Being an Owner Operator With an Older Model Truck (Can Be Profitable)
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2022
- Owning and Operating an Older Model Truck (And Turning a Profit!) It is possible to own and operate an older model truck that is free and clear and turn a profit. In this video, Dave gives his own experience of holding on to older trucks and gives some tips on how to care for an older model truck.
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Hey there Big Strappers. So glad you took the time to drop by to check out today's video. What are your thoughts on running an older truck? Are you running a newer ride or an older model truck? What have been YOUR experiences with either new or older truck? Always love to hear what's shakin' with you!
I just bought my 1st truck. 1987 IH 9370. Big cam 4. 13sp. 3.58's. No truck payment. Having some work Done on it. King pins, an air compresser and some little things.
I have a 2006 Freightliner with a 12.7 and its a egr model ,but I bought a ugly fix and deleted the egr system. Been running about a year locally with this truck. So far so good.
I respect your decision for still having that 2003 model HOWEVER!!!, the mpg efficiency of the newer trucks Is way better, that truck of yours I'd be really happy to get 6.1mpg on it right now,almost all 2017 models and up you're guaranteed atleast a 7.8 at the very minimum even if you're a really bad driver for good drivers they average about 8.6 mpg,that's where the old school trucks fail ,also I enjoy the luxury of having a fridge, large sleeper and sensors that remind me when stuff needs alot more attention
Dad's 02 model eagle condo sleeper ISX 450 averages 7.9mpg which I didn't think was possible... so there's that lol
@@benchillwell7498 no disrespect to you sir,but I can tell you have not been trucking long.
A wise man once told me that anybody can go and buy a new truck, but it takes a real man to keep an old one rolling down the road
I paid my truck and trailer off late last year and just paid my house off this week there is no way I'm going to jump back into another truck payment I'll keep what I got in my time what I got love your Channel
Oh wow, no mortgage and no truck and trailer payments? You're smiling there Ryan. Good job. Keep the rubber side down. 😎
Damn paid of your house this week? I'm jealous lol.
@@jmh4ggg it took everything we had to do it it was a struggle but we have breathing room now
Man, that's freaking awesome, congratulations! I need to pay off my house too!
3 payments left on my truck!!
AMEN Brother. I bought a 94 Pete 379 in April of 99. Almost lost it once but was able to pay it of. Been over every square inch of the truck more than once and know everything about it. STILL Driving it Today. 23 Years and 3 wives 😎
As I read your comment, I started getting that song 'Peterbilt 379' by Tony Justice stuck in my head. Lol.
That’s awesome 👍🏾💯
got my 95' short nose big motor 5mpg yet parked her in 14' health issues but ran her everyday of the week ,and while on 2nd wife lol i still got the great woman that i had when i bought her in 05 . have a good ride driver.
@@doordieace5high ain't that the truth 1 under the seat hahahaha all fun and games until i got hammered in Ohio taken to motel for 2 little lol have a great day
I'll guarantee you that old Pete cost you less in maintenance than the 3 wives did. 🤣🤣
that's exactly why I'm keeping my 2001 Pete 387, with CAT C15 engine under the hood. After 20 years of running OTR, I'm good with it, running 100 miles radius.
I've been running a 99 Freightliner FLD120 with 60 series seems like forever. The thing I like about it is its really easy to work on and you can't sling a dead cat without hitting some place that has parts for it and it still looks like trucks used to look. She's been paid off for quite awhile now and she's old enough to drink at the bar so I think I'll keep her.
I bought a 2006 9400i with a isx15 1.3mil miles 30k in April. I've been a owner operator for 3 yrs. Besides some suspension and tires. No issues. Working on buying a house in February and a trailer afterwards pray for me.
Thank you for posting. I'm not a trucker but grew up on a farm and worked road construction for four years. I have a deep respect for truckers and a deep appreciation for diesel power. I appreciate your common sense counsel. I'm a new subscriber. Thanks.
And we truckers have great respect for farmers like you as well. No farms, no food. Thank you for what you do, sir. 👍
Couldn’t have said it better! I’ll keep my old school 1996 and anyone who wants to have the headaches from these new plastic trucks can have at it.
Stay safe everyone!
Dave you are a breath of fresh air I’m a 4th generation Diesel Mech and CDL A operator taught by my grandfather who at this point has 60 years of seat time behind the wheel and my dad who’s retired with 30 years and you give the care that I got being raised in the cab of a big truck I’ve been a subscriber for a while and even though I’ve been trucking and turning wrenches since I was a baby your information and advice is always dead on and you should be the head for Canadian and American trucking I can spot a BS artist from a mile away and man you aren’t your what real operators need running our systems with real experience not some bull degree from the Ivy League who need some kind of foot in the door to politics and even with all the care I got in my training I still take your advise because your a solid guy and one of the greats thank you for what you do for the new people coming in to the industry even though my grandads the best your right up there with him in my book
I love my 07 KENWORTH W-900. Other truckers I know with newer trucks have nothing but issues . I just rebuilt my engine this last year and my turbo. It was just under$24k to do all of that. Runs like a dream and a hell of a lot cheaper than the newer trucks.
I have a 07 international 9400 eagle.72 in sleeper etc.PAID!!! 1.7 m miles on truck but only 200k on out of fram cummins rebuild.PAID! NEW TRANS AND DRIVE AXLES.PAID! It is in full OTR service.( except cal) ill hang on to it as long as i can.
100%, my service truck is a 1994.5, I bought it needing work, put an engine in it 5 years ago, did a clutch last year, always change the oil, and do maintenance. I have no use for the new emissions laden stuff. I have it parked against the fence right now to rebuild the body, but still way cheaper than buying a new service truck at $150,000
07 Columbia, series 60, and upgrades all over. Over 1 mill as well. Been able to work on it easily. Been a great truck and engine and pulls great. I trust that truck and its more than paid for itself. I agree about working it when you need to. If they want the load. They should pay for it and that includes the fuel.
Man I LOVE when he gets in to his stories of the road. Love this guy
AMEN TO THAT about the modern-day emissions equipment on big trucks, the DEF System on the company truck I drive is responsible for over 90% of the down time of that vehicle!!!
I agree 100%
We are in CA and just sold an 04 379
With a Cat. I'm happy it's going to someone in Utah building a high hp rig.
Wow!! How much power is he planning to make with it?
still have my class of 95 i parked it in 2014 due to health issues. got rid of dump trailer but still have the widow maker . thanks for the videos and reminding me of all the things not to do! have a great day!!!!
I don't drive truck but I work at a tollbooth - I love seeing the old boys roll by
Watching this after watching ET transports “don’t have an old truck during a recession video” lol
That's because they are trying to sell trucks to truck drivers. They finance trucks to make money.
@@SmartTruckingyeah that would make sense. .....wish them luck then. Gonna be hard finding new owner operators with these horrendous fuel prices. I'm definitely staying a company driver.
That guy is clueless
Same here
I like old trucks like I love old cars
GREAT ADVICE!!! “ just because the tech is new .. doesn’t mean the tech is reliable” love that
Thank you Sir !!!! It’s GREAT to hear from a well seasoned veteran!! A $25 CB. Boy those were the days!!! I often say I was born to late in time….. I’m a huge fan of the way things USE to be!! GOD bless Sir !! thanks for ALL your input & information!!!!👍🏼👍🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼🫶🏼🤗💯❤️the old 🇺🇸. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
This right here is Gold! Thanks for the knowledge, and the story too.
I love and agree with this man's perspectives. Keep doing what you're doing. Salute!
Love your wisdom with trucks and the story about your old pal Simon may He RIP
Great video! Your channel is dope. I’m a recent graduate and have my CDL’s. I plan on buying my own truck but really hesitant to do so with the truck prices and fuel prices through the roof. Hopefully the trucking prices drop over the next year so I can purchase one and put the rubber on the road 😎
Your videos helps me out a lot as I’m new to the industry and have a bunch to learn. 💯
Old school is the best school !
Thanks for the tip Dave 👍🏾
I maybe a 4 wheeler though I’ve always wanted to be a truck driver but I’ve had my 99 Ram 1/2 ton for about 3 years now and it’s been rather reliable down to a computer failure that happened last year aside from that it’s $250 junk yard engine still holding strong and the clutch is still in great shape after 3 years love your content man
For sure, agree 100%. I have a 2004 Star, easy to get parts, easy to work on, no truck payments. Works good.
That old Pete of yours would bring a big dollar, guys are paying stupid money for the older trucks.
I’ve got a 1979 model ford clt9000 bought and paid for. Doing all of the small stuff and making sure she is ready and reliable. Can’t wait to put my paid for truck and trailer on the road.
48 years wow ,, I'm only 6years in and im 30,, dam when did he start like 18 years young ,,, I hope I can make it that long in trucking ,,,, Salute to you sir 🙏
Really good talking! Great video. Enjoy the stories driver!
Amen, still running my 2003 Peterbilt 379.
I've been in in this company truck, a 2018 Freightliner Cascadia Midroof now for 2 and about 3/4 years now. Haven't had as many issues with it compared to the earlier emissions model trucks. I'd feel pretty confident in buying a new truck at a dealer these days. Seems like most of the manufacturers are getting the kinks and bends worked out for the most part. I still haven't quite decided when I'll pull the trigger, but I don't mind waiting a bit if necessary. I'm with a good company, and make a decent wage, and like what I'm doing hauling glass and other flatbed commodities. Still young at 31, and been doing this for 7 1/2 years now, following after my grandpa's, grandma, and uncle. Figure if anything I'll wait until these midterm/gubernatorial elections are over and see how things are shaping up towards 2024. Single, no kids or pets, I can just keep saving as I've been doing. Though in my lifetime I've never seen fuel, or groceries at these sorts of prices.. Who knows, patience is a virtue as they say, and I don't mind waiting a bit to see if the tides change.
I'm new i just like to listen,i a carpenter for30 years now atruck driver for 9 months now wish i had started a whole lot earlier!!!
How true. Everything you said!
If you dont have to use a newer truck to get loads its always best to fix a pre emissions truck. No matter the pain of repairs.
You made the right decision in the twilight of your career and the beginning of the emissions control trucks to pass and keep your paid off equipment,however those who are still a good time away from retirement and work out of California have to conform or roll out.That said make sure you are assured of top pay for your hauls and your business is solid before you bury yourself in payments
The CB story reminds me of all the old Truckers that say you don't need any quality of life improvements in the trucks.
It's why it's 2022 and nearly every truck interior is from the 70s.
I was told by an old trucker the biggest mistake in the Trucking industry was the sleeper. A real trucker should be OK with just sleeping in the front seat because if you're not sleeping then you keep the left door closed the the wheels turning.
The average trucker is over 60 and that's why 2022 and we don't even get electric bunk AC's because the old timers scoff at any improvements like tables, TV Mounts, digital dashes and Internet hookups.
This is why I really want a Mack MH ultraliner as my first owner/operator rig.
Some companies have an age limit about your equipment. That being said , older is definitely better because it's not subject to all the electronic and environmental flaws that the new trucks are.
Things are electrical or mechanical or electrical mechanical they are not electronic. A major plus for reliability.
Great video
Well said.
I have a friend who bought an older truck and he didn't take cautious steps you did and the it broke down bad during a haul..he ended up biting the bullet and going brand new.
They are trying to fix what's not broken. Keep your old equipment running. New shits junk. Great vid
That was awesome
I bought my 97 t600 (cat 3406e) in 2000, after 22 years, still running like the first day I had it, if I had to work for another 22 years I'd keep it, no doubt in my mind.
Awesome channel! Would be great to here your take on the end of outdated mechanical fuel injection replaced with mandated electronic fuel injection, if cost effective to swap out for newer engine, and when the DOT enforced rule change takes effect. Thanks
That's new to me , outlawing mechanical fuel injection for commercial use? Even on older trucks ?
Maintenance is key but doing it smartly is even better. I had a customer replace his air compressor on a cat 3406b. He only replaced his air compressor as he said it was weak and building air slowly. He did not replace discharge line air governor or air dryer. Compressor only lasted thirty minutes before it exploded. His discharge line was so full of crap and air dryer compromised to the point of non function. Poor air compressor exploded into five different pieces and sent shrapnel everywhere. When you replace one part its a good idea to at least examine related parts to ensure that the part you are replacing is the real issue. This was a genuine bendix rebuild that dynamited and it ended up costing him ten times more to replace everything that got damaged.
A philosophy I practice with my daily drivers; two 50 year old Chevy pickups that run every day, rain or shine. All the computer cars I've owned in the last 20 years are running around as Kias now, or fridgidaires.
Takes me back to my grandpa who didn't even trust turbos. If that turbo blows up you'll lose the whole motor. So that big cat stayed NA
Yep I'll kep my '03 KW 900L. She's a good Ole girl and never let me down. Got the 6NZ Cat in it and the engine was redone at 1,330,000. Right now she's got 1,920,000 on her and she still pulls strong. 18 speed with a 550 hp. I'll never sell her even though I had plenty of offers, in some cases triple of what I paid for it....
I wouldn't trade my 05 379 for nothing. She's been so reliable I couldn't ask for anymore.
My 2019 cascadia has been fairly reliable and never any emission problems…..
06 freightliner classic XL, bought it cash rebuilt it from the rooter to the tooter. Tuned it like a B.B king guitar 650 h.p cat rooster cruseing...COME IN!
Nice to see someone sticking up for the old iron, seems everything nowadays is really pushing the plastic emissions-plagued junk.
I caught a deal last summer on an FLD with a good running 3406E that I'm fixing up and hoping to start entrepreneurship with! Curious though (since everyone says maintenance will make or break new O/O's) is there a "magic number" for setting aside income for maintenance? $5,000/month? $0.50/mi?
I have a 1988 Kenworth K100E. Great truck. What I find is that nobody asks "just because we can do something, should we?"
I like that shirt 💯
Dude bring the live streams back!!!!! Cmon!!!!
I went to Peterbilt in 2002 designed out the truck I wanted for what I was doing at the time and have held onto it since. Been several times I have wanted a new truck mostly during times where there has been a major breakdown which took me to look at new ones. I just cant bend myself from my old Petes steering wheel to get under new truck notes when my old reliable is still running and isn't costing me a truck note payment a month along with everything else. Until the truck just falls to pieces like the Blues Mobile at the end of the Blues Brothers did I'll just plan to hang onto it.
I got a old 2007 freightliner classic been a good truck I'll never get rid of don't like none of them curb sniffers
I just have more fun driving older trucks anyways. I love them!
In past videos it was mentioned that Paccar products were purchased for resale value. This video is almost a 180 degree reversal of that business practice. It has a reliable and proven drive train, which can be rebuilt to infinity. Why not hang onto it and keep rebuilding it? The only drawback is the it’s not a 99 or older for paper logs.
I’m gonna build a kw w900A and do a slight resto mod to her , newer drive line kinda thing
Have you or can you do a video if this time we are in, is a good time to jump in to trucking as a greenhorn?
I love driving, I've dabbled a bit in trucks just under class "B" requirements. So I have a small taste of the trucking life. I just wish it was more common for greenhorns to start out local first before jumping OTR. Seems more logical and safer than throwing new people into the wolf's going cross country.
I’m really on doing the repairs ahead of time thing since I’ve had my truck ...only thing I can’t find is a new wiring harness for my fld120 Freightliner says they don’t make them anymore and I can’t seem to find a good place to get a custom one made for my 96 fld120
I like Ur Peterbilt mate
I've been trying to get out of my current truck for years but now that's it's almost paid off... again, I figure I may as well hold onto it. It's not what I really wanted but new trucks are way too expensive now and the wait time to get one is pretty long.
The older paid off truck should be able to make it through this down turn ok as long as there personal bills are in check. I’m still killing it with my Freightliner single axle and step deck.
Want to see a truck tour
If governments require emissions equipment to be fitted it therefore should be up to them to replace the parts when they start to go faulty.
Hello! Been following your page for a while! I want to be without the emission required trucks!! What are some of the best ones to run!!
My old boss was super cheap. He model was if it it broke don’t fix it, his famous quote was “I fix when break” they once caught him cleaning an air filter 🤦🏽♂️ 😂
I haul corn and some days I have to clean it everyday.
@@mikekahl5609 no we did regular work no corn. Trust me this guy was a cheap owner lol
He called the recession a month early. He been paying attention to everything
1997 Kenworth T2000. 1.3 million on the original 12.7 Detroit. 600 hp, 7 miles per gallon lifetime average. Just replaced it with a new custom built 12.7. Didn't have to. Did it before it became a problem. I've replaced everything except the paint on this truck. I haven't had a breakdown in over 7 years. Then, it was only a wire to the throttle position sensor. Don't believe you can say that about an emission truck.
I've got an 89 Kenworth t6 with a b model cat and a 15 speed owned it since it was new it ain't going nowhere. Everything I got I own free and clear I hate payments.
What year would you consider the “older” non emissions type trucks to be? Especially for a volvo
Most guys used to have ratchet jaw after buying a CB. Kinda like the single axle w/ single axle pup guys in the trucker only section of the 76'
I am looking at getting a tandem dump truck and work for myself in Manitoba. Definitely want to get an older truck, at what year will it be harder to find parts for Kenworth and Pererbilt? I’m hoping to stay pre emissions, but closer to 98,99,2000
Very true that just because you have newer technology that it doesn't mean it's more reliable. I know these days no matter what industry it is, parts are made to fail sooner rather than later because to the manufactures, it's all about keeping them in business by creating non serviceable parts from cheap grade materials and charged them out at premium prices because they're "New Technology".
So, yes... a lot of parts where made better back in the day BECAUSE there was such a thing as "customer satisfaction" which was then passed back on by the rewards of being both reputable AND reliable. It was simply people over profits ...unlike today.
The tide is turning where the customer will hold onto the old and do what it takes to maintain things in good working order.
I am not a hauler but I do own a 2005 Super Duty. It’s parked by the fence right now because I don’t want to take diesel fuel from someone who needs it to work. My 75 year old neighbor is still working as a diesel mechanic. Almost every weekend he gives me another reason not to buy a newer model with DEF and all the rest.
Don't let Oil-slick haired Ronen from ET transport see this, he's gonna break out his "analytics"
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How long to keep a turbo? I always cool before cutting it off it's got 780,000 so probably soon I guess?
Dave👍👍👍😎😎😎
I completely agree wholeheartedly ownership is key
I think the days of the owner operator are going to get more difficult because of the maintenance costs if you ask me it just seems like it's not worth it anymore but I could be wrong
What do you do everyday when you're a retired truck driver? Other than the obvious, just curious, thanks Dave.
Well I don't suppose I'll ever own my own equipment. I've always wanted to but there has always been either fuel spiking to unreasonable prices or new regulations that at the end of the day take money away from an OO's bottom line. So I never was able to see myself being able to maintain a truck payment while also keeping the lights on at home and everything that comes with it. I suppose there's a tiny sliver of a chance that I'll win a new truck in a drawing or something😁. But nah, I don't see myself ever being able to have my own truck at this point. And that's really disappointing because that was one of my goals when I was a young fellow. Just wasn't in the cards for me I guess.
What do you know about " Artur Express"???
CA took this away from me unfortunately. I’m ready to leave though because I want a Series 60 and we all know how long those things last.
ur adv is good for more than trucking....imo
Could you talk about your old mentor Simon a little more? I’ve heard you mention him before in another video and he seems like he was an interesting man.
I have 2015 389 with 1.2mil km and love that thing, still rides like a dream or maybe better. Interior is like new. It’s paid long time ago and just keep making money. Even emissions are still on because never had single issue with them but they gonna go soon.
Why why why I would pay 250k for new truck if can rebuild whole drivetrain for 40k in this one?
My 2004,379 has 1,716.237 miles. I work her every day
when it comes to trucks older is better.
easier to fix. cheaper parts cheaper labour. more reliable and built better
new trucks are built poorly and always in the shop.
now these days gotta wait for days for parts and that can and will kill an o/o.
stick to older trucks!
great video!
Im curious I heard that some insurance companies don't wanna insure trucks beyond a certain age is this a real problem? Ive never been a owner operator just a company guy so i never had to deal with this
If you park your truck, don’t you have to keep making payments for truck insurance? If so then you’ll have a sitting cost besides any other thing I didn’t mention
Well, I own an older truck 2005 Frietliner, it has over 1,600,000 miles and is still going. But the way the fuel prices are going, I might have to talk to my banker to see if he'll finance my fuel card. But my truck is bought and paid for!!!!!!
That's a good thing. Can always park it without payments.
Wait, California requires trucks to have emission equipment even if it came from the factory without it? If that’s true I can’t say I’m surprised