as a casual viewer to cod and the flank it always warm my heart to see youtube recommend the flank right away always clicking this thanks zoomaa and co you guys rock
I hear you but at what point do we stop gassing past achievements and look at their actual ability in recent years and come to the conclusion that they aren’t good enough. Look at Arcitys. I love the guy as a person but I don’t think he has long left competing, especially after his brother recently retired
@@recovery- I would love to see him back on optic Texas but I really don’t wanna let Kenny go he’s been good for this team and I don’t see them getting rid of dashy but who knows 🤷🏻♂️
One thing thats pretty cool about the esports world cup for the scene as a whole which we've never seen before is that we kinda get 2 roster mania's between seasons now. There's the initial rostermania of teams blowing it up to build their ESWC roster that we're seeing now, and then any teams that don't do well at ESWC will inevitably blow it up again before BO6
Coming from someone who’s played high level paintball…. It also is not allowed in the Olympics because you are shooting at eachother. They already have attempted to have it in the Olympics, so overall it’s just the shooting aspect they don’t allow.
when Formal came back to Halo in Infinite he started playing on top12 teams for months until he got a spot in Optic, I think playing in a top12 team would be fine with him as long as he likes the game and he improves
Only thing that makes sense for optic if formal come back is to drop pred kenny is more valuable and can play sub with shozzy and dashy as flexs or ar with formal
If Formal was to really come back with what we know now it'd probably be to a team like rokkr. Formal and Gunless have played together before. Plus lynz and some cracked challengers sub player is like the only realistic thing I could see
The logic of Karma being able to go straight to coaching OpTic after not coaching a single team is interesting… Mans been apart of OpTic for a long time. He was gonna coach OpTic if he felt like coaching, no matter what. They weren’t just gonna tell him no
@@kronicassault1374Breh when niggys aren’t making the right plays it’s up to the coach to call ppl out and set the format for how each map should be played for each role not Kenny. It’s like 60%-70% on Karma rn.
@@ImBrockatron Karma was NOT smarter than Rambo. And just stop dude. He was the worst player on that optic team. Why do you think he did the fundamentals? Because the team wasn’t as good with him in any of the other 3 roles switching any of them. You think they didn’t try that shit multiple times? Karma was a great player but hella fucking overrated dude. I WATCHED back then and I remember the games. Karma costed them MANY times because he couldn’t get kills in his role vs faze and many other teams. Yes I’m blaming him for this partially. He’s the coach? All you can say is “It’s karma bro”
I bet you if formal and Scump want to play, optic will have 2 teams like faze used to, especially with changes to the cap structure after activision refuned and removed all buy in
Maybe if they loan formal out they could drop insight for formal on Toronto? Envoy and formal have teamed and maybe im wrong but insight is the worst on ultra.
just an afterthought but what if Formal is referring to a possible OpTic nation challengers team, ik not truly professional cod but a possibility. I do remember scump saying they'd make a team for challengers for this game now especially with Formal returning they could do both stream and compete
I think its possible. After this season the top4 teams would definitely change once one of them wins champs. For example imagine a world where they drop Skyz if they dont win and Formal is playing with Hydra next season. OpTic is a long shot unless they shit the bed in champs. I just don't wanna see any of the Optic boys lose their spot unless Champs is a shitshow which I doubt
@alexb001 Formal has won countless times under the OpTic brand. This is the 8th time Dashy goes to champs. Put your feelings aside Kid, wake up and smell the coffee. If we want to improve sometimes we have to make changes.
@@ismaelsierra9946formal is going to get bodied if he returns. He was mid in CW then bailed to halo where the talent pool was lower so he looked like a better player, the talent pool in cod is even higher now, formal coming in and being even a top 15 player seems like a small chance.
@@Jockuptownformal said himself , after the fact he was mad at himself for his Cold War year, not giving it 100% and trolling half of the time. If he locks in, I bet he could be pushing a top 10 AR
one thing i hate on playing ranked is players not knowing how to play ranked. they don't watch lanes making me push wildly to try to catch the opponents of guard keeping pushing the map. they get kills somehow but the lands get flipped and they be pushing which makes me lose full and just rage quit lmao. i don't always think straight or shoot straight but when it happens i don't have much time to digest playing with scrubs, even though i am a scrub as well. only thing i can try to do is watch A and play my life so much until they decide to push B and my whole team can't get it done making them cap it in seconds. it feels like im playing clash royale using a light deck and all of a sudden their deck has a lot of heavy in it.
Clay shouldve been more selfish and worked on his game when NYSL first got Hydra. Stayed there as a duo. Kismet, Hydra and Priestahh wouldve been great for his aggressive system. Clay should retire with how bad he looked this season.
Hey Ben and Zooma, can you guys talk or start a conversation with treyarch about ranked plays SR? The system they have is just bad. We need a better one for blops 6
Just youtube in general has been getting worse. The search function is worse, comment shadowbanning is worse, bots everywhere, recommended videos are worse
@@enterpassword3313 The comment shadowbanning is the worst. Id be confident saying 90% of my comments get deleted immediately after posting them and it only takes refreshing the comments section for 5 minutes to see it finally pop back up like half the time. The other half I just give up and accept my comment is gone for no reason. I never curse or argue or say outrageous things so the system is fundamentally broken probably to stop all the bot comments which is also getting worse 😂 so who knows
I mean formal could return i seen rumors that dashy is a free agent so formal could fit right in there and be shotzzy pred kenny and formal idk who knows maybe optic blow it up if they do bad at champs like they did in major 4 and build a team around formal a d drop everyone who knows this off season could be crazy
What about Seattle Surge ? Luminosity.. Rambo.. I'm sure if he showed interest in that org and they gave him the opportunity to build his team. He would go there temporarily to play and get his feet wet. When he went to Halo he didn't start on Optic. He had to work his way to the top .. and respectfully it should be the same for BO6
I remember when ben first brought up the Saudis investing in esports like 4/5 months ago and NOBODY on the flank believed him lol now look at what theyre doing 😂
I say formal return pred or Kenny going one or other if scump comes back Def them to are going . I could see maybe sib going bye on NY team and maybe they pick formal up that be sick squad.
Honestly, anything Saudi backed i just cant fuck with morally... As dope as the E-Sports Olympics will be, i just cant get behind the inaugural event. That or the EWC
@@xhysteriaahh I’m not gonna go into it but human rights violations are a major factor amongst other issues. In your own time, you can Google it to figure it out yourself
Franchising ruined comp cod. Used to be way better back in the day with open tournaments and bracket in to big tournaments. Champs used to have teams from every continent and now we don’t even see all the CDL teams at champs. Franchising ruined cod
clay comments are OD, think about his team going into this year. he had gwinn, reaal , and the challengers champ mvp. He can easily build a winning team
as a casual viewer to cod and the flank it always warm my heart to see youtube recommend the flank right away always clicking this thanks zoomaa and co you guys rock
Fr, it's always the dopest feeling when a 2+ hr emergency flank unexpectedly shows up in my recommended
🤓
@@yorkog7741 hows it taste?
No shot in hell Ben is only 33
and they were saying damn like thats old lmao buddy looks early 40s at best
Dude has grey top too, crazy
They misspoke. He’s actually 57
i deadass thought he was like 45 or sum 😭😭
Leave unc alone 😂
We will never forget you Fero #F3F3
🕊️
F3
#f3f3
I forgot about him till now
Don’t forget about phizzurp
Formal does not want to be an “entertainer” or do watch parties. He is a gamer
If you think Formal is gonna join a team of 3 faces hes never played with or against you’re faded😭😂
Simp cellium abezy …
@@sergiogaribay8890THEY WIN EVERYTHING EVER 🏆
@@sergiogaribay8890 they wouldn't drop drazah from formal imo
He did it for halo?
@@sergiogaribay8890 are we faded? MW19 and Cold War. 😭
you can tell the people in chat hating on gunless are new to the scene
Nah Gunless is widely known as a bad teammate. Since black ops 4
I hear you but at what point do we stop gassing past achievements and look at their actual ability in recent years and come to the conclusion that they aren’t good enough. Look at Arcitys. I love the guy as a person but I don’t think he has long left competing, especially after his brother recently retired
Clay needs to be full time on the desk it's time allycat gets the boot tbh
Waited 2 weeks for this! More entertaining than watching hit-markers on 45 /s
Leaving for work and this noti comes up. Perfect for the drive
That good prework dope have a good shift mah brotha 🫡
I have been returning to see if theyve posted a new flank even though there havent been matches. Leaves a small void when its gone...
I think if formal doesn’t play for optic nadeshot gives him an opportunity for black ops 6.
This or hecz makes a second optic team is the only thing I can see happening
@@PrestonMorrowHIM starting on OPTIC Texas tho he’s DIFFY 🐐
@@recovery- I would love to see him back on optic Texas but I really don’t wanna let Kenny go he’s been good for this team and I don’t see them getting rid of dashy but who knows 🤷🏻♂️
One thing thats pretty cool about the esports world cup for the scene as a whole which we've never seen before is that we kinda get 2 roster mania's between seasons now. There's the initial rostermania of teams blowing it up to build their ESWC roster that we're seeing now, and then any teams that don't do well at ESWC will inevitably blow it up again before BO6
Ben and Pat getting along this episode makes my heart warm
The J is lit and the flank is on 🔥
I am the shadow gm
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Give Aches the 3 milli-
From a Breach fan going insane
Coming from someone who’s played high level paintball…. It also is not allowed in the Olympics because you are shooting at eachother. They already have attempted to have it in the Olympics, so overall it’s just the shooting aspect they don’t allow.
“High level paintball”
FormaL replaces Cell and shows Simp and Abezy how to win in Finals lmfao
Clay, Abuzah, 04, & Huke for the ESWC would go crazy 🌊
hot take clay is not good
@@gwuapo3429realistic take
@@gwuapo3429bro did not cook
@@gwuapo3429he’s good on LAN
Would it?
Not a lot in this world thats much better than a random emergency flank upload. Just blesses my sub page
Just packing a bowl. Gonna rip and watch 😎
Right behind ya with this dab ✌💨
Im also a drug smoking loser woooo!
Formal for Drazah, Faze Formal.
It's happened before.
You can tell Ben has missed his weekly yappathons
12k is a cheap Persian rug, I used to clean carpets. Cleaned a 450k Persian Rug.
That's BS, no you didn't.
I cleaned your mom's rug, shit was cheap
@@SidePiece88 Dude, you are the side piece in the relationship. You aren't the priority.
@@Wan_Billy not bullshit, persian rugs can cost millions depending on the silk.
1:00:45 HAGGY FOR THE W!!
bro there's no way Ben is only 33???? man looks 50
Major Maniak under bet on 6star was better than the insight one. Pointless nade to lose his bet has me rolling 😂
CZcams gives me these and I watch them all
when Formal came back to Halo in Infinite he started playing on top12 teams for months until he got a spot in Optic, I think playing in a top12 team would be fine with him as long as he likes the game and he improves
Shoutout The Quarry, underrated horror gem for those looking for one. Also recommend the Anthology series if thats your vibe.
H4F BABY bring him home with the MULTI FPS DUO with Shotzzy under OpTic! 🐐🐐
Formal easily walks into any of the top 4 teams that don’t win champs. Any of those teams will take him if they don’t do well enough at champs
Dashy gone formal coming in dah
Look at the stash on that guy
I love haggy so much but this episode man was yappinnnnnnnn, bad take day
Only thing that makes sense for optic if formal come back is to drop pred kenny is more valuable and can play sub with shozzy and dashy as flexs or ar with formal
AYYYEEEEEE WE DROPPED
Formals a goat but with respect i dont think he would be good enough for any top 4 team
Imagine getting a hit marker on trump
Weirdo
ben is 33.
lessson of the day : take your health seriously and go outside.
Formal + Clay, i mean that's a gross AR duo
What was pacman doing at that rally?
😂😂 💀 that's diabolical! I love it
If Formal was to really come back with what we know now it'd probably be to a team like rokkr. Formal and Gunless have played together before. Plus lynz and some cracked challengers sub player is like the only realistic thing I could see
Ben's had a hard paper round guys
Ben masterclass this episode, really expanded on the things going around the league and future 🙏🙏
Formal wouldn’t come back if he wasn’t on OpTic. They’ll drop Kenny
Didn't know Pat still reppin LAG Guerrillas in the biggest way
The logic of Karma being able to go straight to coaching OpTic after not coaching a single team is interesting…
Mans been apart of OpTic for a long time. He was gonna coach OpTic if he felt like coaching, no matter what. They weren’t just gonna tell him no
😂😂
They wanted him to coach anyway
@@kronicassault1374Breh when niggys aren’t making the right plays it’s up to the coach to call ppl out and set the format for how each map should be played for each role not Kenny. It’s like 60%-70% on Karma rn.
@vinniehuish3987 bro... youee gunna put this on the greatest player of all time? Possibly the smartest aswell? Absolutely chalked mindset.
@@ImBrockatron Karma was NOT smarter than Rambo.
And just stop dude. He was the worst player on that optic team. Why do you think he did the fundamentals? Because the team wasn’t as good with him in any of the other 3 roles switching any of them. You think they didn’t try that shit multiple times?
Karma was a great player but hella fucking overrated dude.
I WATCHED back then and I remember the games.
Karma costed them MANY times because he couldn’t get kills in his role vs faze and many other teams.
Yes I’m blaming him for this partially. He’s the coach?
All you can say is “It’s karma bro”
I bet you if formal and Scump want to play, optic will have 2 teams like faze used to, especially with changes to the cap structure after activision refuned and removed all buy in
Maybe if they loan formal out they could drop insight for formal on Toronto? Envoy and formal have teamed and maybe im wrong but insight is the worst on ultra.
BEN GO TAKE A WALK is the best moment
Owww how I miss the flanks broo let's goo
watch my words matt comes back ands wins , homeboy is the best player in history
I actually want to see them drop formal for Kenny because it will be hilarious when they get shit on.
just an afterthought but what if Formal is referring to a possible OpTic nation challengers team, ik not truly professional cod but a possibility. I do remember scump saying they'd make a team for challengers for this game now especially with Formal returning they could do both stream and compete
Ben got the dogs out
Fk yeah formal my guy he gone go crazy bo6
Hopefully Clay and Attach don’t go to Boston Bleach 🙏🏻
Brother we might need a texas food IRL stream
Low key best snipper formal was Advanced warfare witch is going to be black opps 6 plus dashy as ar kenny sub with shotty
I think its possible. After this season the top4 teams would definitely change once one of them wins champs. For example imagine a world where they drop Skyz if they dont win and Formal is playing with Hydra next season. OpTic is a long shot unless they shit the bed in champs. I just don't wanna see any of the Optic boys lose their spot unless Champs is a shitshow which I doubt
It's only right the FPS GOAT Formal comes back to CoD. Hopefully he's on OpTic.
Fuck no
@alexb001 Formal has won countless times under the OpTic brand. This is the 8th time Dashy goes to champs. Put your feelings aside Kid, wake up and smell the coffee. If we want to improve sometimes we have to make changes.
@@ismaelsierra9946formal is going to get bodied if he returns. He was mid in CW then bailed to halo where the talent pool was lower so he looked like a better player, the talent pool in cod is even higher now, formal coming in and being even a top 15 player seems like a small chance.
@@Jockuptownmy god you’re cooked what a faded take - you’re talking about the GOAT AR, he can do whatever he wants
@@Jockuptownformal said himself , after the fact he was mad at himself for his Cold War year, not giving it 100% and trolling half of the time.
If he locks in, I bet he could be pushing a top 10 AR
Plot twist- formal and scump come back and play for the Miami heretics, then run the league again.
Smoking crack
Eswc should be scump simp scrap and Octane (if he wants). Maximum viewership with those two
Formal and scump bring back Chicago Huntsmen!!!
one thing i hate on playing ranked is players not knowing how to play ranked. they don't watch lanes making me push wildly to try to catch the opponents of guard keeping pushing the map. they get kills somehow but the lands get flipped and they be pushing which makes me lose full and just rage quit lmao. i don't always think straight or shoot straight but when it happens i don't have much time to digest playing with scrubs, even though i am a scrub as well. only thing i can try to do is watch A and play my life so much until they decide to push B and my whole team can't get it done making them cap it in seconds. it feels like im playing clash royale using a light deck and all of a sudden their deck has a lot of heavy in it.
Lamar was in that discord because kenny called asking him how to make pred. Pred 😂
Clay shouldve been more selfish and worked on his game when NYSL first got Hydra. Stayed there as a duo. Kismet, Hydra and Priestahh wouldve been great for his aggressive system. Clay should retire with how bad he looked this season.
Hopefully scrap wins the best flank guest lmaoo
Hey Ben and Zooma, can you guys talk or start a conversation with treyarch about ranked plays SR?
The system they have is just bad. We need a better one for blops 6
Drop Kenny for Formal. Kenny is gross, but Formal is the GOAT fps
CZcams ads have been insufferable lately. Great episode though fellas! Been feenin for a Flank
Just youtube in general has been getting worse. The search function is worse, comment shadowbanning is worse, bots everywhere, recommended videos are worse
@@enterpassword3313 The comment shadowbanning is the worst. Id be confident saying 90% of my comments get deleted immediately after posting them and it only takes refreshing the comments section for 5 minutes to see it finally pop back up like half the time. The other half I just give up and accept my comment is gone for no reason. I never curse or argue or say outrageous things so the system is fundamentally broken probably to stop all the bot comments which is also getting worse 😂 so who knows
@@enterpassword3313 And right on que, I responded and its just gone. I basically agreed with you especially with the comments getting deleted part lol
I feel like that pick up best challenger team failed with LAG in MW2
Sam lookin extra emo this episode
I mean formal could return i seen rumors that dashy is a free agent so formal could fit right in there and be shotzzy pred kenny and formal idk who knows maybe optic blow it up if they do bad at champs like they did in major 4 and build a team around formal a d drop everyone who knows this off season could be crazy
What about Seattle Surge ? Luminosity.. Rambo.. I'm sure if he showed interest in that org and they gave him the opportunity to build his team. He would go there temporarily to play and get his feet wet. When he went to Halo he didn't start on Optic. He had to work his way to the top .. and respectfully it should be the same for BO6
if Boston is hanging on snoopy, they should atleast ask snoopy pick who he wants to play with
Why did I get an Xdefiant Ad before watching this video?
Scrap FormaL Hydra CleanX
That’s an insane team, I only see faze competing 😅
Probably the only dude ive seen actually build a team that make sense. Even though it wont happen
i like this team, scrap plays fast enough for this 2 work
I think realistically it’d be scrap/skyz/hydra/cleanx
We all know who they’d drop for Formal
yo never been this early heck yeah!
Quote me: Scrap, Formal, AG, Shottzy
I remember when ben first brought up the Saudis investing in esports like 4/5 months ago and NOBODY on the flank believed him lol now look at what theyre doing 😂
Aches is right about Clayster
dashy should be the flex formal or kenny should me the main
He's really gonna return to get shyt on n by all the new guns😂
I say formal return pred or Kenny going one or other if scump comes back Def them to are going . I could see maybe sib going bye on NY team and maybe they pick formal up that be sick squad.
18:13 L clipfarmer bruh
W Ben
Rumored Boston team is 4 people that couldn’t get any kills lmao
Honestly, anything Saudi backed i just cant fuck with morally... As dope as the E-Sports Olympics will be, i just cant get behind the inaugural event. That or the EWC
Why ?
"morally" lmao jokeman
@@xhysteriaahh I’m not gonna go into it but human rights violations are a major factor amongst other issues. In your own time, you can Google it to figure it out yourself
@@TheArsenal21 not fucking with a country that completely disregards human rights is a joke? Ok whatever floats your boat my guy.
@@BlvckPhantom So which countries do you mess with? 🤔
That fact is 33 and rich and still hasn’t change his physicality say sum😂
Franchising ruined comp cod. Used to be way better back in the day with open tournaments and bracket in to big tournaments. Champs used to have teams from every continent and now we don’t even see all the CDL teams at champs. Franchising ruined cod
Formal replacing who tho?
sam needs to get rid of the stache
Dude I’m 33 and look way younger than Ben 😂
clay comments are OD, think about his team going into this year. he had gwinn, reaal , and the challengers champ mvp. He can easily build a winning team
I hate hearing EWC , It really should be ESWC just cause it’s E-Sports World Cup, not E World Cup
LAT ABUZAHHH COMING SOON !!
14:03 LMFAO
Kenny would probably be dropped if formal decided to come back.