Adeptus Astartes Power Armour: A History of Mk.VII to Mk.X (Warhammer 40k and Horus Heresy Lore)
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- Being a record of the history and capabilities of the power armour of the Adeptus Astartes during from the Age of the Scouring to the Dark Imperium.
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I am a history major, and I gotta say your videos are a thing of beauty to me. I love the tone, the artwork, the narration demeanor... I could listen for hours. You should consider doing historical videos of the time period when Terra was still called Earth.
With material such equisitely written and narrated, everyone would have Ph.D. in history :D
Unironically I’d Love this
The Emperor protects, power armour does help though..
Grant OM having a loaded bolter never hurt either
U just said my line
@@perturabo149 I thought you did hugs
@@tomfordgunningham465 not everytime
Roboute Guilliman: A legion is too much power for a Primarch to possess.
Also Roboute Guilliman: I’m the Lord Commander of the entire Imperium, so every single Astarte answers to me.
Time and place. The Legions had to be broken down, Horus' betrayal proved that. It was a move that events like Huron Blackheart's betrayal, when he decided to make himself a new Legion with the best of intentions before going full on Horus Heresy 2 electric boogalo, vindicated.
Now, in a controlled setting, Guilliman recreated a force to reunite the scattered bits of the Imperium.
And even then, the structure is not like the Great Crusade days. Command is still delegated to a greater degree and Chapters still have great autonomy. The sheer cluster that is the Imperium at the moment helps that along.
The primary thing is the executive strength (IE shut up, High Lords, and let's stop power plays for five minutes. Also, Custodes, get out of Dad's house and do something) and reinforcement (these are new guns and guys. We are heading over THERE. Now you are in on the greater strategic picture. Good Luck. Bye.)
@@fedupN That's essentially my point. Guilliman always has sensible ideas, but that has a downside.
One of the things he got from his dad was an almost autistic inability to see things from other points of view. He doesn't consider how hypocritical he looks. He doesn't consider whether others will hold a grudge against him. He doesn't care that he has more power than even Warmaster Horus . He doesn't care that others might hold sacred the things that he's changing. Hell, during the Scouring, it seems to have genuinely not crossed his mind that maybe the other Primarchs were his peers and therefore had equally valid opinions on what comes next. His opinion truly is the sensible one, so that's what gonna happen.
@@Venneroth I don't see any hypocrisy. Gather data, change things as needed. Guilliman has been pretty consistent on that front.
If someone conflates Guilliman as acting like Horus, that is on them. If they are too stunningly idiotic to see the difference in motivation, action, and circumstance between the Heresy and 40k, that is on them.
Perception does not necessarily equate to reality. Is Guilliman a Warmaster commanding Legions?
Objectively, no.
He is in fact splitting his power up but giving the Chapters their own Primaris and not sticking around to command them.
It's rather like the Lion presuming Guilliman playing Emperor during the Heresy with Secundus. Guilliman wasn't. But he wouldn't cease trying to hold the ideals of the Imperium together because one of his bros had a bad take on things.
That would be stupid.
Furthermore, simply because someone has a viewpoint didn't mean it's correct, valid, or worthy of consideration.
A bad idea is a bad idea.
Curze might think he was in the right, but two seconds of common Sense and observation mean we can pretty safely say he is Looney Tunes and should not have his ideas and suggestions of flaying pits given weight or merit.
As for the Scouring, no one else stepped up. Dorn was, in classic Dorn faction, a stone headed fool.
In short, no. One does not allow the immaturity of ones peers stop things from getting done.
@@fedupN
But doesn't the point still stand that if guilliman got turned to chaos he would literally have enough power to take out the emperor? So that's too much power for one man to hold I thought that was the point. But that being said I know nothing it sounds like you know more than me
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Sure, if Guilliman turned that would fall into "very bad times" category.
What I suppose I'm driving at is that he isn't actually Horus ver. 2.1.5.
He is nominally at the highest point of command, but in function he isn't acting in the same manner as old Lupercal.
He isn't aggregating more power or authority to himself. He is actually handing off Primaris forces, supplies, etc to other loyalists, seconding them to their command.
Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and even the EdgeLord "kill our own guys" Dark Angels (seriously they murder a bunch of Primaris) all received the Primaris and the means to make more.
And then Guilliman left.
He directs grand strategy, sets the ball rolling, delegates authority when need like with Dante (who had been chosen as joint commander during 3rd War for Armageddon by unanimous decision so it's a common sense pick with precedent backing it up) and stops stupid things when he sees them (again, looking at you, High Lords) but he is not demanding the fealty of the Chapters other than the usual "if I tell that there is a big honking threat, react accordingly!".
Yes, some people, like the Flesh Testers who somehow bemoan their inevitable demise AND refuse the means to save themselves at the same time, will whine about how it's changing things and they don't trust the guy.
These people are also idiots, as example above.
Side note: check out Wolf Lord Rho on CZcams. A terrific font of lore.
Just found you a week ago. Since then, Ive consumed every one of your videos with relish. Keep up the good work friend.
6:13 Now i have to rewatch Astartes yet again.
Ah well, at least time well spent.
Brother gaze at my pouldrons.
Brother your pouldrons shine most gloriously
iwillnotkillyou CZ-En- I bask in their glory brother
Girls have clothes shopping, i guess we have this
Nice pouldrons bro.
You must lift.
Brother your pauldrons are majestic, however you must squat more to keep your greaves from making noise.
I'd love to see a video about weapons and their evolution next time, like bolter patterns for instance 🙂
Great video!
That quality of your content blows me away. Keep up the good work. The Emperor Protects... kinda.
🎶HHHEEeeEeEEerRrRresYYYYYYYY🎶
"More gooder"
*Nervously looks around for disappointed English teachers*
Seriously though, the way you present the topics in these videos is unique and special and amazing and I love it.
You're the only 40K CZcamsr I know who can present the history of a piece of technology with such gravitas.
Hush, you'll call down the ire of the Ordo Litterati
Gideon Scott it’s the voice, how each sentence seems to be especially created long before spoken.
I once a couple years ago attempted to fit a corvus helm onto mk 8 armor, it worked somewhat however, that marine is now part of my drop pod objective capping squad as he looks so combat ineffective he would only be a hindrance to his squads moral
-2 leadership
This...was amazing. It places the Primaris into a great place in 40k. It's akin to the invasion of the Clans in Battletech. It is a game changer and a paradigm shift. This video showed how much of how 40k's stagnation is willful, that such advances should have been a long time coming.
Delightful.
Nicholas Walls I can certainly see there being parallels between Mk. X armor and OmniMech technology in that both can be rapidly refitted to suit any combat role required.
Although the weakness the Clans ultimately had was that the expense of their tech and their factories being all the way back in the Kerensky Cluster make me wonder if Cawl has similar supply line issues with the Primaris
Chris Stochaj probably not, considering all Forgeworlds and Astartes chapters have the info on making them.
Plus many Custodes strike forces made it across the rift and disseminated the knowledge.
IT doesn't place the Pirmaris marines any better into the lore. they still stick out like a rotting thumb. The reason for that being, that they have no flaws and there has never been any credence for them. If they had been re-engineered thunder warriors than maybe they would have worked better. As they are now, they are terrible.
Would have been so much better if it wasn't this insane super space marines
“The sky can never be frozen
because its vastness has chosen
all warmth of our lives as we look above
with unbreakable hearts armoured in love” - "Thought for the day: Against the Alien and the Traitor there is no fair way to fight."
Wow. I have no idea how you managed to be so inspirational about something that's not even real, but you have a powerful way of speaking. So much so that I actually feel uncomfortable in saying that it's not real. By the end of this video I felt myself filled with joy at how our mighty Imperium is rising from the ashes and forging ahead towards a new age. I would have signed up to join the Astra Militarum if I could have. You are a true Iterator.
I feel the same way....
A personal favorite of mine is Pariah power armor. mismatched, scavenged astartes armor worn by blackshield warbands in the midst of the heresy, but they weren't chaos marines.
I know everyone has already said this but I feel I haft to add to it
you are the motherfuckin gold standard when it comes to presentation. dont you ever forget that.
Mark VIII and then Mark X. Can't help but notice there is a gap between the two.
It's really weird tech companies seem to do this a lot
Power armor, the reason space marine minis are so fun to paint!:)
Hey *DAD* i just wanted to tell you great video as always.
Thank you my sweet irradiated son.
Dude, your videos get better every time, absolute legend.
I wish the humble chronicler would teach us more about the Deathwatch, and specifically which chapter that was found wanting amongst the xenos hunters.
There is no god in heaven, nor upon Terra. So sayeth the Emperor.
"But there is within the Eye! MWAHahahaHa!"
Kor Phaeron.
While the implementation of the Primaris and their armor was......"tumultuous", they have become far more eased into the universe. Especially as iconography has become more prevalent across all chapters. Even in its most naked and standard form, Mark-X is quite a beauty.
My favourite 40k channel :)
Aaron Boone check out Arch’s channel. Really well done lore and commentary videos.
Why do I still LIVE? What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they've made of are dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by REASON and HOPE but by fear, hate and ingnorance.better that we had all burned in the fires of the Horus' ambition than live to see this¡!¡ Roboute guilliman🙌🙏🙌
When Bobby G said that it sent shivers down ky spine. Of all his brothers he was the one that had a bigger hand in building the Imperium plus looking after his own Ultramar empire. Yet put of all of them, he was the one that had to come back from the dead to fix anything because the other idiots who were still alive were "on a self-excommunicato".
Are we sure Corvus Corax wasn't the one in stasis and he was just cosplaying Guilliman when the wounding occured?
That's some whiny emo BS for a Primarch capable of multi-threading his own consciousness for experimental and theoretical purposes.
the moment i see one of your videos, i like then watch because it will be glorious to behold
As an inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus, I was doubtful to even believe that one of the Emperor’s Sons had joined us... now, however, I believe the real Heresy is made by those within the Imperium to adapt to the times. Mankind has always changed to improve and surpass the tests that come our way, and those that stand in the way of progress... must be Judged Heretics.
Just started watching your channel and I got to say after hearing a lot of lore I really like your take on it thanks and keep up the good work.
Must have missed this when it came out!
Interesting. I had read that the exception was the salamanders, who took after their gene father in modifying and improving all their equipment on campaign
I am confident in remembering that Astartes power armor ALWAYS was said to be "ablative ceramite armor plating".
Where does this "MkX does it first and is almost considered heretical for it" come from?
The whole "ablative armor" thing is quite old, in fact, as it was part of futuristic protection not just in WH40K but also BattleTech, Star Trek Voyager did it too, all predating the introduction of Primaris Marines.
Some real life thermal protection systems for spacecraft were, in fact, form of ablative armour and so had been some applied on rocket planes. Explosive Reactive Armour on tanks is also form of welll.... ablative armour.
@@piotrd.4850 No, that´s REACTIVE Armor.
Ablative armor would be when only the armor itself protects by ABSORBING the energy of the impact breaking it.
But i get why you mention it.
They tested ablative armor on a number of tanks as well.
I'd love to see your work on Astartes dreadnoughts, those both loyal and traitorous
This was the first vid I watched that you did then I went on and watched a few others--they helped me get some paint on Namarti Reavers and I think this might be my new favorite channel. A couple of thoughts:
-- I absolutely love the historian character! Never stop.
-- Buttstuffkaiju? I'm offended! (Reset the clock!) I hope you never change that handle, definitely makes me think I need to be more creative with my own!
-- I would love to listen to AoS lore as well and I'd be happy to help with Skaven, Deepkin or Seraphon lore or anything I can really.
-- Have you ever thought about talking about the dark time when you first came to Canada? I also went through a really dark time that getting back into Warhammer helped me get through. I thought about making a video about it on my own channel but haven't yet as it's sort of hard to talk about. I would love to hear your thoughts.
Anyway, that's all for now. I have subbed and will definitely be back. Thanks for helping me fight the war against the gray!
That White Scars Mk.VII ‘Artifacter’ suit...just thinking about all the...haaahh... *fun* things I could do with that... *drools in loyalist*
On a more serious and less potentially lewd note, I think I should draw attention to something about your videos that seems to go largely unmentioned: the quality of the background artwork. The sheer variety you typically present as a backdrop is impressive, even more so considering that I haven’t seen much of it at all in other 40k videos. It just makes me appreciate even more the time, effort and care you put into crafting these videos, that you would spend the time to gather such a myriad of eye candy when it’s entirely possible that many of your viewers don’t even look at the screen while they listen. Truly impressive!
(But seriously, dat White Scars Mk.VII ‘Artifacter’ armor, tho. My plasma gun is dangerously close to overheating.)
He's very clever in the way he employs slow panning shots across the artwork and gently transitions into the next piece almost before you realise that anything has changed. It fits perfectly with the choral music in the background and the languid, yet still authoritative, style of the narration. There are other 40K lore channels, some of which arguably impart more information than the Oculus, but none do it with such style.
Agree on the White Scars armour btw, but as you saw it first …….. 😁
I wish Occulus and Luetin would collab, they both make great vids and equally make use of imagery and audio.
I like your narration.
Its easy to understand
11:10 where did that beautiful White Scars Artifacter come from? I wanna see more, the full rendering
You continue to do great work, scribe-nerd.
@20:27 is me orit did your primaris rage shine through on the delivery of that line
Great lore video, I love your work!
I like your style on how you do 40k it's pretty cool. I'm always excited to see new stuff from you arch, lutein, theories and oms. All you guys keep it up, the lore is awesome and takes a dump on every other universe in sci-if except dune lol.
Please do a history of bolters from 30k to 41k, and a video on the Legion of the Damned?
Excellent quality as always Historator, I hope that your trip to Holy Terra rid you of any residual chaos taint left over from your delve into the nature of the Great Enemy
I mean, flamers are the only way to be *Sure*...but the fact he was not struck down on his pilgrimage to the Eternity does speak well of the state of his soul.
@@IONATVS taking a flamer to our one useful historator, whilst it would ensure he remained pure, would not serve to lift the veil of Ignorance plaguing our most glorious stellar empire as the Lord Regent desires. That would be just as, if not more heretical than having a slighty spiky historator. As long as he keeps the memtic chaos contrivances out of his reports hes good in my book
Of course. The Emperor works in mysterious ways, and while the Emperor and his Lord Commander are still making use of this Historitor’s talents it would be traitorous to destroy such a tool. But should his usefulness ever end-even should he do so faithfully to its Emperor-ordained conclusion, presumably after many centuries of rejuvanants and augmetics-purging the taint with Holy Fire would be safer than letting someone exposed to such taint return to his old post unsupervised where it might fester and be passed on to others less diligent than he.
Who the hell is hitting the dislike buttons on these videos?!
Another awesome video buddy. 😊
People who don't like Primaris Marines, apparently.
Oculus Imperia, I don't like Primaris Marines and I still like it.
I think there are some people (Well xenis probably) who make it their business to go and dislike anything 40K. I am not really joking, I know at least one girl who absolutely wants to wage a hate campaign on it becasue she thinks its promotes bad ideas and lulls children into bigoted thinking. Sad but true.
@@Trisjack20 oh jesus! Has she tried fighting for a worthwhile cause?!
I am so scared for our future and what it will look like when these nuttas take control!
Thanks for these!
Thank the Emperor, Archmagos. I do not trust this so-called "True Son" of our glorious God-Emperor nor his Primaris Astartes, though I am impressed by the creation of the Mark X Power Armour. I believe that Mark IX, rumours claiming it is named "Brotherhood" Armour, will be given to our loyal Firstborn Astartes Brothers when the time is right. Given the forces of Chaos once again march to The Throneworld, that time may not be long away from the present.
May you be blessed in his name, Inquisitor Desperaux Lavache.
I too like to think there being a MK IX suit system which provides the standard Space Marines access to the advantages that Primaris MK X suits offer them
I too have SEVERE doubts - not only about the allegedly returned Guilliman and the so-called Primaris Astartes, but primarily about the means how they - and the Mk. X came into existence. A lone magos - no matter how gifted - supposedly created Astartes significantly superior to what the Emperor himself had created after centuries of research? And then he had the spare time to also create an all-new set of armor that also is superior to anything in existence up to that point? This reeks of Chaos trickery - and I will have none of it.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 I see I have Inquisitorial Allies in these matters. I am pleased to see this.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 It's not like Crawl just "came up with" the Primaris marines it took him ten thousand years to make a slight improvement on a existing template and still are massively out classed by the Emperor's greatest creation the Castodies or Primarcs.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 Trazyn the Infinite played a role in defending Cadia (However, for his own personal reasons...) Perhaps Archmagos Cawl has some Xenos Heretech at his disposal.
Love the channel and how you do the descriptions.
Just wondering if there’s any way to figure out what happened to the Mark nine armor?
Man, I used to hate the mark X, but a few days ago I realized it represents what the Emperor would have wanted
Excellent, as always, Historater. Ave Imperator.
Even if I and many others don't like the primaris their power armour is petty good
I just hope they don't phase the old stuff out of the codex. I believe it will be a grave mistake by GW if they so. Most seasoned players have an space marine army next to an xenos army, I believe phasing it out would anger a lot fans.
3:43 do you have the links to your previous discourse?
I'm a big fan of your lore videos!
czcams.com/video/Y7lt9x5bu7Y/video.html here you go. Next time, before writing such a message, consider to just look it up yourself. Use the search bar, the results will surely provide you with the video you are searching for. It‘s even faster und less complicated.
The Emperor protects
I'm early, thank the emperor. Wonderful video.
Aslo probably first comment.
What is first even anymore? Not even the Inquisition could uncover the secrets of the methods of the CZcams comment section.
@@ZombieX13
It is much like traveling in the warp, it is something that you can't and shouldn't try to solve. Because if you do you'll be corrupted by it, and then you'll find us knocking on your door.
@@lordinquisitorpeter8221 inquisitior,the first thingy is a retarded way to say you are the first in the comment section,how i know that,simple the warp is fucking weird
Dear scribe , great video , setting the scene as I paint 👍👍 keep up the great work 👍👍
Simply splendid
I wonder though: apparently, "mint" Primaris DO NOT have Black Carapace. Does it mean that Mk. X and Primaris in general, dispense with speed and precision for greater endurance and raw strenght?
They do have a black carapace though?
They have all the augments of the firstborn and more
Great video as always
So... what happened to the Mark 9? Every record I can find seems to skip directly from 8 to 10. Is this more Inquisitorial redaction at work, or is something altogether more sinister afoot that an entire power armor design generation is simply lost to record?
I don't know. My current uninformed assumption is that whatever development hell power armour was in after Mk 8's launch was a development disconnected from Cawl's power armour developments. They might been expected to be called Mk9 since the project's start even if no progress was made whatsoever, so that separation and predating Cawl's work might offer some explanation.
The absolute fucking business:)
Thank you for another superb contribution to the history of our Imperium, historitor!
11:07 What kind of Bolter Pattern is that? Cause air need one of those in my game.
you are one of the only people i've known to actually give the primaris marines credit for what they are
even if you're only being in character, thank you for not hating on them like the typical 'tuber or fan
Damm that white scare armor looks great 😍😍
12:12 mark, it that a pre heresy 1000 sons shoulder pad amongst the other heirlooms?
I think you should do plasma weapons next. That would be very interesting and other pieces of more rare and exotic war gear in the imperium.
Hear hear!
Did cawl just do a windows and go 8 to 10
In the face of the twilight galactic apocalypse, tech heresy is the least of your worries.
Hydra Dominatus
pure quality
Gloria en excelsus Terra
Whooooo!!! Instantly awake!
Them 'umies done messed up now! That fancy new armor is just the right size fer ORKS! GET TA LOOTIN'!
Orks don't need armour they got gretchin to hold infront of them
Wait, so they have too replace the shoulder armor after every mission. That sounds insanely resource intensive. After like a year you'd have enough plates too build a battle barge.
I meant a 100 years.
or maybe 10.
Sooo....as a relative newbie to 40k and its lore, I have a question about this video's content: "What about mK9 power armor?" Does it simply not exist or am I missing something?
I think specially upgraded ‘Arctifier’ armor which are regular suits upgraded over a long time to be super OP are technically Mark IX. The kind of thing a Company or Chapter Master or similar great hero might wear instead of terminator suits.
Or maybe it was so bad they deleted the information to cover it up.
14:39 I assume you meant "Mark VII" rather than "Mark VIII", since you're already talking about the latter.
What happened to the Mark VlX armour ???
Thank you for making this one! You are awesome! 😁
Aren't you the Chronicler from Emperor TTS?
Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼
i love your content and every video is great, with that said 7:11"Far more better" made me giggle like a fool.
Wow a system that needs rectifying. Oh man shots fired at orginal space marines!!!
I do wish they had accounted for mk9 though
Yay! Morning made!
Far be it from a humble Inquisitor to question the wisdom of the Emperor and generations of Mechanicus Tech-Priests, but...
What happens if an Astartes needs to raise his hands above his shoulders?
I want u to try something
From your side lift your arm side ways without twisting the shoulder. Best I can manage is about 100°-130°
Now twist your shoulder and u can lift it higher.
What I'm referring to is the pauldron twists with your shoulder. Looking at this image images.app.goo.gl/aHTJ5L5MycHNDrWo9 it's not hard to imagine astartes are capable of doing that. Though without shoulder twisting they can only manage 90° at best and won't be able to reach as high due to the size of the pauldron getting in the face. As for lifting the arm straight up, so long as the pauldron doesn't overlap the chest plate on the front side it shouldn't be an issue.
You always use the shoulder twist in motion so I doubt it's so hindering to movement. Take a little getting used to sure.
I of course am not a armor expert so this only my interpretation and deduction. Some medieval armor have pauldrons with pauldrons so wide the connect to breast plate though not as THICC as with power armor. The restrictions would be comparable though
What about Mark IX Power Armour?
There was no Mk.IX.
@@OculusImperia at least... not yet...
Another glorious offering....HIS blessings upon you.
Great content!
Was there ever a MK IX? Or did Gman just skip straight to X?
There is no official Mark IX, some theory crafters think it will be revealed as a Mark X for the regular brotherhood marines. (Non-Primaris)
he skip 9. what about #9?
Currently there is no mark IX in cannon. Though some theory crafters think it will be revealed as a Mark X for the regular brotherhood marines. (Non-Primaris)
Kiroth Tv.
Sent me
Wait, so what happened to Mk. IX ??
14:20
That's some exposed cabling on his arm. It doesn't look particularly critical but still.
I guess it's for a detachable auspex mounted on the arm?
What's the art at 10:45 ?
Another great vox record worthy of the Emperor, beloved by all.
Soo whatever happened to Mark XIX?
If you mean the Mark IX unrevealed. Some possit that it will be a lesser mark X that has been made secretly for the regular space marines. No official word though.
Too bad Mk. VIII Errant doesn't have upgrade sprues. It's my favourite mark.
How powerful would the empire be if heresy didn't happened, how would it effect universe, would it be all good
Comment for the algorithm
Now you need to do Aegis and other special armors
You are Awesome!
Are you the Mighty Jingles great descendant?
What was that music in the intro ive hearf it in places lile junction gate but dont know where it came from
IMO the Tacticus is too angular. I would prefer more corners, or, maybe sharper lines between separate areas.