Easy Trim Syma X5C Quadcopter
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2016
- Hopes this helps to make it quick and easy. If you want to fly precision then trimming is a must. You may also want to check out this video • Flying Quadcopters in ... as it can also be helpful.
Some have commented that this technique doesn't work due to ground effect which is not true, it works great please read my response to those uninformed comments.
I disagree based on fact. It is true there is a thing called ground effect which is considered to be VRS, or vortex ring state. There are two places a heli or vertical take off and landing aircrafts experience VRS. The blade thrust is affected when the pilot descends in their own prop wash, this affects the inner part of the wings or blades. The second time VRS comes into play is once a pilot gets past what is called the sweet spot or incorrectly termed the cushion during take off and landings. This second VRS effect affects the wing tips or blade tips. The American aeronautical engineers also call this VRS but that is debated by our Canadian counter part, they have a different term for it. All agree there is a sweet spot on take off and landings which is not affected by VRS. This is the spot just above the ground but not too far off the ground. Anything past that pilots experience VRS or what is called ground effect. Where I trim is in the sweet spot before VRS kicks in and it works very well as seen in this video. All I can say is try it, if you need to trim when you're in a hover try trimming it on the ground as in this video, it's much easier to do and especially for beginners. - Věda a technologie
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Thank you!!! Just got an xc5 for Christmas and I’ve watched about five videos and no one has explained trim.
click on my channel name, then click on videos, then look for how not to loose your quadcopter. Many people lose their first quadcopter but it can be easily avoided. I have other videos which may help as well. Thank you for the comment, happy flying.
Great video, much appreciated. I just got my quad yesterday so your video was a huge help. Can't thank you enough. Bob
+Bob Yelkin You're welcome Bob, check out this video so you don't loose your first quadcopter like the rest of us did. :) czcams.com/video/aYhL41gNVAI/video.html
ive just got the x5sc about 2 weeks ago and i was so confused with trimming because of the badly translated manual i got with it ,i understand it completly now after this ,thank you !
Thank you for the input. Flying quadcopters is so much fun! I hope you really enjoy it and I've happy I could help. There is a link to another helpful video in the description of this post if you wish to check it out. Happy flying!
Mate, you are a genius. Thank you for showing me what I could not find elsewhere.
Thanks again, thanks.
Thank you man, you did help here. I was about to contact Amazon over this issue as the manual doesn't really help with this kind of problem.
Great job!
Happy to Help Jefferson, happy flying my friend.
Thanks very much, that helps a lot. The setting of the gyros too, I've been wobbling away at it since Christmas, finding it really tricky, these tips should help a lot.
Thank you for explaining this as my quad was doing the exact same thing and my Chinese broken English instruction manual wasn't getting me anywhere.
Thanks for sharing this video. Now I understand trimming much better. Great job on the video.
+Doc Kazoo Doc, thank you for your response! I have no way of knowing if I'm actually helping new pilots without having input, so thank you for your time my friend.
Just got my X5-C1 today....was having a hard time setting the trim...your video is about the best for doing so. Thank you so much.
You're very Welcome Jimmy! There is also a video in the description that I think you may fine helpful as well. If you have any questions please ask, I'll do my best to help you and other pilots. Happy flying...
I have been trying to learn how to trim. After this video,I'm gonna try your way. Thanks I'm 52 and wanted a new toy so after looking on CZcams, I decided to try this drone
+jarka1361 Let me know if it works for you, here is another video new pilots may want to watch. czcams.com/video/aYhL41gNVAI/video.html
Thanks been wondering just got it for Christmas
Good video. I just got my X5C and was lost. the trimming help so much. Thanks
Thanks for the note Steve. It's good to know that my videos are helping our community. There is a link in the description to another one of my videos and I think you'll find it very helpful. It says flying in the wind but there are many tips for new pilots. I also have one on preventing fly aways. Just click on wobble copter then click on videos and it will take you to all of my videos. btw, I don't make money though I've had offers to do so. This is only for my flying friends to enjoy and learn from. Happy flying... :)
very helpful.
I thought I had to always steer.
I didn't know the drone should float naturally!
It's great on a perfectly calm day, they'll just hover in one spot for a long time. Enjoy and thank you for stopping by and for the comment.
Just bought a drone, nothing in the manuel about trimming but this video makes it very clear. Thank you for that.
You're very welcome, check out the link I put in the description got some helpful stuff it there. Thank you for the comment my friend, happy flying.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! This video helped tons
You're very welcome my friend. There is a link to another one of my videos which may be very helpful to you so you might want to check it out. Happy flying Nick, stop back anytime. :)
Your very informative and you explain in easy to understand terms
+Aussie Quad Thank you, exactly what I'd set out to do; thank you for letting me know it worked. :)
great video man, I think I finally understand it now
If you have any questions please ask, happy to help my friend.
very good tip man, much apreciated!!
You're very welcome Felipe! Thank you for stopping by and taking the time leave a note, much appreciated.
Thank you! You make my flying more easier
You're very welcome Merley; that's what it's all about. I really like the folks in this community and am very willing to help with anything I can. Stop back for questions or whatever my friend. You may want to check this out if you're new to piloting. czcams.com/video/aYhL41gNVAI/video.html
THANK YOU SO MUCH! YOU SAVED MY DAY I SUBSCRIBED AND LIKED!
You're very welcome! There is a link in this description which is also very helpful for pilots. Happy Flying my friend!
This really helped thanks
Good video just got my new syma x8hg very useful tips thank you
Thank you for the comment much appreciated. I'm sure you'll enjoy the X8 as they fly great. It is heavy and is subject to vortex ring state. Not sure how much experience you have but just in case VRS is descending in the quadcopters own foot print. The air is turbulent and the aircraft will fall and keep on falling unless you pitch it in any direction and give it some throttle to get out of the bad air. Here are some tips that may help a lot depending on your time in grade flying these wonderful machines. Thanks again for stopping by, welcome back anytime, I'll keep the coffee on... czcams.com/video/aYhL41gNVAI/video.html
thanks for the info! my second flight may be alot better now
you're very welcome Brett, if you click on wobble copter and then click on videos you'll find one I did about flying in the wind and also has tips. Its a good one to watch for those who are newer pilots, it could save you from loosing quadcopters like all of us do at first, including me, haha happy flying...
(Victor) Good instructional video bro.
You covered some very good points with details.
+Messin With Quads Thank you, as you can tell my vids have no polish but they can get some info out there. The facebook syma owners are mostly new pilots and any help is a lot for them to enjoy the fun of flying. thanks again for your comments, much appreciated.
Thank you so much! You really helped me out.
Happy to help, check out the one I put in the description which is also very helpful.
thank you so much seriously for the life of me couldnt figure out why my quadcopter kept going sideways as soon as i took off. thought it was a blade problem but turned out it was the trim all along! i had it all the way to the left thats why it kept taking off on me
You're very welcome Nic!
Nice Job! This should help all the Christmas people who got Symas as a gift. =)
+INTELMAXELL Exactly why I made this video, sharing it on Facebook Syma forums, lots of new pilots asking basic questions so I posted some help and hints videos. thank you for stopping by again, much appreciation.
Just bought this and had exactly this problem, this is a better way to do it.
Thanks for this
Thank you very much
This video really helped thanks
You're very welcome; happy flying my friend.
cool video man!!!
You're very welcome, hope it helped...
Very helpful,thanks!
You're very welcome my friend.
Thank you soooo much this helped me a lot 👍
You're very Welcome! Happy Flying!
Good tips thanks!
You're very Welcome! Happy Flying!
Thanks ever so much, great info 😀
You're very welcome Chris, happy to help.
thanks! this helps alot
You're very Welcome! Happy Flying!
It was great helped me out alot
Fantastic...happy flying my friend. Check out a few more on the X5C if you need any other flying tips.
Thanks this is way better at explaining good bless
God Bless you as well my friend.
perfect dude! i was just given two of these and there's no instruction manual. this helps a lot. thank you!!
Let me know if you have any other questions; happy to help. There is also a link in the description to another video I have and you may find if helpful. I know I would have found it very helpful at a point in time, lol...happy flying my friend...
Thank you. The throttle is insanely sensitive. It will start going up slowly but then without doing much it will shoot up. It's very tough to find some level point. I'm trying to use the diagonal bottom right position on concrete that is fairly level and it seems to help. Is there a way to decrease the Sensitivity?
No way to change the sensitivity of the throttle so you'll just need to get used to this one. The thing is even when we think we're multi tasking we're not really doing it. We're going back and forth between tasks so when the focus is on other things when flying it's easy for us to move a stick without really knowing it. Also it takes time to get used to just how far we move a stick; at first not much movement so we add a little more and it's too much. I really do have to say that the X5C has a throttle unlike many if any other quads. My problem is flying one after flying many others so when I decrease the throttle I go too far and it begins to fall so I have to push it up right away. Keep working with it and also if you get it on level ground you can reset the accelerometers by turning on the quad, bind it and then take both sticks straight down then out away from each other to the lower corners of their movement. Once it quits flashing it's back to level. Keep working with it my friend, stay in touch if you want I'd be curios how it going for you.
Wobble Copter yeah i know the feeling of getting used to another brand / model. i actually started on a much higher quality drone, with gps and a view screen on the remote. now I'm kind of going backwards but honestly i need to. it would seem that if i can fly one of these, then i can fly much better ones later. thanks again for your help! I'll keep you posted!
you're exactly correct. I started out opposite of you. I got one of these and learned how to actually fly it. Which means steering with the rudder, left stick. and using the ailerons to bank in turns. When you can fly it like that, put it where you want without thinking of it you're ready for an upgrade in terms of non gps models. It is so much fun to fly by only thinking where you want it to go and not giving the sticks a thought.
thank you is the best video for used this drone/ muchas gracias
You are very welcome my friend. Mochas Gracias for your kind words.
Thanks so much. awesome video.
You're so very welcome Elisabeth! I have a video link to another great instructional guide for flying in the description of this video you may want to take a look at. If you don't like links you can click on wobble copter above and then click on videos. The one I'm talking about I think is on the second page. There is another one on how not to loose your quadcopter too. BTW, I'm non paid, I do this to help out the community, happy flying!
thanks, too bad I totally lost my drone while flying. Stupid me trusting myself with expensive things.
Sorry to hear that Elisabeth, if you get another one please see my video on how not to loose your quadcopter. You'll never loose another one!
My first drone was a Yuneec Breeze, which is very easy to fly compared to the Syma x5sw I just got. The Syma is very sensitive to the slightest wind. Just learned about calibrating, hopefully I won't loose the damn thing! The Syma is very forgiving in crashes!
It the description there are some tips in flying in the wind. Just click the link and I think it may help you keep from losing it. Not to worry, most lose their first one but no need if you follow some basic rules, Happy Flying!
That did help, thank you. Just got my x5c in today. First drone, figured I'd better start with something inexpensive.
Great video helped explain a lot . Could you talk about fly away and is there a way to check before it happens ? Thanks again.
Hi Tim, in terms of |fly away's) are talking about the Syma X5 C or models in general. The Syma will not fly away if you lose radio contact, other models will most certainly fly away if you lose radio contact. If you want to check if it is a fly away model turn it on, start the props a little then shut down the transmitter. The main fly away problem is new pilot procedures. If you never want to loose a quadcopter to this then look through my videos on how to prevent fly away's. Click on my name, wobble copter to take you to my home page, then click on Videos and it will show you all of my videos and not the videos I have clicked a thumbs up on. If I didn't answer your question then ask again and give me something specific. Happy flying my friend.
helpful. thanks.
You're very welcome my friend. I think it's a good idea to support fellow pilots and this hobby. I appreciate you taking the time to say thanks! You may want to check out this video it may also be of some use czcams.com/video/aYhL41gNVAI/video.html
Excellent vid and tutorial.... Ordered my X5c today from Gearbest...... Trying to pick up the expert tips..... ATB Ian
+Ian Jay I think you ordered the perfect quadcopter if you're starting out. :)
Thanks WC.... Yes starting out but made the fatal mistake of buying a CX-20... On second attempt at flying it flew away resulting in a total loss crash.... £150 down the shute!! Note to self.... Allways do your research.... lol.... ATB Ian
+Ian Jay In the beginning I was inspired by the DJI Phantom and wanted to fly something like that one day. I decided to do my homework first, so this video shows my flying at the very beginning and then six months later when I bought my first gps quadcopter. The only reason I did this is because as a youngster I went with my older brother who flew RC, it wasn't easy and it taught me to start slow. Watched my brother crash many an airplane until he learned how to fly. All the best to you as well my friend. czcams.com/video/beOrZQCHCtA/video.html
+Ian Jay Check out flying on a windy day, it' has some good tips on how to, not loose your quadcopter. I've lost three of them, lol, and learned the hard way. czcams.com/users/MartinFluteCompanyvideos
Thanks WC..... Much appreciated..... I will check out vids..... ATB Ian
Thanks, that was great.
Anytime my friend, I also have on on flying windy days also includes tips, it's worth a look.
Check this one out...czcams.com/video/aYhL41gNVAI/video.html
Just been out with the X5C.....all trimmed to perfection. Thanks to you :) Will check out the tips video too.
That's Great! This video is what happens after six months practice flying a Syma X5. A very short video I did last fall. czcams.com/video/4WsFILcLVZU/video.html happy flying!!!
Thanks for that, as a new quad owner this should help with the drifting I currently have. Can you tell me if I will have to trim my current issue each and every time I use my quad?
+k33adr Actually most of the time you won't need to trim it. If you notice when it hovers that it seems to be tilted to one side or the other you would want to trim that. Sometimes it's obvious it needs to be trimmed. If there is no wind and you want to fly it precisely trim it and it will float right in front of you, it's cool. make slow inputs on the stick and put it right where you want it. If you click on wobble copter above then click on videos you can see other training type post, ones like flying in the wind. I'm adding directional flying before too long, it should be informative for new pilots. Thank you for the reply and if you have more questions let me know!
How do you manage to make the quad hover by itself? Btw great video thanks for sharing!
Unless a quadcopter has GPS hold it will drift in the wind as seen in this video. However if you have it trimmed meaning the pull of each propeller is equal it will stay in one location, or hover. Which is the essence of this video. On a calm day you can trim it well and then it will take very little stick to move it around slowly, it's fun to do if you ask me. Enjoy...
great video! thanks. what does the throttle trim actually do??
This one doesn't have throttle trim but if you have it you can adjust the hover in small increments so you can make it hover without climbing or dropping. Sometimes the throttle lever isn't sensitive enough to do that.
Will it remember or will i have to trim before every flight?
Thank you. Was getting frustrated with my Q222 after 3 days. Found this video, and now it can fly relatively calm n predictable :). Do we have to do this trimming on every flight or just a gyro calibration is enough?
You just need to do it if it needs it, I don't trim each time. As we fly around and make sharp turns or crash it messes with the gyros and the trim. As long as the quadcopter will hover correctly it's fine. We do have to account for wind because the quad will drift in it and that's ok. I also don't do a gyro calibration each time, same thing, I do it when it needs it. I'm happy this video helped you settle down that Q222 and I hope it continues to fly correctly. Let me know if you need any help or have questions. Thanks for stopping by my friend.
Keep up the good work brother! Looks a bit on the chilly side where you are haha :)
+Messin With Quads Yes, I usually wait for days to even find a good flying day, it was under fifty here today and that was the best day of the week, lol. I want to head to some place like Coasta Rica for the winter but my wife out voted me like she does every year. She has 51 percent of the vote, haha, can you tell.
+Wobble Copter
(Victor) Well you guys can come to Tampa and be a little closer.
Plus you will get to hang with Greg and I.....haha
The good Word tells us to love our wives like Jesus loves the church, and for them to honor us as husbands.
So she honored your 49% but you loved her and stayed in that chilly weather.....lmbo
I often times find myself repeating Julia Roberts from Pretty Woman to my wife...."I say who ! I say when ! I say who !".
And she justs laughs at me as we end doing what she wants usually.
Happy wife happy life, right !? lol
Be blessed my beloved brother.....and stay warm ! ttys
and a whole lot warmer... :)
+Messin With Quads It would be an honor to hang out with you two. Oh, is your sofa comfortable, haha...just kidding :)
Good real life experience! How long do the AA batteries last with the transmitter? Do you use Alkaline or NIMH? Thx!
Hi Juian6, I always use Alkaline when I don't use rechargeable batteries. Some transmitters use a lot of power but not this one. Actually I don't remember running out of transmitter power so they must last a long time. If you do run out the quadcopter will lose reception and come down rather than fly off as some do. These are pretty durable but I recommend if you know the propellers are going to hit something turn the power off. When blades hit and are running at high speed is when they are at the greatest risk of damage. Parts are cheap and they're easy to fix. QC 101 has over two hundred flights on his first Syma X5C and has done no repairs. I wish I could give you a specific time on the transmitter batteries but I don't have that information; they last a very long time if they're Alkaline. You might want to watch the link I have in the description if you're a new pilot. Happy flying and thanks for stopping by.
My transmitter and quad will not sync, I've replaced and charged batteries??
Tnx!!!
Very welcome....
does the quad remember where flat is if the battery gets removed?
And can the controllers trim settings be reset?
Yes it remembers but you have to set the unit on a flat surface when you turn it on. If you need to reset the gyros after you turn it on while it is still on the ground bring both sticks straight down and then all the way to the right. The units lights will flash and when the stop flashing a second or two later it's reset. I have a video on this if you want to see it.
will this work for the x8SW Syma
Yes
its frustrating sometimes to fly this thing, you make it look easy, but its hard, how do you know what is font and back when its up so high , that you cant even see it? its ez to fly it away i think,
Same happen with me, with Sky Vampire drone, crashed 300m away
Here are some ideas on how to keep your quad from flying away, just follow the rules until you gain good piloting skills. czcams.com/video/-u20p5sy1_I/video.html
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Hey thanks for your video m8..
However when i try to trim it on a table or on the ground my right front props doesnt even starts but when i hold the camera in my hands it starts a bit and then stops everytime i got a Syma X8W any tips ? and also look my video's i've done some explain videos about it :(
I am a beginner to this drone thing i can even lift it up :( help me..
I think you bent the gear shaft or stripped some of the gear teeth away. If you changed motors that's the only thing I can think of. I left a more detailed note on one of your videos. The other two videos I looked at I asked if it ever flew but the video you explained what happened and that's the vid I left more info on. Let me know how it turns out.
Ok now i've trimmed succesfully all the props are working again the only issue left = he makes circles and doesnt wanna go up
I will upload a videa in 10min for better information^^
No need more :)) changed engine from A > B all now he is flying again in the sky
So what does trimming exactly do?
Sometimes when the quadcopter has been knocked around a little bit it won't stay in one location and will tend to drift one way or the other. If you fly in no wind or little wind you'll notice this unwanted pull will fight your piloting efforts. If you trim it from time to time it will hover in one spot if their isn't any wind. In high winds I don't try to trim it's one constant adjustment after another one anyway.
Great thx..i Always trimmed it in the air.....fail:)
+Erwin 1965 you're welcome!
you cannot tell if trim is adjusted properly flying that low. -prop wash causes this light copter to behave erratically when close to ground.
I disagree based on fact. It is true there is a thing called ground effect which is considered to be VRS, or vortex ring state. There are two places a heli or vertical take off and landing aircrafts experience VRS. The blade thrust is affected when the pilot descends in their own prop wash, this affects the inner part of the wings or blades. The second time VRS comes into play is once a pilot gets past what is called the sweet spot or incorrectly termed the cushion during take off and landings. This second VRS effect affects the wing tips or blade tips. The American aeronautical engineers also call this VRS but that is debated by our Canadian counter part, they have a different term for it. All agree there is a sweet spot on take off and landings which is not affected by VRS. This is the spot just above the ground but not too far off the ground. Anything past that pilots experience VRS or what is called ground effect. Where I trim is in the sweet spot before VRS kicks in and it works very well as seen in this video. All I can say is try it, if you need to trim when you're in a hover try trimming it on the ground as in this video, it's much easier to do and especially for beginners.
My Syma X5S didn't use to need Trimming, why does it need to be trimmed now for me?
+Adam Neewooth Adam, it could be a number of things. Try to re-set the accerarometers, It may also have a bent shaft on the pinion gear making the propeller pull to the side and not straight up as it is intended. Tell me more about the situation and perhaps I can help more.
+Wobble Copter Did this happen after a crash, does trimming fix it until you start it up again? The more you tell me about it the more possible solutions I may have for you.
+Wobble Copter It happened after I crashed it into a tree, and the only way I could get it down, was to push the throttle up, which made it go less down, so it was easy to reach. After that, I flew it indoors, (no wind), and it just all of a sudden just kept flying forward, I tried Re-setting the accelrarometers, and everything else, but it didn't seem to work. My only option, was to trim it on the transmitter, by moving the forwards and backwards trim 6 times down, to make it hover stably. :)
+Adam Neewooth I think something became messed up while removing it from the tree; that also happened to me a long time ago. If you have the parts I'd replace the running gears and see what happens. I did however have one that did this and nothing I could do would make if fly right again, it wasn't an X5, it was a 326 which is the same running gear. Make sure everything looks normal, motor placement and change out the parts you have. In other words I think this is a physical problem and not an electronic problem. Would you please let me know if you get this resolved, thank you!
+Wobble Copter Thank You very much, I will let you know if it gets reseolved.
I would get out of ground effect to trim.... about 5 feet up...
There is no ground effect at the altitude shown. One has to get just above that when ground effect comes in to play. Try if if you don't believe me. Two types of vortex ring state and neither one are in play at that point.
I'll check it out.. you're probably right because of how light this quad is...
It works the same for a full size helicopter. There isn't really a cushion of air but that's what people call it at that altitude. Just above that altitude is where the tips of the blades are affected by turbulence which differs when a helicopter lowers altitude in it's own footprint whereas the disturbance happens toward the center of the blades. American aviation calls both of these scenarios vortex ring state whereas Canadian aviation uses two different terms and claim the ground effect isn't vortex ring state. The reason I demonstrated trimming this way is because new pilots have a hard time trimming when the quad is in the air but this way it's easy and works perfectly every time.
is this quadcopter 101?? he sounds like him!
Nope, but he's my dad....just kidding. I like QC 101 but I'm am not he. :)
Love the lesson but you sound like Joe Walsh :)
Perhaps I am....:)
does this have to be done every time its turned on and off?