Project 0102 | Making an Electrolysis tank
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Electrolysis is the procedure of decomposing a substance supported by electricity. It is used for the export of pure metals as well as for plating.
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You should do a DIY powder coating setup next... I think you would really get some use out of it.
Either that or a spray booth.
Thinking the same thing while he was spraying from those cans.
Yes please do. I work with nat. gas burners, wood gas burners , various boilers etc etc. and would love to channel all that into building something the size of a sea can.. Er..I mean YOU'D need something that big. Lol
It would likely be far more durable than the rattle can jobs. I frequently notice in these builds that the paint is easliy removed from very little testing/use.
#youshould
It’s awesome to see the tools that you’ve previously made actually used in other builds.
Return on investment! Build something you know you'll get a lot of use with. Bonus points if you can make *more* things with the thing you built :D
Sure proves their continued worth. Tired of "make for video and use no more" videos because they don't leave you with useful things.
The first video of yours I ever watched was you ripping up a microwave for the transformer to make a spot welder. Its good to see you’re still in touch with your roots.
I've tried vinegar and electrolysis and the latter is way better - it doesn't affect the healthy steal once it removes the rust, unlike vinegar.
Great job, once again, my fellow Mediterraneans.
Try citric acid. I love it for smaller parts. Use hot water for a faster reaction.
8:40 always fun taking apart something old just to use the parts for something better, the microwave fan blade I used to replace a friend's boat propeller.
Me too. Almost everything can be recycled.
@Nick Maclachlan well it's not one for those big engines I know that's for sure.
Great video!
Also: Panic. Positive Anode Negative Is Cathode. I was so happy when I saw this acronym, thought I'd share.
Depends. On a power source, like a voltaic cell (battery) or a welding machine, Anode is negative and Cathode is positive.
But on a load, like an electrolytic cell, a diode, a capacitor or anything on DC, really, you're right, Panic.
Oh my god! Thanks. Always remembered Anode is positive because and is adding. Yeah..... not great I know. But. Panic! I can actually remember this now woooo.
I have been putting off making an electrosys tank for a while and after seeing this it fires me up to get it done. And using the microwave transformer, I love it!
Different shade of green! I can't handle it 🤔
Liked that Blue
Be Brave
@@markfryer9880 LOL 👍
Amazingly engineered build as usual. I’ve learned to expect nothing less from make it extreme channel. you guys are F***ing awesome!!!!
a) Maybe add an immersion heater?
b) Maybe add an aerator or stirrer to agitate the mix?
Good work regardless...
This channel is so damn cool. I'm pretty sure working in that shop would be my dream job.
The copper turns so nice 👌
Ahhhhh, yes the left hand in the pocket spray painting method. I too have frequented that style.
Great build.
I love your fabrication videos, ut you are single handed the best person I have ever seen at picking the worst color for tools.
This is why no matter what they do, what they take from us.. out of necessity comes creativity. What can’t you make?
You have the best videos on CZcams!
Another great thing is that this exact tool could probably be used to elctro plate big parts if you ad the right solution to the bin and use the proper anodes . Great build i wish i had the space for all the great things you guys make !
Very good work. Suggestion : using durable paints.
I’m thinking if you filled that container with Evaporust and turned it on, the rust would come shooting out like lava. Evaporust meets Electrorust!
Ωραία Δουλειά Μάστορα !!!
Excellent build, I can't wait to see what you repurpose next. I think it would be more effective with two positive anode plates, one on each side of the object. Or Maybe a section of thick walled pipe the same size as the box, to get the rusty item completely surrounded.
I deem that previous green colour was more better))
I wish my bandsaw was that fast! Need that CZcams upgrade
You should ground it for safety - it has metal parts with 230V AC around! :) Please use 3 wire AC cable with ground wire!
My thoughts exactly
It is isolated by the transformer - first, there is insulation on the primary side to the transformer frame, then it is insulated again from the transformer frame to the secondary wire. Double-insulated. No grounding necessary.
Super robota pozdrawiam Polska
Skills, expertise & imagination, bravo mages!
Your tank is better than mine! LOL. I have used electrolysis many times. That was a great build. Graphite can also be used for the positive electrode.
Not completely sure of this, but I think a steel anode helps by being a source of iron ions.
Very talented craftsmanship, I really enjoy the videos. Keep up the good work.
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Instead of bothering with this setup you should just fill the container with HCl 15% and add inhibitor that prevents iron attack (so it only dissolves scale and rust not the actual metal). Room temperature solution will derust parts without additional attack in 30 min - 2 hours, depending on the stage of corrosion.
lovely design
Make sure to properly ground the frame since you use mains
I have a Son who is a welder. I restore old equipment, metal objects and even vintage OLD WEST horse bits and other things from that era.
If you could take a moment and answer a couple questions. What was that box used for? Are they common? Also, from what I have seen, I thought you couldn't put copper below the waterline. (The drain fitting) Thanks Tim.
Unbelievable! You are one of my favorite and most influential people to watch on CZcams and I’ve never even heard you say a word!
Cool. A bit of work for something you can setup in a tank/tote in 2 minutes. Depending on what your trying to accomplish, using a premade solution works best with least damage to the piece.
Love seeing the large graphite plate being used!
There is no large graphite plate in the video. If you're talking about 13:09, that's a steel plate.
Holy hell Nutcerts are a FANTASTIC invention!
I wanna find this guy and make him teach me the ways of metal fab...I love this channel
Good job. Did you ground the incoming AC to the chassis? Because I didn't see any.
You mean the *safety* ground, not the null lead?
@@sleeptyper Yes. English isn't my native language so I didn't know exactly what to was called.
@@emilmuhrman No worries, i'm not criticizing your english. It's just extremely important to know the difference between null and ground.
Love the way u guys built new things
Washing soda = sodium carbonate. Future mods: 3 other anode plates to the 3 other cube sides. Add a way to suspend/hang smaller parts. Question: where to find the tub?
Looks like a liquid fertilizer tank. Or could be pulled from a water tight chamber on a boat.
For a big tank, a 1000L pallet container as used for delivery of lots of bulk chemicals, foodstuffs etc is perfect. Already mounted on a base, usually with a supporting metal cage or frame, often with large drain valve in place. I got some that had held a sugar/water mix from a beekeeping / honey farming business.
An unwanted esky or drinks cooler.
A new color a new EXTREME milestone!
Wow new color!
Beau travail super ce réservoir d'électrolyse.
Use a stainless plate on the negative instead of the mild steel one. It will never rust. You don't need to "move" the rust, you only need to give the oxygen a surface to be attracted to. If the plate was stainless, you'd have harmless oxygen bubbling up from that plate rather than it turning into a bucket of rust every time. Ignore the microscopic amounts of hexavalent chromium that everyone who doesn't understand concentration or ventilation fearmongers about. One inch of stainless welding releases more hex chromium than months of electrolysis.
When you will do the special project (mini lathe)
Oh man, I would SERIOUSLY love to see that.
Or a table saw full scale
Fix the sacrificial plates one each side...that's 4 in total...
Wire to the positive in PARALLEL...(or in other words as a ring...with both ends coming back to positive)...
Having 4 sacrificial anodes like this increases the surface area...and thus the effectiveness of the setup...
Be mindful electrolysis rust removal generates hydrogen gas...🇬🇧👍
next episode should be an oven for powder coating. Then you can start powder coating all of your builds.
FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!!!!!
@Chris Landry no it's a full bridge rectifier
At first it looks like a half wave rectifier because there are only 2 devices, but those devices look like dual diodes so it is actually a full bridge.
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Хорошая работа !!!!
Мастер ---удачи !!!!
Quedó flama, los felicito.
I dont think somebody would choose this Rust Remover over a Blasting Machine cuz it takes so much time :D. I love it anyways.
Nice job
Ты лучший братан!!!
Good Job 👍
You guys should make a giant powder coating oven
I like your tools
It NEVER gets old... ~👍👍~
Very fancy tank setup. Makes my old tub and battery charger look pretty horrible.
To improve results on complex parts I have found good results with anodes in each corner. It seems to work better if there is an anode within 'line of sight' of all surfaces and cavities.
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А что, технологичненько, зачёт!
А в каком растворе травили ?
@@user-xu5cp4vy7i так же вода и сода кальцинированная, у меня видос есть как сверлилку варил
@@dimooonz Спасибо!
absolutely brilliant, i love it
Супер видосик, руки золотые
Great video, how could you weld in that t shirt! 🤭
I would use nano platinum spheres at 30microns forthe electrodes in my extreme electrolysis project. Then I would dc pulse 70kv to 10v at 20ma in a distilled water bath. Electrode distance has to be 50mm or more. Generally your looking for the most suface area on electrodes. This technique I dubbed the Stanley causes a destructive waveform that causes the water molecules to disassociate into HO OH ions
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Μα...Έλληνες ειναι;
Στο βίντεο με το θρυμματιστη κλαδιών σπάνε ελιάς, λέτε να είναι Έλληνες;
The things you make on this channel are pritty awesome to say the least. I do have a couple of ideas for projects....... a teleporter (as in Star Treck not farm machinery) and a time machine........ actually just the teleporter, I don't want people changing history by mistake! Please? Then some sort of faster then light drive so we can explore the galaxy a bit and mabey use both of them to move around our workshops like This Old Tony 😁
great job
Really nice project. Love your video!
As a girl learning DIY I'd say it's a smart idea, but I wouldn't use it in my own workshop. I'd have chosen an easier way :)
What is that?
Evapo Rust works pretty well and much less of a mess..
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Smart Build !
Excellent 👌👍
Amazing as usual. Love your work.
You didn’t need to use PEM hardware when you could just tap a hole but I would want to use my self made clinching hardware tool too. I remember when you made that tool not that long ago. Nice tank! I need one too.
Simply awesome
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The problem with electrolysis is that if you leave it for too long you lose metal too,and you still need to act fast after removing the part from the bath or it immediately starts to corrode again. A better solution by far is to use phosphoric acid (and no other acid) : it dissolves the rust and also creates a phosphate layer that protects the metal from further oxidization. Plus it doesn't need an etching primer to be painted. My two cents. Thanks again for the vids, really relaxing and always an idea to take away from them \m/
The anode loses metal; the cathode gains metal. Here, that plate he connected at 13:08 is the anode.
Powder coating set up, oven made with aluminium sheets with insulation inbetween etc, oven elements for heating
Cool build, You need to add a way to adjust amperage as it plays a huge part doing electrolysis :) can't say anything more than that...keep up the great builds
very nice
Good very nice
Great job! Keep these excellent videos coming!
excellent job. I am always watching good luck!!!!!!
You guys are ine of my favorite youtubers great work!!
Как всегда, красиво, надежно, полезно... Всех благ.
Really Awesome Bro...
u the man.
I will not be surprised if you actually build an iron man suite with an arc reaction
Fantastic work, dude!!! Really amazing project!!! 😃
Awesome like always.
Excelente
You sir, are a genious!!
its a great day!
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That was awesome!
Did you change your camera or shooting gear? it's better.
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For a minute I thought you were actually making a spot welder. The current is way too high for electrolysis, unnecessarily high anyway. That's why your finish piece has been so badly eroded. Electrolysis works best around 2-4 amps, more that that and you end up etching away good metal which we can see in the end result.
What if he didnt leave it there for 24h only 12 could it prevent this problem ?
@@vadaszmate1400 In this case no. It might help but too high a current means the process is too aggressive and instead of oxidised iron particles (rust) gently wafting over to the Anode they are ripped from the workpiece at high energy. A lower concentration of electrolyte (less powder in the mix) would reduce the current assuming the power source is a constant voltage. I generally use a very mild electrolyte (a weak mix) until I get about a couple of amps even with the workpiece surrounded by the sacrificial Anode (bottom and sides) and I leave it in there for a day or two.