, its a small footprint and may only take a couple weeks to assemble
Some say that SFOG’s Ultra Surf would open too late but I don’t see that happening. It’s basically a “water ride” so it shouldn’t take long to construct it in order to open it on time
Buy or sell: cedar point will eventually remove Gemini in favor of a modern wooden coaster or a beyond 90 degree drop coaster.
I have my fingers crossed that vortex replacement will be a launched looper from Vekoma with a batwing next to the walkway to pay homage to Vortex. With any luck we’ll be getting it in 2025, fingers crossed they got a package deal with a family coaster and a launched looper 🤞
It's tough to say. I'm skeptical a package deal was involved as Cedar Fair has not worked with Vekoma since adding WoF's Boomerang in 2000. KI's Family Boomerang definitely screams *"last-minute addition."* It's being added at the same time as Good Gravy - just 3 hours away - which is NOT ideal. Plus, the figure-eight version KI went with is Vekoma's most popular, most-basic off-the-shelf layout.
My guess is Cedar Fair decided to delay the Vortex replacement as they re-evaluate their relationship with Mack. The Family Boomerang works as a stop-gap addition (as did the Snoopy coaster at CaWo) and improves Planet Snoopy's standing. At the same time, it provides KI an alternative in case they can't go forward with a Mack multi-launch (which seems likely). Also, this is pure speculation, but I wouldn't be shocked if a settlement for the botched Montezooma contract involves Mack providing some off-the-shelf coaster models at-cost. Hypothetically, this could involve Sierra Sidewinder clones coming to parks (including Six Flags), and a water coaster clone for Carowinds. The Storm Coaster model at Sea World Gold Coast seems most likely. But beyond that, there would be a 10-15 year moratorium on custom coasters or conversions from Mack.
Canadas wonder land some construction at the front gate but unfortunately not confirmed yet
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So I didn't know about the Glenwood Caverns incident and looked it up... What the hell just happened in October?!
Something that could have been catastrophic
@@AirtimeThrills that's crazy. I was reading the article and then they mentioned the accident. The whole incident in October could have been terrible, how scary.
Never thought Great Escape would get a new attraction until it got announced. I'm 4.5 hours away from Great Escape so it might be a great place to go visit and ride the new GCI coming.
It’s actually a Gravity Group Woodie.
I know the flash is coimg to six flags great adventure but I'd love to see a b&m dive coaster in 2025 or 2026
Buy or sell: B&M’s next major coaster model will be a blitz coaster.
Buy or Sell: Knoebles will get an RMC Raptor in 2025 or 2026.
Buy or Sell: Hershey Park will close Wild Mouse and replace it with an RMC Wild Moose in 2026.
Buy or Sell: More parks will get coasters similar to Big Bear Mountain.
Buy or Sell: Kings Dominion removes Anaconda in 2025.
Selling the Raptor at Knoebels and Anaconda closing in 2025. Knoebels would benefit more from a family coaster (Vekoma SFC or Family Boomerang) than another compact thrill coaster with inversions. Besides, they're relatively close to Great Adventure. KD probably won't get a new coaster for at least 5 years after the Volcano replacement opens, so it makes no sense to close Anaconda until they're ready to build on that site.
Hershey removing their Wild Mouse for a Wild Moose makes a lot of sense. (Just hope they don't call it "Mildcat" haha) I could also see Dorney replace their Wild Mouse with the Zamperla version down the line so they'll have a spinning coaster.
And "more coasters like Big Bear Mountain will open" is so vague it's practically inevitable. Lol. Seriously, does any enthusiast think that no other park in the world will open a Vekoma family launch coaster? Even Magic Mountain will probably add one to replace Gold Rusher.
@@brianfoss571 For Knoebles, I was thinking that they would get a coaster that has the same layout as Railblazer. Anaconda is not a popular ride at Kings Dominion because of how rough it is, so it could be closed down and not replaced for years, similar to Volcano. Also, I think that you are right about Magic Mountain getting a coaster similar to Big Bear Mountain to replace Gold Rusher when it closes.
@@TalkingSports-k7c Yes, I assumed you meant the basic Raptor model. Maybe to replace Impulse, but otherwise it's not needed in **Knoebel's** lineup. And Anaconda is unpopular, but it's not a maintenance nightmare like Volcano was. KD can run one train on it for several more years. As for your Big Bear Mountain prediction, I'd recommend changing it to list specific parks you think will receive a Vekoma family launch coaster. It's honestly too vague and broad to be interesting, or even meaningful as a prediction. It's like predicting at least one team will make it to the Super Bowl: **Duh, obviously...** Haha
Buy or Sell: Magic Mountain will focus on family-thrill coasters over the next decade, adding a smaller B&M Wing on the Golden Bear Theatre site, building a Vekoma family launch coaster where Gold Rusher is, and replacing Magic Flyer with a Mobius P'sghetti Bowl.
They could get a Family Invert as their next major coaster
Buy or sell: Valleyfair will get specifically a B&M looper before 2025 since corkscrew is the only inversions at Valleyfair. (Wing, Dive, Invert, Ect.)
Buy or Sell: Instead of removing SLC's, Vekoma will re-track them fully similar to Great Nor'Easter
Buy or sell:
B&M will upgrade existing rides with new trains featuring new lap bars shown on penguin trek. Eliminate head-banging on the older B&M Loopers
I hope
15:45 I actually didn't like Pipeline. Us guys have to ride very defensively. The airtime is cool, but the landings are not good. Your groin does smash against the perch on the landings if you don't guard against it (don't kick your legs out or else). The bouncing seats that don't lock in place like the old ones means this is a forever issue. I figured out how to defend against it, but nothing can be done about the vests. I usually love B&M vests, but these are very painful. Big Bear Mountain was worlds better, borderline top 100 coaster for me.
I would say Big Bear Mountain was a bit of a sleeper hit. I was throughly surprised by how good of a ride it was.
Late response, Good Gravy is phenom.
Maybe this is because of a recent visit to Disney World, but I think parks are definitely going to be interested in what Vekoma has to offer
Buy or sell: after 2025 the craze for family coasters will die down and we will see more thrill coasters
Hard Sell. There are too many family models parks can choose from now. Family Boomerangs and Straddle models, along with family inverts and Gravitykraft woodies, will continue to be added. I expect a few parks will want to add a Wild Moose or Zamperla Wild Mouse, too. It's true that births peaked in the US around 2007, but there will still be plenty of families with kids aged 6-12 to market family coasters to in the next decade.
But or sell Michigan adventure zamperla x-max
Let’s gooo a new video
Well, asterisk on the 500'+ launch coaster since I'm still skeptical that they'll ever actually finish the thing.
I'll still give ya the "launch coaster will be the sleeper hit" thing, I've heard nothing but praise for Gotham City Escape. Maybe expectations were a little higher than Pipeline for people in the know, but c'mon, it doesn't even have a Wikipedia page yet.
Buy or Sell: a manufacturer will attempt to make an all wood hyper coaster in the next 10 years
I went to six flags magic mountain yesterday (12/26/23)
Buy or Sell: Six Flags/Cedar Fair will add Super Boomerangs to two of their mid-size parks in 2025, with the most likely destinations being Over Texas and King’s Dominion
Just imagine SFNE replacing both the Goliath and Flashback boomerangs with a Super Boomerang as their next major coaster
SeaWorld San Diego gets an RMC coaster in or before 2030?! Buy or Sell
Buy or sell: Disney World will add a new coaster after Epic Universe opens
Honestly, we all were ready for SFA’s Mind Eraser to be replaced, and I’m kinda disappointed that it isn’t.
If they wanted to upgrade the trains, they should’ve done that like 6 years ago. Even then, it’s yet another band-aid solution to a rough and aging 1990s coaster. This park seems to like doing that.
Yeah ive found some of the bad SLCs dont necessarily benefit from new trains
Buy or sell: if flight deck (CGA) gets relocated it will go to valleyfair for their "new" coaster.
Buy or Sell: Chris buys the title of this video
Buy or Sell: SFOG gets a Jersey Devil clone RMC Raptor in 2026 as their next major coaster
I dont think a power splash and a kiddie coaster are competition for Arie Force One. Not even close
Buy or Sell? The new Universal GB park will have the county’s first RMC. As much as I know plenty of parks that would be the perfect fit for a Raptor, it’s not looking like we’re getting one anytime soon.
Buy or Sell: Magic Mountain will get an RMC giga? Bush gardens Williamsburg gets a RMC?
I would say ovnership (51% of Ceadar Fair shereholders), trading sign are more important then just branding 🙃
Branding is still important. Especially if you got a big ego
Yes, the most special time of the year, when Chris sees all his wrong predictions 🎉🎉(joke)
Youre not joking and thats ok
Buy or Sell: Raptor at Cedar Point will get retracked before getting removed.
Buy or sell: in the next 16 year’s marvels land in universal islands of adventure will be rethemed to Godzilla, Kong, and pacific rim calling it legendary land
Buy or Sell: the Disneyland Resort and will start opening up several new rollercoasters within the next 5 years. One of them being something similar to Velociacoaster but in Galaxy’s Edge.
Buy or sell: sfga will rmc American eagle for its 50th anniversary and Goliath will be with something compact, like a raptor, t-Rex, or even something like tmnt shell raiser
they haven't officially announced anything, but Canada's wonderland is currently renovating their gate for 2024 lol
amusment insiders moment
"allllllllrighty"
Buy or sell: with the opening of epic universe in Orlando and the fast and furious coaster in USH, the American universal will face a major price increase
Buy or sell: Six Flags and Cedar Fair merger will cause some people (including me) who have only been to one chain to feel that the chain they go to is no longer the same chain they knew and loved them for. (P.S. you can shorten this for the video if you need to)
Considering that Dorney’s newest coaster is a B&M with floorless trains and WoF’s newest coaster is a GCI, I’m expecting ValleyFair’s next coaster to be not unlike Zinger and MA’s next coaster to be a larger Chance Rides Big Dipper.
I’m not counting relocations
Actually think Valleyfair's getting a B&M Dive, hopefully with 5 inversions. The former Dinos Alive space has a ton of space for a batwing after the first drop. It's almost shameful B&M hasn't built a dive coaster with one yet. After that, add a zero-g roll, an inclined loop, turnaround into a stalled corkscrew, and final turn(s) into the brakes.
But they'd also benefit from getting Invertigo from KI. They could squeeze it in near Wild Thing's entrance, and eventually build a STC on Excalibur's site when both are ready to be scrapped.
@@brianfoss571 I was making a joke in refrence to how WoF’s newest coaster is similar to their previous one, and how the two most recent (non-relocation) coasters at Dorney are B&Ms with floorless trains.
Buy or Sell: After the removal of the comfort collars from Ice Breaker and all the backlash from them, Premier Rides will stop making rides with comfort collars.
I wish
Buy or Sell: The Cedar Fair-Six Flags merger gets canceled sometime next year
I honestly think Selim has SFOG as of his favorite parks in the chain when he gave the park both Kid Flash and the Ultra Surf in a one year span.
I don't know that Selim necessarily enjoys that park over others. The ATL metro area has grown a ton over the last decade, so SFOG is a safe choice for last-minute investment. And a P'sghetti Bowl and Ultra Surf are relatively cheap choices that play to Fun Spot's weaknesses. They don't have modern family coasters or thrilling flat / water rides. An Ultra Surf gives them ArieForce One's height and speed without an excessively intense finale. They're just smart biz moves that put FSA on the defensive.
@@brianfoss571An RMC Raptor is another cheap coaster that SFOG could get as a last minute investment, but the gaps they once had to be filled in before getting one as part of them thinking out of the box of what coaster they should get. Kid Flash and the Ultra Surf are really good editions for SFOG in my opinion as it being my home park, both of them them their first new ground up coasters since Dare Devil Dive in 2011
I hope Kid Flash was cheap, considering both have been closed for a month with no explanation, and it's future unknown. Skyline coasters do have a tendency to operate very shortly before being torn down, but just 1 month is insane.
Buy or sell: we will see Darien lake get a new coaster by 2025-2026
But Canadas Wonderland is getting a new entrance in 2024
Buy or Sell: We will see another Surf Coaster before 2030
Buy or Sell: By 2030, SeaWorld San Antonio will replace Journey to Atlantis and the Nautilus Amphitheater with a B&M Surf and replace Great White with a B&M Wing.
Viper at six flags magic mountain, WON'T get removed in 3 years. (I hope)
Hopefully it gets at least one more repaint in it’s life.
It should be preserved as along as it can be
Buy or sell: kings islands next major coaster will be a zamperla launch coaster
Buy or sell the new
Six flags chain will start to focus more on the thrill rides in parks like kings island and cedar point
BUY OR SELL: Maxx Force and Steel Curtain were S&S's major shot to enter the North American market on an entirely new level. But Steel Curtain's reliability issues mean the company blew their one big shot at North America.
Buy or sell: theme park chains other than cedar fair and six flags will have to up their game because of the merger. Love ur vids!
7:17 hi jayce
Buy or Sell: Both Kid Flash coasters will never open again, and all 5 Skyline coasters will soon be defunct. After operating for less than a month, both Kid Flashes have been closed all December, and the trains have been removed. I have found no reason, and nobody is talking about it. I guess we're just so used to Skyline coasters flopping within their first year, then getting removed. Brava has been a success, but it was always temporary and will be removed soon.
I heard that SFFT’s park president claimed that they’re working on fixing the issues the ride has
There you go, I think airtime is getting a bit stale and then bam, you release entertainment like this and other videos you've made recently
Is it possible that Michigan’s adventure will get a new thrill coaster?
Sure! They could always get the Boomerang from WoF! 😜
I dont know why they would start now. Maybe if something gets removed
Buy or Sell: Busch Gardens Williamsburg will get a S&S Axis Coaster in 2027
When is Amy doing her Top 5 Train Rides?
She is on strike til we renegotiate her contract
6:58 I am still mad about Adventureland's new owners because of how much they have changed like some of the new owners ideas are great like phantom fall fest but still the have massacred the parks rides and have replaced them with less thrilling family rides witch I'm fine with but the AUDACITY of these people to get rid of a yearly tradition that RAISED MONEY FOR MAKE-A-WISH like dude! That's so messed up know it's being held in some outdoor mall that doesn't change to get in so now there not raising as much money as they did cause most people they only go to see the lights and don't donate but earlier if the wanted to get in you HAD to pay meaning you basically HAD to donate but not anymore! If lost island sells themselves to a larger corporation im gonna LOSE IT
I thought kingda ka is 450 ft and TT2 spike is 420
Yeah i said the spike would NOT be taller than Ka
Buy or Sell: Universal Studios Great Britain will go ahead and it will be better than Epic Universe
Guess I’m like a half-genius 15:15
Buy or Sell: Amy gets her first coaster credit in 2024.
Buy Or Sell: Zamperla become a top tier manufacturer in 5 years
Buy or Sell Six Flags STL and other low tier six flags will be sold off to consolidate debt
Thinking about it, if I could drop a Buy or Sell here: CGA doesn't end up closing at all. Either the city saves it themselves, or somehow incentives CF/SF to leep it running or have someone else take it over.
I've heard rumors that the city was shocked by the news, and they themselves have been looking at ways to keep it from going away. Just rumors, but I'd like to believe the park isn't going away.
The mayor released a YT video saying she learned about it in the news and nobody consulted with the city AND it was zoned for a park so any change would have to be run thru them. There's your prayer
@@AirtimeThrills
1)The actually zoning of the parcel is zoned for mixed industrial and entertainment use, accommodating restaurants or a shopping center. That means there is stuff they could do w/o rezoning. Everyone thinks Prologis is just warehouse, b/c that was their main thing originally, but they have been expanding & diversifying since the mid 2010's. They have done several mixed use projects with housing/entertainment projects in FL, NJ, etc... The city is all talk. If Prologis planned a mixed use housing/entertainment they city would rezone & approve it in a second. The area has a severe housing shortage, they need more units. There has been several council people that have already said they would be in favor of a housing related development, if that's what Prologis desired. The city needs the housing & wants the tax revenue .
2) It's a done deal, CF has already been paid for the land, they still own all assets on the land. So, the city is SOL. They would have to repurchase the land from Prologis, & they will want more than they paid. Then they would have to buy the actual park assets from CF/SF,which would be well 125M minimum, low end. CGA was a low profit park single digit millions net income. The city nor any park operator would take forever to get their money back paying Prologis 310M+ for the land, CF/SF 125M+ for the park assets.
Buy or sell: SFGA will get an RMC raptor for the 2025 season.
Buy or Sell: SFOG will name their Ultra Surf “Aquaphobia” or “Georgia Surfer” in early 2024
woah
Buy or sell: top thrill two will not be as good as the old one do to shaking like king da ka.
Buy or Sell: The Los Angeles Area (SFMM or Knotts) gets a Giga before the 2028 LA Olympics
Thorpe Park will build a new coaster after Hyperia by 2030