Me? I think Henry suffered from a case of narcissism mixed with a dash of Yes Men. Henry was the spare and thus was supposed to go to the Church once Arthur had children of his own to secure the line. When Arthur died, Henry all the sudden became the heir and his upbringing went to Hell especially after his mother died giving birth to a sister (who also died). Daddy Dearest was deeply affected by losing both his eldest child and his wife and basically kept Henry in a gilded cage to protect him. Henry becomes King at 18 and he's a strapping young man and he's got a stable kingdom with plenty of gold in the royal coffers. He's also surrounded by Yes Men who tell him whatever he wants to hear and licks the royal boot to benefit themselves and their families. So here's this kid who wasn't thought to amount to much and kept isolated...and then all of the sudden he becomes rich, famous and has all these people telling him how special he is. Is it really any wonder he became a narcissistic and abusive tyrant?
I proved that each King of England from William the Conqueror to the present day are all related to their spouses, Henry VIII is related to all six wives
You are way off about Elizabeth of York. Because her parents were not closely related but her dad was extremely inbred being a descendant of John of John Gaunt, Edmund of Langley and Lionel of Antwerp. Of his great-grandparents they were a pair of brothers and their niece. It's all more distant but it's still there
Yes, and the shock of the accident is alleged to have caused his then wife, Anne Boleyn, to suffer a miscarriage, which probably contributed to her downfall and execution just a few months later.
It was rumoured that Edward IV's real father was not Richard, Duke of York, but an archer called Brayborne. This was fuelled by the fact that Edward was nothing like his father Richard, neither in appearance nor temper. He was also Henry VIII's grandfather and contemporaries spoke of Henry VIII looking very much like Edward, being tall and blond, and nothing like the Plantagenets. If so, that would have mixed the bloodline a little more....
In fact, Tony Robinson made a very interesting - and convincing - documentary about this. If it was true, the English throne would belong to the descendants of George of Clarence - yes, butt-of-Malmsey Clarence! They live in Australia. The head of the family was invited to Charles’ coronation, so they are recognised as family.
@@suebursztynski2530actually this isn’t true, because Cecily at the time was literally in mourning for her son’s death (he died in childhood), and there is little chance that a noblewoman like Cecily who would later have to prioritise her children’s survival, would have an affair with a man who would be considered at the time in terms of social class to be a “mere archer”. And yes Edward did have a simple christening, but that was because he was most likely born prematurely and in those cases back then they would baptise the baby as soon as possible, even if there was a high chance that the baby would die a few hours later.
I thought it was the jousting injury he got that made him really mad. He was probably never a terribly nice guy, but apparently his mood changed after he received an injury after a joust.
It happened while Anne Boleyn was pregnant for the last time. She found out, went into premature labor and had a stillborn son. Less than 5 months later she was executed.
US here; learned about Henry on my own time. Started my study of him at the age of ten, and it is my thirtieth birthday today, so quite a bit of my life.
I am a descendant of Elizabeth Woodville thru her son Thomas Grey. I am a descendant of her sister Katherine Woodville who married the 2nd Duke of Buckingham who was killed by by Richard III, she married Jasper Tudor, and had no children. My XN great grandfather was the 3rd Duke of Buckingham who put the crown on Henry VIII, he was later executed by Henry VIII for treason. Another XN great grandfather was Thomas Howard the uncle of Ann Boleyn. I am a descendant of nearly all siblings of Henry VIII wives, seems so wierd, having so many ancestors who were there and executed by Henry VIII.
I'm a descendant.of Mary Tudor (Henry VIII's sister) through the Greys, then Seymours, the Carfields, then Crookes (relatives of Dr Helkiah Crookes of Bedlam). Their tree is a tangled web. I've also found out that three of four great grandparents are several times over descendants of Edward I. O.o Two of those great grandparents also descend from Hywel Dda. So many people must be quite closely related...
the seymours held the lordship of caldicot.. cil di coed...casgwent* chepstow.. very much part of welsh history... its very very complex, as prince edmund crouchback,..edward I younger brother descendants,.. too is connected with *policy of marrying welsh royalty, nobilty, aristocracy, a very very tangled web... not sure if the greys & seymours are associated with him too ... check out @LITTLE KNOWLEDGE PODCAST...
I'm not descended from Mary Tudor (to my knowledge) but am doubly descended from her husband, King James IV - my father descends from him and one of his acknowledged mistresses; my mother descends from him and another mistress LOL
@@frankhooper7871 do you mean, queen magaret nee tudor, stewart, of scots... there was at least 2 queen mary tudors... one queen consort of france, the younger sister of henry 8th who had children... the other, her neice: queen regnant of england & queen consort of spain etc as wife of king philip of spain...they had no children... her other neice* ELIZABETH I tudor ascended the throne, she also had over 10 relatives, but no children then her great nephew* James VI 6th or I of england, wales & ireland... virtually everyone was related to henry 7th or elizabeth of york, edward IV of york or and edward III , some through many different lines..
@@jardon8636 James VI of Scots & I of England and Ireland was Margaret Tudors great grandson through both of his parents not her great nephew. James and Elizabeth were double first cousins twice removed
@@pedanticradiator1491 : elizabeth I was the daughter of henry VIII, queen magaret tudor was elizabeth I aunty, her son was KING JAMES V STEWART of Scots... his wife was queen maire de guise, consort and later regent,, as depicted in the starz series reign, also another cousin of both elizabeth I and king james V and VI of scots,., was lettice knollys,, the countess of leicester and looked a lot like elizabeth I the descendants of mary boleyn,,,, the mistress and distant cousin of henry VIII , via both henry I and edward I blood lines... so yes you are quite right, that queen magaret tudor of scots, great grandson via both of his parents and the queen elizabeth of york connection, various lines from king robert II, queen joan beaufourt of scots... and most noblity and royalty are related, sometimes more than twice over...
Elizabeth Woodville was a descendant of King Henry III of England. Elizabeth Woodville --> Jacquetta of Luxembourg --> Peter I, Count of Saint-Pol --> John, Lord Bouvoir --> Mahaut of Châtillon --> John I, Count of Saint-Pol --> Marie of Brittany --> Beatrice of England --> Henry III, King of England. For reference the (patrilineal) line of Edward IV: Edward IV, King of England --> Richard Plantagenet-York, 3rd Duke of York --> Richard Plantagenet-York, 3rd Earl of Cambridge --> Edmund of Langley, 1st Duke of York --> Edward III, King of England --> Edward II, King of England --> Edward I, King of England --> Henry III, King of England Not closely related, but still interesting I think.
King Henry VIII was my 14th great grand uncle as l am descended from his sister Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland through her illegitimate or bastard grandson John Stuart, the Prior of Clodingham.
Not gonna lie, this was pretty surprising to me ^^ Also I'm not from the UK and Henry VII was the only king we learned about in english class XD All the other royal stuff we learned about in German class because the teacher was also an english teacher and made us read Maria Steward. I forgot most most of what I knew but I could draw quiet a big part of her family tree from memory :D Still think the history of kings and queens is fascinating and it might be an unpopular opinion, but knowing that almost every king and queen around europe were related, i like to imagine that all the wars were pretty much a big old family feud. Also no wonder George R² Martin was inspired by the war of the roses :D
Interesting. You could have added that Edward IV (the father of Elizabeth of York) was descended from Edward III three times. His father Richard of York was descended from Lionel, the second son of Edward III and Edmund of York the youngest son, as well as his mother being descended from John of Gaunt (Edward III's third son). So Edward IV was quite inbred himself. Which means that Henry VIII was descended from Edward III 4 times, twice via John of Gaunt.
Liked and subscribed! I think it's important to remember that populations were small back then and so consanguinity was a lot more common than now - especially when inheriting and consolodating land and property was concerned. But Henry's madness is, I truly believe, one of the classic results of head injury. In his case, what appears to be a concussion during a joust. I had a best friend in high school years ago who - as we all did back then - was playing hockey without a helmet (ice hockey) and fell and slammed his head. He was diagnosed with concussion and over the months went from a warm and loyal and funny friend to a dark, brooding and paranoid person who turned on me. Only now, thanks to modern medical technology, do we have a clear idea of the damage a concussion can cause to a young brain. Prior to that jousting incident Henry had been a fun-loving, outgoing and trusting person who was very kind and caring towards women.
What about the theory that Edward 4th might have been illegitimate? There was a document found in a church in France that father on paper was away during the time he would have been conceived. The rumor was his mother had an affair with an archer.
i think this was debunked by philippa langley.. the celebrity historian that found richard III in a car park, when many told her , why even bother.. the main issue is french propaganda, the house of valois were rivals and associated with the house of lancaster.. catherine of valois , was lancastrian queen dowager of england.. her daughter in law was queen magreite of anjou, the wife of Henry 6th of lancaster... .. another relative was duchess isabella of aviz, portugal & a lancastrian duchess consort of burgundy, and her son charles the bold DUKE OF BURGUNDY...and her daughter in law: magret duchess of york & burgundy,, talk about a complex and messy family tree,... The state and duchy of Burgundy were poltically rivals to the kingdom of france & def involved in the war of the roses, its just that many historians, never give them much air time or a second glance...
@@gerrimilner9448 I'm sure the queens in might have an affairs to keep their position. Women were the ones blamed if no heir was born. Catherine The Great might have done that.
I read a biography of Edward's mother Cecily which pretty much debunked the idea. Both Cecily and Richard were living in Northern France at the time of Edward's conception
I don't know where you get that Catherine of Valois and John Beaufort were first cousins. Also Henry 7 and Elizabeth were more than just 3rd cousins, that was their closest and most recent connection. On the York side, there was also a lot of cousin on cousin stuff. Also the Catherine of Valois (Henry's side) was probably related to Elizabeth Woodville through her French connection; her mother was a daughter of the Duke of Luxembourg. And much more inbreeding before that.
There is a theory that Henry VIII was Kell positive, a rare blood type that was inherited matrilineally through his great-grandmother Jacquetta of Luxembourg. About nine percent of the population has this blood type. It would have affected Henry two ways. The first has to do with fertility. The gene does not affect female fertility, but it does affect male fertility, if his partner is Kell negative (91% probability). The problem is similar to an Rh positive father, Rh negative mother. Each conception has a 50% probability of being Kell positive. The first Kell positive baby is normal, but exposure to the Kell antigen to the mother's bloodstream causes her to develop antibodies. For subsequent Kell positive conceptions, these antigens can cross the placental barrier and could cause miscarriages and stillbirths, especially in the age before modern medicine. Secondly, males who are Kell positive are prone to develop McLeod Syndrome, a degenerative disorder that affects the blood, brains, peripheral nerves, muscles and heart. The appearance of Henry's symptoms is consistent with McLeod Syndrome.
Supposedly I’m directly descended from Mary Queen of Scots and a previous marriage she had to archibald Douglas who had one daughter, Margaret Douglas. She had a child with a Howard who then was locked in the Tower of London by Henry VIII. Oddly enough I’m descended from these guys on a female line and my female ancestor married another Howard in America, and as of right now I don’t know where the Howard came from. Supposedly he was directly descended from Thomas IV Howard Duke of Norfolk but there is no official record of his son Francis, who is the next direct ancestor. But the link to the tudors from that other Howard line is kinda cool my guess. This resulted in the name Howard being in my family until my great grandmother was married in the 20th century
Mary, Queen of Scots had 3 husbands but none of them were Archibald Douglas. Her grandmother Margaret Tudor married Douglas whose daughter also called Margaret was the mother of Mary's 2nd husband Henry Stewart/Stuart, Lord Darnley. Margaret Tudor was Henry VIII 's sister whose first husband was King James IV of Scots. Margaret Douglas did marry Thomas Howard who was imprisoned in the Tower but I don't believe they had any children. Margaret's children came from her 2nd marriage to Mathew Stewart, Earl of Lennox. Mary, Queen of Scots only ever had 1 child- King James VI of Scots and I of England and Ireland
The direct McAlpine line died out with Alexander III of Scots the various royal houses to reign over Scotland since are descended from them but through female lines, the last legitimate male Plantagenet died in the 16th century though there are many thousands of descendants of the family still living today
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can you explain how Catherine of Valois is related to John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset you claim that they are 1st cousins. But you don't show the connection and I know for a fact that they weren't 1st cousins so why are you spreading misinfomation. John's great grandmother was Joan of Valois who was the half sister to Catherine's great grandmother Isabella of Valois that would make them 3nd half cousins.
nathan amin, the tudor welsh historian, has a new book,,, 2024... to remove, the myth of the unremarkable or so called common tudors of so called illegitmate or low birth... labels, misconceptions or outright bias, against the tudor dynasty that started in 1289 not 1485.. the dynasty were from welsh nobility, descendants from king rhodri mawr...the great of wales..., also of the high king of ireland : Brian Boru... and their direct ancestors were Ednyfed Fychan* Lord Edward Vaughan.. a celebrity magnate, the chief minister of Prince Llewellyn the Great.. & King Rhys tewdar of deuharbarth... of course they had no direct connection to William the conqueror , they could claim to be a older native dynasty than that of the house of plantagenet... who was viewed in the chronicles of the princes as a foreign illegitmate baron , a relative of king rollo* ( illegitmatcy was never a major issue for the welsh... unlike the normans*, also equal inheritance *) who eventually conquered england, whos relative queen emma was consort and regent to canute and mother of edward the confesor of the anglo saxon kings... the other totally unkown or forgotten genalogy , is that king edward IV of york... & his daughter queen elizabeth of york were descendants of Elen ferch Llywelyn LADY HELEN , daughter of Llewellyn the GREAT of Wales... Countess of Huntingdon and Chester The arms of the dynasty of Aberffraw of Gwynedd were traditionally first used by Elen's grandfather, Lord Iorwerth Drwyndwn. Elen ferch Llywelyn (c. 1207 - 1253) was the daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd in North Wales by Joan, Lady of Wales, daughter of King John of England. also because of the mortimer dynasty, premier magnates... ancestors of the HOUSE OF YORK... another ancestor appears.. this makes it messy and complex.. her sister. Gwladus Ddu, ("Gwladus the Dark Eyes"), full name Gwladus ferch Llywelyn (died 1251) was a Welsh noblewoman who was a daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd and Joan Plantagenet, a daughter of John, King of England. She married two Marcher lords. the MORTIMER HISTORY SOCIETY (channel, researches large volumes, anne mortimer is verified as ancestress of the house of york & therefore HENRY 8TH,,, who had welsh ancestry on both sides of his family..., not just plantagent blood via mater rex, countess magaret beaufourt of richmond, regent of england... also the never widely researched ancestry of queen consort & dowager : catherine of valois... who is ancestor of the tudors... therefore there would be some european blood.. in the royal dynasty of the tudors, not just welsh or french.. Isabeau of Bavaria (or Isabelle; also Elisabeth of Bavaria-Ingolstadt; Queen of France from 1385 to 1422. House of Wittelsbach as the only daughter of Duke Stephen III of Bavaria-Ingolstadt and Taddea Visconti of Milan... the residence in munich, still survives today, as a wittelsbach royal museum, as dukes & kings of bavaria* bayern,.... if you go even further back, house of visconti,..lords and dukes of milan.. biggest rivals to the house of della tore.. Lucia Visconti (c. 1380 -1424) was a Milanese aristocrat who was the Countess of Kent by marriage from 1407 to 1424, she definetly needs her own video... its the medieval link between england and milan.,... House of Doria ( de filiis Auriae), "the sons of Auria", d'Oria, is an old and extremely wealthy Genoese family who played a major role in the history of the Republic of Genoa and in Italy, from the 12th century to the 16th century, very big rivals to the republic of venice* venizia... NATHEN AMIN,, in his book about HENRY VII, the son of prohecy will include a more detailed genalogy..., as poor queen dowager catherine of valois, let alone her mother queen isabeau nee witteslbach valois.. are never talked about as part of british history, like some unkown or forgotten ancestors..., only very recently was the house of wydville, woodville debunked as anything but a common dynasty, as jacqueta was a dowager duchess from the royal house of luxembourg...& the kingdom of naples... both philippa gregory & philippa langley have genalogy in depth..., Jacquetta & queen elizabeth wydville, woodville...were descendants of Simon de Montfort, 6th Earl of Leicester and Eleanor of England (daughter of King John of England and Queen Isabella of Angouleme... also their celebrity ancestor Louis VI Capet: le Gros) or the Fighter le Batailleur), was King of the Franks from 1108 to 1137. Louis made a lasting contribution to centralizing the institutions of royal power. He spent much of his twenty-nine-year reign fighting either the "robber barons" who plagued the Ile de France & Henry I of England for his continental possession of Normandy, he did not consider Henry of Normandy is equal., as william the bastard a baron of normandy become king of england, and henry I was not his eldest child or rightful heir, many in france considered robert curthouse and others,, the english throne was seized, out of the hands of robert curthouse into henry beauclerc., later robert curthouse was placed as a royal relative & prisoner in cardiff castle... source the frankish chronicle of paris... the house of Capet, were mighty rivals to the House of Normandy & later Plantagnet
Never got the obsession with Henry VIII certainly psychopathic after his accident. Vicious, cruel, militarily unsuccessful, a financial car crash with money, destroyer of monasteries for personal greed, treacherous to those who served him who he frequently murdered the only positive thing he ever did was father Queen Elizabeth 1. I find Edward IV a much more interesting figure a charismatic leader, hugely militarily successful, a highly successful king who trod that path in incredibly difficult times, he even married for love and only ever made one mistake dying too young to secure the succession for his poor son.
Henry the eightf..... please pronounce th...... arfer, muver, elizabef, Henry forf, fif, sevenf. Come on. You talk nice but please, pronunciation is still important.
It’s a regional accent. We have dozens of them and they indicate where in the UK we are from. There is no set British accent and we shouldn’t insist that everyone sounds the same. It’s a feature of his accent, not a flaw.
Me? I think Henry suffered from a case of narcissism mixed with a dash of Yes Men.
Henry was the spare and thus was supposed to go to the Church once Arthur had children of his own to secure the line. When Arthur died, Henry all the sudden became the heir and his upbringing went to Hell especially after his mother died giving birth to a sister (who also died). Daddy Dearest was deeply affected by losing both his eldest child and his wife and basically kept Henry in a gilded cage to protect him.
Henry becomes King at 18 and he's a strapping young man and he's got a stable kingdom with plenty of gold in the royal coffers. He's also surrounded by Yes Men who tell him whatever he wants to hear and licks the royal boot to benefit themselves and their families.
So here's this kid who wasn't thought to amount to much and kept isolated...and then all of the sudden he becomes rich, famous and has all these people telling him how special he is. Is it really any wonder he became a narcissistic and abusive tyrant?
I agree
I proved that each King of England from William the Conqueror to the present day are all related to their spouses, Henry VIII is related to all six wives
Then whose the most recent common ancestor to all of them
You are way off about Elizabeth of York. Because her parents were not closely related but her dad was extremely inbred being a descendant of John of John Gaunt, Edmund of Langley and Lionel of Antwerp.
Of his great-grandparents they were a pair of brothers and their niece. It's all more distant but it's still there
But how were they related to each other? Maternal or paternal side?
@@CJMappingEdward I
All white people are related to Charlemagne, so of course they’re related.
I still think that head injury he suffered started him on the long road to metal health problems.
Yes, the josting fall sent him into a coma. I agree with you. ❤
yup he was unconscious for hours
@@linniem5982 It's a shame he ruined such a beautiful day by waking.
@@terry92104 I’m sure it didn’t help things. A nasty head injury today can change a person’s personality.
Henry VIII had a remarkably diverse gene pool for a royal at the time.
That´s what I was thinking, to too bad at all really, Elizabeth of York and Henry VII were fairly distantly related.
His grandmother was a commoner so it make sense.
Didn’t he suffer a head injury in a jousting match at some point?
He did
@@janeyrevanescence12 That could cause insanity
He was supposedly unconscious for 2 hours after the accident.
@@joan-en8uy Mystery solved
Yes, and the shock of the accident is alleged to have caused his then wife, Anne Boleyn, to suffer a miscarriage, which probably contributed to her downfall and execution just a few months later.
It was rumoured that Edward IV's real father was not Richard, Duke of York, but an archer called Brayborne. This was fuelled by the fact that Edward was nothing like his father Richard, neither in appearance nor temper. He was also Henry VIII's grandfather and contemporaries spoke of Henry VIII looking very much like Edward, being tall and blond, and nothing like the Plantagenets. If so, that would have mixed the bloodline a little more....
In fact, Tony Robinson made a very interesting - and convincing - documentary about this. If it was true, the English throne would belong to the descendants of George of Clarence - yes, butt-of-Malmsey Clarence! They live in Australia. The head of the family was invited to Charles’ coronation, so they are recognised as family.
@@suebursztynski2530actually this isn’t true, because Cecily at the time was literally in mourning for her son’s death (he died in childhood), and there is little chance that a noblewoman like Cecily who would later have to prioritise her children’s survival, would have an affair with a man who would be considered at the time in terms of social class to be a “mere archer”. And yes Edward did have a simple christening, but that was because he was most likely born prematurely and in those cases back then they would baptise the baby as soon as possible, even if there was a high chance that the baby would die a few hours later.
I thought it was the jousting injury he got that made him really mad. He was probably never a terribly nice guy, but apparently his mood changed after he received an injury after a joust.
It happened while Anne Boleyn was pregnant for the last time. She found out, went into premature labor and had a stillborn son. Less than 5 months later she was executed.
We are all related, because we’re all human. Once you get below about 25% consanguinity, genetic problems are unlikely to show up.
US here; learned about Henry on my own time. Started my study of him at the age of ten, and it is my thirtieth birthday today, so quite a bit of my life.
Not that much Most medieval rulers weren't inbred it was the early modern rulers who were extremely inbred
Depends on the dynasty, the Trastamara´s were quite inbred
Funny enough I was just wondering about how related Henry 7 and Elizabeth of York were. So they were third cousins.
That’s not too closely related.
@@ferretyluv that’s what I thought. Honestly it could have been worse (looks at Phillip the second).
I am a descendant of Elizabeth Woodville thru her son Thomas Grey. I am a descendant of her sister Katherine Woodville who married the 2nd Duke of Buckingham who was killed by by Richard III, she married Jasper Tudor, and had no children. My XN great grandfather was the 3rd Duke of Buckingham who put the crown on Henry VIII, he was later executed by Henry VIII for treason. Another XN great grandfather was Thomas Howard the uncle of Ann Boleyn. I am a descendant of nearly all siblings of Henry VIII wives, seems so wierd, having so many ancestors who were there and executed by Henry VIII.
@@jameshalley9763 still that cools what a rich family history. I can’t only claim to be a descendent of French nobility.
I'm a descendant.of Mary Tudor (Henry VIII's sister) through the Greys, then Seymours, the Carfields, then Crookes (relatives of Dr Helkiah Crookes of Bedlam). Their tree is a tangled web.
I've also found out that three of four great grandparents are several times over descendants of Edward I. O.o
Two of those great grandparents also descend from Hywel Dda.
So many people must be quite closely related...
the seymours held
the lordship of caldicot.. cil di coed...casgwent* chepstow..
very much part of welsh history...
its very very complex, as prince edmund crouchback,..edward I younger brother descendants,..
too is connected with *policy of marrying welsh royalty, nobilty, aristocracy, a very very tangled web...
not sure if the greys & seymours are associated with him too ...
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@LITTLE KNOWLEDGE PODCAST...
I'm not descended from Mary Tudor (to my knowledge) but am doubly descended from her husband, King James IV - my father descends from him and one of his acknowledged mistresses; my mother descends from him and another mistress LOL
@@frankhooper7871 do you mean,
queen magaret nee tudor, stewart, of scots...
there was at least 2 queen mary tudors...
one queen consort of france, the younger sister of henry 8th who had children...
the other, her neice: queen regnant of england & queen consort of spain etc as wife of king philip of spain...they had no children...
her other neice* ELIZABETH I tudor ascended the throne, she also had over 10 relatives, but no children then her great nephew* James VI 6th or I of england, wales & ireland...
virtually everyone was related to henry 7th or elizabeth of york, edward IV of york or and edward III , some through many different lines..
@@jardon8636 James VI of Scots & I of England and Ireland was Margaret Tudors great grandson through both of his parents not her great nephew. James and Elizabeth were double first cousins twice removed
@@pedanticradiator1491 : elizabeth I was the daughter of henry VIII, queen magaret tudor was elizabeth I aunty, her son was KING JAMES V STEWART of Scots...
his wife was
queen maire de guise, consort and later regent,, as depicted in the starz series reign,
also another cousin of both elizabeth I and king james V and VI of scots,.,
was lettice knollys,, the countess of leicester and looked a lot like elizabeth I
the descendants of mary boleyn,,,, the mistress and distant cousin of henry VIII , via both henry I and edward I blood lines...
so yes you are quite right, that queen magaret tudor of scots, great grandson via both of his parents and the queen elizabeth of york connection,
various lines from king robert II, queen joan beaufourt of scots...
and most noblity and royalty are related, sometimes more than twice over...
He was in constant agony after a justing accident, for many years. This probably accounts for hie personality change halfway through his life.
Elizabeth Woodville was a descendant of King Henry III of England. Elizabeth Woodville --> Jacquetta of Luxembourg --> Peter I, Count of Saint-Pol --> John, Lord Bouvoir --> Mahaut of Châtillon --> John I, Count of Saint-Pol --> Marie of Brittany --> Beatrice of England --> Henry III, King of England.
For reference the (patrilineal) line of Edward IV:
Edward IV, King of England --> Richard Plantagenet-York, 3rd Duke of York --> Richard Plantagenet-York, 3rd Earl of Cambridge --> Edmund of Langley, 1st Duke of York --> Edward III, King of England --> Edward II, King of England --> Edward I, King of England --> Henry III, King of England
Not closely related, but still interesting I think.
To quote OverSimplified
'MARY! We're all inbred.'
xD
If Henry viii had any mental illness, it probably came from his Valois side.
King Henry VIII was my 14th great grand uncle as l am descended from his sister Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland through her illegitimate or bastard grandson John Stuart, the Prior of Clodingham.
Not gonna lie, this was pretty surprising to me ^^
Also I'm not from the UK and Henry VII was the only king we learned about in english class XD All the other royal stuff we learned about in German class because the teacher was also an english teacher and made us read Maria Steward. I forgot most most of what I knew but I could draw quiet a big part of her family tree from memory :D Still think the history of kings and queens is fascinating and it might be an unpopular opinion, but knowing that almost every king and queen around europe were related, i like to imagine that all the wars were pretty much a big old family feud. Also no wonder George R² Martin was inspired by the war of the roses :D
Love your work, I know that these sort of videos take a lot of research, but they're very appropriated. Keep it up! ❤
Henry VIII and his first wife Catherine of Aragon were also cousins. And of course, Mary I and her husband King Phillip of Spain were first cousins.
Interesting. You could have added that Edward IV (the father of Elizabeth of York) was descended from Edward III three times. His father Richard of York was descended from Lionel, the second son of Edward III and Edmund of York the youngest son, as well as his mother being descended from John of Gaunt (Edward III's third son). So Edward IV was quite inbred himself.
Which means that Henry VIII was descended from Edward III 4 times, twice via John of Gaunt.
Liked and subscribed! I think it's important to remember that populations were small back then and so consanguinity was a lot more common than now - especially when inheriting and consolodating land and property was concerned. But Henry's madness is, I truly believe, one of the classic results of head injury. In his case, what appears to be a concussion during a joust. I had a best friend in high school years ago who - as we all did back then - was playing hockey without a helmet (ice hockey) and fell and slammed his head. He was diagnosed with concussion and over the months went from a warm and loyal and funny friend to a dark, brooding and paranoid person who turned on me. Only now, thanks to modern medical technology, do we have a clear idea of the damage a concussion can cause to a young brain. Prior to that jousting incident Henry had been a fun-loving, outgoing and trusting person who was very kind and caring towards women.
What about the theory that Edward 4th might have been illegitimate? There was a document found in a church in France that father on paper was away during the time he would have been conceived. The rumor was his mother had an affair with an archer.
i think this was debunked by philippa langley.. the celebrity historian that found richard III in a car park,
when many told her , why even bother..
the main issue is french propaganda, the house of valois were rivals and associated with the house of lancaster..
catherine of valois , was lancastrian queen dowager of england..
her daughter in law was
queen magreite of anjou, the wife of Henry 6th of lancaster... ..
another relative was duchess isabella of aviz, portugal & a lancastrian duchess consort of burgundy,
and her son charles the bold DUKE OF BURGUNDY...and her daughter in law: magret duchess of york & burgundy,,
talk about a complex and messy family tree,...
The state and duchy of Burgundy were poltically rivals to the kingdom of france & def involved in the war of the roses,
its just that many historians, never give them much air time or a second glance...
i do think the odd affair child has saved many royal families from the hatsberg fate
@@gerrimilner9448 I'm sure the queens in might have an affairs to keep their position. Women were the ones blamed if no heir was born. Catherine The Great might have done that.
@@rebellonedog i think she did! Katherine Howard was probably trying to conceive to please the limp Henry, but got caught.
I read a biography of Edward's mother Cecily which pretty much debunked the idea. Both Cecily and Richard were living in Northern France at the time of Edward's conception
Wasn't there a slight chance that Edward IV was distantly related?
Didn't Henry VIII have 2 sisters and one brother?
3 sisters one died in infancy
I don't know where you get that Catherine of Valois and John Beaufort were first cousins. Also Henry 7 and Elizabeth were more than just 3rd cousins, that was their closest and most recent connection.
On the York side, there was also a lot of cousin on cousin stuff. Also the Catherine of Valois (Henry's side) was probably related to Elizabeth Woodville through her French connection; her mother was a daughter of the Duke of Luxembourg. And much more inbreeding before that.
great as always.
There is a theory that Henry VIII was Kell positive, a rare blood type that was inherited matrilineally through his great-grandmother Jacquetta of Luxembourg. About nine percent of the population has this blood type. It would have affected Henry two ways. The first has to do with fertility. The gene does not affect female fertility, but it does affect male fertility, if his partner is Kell negative (91% probability). The problem is similar to an Rh positive father, Rh negative mother. Each conception has a 50% probability of being Kell positive. The first Kell positive baby is normal, but exposure to the Kell antigen to the mother's bloodstream causes her to develop antibodies. For subsequent Kell positive conceptions, these antigens can cross the placental barrier and could cause miscarriages and stillbirths, especially in the age before modern medicine.
Secondly, males who are Kell positive are prone to develop McLeod Syndrome, a degenerative disorder that affects the blood, brains, peripheral nerves, muscles and heart. The appearance of Henry's symptoms is consistent with McLeod Syndrome.
Supposedly I’m directly descended from Mary Queen of Scots and a previous marriage she had to archibald Douglas who had one daughter, Margaret Douglas. She had a child with a Howard who then was locked in the Tower of London by Henry VIII. Oddly enough I’m descended from these guys on a female line and my female ancestor married another Howard in America, and as of right now I don’t know where the Howard came from. Supposedly he was directly descended from Thomas IV Howard Duke of Norfolk but there is no official record of his son Francis, who is the next direct ancestor. But the link to the tudors from that other Howard line is kinda cool my guess. This resulted in the name Howard being in my family until my great grandmother was married in the 20th century
Mary, Queen of Scots had 3 husbands but none of them were Archibald Douglas. Her grandmother Margaret Tudor married Douglas whose daughter also called Margaret was the mother of Mary's 2nd husband Henry Stewart/Stuart, Lord Darnley. Margaret Tudor was Henry VIII 's sister whose first husband was King James IV of Scots. Margaret Douglas did marry Thomas Howard who was imprisoned in the Tower but I don't believe they had any children. Margaret's children came from her 2nd marriage to Mathew Stewart, Earl of Lennox. Mary, Queen of Scots only ever had 1 child- King James VI of Scots and I of England and Ireland
This was an interesting video. Thank you.
so basically, he was his own cousin.
Henry the 8th was alot like Phineas Gage
For a royal family, all concerned had very low inbreeding.
I mean, as the descendant of Henry 7th , I can say he married her because he was illegitimate and wanted to legitimise his rule
You lost me at hello.
He waited at Deal castle for one of his wives.. was there the other day.
I didn't understand the part about Catherine of Valois.
Where is the Platagent line of kngs now. And the line of kongs from Kenneth Macalpin.
The direct McAlpine line died out with Alexander III of Scots the various royal houses to reign over Scotland since are descended from them but through female lines, the last legitimate male Plantagenet died in the 16th century though there are many thousands of descendants of the family still living today
Your video is so quiet I was interested to watch it but if you can’t even give your audience the courtesy of adjusting your audio I can’t even be bothered to turn my volume up 20% and give you the view 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
such Henry VIII hate, sad
can you explain how Catherine of Valois is related to John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset you claim that they are 1st cousins. But you don't show the connection and I know for a fact that they weren't 1st cousins so why are you spreading misinfomation.
John's great grandmother was Joan of Valois who was the half sister to Catherine's great grandmother Isabella of Valois that would make them 3nd half cousins.
nathan amin,
the tudor welsh historian,
has a new book,,,
2024...
to remove, the myth of the unremarkable or so called common tudors of so called illegitmate or low birth...
labels, misconceptions or outright bias, against the tudor dynasty that started in 1289 not 1485..
the dynasty were from welsh nobility, descendants from king rhodri mawr...the great of wales...,
also of the high king of ireland : Brian Boru...
and their direct ancestors were Ednyfed Fychan* Lord Edward Vaughan.. a celebrity magnate, the chief minister of Prince Llewellyn the Great.. & King Rhys tewdar of deuharbarth...
of course they had no direct connection to William the conqueror , they could claim to be a older native dynasty than that of the house of plantagenet...
who was viewed in the chronicles of the princes as a foreign illegitmate baron , a relative of king rollo* ( illegitmatcy was never a major issue for the welsh... unlike the normans*, also equal inheritance *)
who eventually conquered england, whos relative queen emma was consort and regent to canute and mother of edward the confesor of the anglo saxon kings...
the other totally unkown or forgotten genalogy , is that
king edward IV of york... & his daughter
queen elizabeth of york were descendants of
Elen ferch Llywelyn
LADY HELEN , daughter of Llewellyn the GREAT of Wales...
Countess of Huntingdon and Chester
The arms of the dynasty of Aberffraw of Gwynedd were traditionally first used by Elen's grandfather, Lord Iorwerth Drwyndwn.
Elen ferch Llywelyn (c. 1207 - 1253) was the daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd in North Wales by Joan, Lady of Wales, daughter of King John of England.
also because of the mortimer dynasty, premier magnates... ancestors of the HOUSE OF YORK...
another ancestor appears..
this makes it messy and complex..
her sister.
Gwladus Ddu, ("Gwladus the Dark Eyes"), full name Gwladus ferch Llywelyn (died 1251) was a Welsh noblewoman who was a daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd and Joan Plantagenet, a daughter of John, King of England. She married two Marcher lords.
the MORTIMER HISTORY SOCIETY (channel, researches large volumes, anne mortimer is verified as ancestress of the house of york & therefore HENRY 8TH,,,
who had welsh ancestry on both sides of his family...,
not just plantagent blood via mater rex, countess magaret beaufourt of richmond, regent of england...
also the never widely researched ancestry of queen consort & dowager : catherine of valois...
who is ancestor of the tudors...
therefore there would be some european blood..
in the royal dynasty of the tudors, not just welsh or french..
Isabeau of Bavaria (or Isabelle; also Elisabeth of Bavaria-Ingolstadt; Queen of France from 1385 to 1422.
House of Wittelsbach as the only daughter of Duke Stephen III of Bavaria-Ingolstadt and Taddea Visconti of Milan...
the residence in munich, still survives today, as a wittelsbach royal museum, as dukes & kings of bavaria* bayern,....
if you go even further back,
house of visconti,..lords and dukes of milan..
biggest rivals to the house of della tore..
Lucia Visconti (c. 1380 -1424) was a Milanese aristocrat who was the Countess of Kent by marriage from 1407 to 1424,
she definetly needs her own video... its the medieval link between england and milan.,...
House of Doria ( de filiis Auriae), "the sons of Auria", d'Oria, is an old and extremely wealthy Genoese family who played a major role in the history of the Republic of Genoa and in Italy, from the 12th century to the 16th century, very big rivals to the republic of venice* venizia...
NATHEN AMIN,,
in his book about HENRY VII, the son of prohecy will include a more detailed genalogy...,
as poor queen dowager catherine of valois, let alone her mother queen isabeau nee witteslbach valois.. are never talked about as part of british history,
like some unkown or forgotten ancestors...,
only very recently was the house of wydville, woodville debunked as anything but a common dynasty, as jacqueta was a dowager duchess from the royal house of luxembourg...& the kingdom of naples...
both philippa gregory & philippa langley have genalogy in depth...,
Jacquetta & queen elizabeth wydville, woodville...were descendants of Simon de Montfort, 6th Earl of Leicester and Eleanor of England (daughter of King John of England and Queen Isabella of Angouleme...
also their celebrity ancestor
Louis VI Capet: le Gros) or the Fighter le Batailleur), was King of the Franks from 1108 to 1137.
Louis made a lasting contribution to centralizing the institutions of royal power.
He spent much of his twenty-nine-year reign fighting either the "robber barons" who plagued the Ile de France &
Henry I of England for his continental possession of Normandy, he did not consider Henry of Normandy is equal.,
as william the bastard a baron of normandy become king of england, and henry I was not his eldest child or rightful heir, many in france considered robert curthouse and others,,
the english throne was seized, out of the hands of robert curthouse into henry beauclerc.,
later robert curthouse was placed as a royal relative & prisoner in cardiff castle... source the frankish chronicle of paris...
the house of Capet, were mighty rivals to the House of Normandy & later Plantagnet
His paternal grandfather was illegitimate
Never getting this time back.😒
first cousins?
Never got the obsession with Henry VIII certainly psychopathic after his accident. Vicious, cruel, militarily unsuccessful, a financial car crash with money, destroyer of monasteries for personal greed, treacherous to those who served him who he frequently murdered the only positive thing he ever did was father Queen Elizabeth 1.
I find Edward IV a much more interesting figure a charismatic leader, hugely militarily successful, a highly successful king who trod that path in incredibly difficult times, he even married for love and only ever made one mistake dying too young to secure the succession for his poor son.
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Henry the eightf..... please pronounce th...... arfer, muver, elizabef, Henry forf, fif, sevenf. Come on. You talk nice but please, pronunciation is still important.
He's from the UK. They pronounce things differently there
It’s a regional accent. We have dozens of them and they indicate where in the UK we are from. There is no set British accent and we shouldn’t insist that everyone sounds the same. It’s a feature of his accent, not a flaw.
he's just got a lisp, not the biggest deal
@@bobbins9002I feel so offended😢
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We learned about Henry VIII but that was in the 1980s and honors/AP classes so not sure everyone in the US did.