North America: CASE Introduces the Industry's First Fully Electric Backhoe Loader
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- CASE unveiled the CASE 580 EV - AKA Project Zeus - at CONEXPO-CON/AGG 2020. The CASE 580 EV is the industry's first fully electric backhoe loader, delivering the same performance of a CASE backhoe but with zero emissions, less noise, and without all of the maintenance and fluids related to the diesel engine.
For more information on the CASE 580 EV, visit CaseCE.com/580EV.
I can't believe they didn't use any audio from the video files!!! Surely showing how quiet it is / just hearing the scraping of the bucket etc, is the BIGGEST selling point?!
And the whine of the hydraulics....
they didnt scrape the bucket at all....
You can hear it on this video.
czcams.com/video/BSYUXjFsUB8/video.html
Let's see it at work.
john deere is preventing the farmer/end-user from working on/repairing/modifying the equipment they bought with their hard earned money, I hope Case don't do that to their customers.
William Lee it’s all the emissions regulations. So much tied into the whole system
colours and design looks really great
A solar panel on the roof to trickle charge would be great, especially when its parked and not in use on the job site.
Not sure how far an extra 350w would do.
Run the lights for a couple hours?
@@stevek4449 or the a/c while your sitting there cabbed up. 👍
Would be interesting to see a fold up solor panel the size of a football field on top a backhoe 🤔
I have to wonder what's going to happen when everyone switches to these electric machines/trucks and an emergency hits. Whether it's disaster cleanup or a waterline break etc. And that 16th hour comes and instead of filling the tank with diesel everyone has to shut down for twelve hours to recharge the batteries
I work for Case and Case IH in Portugal, is awsome brand.
90 kWh battery! Nice! Means it SHOULD be able to charge over night on a 240v system no problem! I would much prefer this system vs the really HORRIBLE new emissions choked out diesels they have now. Just needs about 200hp 250lbft ( ~150kw) to be equivalent to a diesel (electric will have more HP)
After n 8 hours of work with the breaker I don't think u'll have enough charge to get back to the yard 🔙
breaker !!!! very interesting thought . As one of a batteries arch enemies is vibrations. It would be interesting to see battery service life under constant breaker operations.
Having been a 580 operator for many years, in my 20's. I am doubtful the batteries would last the long hours, cold and vibration. The 580 can be a real work horse, it's not a remote controlled dinky toy. I'd like to see it do some tough work with a hammer or rip some frost with real audio in your video.
I wish we were able to see this machine booking it. All the shots were slowed Down glamor shots and we never saw the machine actually at peak Preformance or moving dirt.
Also the hydraulics looked a bit slow? Was the pump speed slowed down? I hope you nixed the variable displacement pump and went with a torque controlled motor to get consistent hydraulic pressure.
As a Case Tech, how difficult are these to work on and diagnose issues on? Being all electric Will there be shock hazards when troubleshooting? Will the EST still be a usable tool on these or is it self diagnosing?
Brian - this will be dealt with through training.
Ok. Thank you.
how much cost
Hi Ahmednt - thank you for reaching out. We would recommend contacting your local CASE dealer who can assist with all product-related questions: www.CaseCE.com/dealer
Nothing about work time before charging becomes necessary. Probably the most important thing they could have mentioned. You never hear an electric car advertised without it's range.
Probably an hour or 2 of real work
Nice channel colleagues - bravo.
Regards from Stoparts Ltd
You did a great Job! 👍👍👍👍😎🇩🇪
Way to go! Does it offer power cable connection if the crane will need to operate in a fixed location the whole day?
DC - can you describe a specific example of an application to elaborate on what you’re inquiring about?
Great question ..... IE can I run a 240V cable to it for consistent running
Troy - good question - the system as currently built is not designed for that, no.
Well done Case for leading the charge here.
What about regenerative charging on slew/braking cycles?
Someone below mentioned solar charging - actually not a bad idea at all, especially in sunny climates where a little extra PV would help, potentially running non-essentials like the dashboard display, beacon and movement buzzer?
As 'silent' as it is, will it come with a buzzer alarm to notify groundworkers of its movements? Obviously a constant white noise alarm during all operations will get tiresome, but a buzzer every time the machine changes direction would be great?
Stefan - all great comments and feedback - whenever you are braking and putting negative torque into the system, it does regeneratively recharge.
I want to try the new case 580EV sometimes when you guys are ready to reserve 😉
Hi Thomas - thank you for reaching out. We would recommend contacting your local CASE dealer who can assist with all product-related questions: www.CaseCE.com/dealer
EY OK SORPRENDENTEMENTE TODA UNA NOVEDAD BUEN VIDEO DE ESTA RETREXCAVADORA 👍👍👍👍👍👍SALUDOS DE TECATE BAJA CALIFORNIA NORTE ARRIVA CASE BACKHOE LOADER MACHINE X LA NOVEDAD
Great content!
I DID NOT SEE IT DIGGING OR MOVING ANY DIRT --CASE--- SEEING IS BELIEVING .
Esta retro case são muito bom na firma que trabalho tem 3 retro
Optima idea mas Para quantas horas de trabalho dura a Bateria e quantas horas preciza para carregar.
Muito linda! Esperamos o lançamento dela aqui no Brasil!
How much battery does the heat use
Hi Honda guyRR - thank you for reaching out. We would recommend contacting your local CASE dealer who can assist with all product-related questions: www.CaseCE.com/dealer
The only downside I see to EV heavy equipment is the need to transport to and from the job site on a daily basis to charge overnight. A portable power pack on job sites large enough would be ideal to be able to charge on location.
Tesla does mobile chargers so there would be zero need to transport whole machines.
What is the run time on the battery before recharge
The machine will operate for 8 hours under most common backhoe operations - you can read more by checking out our official news release: CaseCE.com/580EV
Technology and price point aren't there yet.
Never will be in our life time
Something is wrong with the tires...
How will this run at 40 below zero
How many hours untill IT needs recharge?
Hi there. The CASE 580EV fully electric backhoe loader uses a powerful lithium-ion battery to provide enough power for the typical 8-hour work day.
I like how they call electric powered anything "zero emissions". The coal burning power plant that's charging them sure has emissions not to mention all the energy consumed to produce the batteries! I'm not oppose to the idea of battery powered equipment but they really need to be more honest about it.
Honestly, burning coal is not the only way to generate electricity.
Maybe in flyover states that's half true, but most major states like California and Texas have advanced greatly toward renewable power generation, and it gets better every year.
insideevs.com/news/398551/evs-better-climate-ucs-report/
The national average for operating an EV in 2018, for example, translates to driving a car with roughly 88mpg efficiency. 2020 will be even significantly better of course, but the researchers haven't compiled the updated data yet, stay tuned.
Where I live, there's no coal power anywhere in the province. So, you are probably right in some areas, but not all.
I like how people pretend all electricity is from coal even though most of it isn't and it's mix in our grid production is dropping fast.
Even if it were all coal, the pollution and efficiency loses from transporting and burning gas/diesel on site is even worse. So, you are wrong in several ways and cerebrating your ignorance by insulting those who are doing something constructive.
Allan ^^^^^^^ USA average is close to 88mpg equivalent. New York and California are closer to 300mpg with the rust belt close to 45mpg. And those number dramatically improve over time.
Will any sort of computer /laptop interface be available to the customer as part of the purchase package, so that issues can be diagnosed in the field without having downtime calling for a Case-specific tecnician?
Yes, this machine will have the ability to notify you of codes and other issues just as any other CASE diesel-powered machine. However - just as with diesel powered equipment - there will be elements required to work directly with your dealer on that will require their input.
Nice
How long it lasts ?
Thanks for reaching out. The machine's lithium-ion battery provides enough power for the typical 8-hour work day. You can learn more at CaseCE.com/580EV.
I’m just curious how it would do with a breaker on it?
Thanks for the note Thomas - it is designed to retain the same hydraulic attachment performance as the diesel powered units.
CASE Construction Equipment thanks that all I wanted to know, nice machine
Cool! How many charging hours to running hours?
Steve - thanks for the note - 8 hours under typical utility application load - 4-5 hours under production-level work. 8 hours to recharge.
@@Caseatwork Hello case! Make sure that you have a solution ready for nearby charging. Solar with mega pack from Tesla would allow for overnight charging on site.
About how much more it will cost over a current diesel powered backhoe?
Thanks for the note - we're not publishing pricing online, but if you think you are seriously in the market for an electric backhoe, you can fill out the form at CaseCE.com/580EV and our folks will reach out to you.
Cool
So you would have to run giant cables out to the jobsite in order to be able to recharge your equipment and worry about hiting them. Compaired to a diesel delivery truck that just shows up and refills all the equipment on site every few days and is far more portable.
If a buyer was dumb enough to purchase the wrong equipment for their line of work, yeah, that'd be inconvenient. That's probably why CASE is offering new options, instead of replacing their diesel models.
5 years to see IOR over a diesel? Guys what are you doin, like really, how can electric really be the future and replace fossil fuels? Its 40% more expensive than a comparable diesel model, where the hell do you charge up a battery like that? You can't even run the machine for a full day, 4hours come on, what happens when the temperature is at -15c, how much run time would you lose?Leaving a $100,000 generator on a worksite over night to charge up equipment isn't really ideal to most companies. Oh wait that just means more security guards and insurance premiums. This electric phase companies are going through is ridiculous. Using equipment like this in mines, areas where zero emissions is needed yes makes total sense, as special equipment but to fully replace a fleet of equipment for construction companies just isn't happening anytime soon. Dont even get me started with JD and their equipment preventing customers to repair their own stuff.
Thanks for your note - all good questions. Each machine/application is different - for your application we will continue to manufacture diesel engines. There are other utility/municipal applications, however, where the runtime and overnight charging is possible - and this is an option for them.
I assume CASE are now desperately working out how to lend one to Robert Llewellyn so that he can do another digger based Fully Charged episode. Does he need a new pool or bunker dug in his garden I wonder? :-)
So, best case use is in a rental format for small scale operations. These certainly aren't going to be useful in a full scale construction site. They might, be able to dig out a single household pool in a day.
Dalton, thank you for your interest in CASE and the 580EV electric backhoe loader. The battery electric version will come with trade-offs as battery power creates unique challenges to package compared to the well-established and familiar diesel engine and fuel tank. Electric machines are not positioned to be a direct replacement for existing diesel powered backhoe loaders that have been around for decades, but serve a need on jobsites where noise reduction and emissions are the priority. Regardless, I assure you that the digging capabilities of the electric version meet or exceed that of the diesel version. Just like electric vehicles on our streets and highways, customers looking at the electric version will need to consider the length of their operating day and transport needs for the machine.
Una belleza de máquina.... la pregunta es si puede trabajar a una altura de 5500m.s.n.m
Love Case backhoes, had several of them over the years, I'm keeping my Super L till I die. This electric deal is OK in certain areas and some operations but I'm really sick of hearing about this carbon footprint/ global warming/ climate change B.S. everyone has to glam on to. Ever hear them talk about the process of building the batteries? Most of the rare earth minerals come from other countries, what do you think there mining process is in other countries? How about the eventual disposal of the depleted battery? How about charging? Big percentage of power plants use coal. Not to mention the small contractors won't be able to do any repairs other than tires, hydraulic cylinders, and lube pins. I have a 83 580D with 10000 + hrs and still use it to this day, I just can't see any brand of electric machine being worth much in 35 years. Again be good in certain places, maybe rentals, working inside buildings, just please stop the environmental B.S. please.
Great idea, but..... 8 hours run time, might be ok for union outfits but not the work I do, 30 years of rentals, in machine at 5 or 6 am, on the job for 7, finish 5,6,7 at night because with rentals you just never know, back to shop, 2 hours travel time plus a 10 hour work day, I regularly do 12 or 14 hours a day in the machine. Which of course depends on how far job is from shop, backhoe's are not left on job sites, too easy to steal, too easy to be damaged, tires, windows etc..
Cold weather like we have here in Ottawa, Canada, would reduce your run time if using Li-ion, however there is a new type of cell out, LTO cells, good for -40 and huge cycle rate, thousands compared to Li-ion or Lifepo4. Would last years compared to other battery chemistries. Make batteries exchangeable, so you can quick change to fresh battery packs, smaller packs also will bring down repair cost, easier to replace a small battery rather than one large one. Have 4 or 6 smaller packs that a man can handle by himself, make a trailer for extra batteries, so you can tow it to the job site.
New Battery technology that lasts decades, Lithium Titanate Oxid - LTO
czcams.com/video/v8EBI-N0KTk/video.html
Make is so you can use a Generator with it, for those locations way out, if your trenching or rock breaking, they have " Electric vehicle range extenders " on Ali Express, 48 to 72 volt, 3000 watts. So you could use one of those or similar, under 100 .lbs, could carry in front bucket. You could also make a " quick attach front generator " for the days all your doing is using the backhoe, or battery pack that fits in the front bucket.
Some of us, at least me, would prefer to be able to use a small nintendo type joystick for backhoe, hall sensor foot pedals for controlling attachments, at least 2 of them, like a tilt rotator bucket, I prefer to use just my thumb and fore finger to control sticks rather than my whole hand, I rest my hand on the back of the tower, it makes for sore fingers after a while, so it would be nice to have the option of using smaller joystick type of control, but thats just me...
All great feedback/commentary Larry - re: runtime, we've designed this for a specific use set/customer type for now (utilities with local operations and municipalities/local governments) - as the technology continues to progress, we'll be sure to keep everyone informed! Stay tuned!
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Eu kero mais não tenho 💰 muito linda nossa
How long will it take to charge?
Cheaper than diesel and more powerful
overnight
8h when empty on 240V outlet
What's the cost to charge it and where can it be charged on the job? Also, if it's quiet on a construction site, workers won't hear it coming which is dangerous.
Jack Sak I’m sure the beeper will be standard both ways.... and they said 90% ownership cost. And diesel vs KWH charging in the USA is about 40% cost. So if it cost $100 to fill your diesel how. It will cost $40 to charge. And any 240 outlet.
You think site workers won't hear this coming because the drivetrain is silent? Someone should really explain to you what friction is and how loose surfaces and weight amplify it's effects, which include noise.
Also, this obviously charges from the grid so how much it costs to charge is determined entirely by local electric costs. 90kwh at a typical cost of $0.10/kwh means from empty this thing should be under $10 to charge pretty much anywhere.
There are a multitude of noisy machines operating at construction sites. These machines just don't 'creep up on people.' The operators are to endure no-one gets hit.
And after 5 years you just need to replace the unit again. No place for the used battery or able to recycle.
Takes about two minutes to recharge the diesel model lol.
did you notice how they avoided doing any digging in ad very fishy
Do you really believe a company like Chase would produce a machine like this that doesn't work?
How would this do while working along and by gas lines in urban areas? I highly doubt I would want to be on this machine and all its electric equipment around gas leaks of any kind.
Shouldn't be any more risk than a machine powered by explosions and meant to ignite gas on purpose.
Think thru your concerns before sharing them or you'll be a concern troll like Scott. Don't be a Scott.
Scott - whether a diesel combustion engine or an electric vehicle, operators should follow established safety protocols around gas leaks no matter what type of machine it is.
@@examancer , you could only wish to be me. You are unnecessarily rude. I dig for utilities all the time and any time there is a gas release, all gas engines have to immediately shut down. Only Diesel engines are to be operated in a live gas release situation. I merely was questioning the feasibility of an electric powered Backhoe in that situation. There was zero reason for you to prove your need for drama through my sensible question.
Scott McQuarrie, why would a Diesel engine be able to run during a gas release? It is a combustion engine. If the gas gets to the intake it will run away or over rev and can cause a fire. A resurfacing project here in town had an asphalt mill (diesel powered) struck a gas service 2” deep, over reved caused a fire and burnt the expensive machine to scrap metal. No machine should be running near a gas release
I don't get it. Finding a plug every day to plug this is would suck. And if you forget, you lose a day's work.
You would probably get a guy to do it or put it in practice to plug it in or someone will get a earful
You already have to do daily greasing and other maintenance on your backhoe, how hard is it to add another step to ensure that it is plugged in before you go home?
Nao gostei desta gabine ai nao deveria ter um desaine melhor
:-D
Not sold!! The people that want electric backhoes are not the people that are running them!!
Diesel is the past
People who don't want electric backhoes will be the ones running from them.
What do you think people running them won't like?
False!! i know quite a few operators that want an EV and several more that are open to trying it out!
The people running backhoes are smart enough to want the most efficient and user-friendly equipment available. If I'm in a drag race I choose a Tesla P100D, not because it's electric but because I know it's going to wipe the floor with pretty much anything! Case makes AWESOME equipment, and I bet this is won't be a disappointment either.
Can't replace diesel powered backhoe
Thank you for your comment. The CASE 580 EV is specifically designed for certain utility and municipal applications - luckily, we're still manufacturing our diesel power units as well. You can see the full details on the CASE 580 EV here: www.casece.com/northamerica/en-us/resources/articles/media-case-unveils-project-zeus-580ev-first-fully-electric-backhoe-loader
Of course it can
So still need a generator on site to charge it every night. It's cool and all you'll never beat the power and instant torque of an electric vehicle. I hate all this emission crap talk when the carbon foot print from lithium mines and all the other crap it takes to make the battery has no benefit to the environment compared to a combustion vehicle. So emmision wise there is no benefit of an electric vehicle. I work construction and this wouldn't cut it, 8 hours of normal operation so that's probably under the best conditions. So realistically working it hard actuall run time. 3-5 maybe? Idk I think itd be a hard sell, work days carry from 6-18 maybe 20 hours a day sometimes who knows.
Maybe the fact that EVs don't need to idle can play to their advantage here, they're always on and ready, consume nothing and causing no pollution while doing so to boot, no rattles or noise from the motor either, meaning less fatigue from operation, and no noise complaints.
Just like an EV vehicle, charging from a generator is the worst case scenario. They will need grid access for best, least expensive charging option.
@buck wuk - I agree. It's not going to last at full power for 8 hours, and what about overtime or emergencies when the battery is dead? Also, a quiet machine is dangerous on a construction site. No one can hear it coming. And, I agree on the lithium mines.
I don't doubt that they will be useful in situations, in buildings/ confined spaces would be great. I'm just thinking realistically, I do mainly roads reconstruction/underground type stuff. The 2 we have, when they are on the job site they dont stop moving since they are a very useful machine(I hate them). Again though electric definitely has its benefits but the illusion that they are better for the environment is BS. The initial footprint from making the batteries and the thing nobody talks about is lithium mines straight up poison the ground. I guess atleast it's not the air right
You're so wrong with Li footprint vs diesel emission