10 Used-Cars to AVOID for BAD Transmission - as per Consumer Reports
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- A Bad Transmission make the vehicle totally unreliable. Because transmission failures are expensive to fix, and no one wants to deal with a bad transmission. Automatic Transmissions can fail due to many reasons, including harsh shifting habits and manufacturer defects. Its not just every CVT (continuously variable transmissions) are bad. Consumer Reports data show that some models carry a significantly greater failure rate than other models. If you are on the market for a used-car, avoid these 10 vehicles.
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Most common "word" was CVT, second most common "word" was Nissan.
@@pamelarose3258 No wonder there was an international search for the head of Nissan who escaped Japan. They used the worst transmissions on the market- Jatco which is a subsidiary of Nissan. These trannys were also used in Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance Infiniti, Mitsubishi, all associated or owned by the same mega group. I don't believe they put CVTs in their trucks at least up to 2010. Just had to research that for an issue with my FIL's Frontier and it's a conventional automatic.
I’m going back aways and I don’t know if I recall correctly but, I bought a 2004 Audi allroad, which had one of the most complicated transmissions back then. I bought the car used but, it was a lemon, the transmission started having issues immediately, I was not in a position to return the car, the warranty repair was shady and, when I took it to my mechanic, who’s done great with my former 1999 SAAB 9 5 Sportswagon, he kept the Audi for the entire summer. Can’t remember if this had a CVT trans. But, I remember reading something about CVT, there was a lawyer suing Audi about this, but he was a lawyer for strippers (that’s not a typo). When my mechanic “repaired” it, I couldn’t get a block, without problems, he told me that, in order for me to get my money back, they’d have to remove the parts. I sued for the repair and won.
My buddies 2017 Nissan Altima's CVT died at 30,000 miles! WTF! My mom has a 2012 Dodge Caliber with a CVT transmission , and with 125,000+ miles, it works great still! Automotive CVT's are just 2 electronically controlled hydraulic actuated clutches with a metal - link belt that connects the two. It's based on a simple drivetrain put into snowmobiles , mopeds, some ATv's since the beginning of time!
Oh this is so true and it hurts, nissan has some beautiful cars that I can't get because of the cvts. They're iffy on even lasting the first 100k miles. I'll just pray they make a sentra with regular auto/manual transmission in the next few years
I like my Nissan's. This wasn't easy to hear. But dosen't surprise me. Nissan's had a timing chain issue too. I have one. About 40,000 miles and it started making this noise, like lifters clacking. Turned out that the plastic guard around the chain breaks and the chain starts hitting the casing. But I still drive it with 120,000 miles on it.
Round of applause to Nissan for doing its part to be on most of this list 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
lol
😂😂😂 💯
You can thank Renault for turning Nissan into crap 😆 🤣
Very True!!
I didn’t know of the chemistry between Nissan and Renault
1950s Fargo truck with a straight 6 and shift on the column.
You couldn't kill it. And Lord knows as kids we sure tried to!
Fond memories of days gone by.
Got that right !
As a former (and never again) Nissan owner, I was not at all surprised to see so many Nissan/Infiniti vehicles on this list. And the one I gave back to the bank didn't even have transmission issues. It was an electrical system mess.
I had a Datsun 610 stick years ago..an amazing, well-built car. I loved it.
Too bad times have changed.
Back in the 50's I never heard of transmission failures. Manufactures have cut cost so much they are turning out crap.
Apples and oranges you can't compare cars 60 years apart. I do agree manufacturing is going into the toilet.
Also hard to kill a transmission with 75 horse power 😉
When cars rusted and fell apart at 100K miles you didn't have too many transmissions fail first.
That CVT transmission is going to be the death of Nissan. I've never seen a car company continuously have serious problems out of a engine or transmission and still continue to roll the same problematic component off the assembly line.
Looks like they phased out the cvt out of the pathfinder maybe they’ll continue with the rest of their lineup. I have a frontier and it has a regular automatic. 15-20 years ago I always told people to get a Toyota, Honda or Nissan if they wanted something relatively trouble free. Now Nissan is in the same clown car reputation Mitsubishi had among shitty Japanese designs.
Get Renault out of Nissan if Mazda can breakaway from Ford Nissan could definitely break from Renault
I remember during the 1980s Nissan was one of the best cars. My roommate had a 1989 Sentra. I think he put 200,000 mi on that thing.
@@lukeskywalker1840 Man you ain't lying. Those old Nissans used to be so reliable. Now they are known for transmissions that grenade. And this is coming from someone that actually has a nissan leaf as a second car. But I already know that once that leaf hits 90k miles that I've pulled the pin. It could explode any minute.
I have heard that on most of their models for 2022, Nissan went with ZF transmissions, so that should cure at least that quality issue for them.
My Chevy Cruze 6speed automatic has over 340,000 kilometres on it,and it still works perfect.
Nissan CVT is known as the Carlos Ghosn special. So many engineers and executives tried to move away from certain Models using the CVT but certain people in the company refused to do so. I'm glad to see Nissan is finally moving in the right direction.
Nissan was sued for this and after that they improved their CVT transmissions.
They should lock up Ghosn just for that alone
I can remember back to when manufacturers were beginning to consider CVT transmissions, and my friends and I thought "they're going to have so many problems with those things." Turns out, it was much worse than any of us realized.
The main issue is THE CVT FLUID and how sub standard it is to not changing it and letting the fluid oxidize and the belt goes to hell , ..Go with AMSOIL CVT Fluid ..I have a 2012 Rouge nearly 180k and no problems so far.and I don't use it for towing anything.. czcams.com/video/DDIUxdxNAOQ/video.html
Not with all manufacturers. Nissan was specifically bad. I’m not a fan of the dual clutch.
Nissan main problems with it are: Making them not strong enough, not cooling them enough and ppl not changing their fluids at the correct interval.
The AUDI CVTs were pretty bad. They would start giving problems by 50K miles. They used a multi-link chain which would wear out and break.
Yup... the second I see a CVT tranny I immediately move on to another car lol!
Being a former ASE certified automotive technician, I noticed that most brands had greatly reduced quality/reliability the newer they got. This is the main reason I have held on to my 1996 nissan maxima with the micro finished internal engine parts. In my opinion that is the last model year that nissan had reliable cars. I bought it while still in high school with 83,000 miles. It now has 237,583 miles with original engine and transmission and no sign of giving up! Only issue is a minor oil leak.🥰
I am so impressed. I wish I had kept my 1st car. Buying cars is like spinning the roulette wheel.
Sounds like a great car!!
I got a 2004 Nissan Frontier with 265k miles on it that would like to join the discussion
Would Lucas Trans lube or fresh trans oil help on the GM 4T65E with a hard shift when cold ?
WOW ! That is great. I have a 2000 Subaru sportscar I only have 75,000 miles
on it. I love my car. My son is ASE Certified mechanic so that may have helped.
I've always had a manual transmission, and unlike back in the day when they were cable clutches, the newer (since the 1990s or so) hydraulic clutches last a long time, in fact I've had some that outlast the car itself.
Yeah, if you don't abuse them they can outlast the car. Not terribly expensive to have replaced, either.
My great grandpa always had a manual transmission too.
10-2013, 2013 chevrolet traverse
9- 2016 nissan altima
8- 2011 nissan rogue
7- 2014 infiniti QX60
6-2011 to 2014 ford fiesta
5- 2011 to 2013 nissan murano
4-2019 kia forte
3- 2012 to 2017 ford focus
2-2013 to 2014 nissan patfhfinder
1-2012 to 2015 nissan sentra.
Ty
Cvt can't handle more than a 1.6 non turbo engine.
OMG: Six out of ten are Nissan cars + crappy CVT trannies.. 😮
So should I reconsider purchasing a 2015 pathfinder? Lol
I have a 2014 Sentra and there's nothing wrong with my transmission. Want to know why...I don't beat the crap out of my vehicle every time I drive it. if people tried taking care of their cars and driving them at a normal speed...not trying to smoke up the tires or do donuts to impress their friends...perhaps, their transmissions will last much longer. maybe, if they took their car in for service once in a while...that might help.
I’m a retired G.M. Technician and retired is because I was tired of doing warranty repairs on Chevrolet Traverse transmissions or anything on the R body for that fact! Now I work at a factory, have a easy job, great hours, benefits, more money, and no more worries.
Smart man.
I had a GMC Acadia that had to have the transmission replaced and then it had to have the pistons replaced.
What's the most reliable GM SUV?
I have owned 3 Buick Enclave's 2011-2014 & 2017 all had the tow pkg. that i ordered and not one of them went back for any warranty and each got 90K on them before i traded them in. I tow a 5x10 enclosed trailer across the U.S 2-3 times a year 2068 miles one way. I think is the way people drive, switching gears while going from on direction to another among other bad driving habits. I cant see where the transmissions are defective after the 2010 upgrades.
I've got a 2004 GMC Savana with the 4.8 liter v8, 240k miles and going on the 3rd tranmission. Engine runs great, tranny, not so much!
This video can be summed up in 10 secs- Looks like you should avoid all Nissans, and definitely pass on a CVT. Bring back the manuals.
Yes! Manuals please!
For that reason, Manuals are expected to disappear.
A MANUAL transmission is a GREAT THEFT deterrent too !
Manuals are pretty much impossible to find anymore.
No. Automatics, the traditional ones with many gears, are better and are more efficient. Manuals are good for developed countries, not traffic-laden ones.
2007 Nissan Altima here at 200k miles. Still goin strong ✔️ take care of your vehicle
I couldn’t agree more. Buy new and ensure the dealership takes the plastic off so no one else has a chance to abuse. Perform required maintenance and drive your vehicle like you actually care about it and a person will have a high probability of a reliable ownership experience regardless of make and model.
only 200 MILES ...come to UAE 2017 models covered 1.75 miles ...
💯 spot on correct. 08 Altima @145k reg.main no issues, leaks or recalls. 30mpg hwy.
Nissan's are notorious for failing CVTs. Nissan dealers are worse at covering it up. My Pathfinder was failing at 60000 miles. The dealer tried to bill me for a new transmission. Then I mentioned I was fully aware of their recall. They replaced it for free... Scammers.
I've been dubious about that CVT ever since its inception! In a nut shell, it sounds like one should only buy a car with a CVT transmission if its brand new and then sell at end of warranty, and never buy one used! A great video. Thank you
Basically... Don't get a Nissan.
Certain years because I still see many of those 2011 or older Muranos on the road.
@David Hill all vehicles have a potential to fail. I'm speaking from My Personal experience and the years that the video mentioned. I see 2005s still being driven in Atlanta.
@@dennismelton2261 Of course years matter. The older the better. The "new (last 10 or so years) are really bad. Their cvts have constant issues, often before 25k miles. My wife had a 2012 Altima. It needed new trans in less than 3 years old. She bought it new. That was replaced under warranty. And in the next few years countless other things went wrong.
@@earthling1984 if that logic is true then tell Me why 2016's are not listed in the video and tell Me why My Murano 2016 (which is newer than a 2011) has yet to give Me any problems, and I've traveled to Florida from Atlanta Georgia on 4 different occasions 6 plus hours one way as well as to My mom's 15 different times and she is 2.5 hours away one way.
The fact of the matter is all vehicles regardless of the make can have glitches in them with only just 4 or 5 thousand miles on them, and with all models depending on the owner if kept up with regularly scheduled maintenance can and more times than not will get one 250k.
@@dennismelton2261 You are lucky your 5 year old Nissan hasn't given you problems yet, especially if you have CVT trans. Good luck with your ticking time bomb.
I owned a JDM Toyota Estima hybrid 08 with CVT and almost 200k km on it and it still going smooth! Toyota is the King of reliable cars
200k is basically like new for a Toyota. You'll easily hit 500
My 2015 Tacoma has had zero issues since new. A+ for reliability.
With the exception of some years having rust issues (which Ive been told Toyota took care of) most Toyotas are unbelievably reliable. Continuous improvement 👍
@@lightningdriver81 fyi, if you find yourself on a limp mode(30mph top speed) Toyota will fix it for free.
Specifically the Fiesta should only be mentioned for the automatic transmission. The 5 speed manual cars were/are great. Both my daughters have them in a 5speed manual with over 100K miles. Only normal maintenance has been required so far. We didn't choose the automatic transmission for the very reason stated in this video. The auto transmission was a dry dual clutch model that was problematic at best. Same transmission story with the Focus automatic in those years.
I have never had a problem with a manual transmission, I started with a 1950 model Ford and have owned many automobiles since then. No problems!
You could easily expand the years on most of the Nissan vehicles mentioned. The Nissan CVT issues are widely known and not limited to one model year.
People are trying to get away with using the cheapest gas because the dealer tells them that they can use it just so they can sell the car. The lower octane gas causes the CVT transmission to malfunction and most people continue to pump cheap gas and drive until it ultimately kills the car.
What boggles my mind is despite the reliability problems with their CVT's, they have continued to use it for DECADES! This is the main reason I have never owned a Nissan, but I have owned a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry and now own a Lexus ES350. I love Japanese cars but avoid Nissan's.
Subaru is the only manufacturer that has current cvt issues. Nissan hasn’t had a widespread cvt issue since 2014. -20 year master mechanic
@@dontcare563 their newer cvt have improved thats why also honda had bigger cvt issues than nissan, difference being honda took the L and replaced/fixed them all.
@@Moistnmeaty90 That's good to know, I bought a Nissan rogue sport 19 with 48,000 ,after finding out it's weakness I immediately changed the transmission fluid,Nissan charged me $27 a quart though 🤬.I'm thinking about using that Amsoil.Also it was really dirty when I changed it, same with my oil, the dealership acted like they changed it when they slapped their oil change sticker on.5¢ oil change from them
I know a lot of people that really need to watch this video. Never go out and just buy the first car that you see.
Agree specially if you are a female & alone ..the sharks at the dealership will kill your with higher cost . Note : never ever go to Toyota Glendale.. the salesmen are cheaters.
137,000 miles on my 2019 Honda insight cvt and still going strong and I drive it like a race car too
You drive it like a race car? Bad move bruh, bad move. 👎
@@4evertrue830 been fine since day one. Been going 115 to 120mph in it on and off and still fine.
@@4evertrue830I'm sure he knows an insight is not a racecar. I doubt he cares a whole lot about it either. Plus I want to hear how long it lasts driving it rough. We need more data if they are going to keep putting these transmissions in cars. 👌🤷
the audacity of youtube to present me with a nissan ad before this video 💀
Scotty was dead right about most in this list
Scotty is dead?
Jadco transmissions
Dotty was right yeah
waving his hands, he tales the truth
@@NIVO1972 You mean Jatco.
"Honey, let's drive up to the mountains. We'll take the Traverse whose bad transmission has plagued us for years and attempt to pass slower vehicles."
I would bet 90% of traverse owners have no idea their car is a shit transmission. I would also bet 90% of traverse owners think they need to change their air filter fluid at each oil change.
Most Traverse buyers work for Avis and Enterprise.
Probably on the way to his mother in laws home...
Made in China I hear...
@@mikeautry2271 America doesn’t need any help making shitty transmissions.
Keep up the good wk
I have a 2002 Toyota Sequoia with 268,000 had alot of stuff done and finally drove out of state with no problems.
Great information amazing work keep up your Great work 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I have a 2014 QX60 and do a partial transmission fluid (dump and fill) every 20,000. Filters are changed every 100,000 miles. It has 170,000 miles and runs like a dream. No issues with the transmission. The big secret is I do it myself and use the recommended fluids.
That's called maintenance
...and as a former Nissan tech
You're doing it right
Congrats.
It doesn’t surprise me to see Nissan rule this list. I have a buddy that worked at the Nissan plant as a quality engineer in Tennessee. Management always stayed on him about “meeting his numbers” and pressured him to let sub quality parts go through the line. Their middle management was filled with narcissistic jerks. He hated it there and eventually quit.
Automatic gearbox especially CVT itself is the problem. Manual transmissions last half million km-s easily
the problem is the JATCO (Nissan) CVT transmission assembly. I doubt they're made in the TN factory. The car's final assembly is in TN.
@@kennygee2715 Whatever. That wasn’t even my point at all. My point is that Nissan pushes quality engineers to meet numbers and push unsatisfactory parts through. Period.
That is so like company where I work. We make steel construction. I was at quality control. When I return something to be fixed than management complain how we do not have time for that, we need to deliver construcion on time and there must be weight as much as can be (because payment is done by weight of construction).
Latter when customer complain, again management complain to me, how could I made that mistake, I must pay attention at quality etc...
Than I am between two fires, quality or number, what ever I pick I will make mistake, because management won't be satisfied.
@@fitfogey I get what you're saying. I guess if quality sucks at the TN plant, it probably sucks at their transmission plants too.
Nissan was a good car company back in the 80' and 90's . I bought a Nissan truck in 86 . Lasted a long time. Only problem I had with it was the tailpipe rusting out. Then Nissan was sold to Renault in 99 and it was straight downhill from there.
My 2012 Ford Fiesta is almost at 100k miles. Transmission was replaced under warranty but I'll definitely be keeping my budget open for something else in the near future.
I have a 1972 Datsun 510 for many years, what a amazing car, nothing like the pos Nissan from nowadays.
Nissan takes the cake when it comes to bad transmissions
they have ditched that cvt and now putting standard transmission
I still say CVTs are too fragile for how people drive their cars. The Sentra if used as an economy car probably wouldn't be so bad, but every time I see one at a red light it tears off when its green.
@@shiftautomotive854so far only in Pathfinder...
@@xxtovarichxx toyota uses cvts but they don't have issues
Most of them was from battery, that feeds electronics of transmission, a lot of people died at mechanics mega-bills, they know of battery problem, but that don’t pay enough..
As a twenty year car tec,you want to avoid all cvt systems.What the stealer ship won’t tell you is by adding a transmission cooler would fix 95 percent of the problems. Most times when you hear about a bad transmission for a specific year,the problem is fixed by adding a bigger transmission cooler thats it.Hope this helps.
We can add a transmission cooler to it?
1. I had the 2014 Ford Focus, and i had that issue. The transmission was replaced twice. I eventually let the car go.
2. I eventually wen to a 2013 Nissan Sentra after i let my Focus go. The caveat is that i got a Sentra with a manual transmission. I am currently on 200k, and it runs great. I replaced the clutch once. Its about tome to change it again. Recently I took a trip from Florida to New Mexico. The car ran like a champ!!
Notice not a single one of these is a Honda or Toyota.
The current honda 6 speed is garbage.
Hyundai Genesis either. I have a 09 , no mechanical issues. 172,000 miles.
The only bad Toyota is a 2007 Camry. Besides that. No issues.
@@MiguelRPD I bought a brand new 1993 Camery, put 300,000 miles on it, no issues.
Hey, go buy a 2003 Honda Odyssey and let me know how that transmission works out for you.
How many of us let out a collective sigh of relief when our vehicles weren’t mentioned? 😰
2019 Jeep with 9 speed owner here. Its twitchy but working.
Bought the extended warranty.
2019 Rav4 Adventure with 8 speed, holding my breath.
I would hope so, my car was $122K brand new. Porsche 😂
Glad to see no mitsubishi on the list, my lancer is still kicking after all these years
The CVT is by concept a Ford Model T transmission. However, it had belts could be changed by the side of the road. When Ford started selling the German designed CVT in several models it became a nightmare and now parts are hard to come by and complete rebuilt transmissions are pricey and no guarantee they would last any longer. My 2005 Ford Escape has 230,000 miles on original alternator and 3.0L V6 with the CD4 transmission still running strong.
On our second Nissan Rogue. First had 111,000 miles. They are awesome cars. No problems with CVT.
Other manufacturers using CVT- Toyota, Honda, Subaru. Better MPG, less maintenance. Maybe there has been problems in the past but I don’t see them going away.
Nissan scored 6 out of 10 on this list. Well done Nissan!
They are speaking about the same 6 cvts in 6 different cars by the same company ..
@@TRPERA Thanks Captain Obvious
At least they scored high in something
My friend had a Nissan from this list and it was an issue before she even had the loan paid off
@@o.3772 Hahaha!
I am driving a 97 Toyota Camry XLE and I have 175,000 miles on it! Had to use my jumper cables to give my coworkers a jump! Both had 2021 cars ! I Love My Toyota!!!!! I keep it maintenance! Oil change ,Belts, air filter, etc! I am so glad to see this video! Any car I get will be A Toyota, again!
Avoid those with 2.4L engines and those with the 2018+ 8-speed auto trans.
@@anonymousinc6330 Toyota's speed transmissions are fine now.
@@marklintwo It only took them four years. Still couldn't pay me to own one. I rented a 2021 about six months ago that had the same problems so many people had previously mentioned.
@@anonymousinc6330 That's not what the Toyota Master Diagnostic Technicians say. 8 speeds are fine, extremely reliable. Some just don't like the feel of it.
@@marklintwo The same Toyota Master Diagnostic Technicians that said I didn't need to change my trans fluid (what's the drain plug in the pan for?) and tried to tell me my water pump could fail at any moment with no signs of leakage? My Camry will never see a dealership again. And yes, I do not like a transmission that jerks under conditions that my six-speed auto does not do so.
I like all the true facts about car problems, and it was also good learning new stuff about how CVT Transmission can appear, I also planned on getting a car maybe a 2014 Volkswagen Passat V6 SE
In 2016 Ford switched from a duel clutch transmission to a traditional six speed automatic transmission for their Focus which might of been in some markets like in Australia at that point in time as we recently purchased a used 2016 Ford Focus that was in great condition and it runs really well and the transmission on it feels absolutely amazing as it’s a six speed automatic transmission and is not a duel clutch one! :)
Had a 2015 Focus (my 7th Ford over 35 years or so) and it went to the shop five times for clutch/tranny issues. Got two programming adjustments, then a totally new clutch pack, then another program upgrade, and a new clutch actuator. I finally got rid of it because after all that it still would quit in the middle of nowhere. Absolutely the worst car I've ever owned, and $1,500 of my money for rentals and another $1,500 for "non-covered" charges, the dealer basically and Ford said no more fixes, so I dumped it...also my last Ford.
@@Beauxtrux
Yeah those transmissions were absolutely awful. What’s also interesting is that Wheels magazine in Australia recently published a list of the top five used cars to consider buying with one of them being the 2017 Ford Focus which has a similar six speed automatic transmission as what was added to the 2015 model in 2016 to replace the awful duel clutch transmission! :)
I can vouch for the 2012 focus. The transmission on ours was replaced 4 times in about 5 years. Finally got rid of that junker! 🙌
Similar issues with my 2013 Focus.
Yes. I have a 2013 ford focus and I had to get mines replaced once so far. SMH
Same with my 2019 gm Tahoe
Same here 14 focus twice in 2 years
2018 focus as well
The likelyhood of me buying a car with a CVT is about the same as buying a house with an HOA.. Roughly zero%
Toyota ecvt is the best auto gearbox around
@@Shane-zx4ps Maybe.. When you never hear of one failing for 200,000 miles then I might consider. I barely trust "traditional" automatics as it is.
@@frankish5314. Have faith brother, I used to be like you, but I trust Lexus/ Toyota
@@Shane-zx4ps eCVT has no steel belt and is nothing like a regular CVT. Toyota offers a dCVT with direct 1st gear which is the best CVT on the market today... hybrid CVTs are a bit of a misnomer
@@frankish5314 Aisin makes the best auto transmissions... they've been Toytotas supplier since forever
Oh wow. I had a 2019 kia forte S and absolutely loved it with no problems. I only had it for 2 years though
HA! LOVE the stick holding up the hood at 8:37
This video finally convinced me that manuals really are the best! Its better to shift manually than not shift at all!
I do not know how to drive a manual and I do not know anyone who would teach because they do not know either. 😢
Agree I d have a manual transmission if I could find one on a vehicle I liked ,but there rarer than Hens teeth.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
I have a manual in my Fiat 500 and besides being fun to drive, it's the best anti-thief device ever.
I took the picture being used as the poster image for this video. The 2012 Kia Sportage’s engine starved itself of oil, just like those in the big Hyundai/Kia recall, yet Kia refused to replace the engine. I posted that picture to Kia’s social media relentlessly because I was (and still am!) pissed off. It makes me so immensely happy to see that pic being used here to continue trolling Kia, even though it had nothing to do with transmission failure.
Chyrsler corp minivans had terrible automatics in years past.I was in a transmission shop saw disassembly very small parts lots of shert metal and tons of plastic.I was amazed they held up at all
I had a 2013 traverse and just traded it in for a new car. It was really good to me. Only real problem was an evaporator replacement. Still ran great at 114k miles.
114k lol that's nothing. Say that when it hits 250k. That's literally break in for Toyota
Scotty has been warning us about the Nissan CVT for many years now
Scotty is a clown😂
@@squirrelcovers6340 Whats your problem with Scotty
@@pennsyltuckyden9823 He's a backyard mechanic and a youtube expert. He knows zip about cars.
@@tooltime9260 Ouch that hurts. But yes, Kilmer is the patron saints of all who know less than cars than he. If you can't see how little he knows about cars, you honestly shouldn't be commenting and outing yourself. Kilmer is a joke.
@@ohger1 The guy was a mechanic before you were running down your Mommys leg.
Very informative... I had a Chevy traverse... Transmission went at 40000 and again at 60000... How do manufacturers get away with this low quality crap?
People keep buying it. Here in the south all the good ole boys talk about how Chevy makes the best cars EVER!
@@brianeighties4481 don't get me wrong...i always had a chevrolet or other gm product but it seems lately they are going backwards in quality built transmissions. this doesn't only apply to gm. I know a guy who bought a one year old bmw and the engine went less than a year later. i know nissan also had serious problems with transmissions. some vehicles even burn oil from new as far as engines go....
@@RailFanRob I haven’t been impressed with GM or BMW in years. If I had to buy either one I’d choose carefully.
Two words: Planned Obsolescence.
The same way Joe Biden got elected.
I had a 2019 Kia Forte before some drunk lady hit my car and it was totaled out by the insurance company. I had the car from Winter 2018 to Spring 2021 and I never had any problems with the transmission. I actually loved that car more than the 2021 Kia Forte I got to replace it. I'm at 30,000+ miles with the 2021 model and no issues with this one yet. I want a new Kia Telluride, but I probably won't be buying anymore Kias, I guess.
Kia is fine, the Telluride is awesome!
@@makaylaserniotti1474Kia is horrible, alongside Hyundai. Kia stands for Killed In Action
I just hit 104,000 in my manual 2013 Fiesta. Zero major issues. So glad I didn't get the automatic.
CVT saves gas, but you give back all of the savings when it fails. Better to get a manual. Better performance, very good gas mileage, and best of all, durable.
Lotsa luck there if you're in the states as manuals are getting tough to come by... very tough. Diesels are even tougher once you get away from trucks.
I've owned two Nissans. Both fell apart around 70,000 miles. Everything else broke just before I had problems with the transmission. My 65 Chevy C10 still runs. I am on my second used engine though.
Not bad for nearly 70 years of service. Long live vintage American trucks.
@@k9er233 57 years. But who's counting. It runs better than me. :)
@@danmadison5087 Brain fart. Math challenged today. Too many late nights and early mornings. Wish I had kept my '49 Advanced Design 1/2 ton.
I had a 2009 Nissan Altima and still going at 213,000 miles. Best car ever. So I guess it depends.
I bought a 2013 Nissan Sentra and have had no problems..great car..drain the cvt fluid once a year .as easy as an oil change.
Must keep the fluid up to date..it not only lubricated, cleans but cools the cvt...I added a cooler too since I live in Florida
10. 2012-2013 Chevy Traverse
9. 2016 Nissan Altima
8. 2011 Nissan Rogue
7. 2014 Infiniti QX60
6. 2011-2014 Ford Fiesta
5. 2011-2013 Nissan Murano
4. 2019 Kia Forte
3. 2012-2017 Ford Focus
2. 2013-2014 Nissan Pathfinder
1. 2012-215 Nissan Sentra
It sounds as if the CBT transmission is he main issue with all of them, so I am guessing that avoiding any vehicle with a CBT transmission might be wise.
Semper Fi!
The rubber belt CVTs are horrible. The pushed steel belt CVTs ,(Toyota/Honda) hold up far better.
I had the opportunity to ask two Nissan engineers at a local softball game about the problems they’re having with CVTs. They said upper level management knows about it and their attitude is as long as it makes through the warranty they don’t care to do anything about it. I guess they don’t care about repeat customers. The grandson worked for Nissan in Dechard, TN , he was very dedicated to buying Nissan products and even bought a new Titan, but couldn’t afford to put gas in it. He traded it in on an Altima, the CVT went out, his wife had bought a smaller Nissan Sentra and now the CVT is giving problems but it’s got 75,000 miles on it and Nissan says sorry.
They don't care and it'll likely be thier undoing eventually, takes years to bring down a large company but I hope whoever "doesn't care" is left broke and alone with nobody to fix except horrible employees that couldn't fix a clogged air filter.
Yet, you keep buying Nissan! No wonder management don't care because people keep buying them.
Same with Subaru. My cousin in Indiana is executive management with Subaru in Lafayette and they pretty much do all they can to deny cvt claims and pretend Subaru problems don’t exist. I can’t tell you the number of late model Subarus I’ve fixed lately as a master mechanic. Subaru’s poor quality is staggering.
@@Moistnmeaty90 yep this is the unlovabe open secret about formerly glorious Subies, which were such great scrappy and useful cars. Such a shame! Incredible how brittle american corporate has become-- even damaging GM which had fairly decent cars for quite some time Just sickening...AND against the national interest, bcuz vehicles are part of critical infrastructure when considered as a unit or system. So the gvt has an interest in promoting quality and punishing lack of it. Gvt's within US territory should buy toota fleets, for sure, and wake these Ford/GM idiots up!
2016 Hyundai Tuscon Sport/Limited 7 spd dual clutch transmission is infamous, anyone who owns one has probably had the misfortune of having the car stop moving altogether in traffic with the notice that the transmission needs to cool down. Also when attempting to accelerate in order to make a left hand turn before oncoming cars the car will just lose all forward motion making it downright dangerous to anyone unfamiliar with this behavior. There was a "software upgrade" which supposedly fixed the complete shutdown issue, but the car never drove properly, I always likened it to being an automatic version of someone who can't drive a manual, that's pretty much how it drove everyday. A new $2400 dual clutch assembly was required at about 60k miles, and a new turbo at about 80k thankfully I had purchased a warranty that covered it. There is a class action lawsuit on these transmissions but Hyundai never really admitted any issues even though they stopped using it. My 1.6T engine threw a rod at 135k mi a few weeks ago and I do not drive aggressively at all, I never even speed, the car is gone now. Sadly the fact that it had a 7 spd DCT was one of the features I initially was attracted by, the motor was surprisingly strong for such a tiny engine, and one thing I can't explain is that it was still going fine on it's original brakes at 135k miles...?
This just reinforces why I drive a 2006 Toyota product
Never will have problems with the transmission.
I have a 2012 Altima with CVT transmission, 224k miles. No problem, still works great. I never had grease/fluid changed, even when dealer insisted it had to be changed. Not sure why some year model CVT Trans is good and next year it's not.
Pure luck, be grateful.
I purchased a Used 2011 Nissan Rogue from carmax back in 2012. It was used as a rental and had about 38,000 miles. Drove it for 3 years (mostly highway miles) and the CVT Transmission started acting up around 73,000 miles.
Took it back to Carmax in 2015 and they bought it back. When I found out later about these CVT's, I'm glad I got rid of it before the transmission failed...
You drove it to 73k miles and didn’t think about changing the transmission fluid? That’s literally the number one reason why all cvt’s fail.
I used to work at nissan as a co-op mechanic and the amount of cars I would get with a blown cvt was more than oil changes... Honda uses cvt, toyota and Subaru but theirs is chain drive cvt not a rubber belt. Idk why tf nissan would use rubber in the first place. Theres a reason why cars use timing chains now and not belts...
I think you are mixing CVT belts with valve timing belts. Rubber belts were used because manufactures claimed customers liked the quieter rubber belts. The real reason was the rubber belts were cheaper. Many manufacturers are going back to chain belts in the valve system because they last much longer. There is no such thing as a chain driven CVT transmission, although the CVT belt does have metal in it. I just bought a 2007 Kia with a manual 5 spd gearbox and a the engine has been replaced with a used one. The clutch and flywheel were replaced last year. i should be able to get another 200K with only light repairs.
CVT uses a steel belt.
Honda and Toyota use a steel gear for first gear when starting to drive, it is called a launch gear then it moves over to the cvt...I know, Scotty Kilmer told me
@@eugeneczerwinskyj3354 And he certainly told you to avoid the Nissan CVT 🤣
Subaru uses an all steel belt (chain). I looked at an actual unit..
Excellent presentation.
Great video 🔥
My friend is a longtime Nissan/Infiniti mechanic. He and all of his coworkers drive Toyota/Lexus.
Interesting to note that nowhere on this list is a manual transmission listed. You can also prevent your car being stolen by getting a manual.
As a European all we really have are manuals so it's crazy to see the entire list just be some form of automatic gearbox
Luke….. I am … not your father
When I hooked up with my wife many years ago she had a Nissan pickup truck.....the transmission went shortly after we got together. Cost me money. Never again.
@@tonykennedy1615 never having sex in a pickup again 😂 or never a manual again or never an auto again 😂
@@lukesalvidge118 I had a Honda Civic at around the same time. It was a standard and one time we banged it into neutral (pun intended) and had quite an adventure. True story. Lol.
Thank you for sharing 🤗💓
I have a ‘23 ALTIMA and I love it. I had a ‘21 but I got rear ended on the freeway and the car was totaled. Without hesitation, I bought the nearly identical ‘23. I heard about the problems with the early versions of the CVT but I feel fine with it. I like the smooth operation and it allows the engine to run nice and slow. 70mph and not even 2000rpm. No turbo either so all things being equal, that engine should last a long time.
I have a 17 frontier and love it. No issues at all. 32k (city) miles on it in 6 years and it stills drives like new.
Agreed. I have 2018 Rouge and the cvt operated just fine. Just remember to change the cvt oil every 40,000km and only do it at authorised service center.
Change the transmission oil at the right intervals. Most people fall under the assumption that their transmissions are sealed. They are not. And Jatco CVT are prone to being faulty due to their design. Regular trans oil changes will keep it from anything untowards happening.
@@zarakdurrani7584 I have every intention of doing that. I’m thinking every 10k. I have the complementary service package so I get so called free oil changes. Not sure if transmission fluid changes are included but it’s good practice. My former’04 MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS lasted 205k from new and never one transmission problem because of regular changes. I know CVT’s are different but same idea in maintenance. Of course I only have 9300 on it now so we’ll see what happens.
just wait.... it'll take a crap soon.
Just wait until you learn about the batteries of Battery powered Electric cars... 8 year old and you have to pay more for a new battery than the value of the car..
And the batteries are made of the most toxic substances on earth. They will charge you big bucks to trash batteries
Tesla and Electric car owners be like “it’s a reasonable price to pay though”
I wouldn’t touch an EV car if they gave one to me for free. Horrible on the environment, not to mention if you were truly in a crisis such as a hurricane leaving Florida and got stuck on one of the interstates for hours no thanks. They keep trying to force these things down our throats no thank you
@@martinr8278 yes
Honda offers a 100k warente on there new models, and many civics and insights have 200k with no issues with the batteries. You can by total rebuilts for about 3k, with a 5 year warrentee. The battery prices are coming down, but the car prices are going up.stay out of car slavery, drive a junker! wont break your heart, or your wallet! and High maintence ladys wont bug you eather!
Moral of the story: avoid Nissan! 6 out of 10! 😲
only get their sports cars like the z and q they tend to last than their average commuters
Jatco CVTs are the worst
Women love them, and no matter what, they'll just buy another Nissan. My sister is notorious for that.
Nissan quality went downhill starting in 2000 when Renault bought them, and Jatco CVT transmissions became standard for them!
@@zyh6566 Men have figured that out, but women keep constantly buying them, cause they give good gas mileage, and they handle well, and all they do is buy another one once the transmission dies. It defeats the purpose of buying another one, but they don't seem to get the message, like buying Chrysler vehicles, they know they're pure trash, but being cute, and have tons of cupholders are more important than reliability.
It all depends on the transmission, I have a 2009 Nissan Murano SL AWD with 412k ish. I regularly change the CVT fluid. I read the CVT doesn’t like heat or sudden acceleration. So I’m sure it helps I don’t accelerate heavily. My coworker owns a 2012 Nissan Juke AWD with 289k, as of last week. In her defense, she doesn’t leave Aquidneck Island in RI, and doesn’t go over 45MPH. Her Juke should last forever lmao
Still, with an aisin in a Toyota or Hondas i4 pairing.. with that mentality they are 30 year cars. How much is the fluid for an average change?
289K at 45 mph and she never leaves the island?
@@davidanderson8469 yes lol. She has high anxiety when driving. Are you familiar with Aquidneck Island?
I was in her car today and she is now at 292,632k
I'm glad I have. Mazda CX 5. Love it.
SAVE THE MANUALS!!!!
Would give eye teeth for a three peddle truck with a two knob am radio .
@@dodfallin AGREED!!!!!!!
Only a few manual models being made now. I think Hyundai recently axed their accent manual transmission 😞
Dealership don't want to carry them!!! Had to call Honda int. so to convince them to order a manual !!!
And to think the new civics don’t have a manual option 😭
Guess we gotta buy track/sport cars to get manuals from now on
The CVT is the “poster child” for shitty transmissions
Want a reliable, robust transmission? GET A MANUAL!
Agreed!! Have you noticed that they've virtually stopped making manual transmissions? Makes you wonder...
@@johnhunter7386 back when I had my ‘07 VW Rabbit, I got 140k off the stock clutch and transmission fluid, what “killed” it? Road salt… at 140k with stock components, the transmission was still rock solid, no clutch slippage/wear…
Total transmission maintenance/repair costs over the 7 years I owned it? $0.00!
From where? Only ones left are on sports cars, jeeps, and Tacomas. Less then 5% of vehicles have them now. Don't need a muscle car, will never buy jeep, and any Toyota is twice the price of its competitor.
YUP! After my 2nd transmission just blew up on my Chevy Trailblazer (otherwise super reliable), I am DONE with automatics. We just sold it for cheap and are shopping for a MT compact. GM, Nissan, and apparently Ford AT's are terrible!
@@2WhiteAndNerdy ALL automatics are terrible, period. Unless the driver has a legitimate medical issue, the automatic is just an excuse for lazy driving (as are all the nannyware “assists”)
My clunky old ‘10 Honda Fit may be underpowered, slow, and cheap, but it has a manual transmission, handles like a go cart, and has NO nannyware or assists, not even traction “control”, the way it should be! The only modern “assist” it has is ABS…
My Jeep Grand Cherokee 00 had transmission issues. At 150000 miles the transmission trashed out. My Mechanic found out that the spring in the 3rd shift gear would break. He did save me a small fortune by having the transmission guy just replace that spring
That's really great 👍 information, Colonel Jamal from dubai
I bought a Traverse brand new back in 2012. Not one hiccup. It's never been in for servicing. Still going strong.
You should be thanking God.
Around the 4 min mark, Yes! I had a 2013 Jx35 now called the Q60 Infiniti. The transmission went around 70k miles literally 4 months after my 5 year warranty expired ,😢$3800 later, I got it fixed but traded it in 2 years later before it hit the 100k mark as the Infiniti sales guy suggested. From my transmission mechanic is where I learned about the CVT transmission being a flop👎🏼. Sadly, I loved my 2004 Nissan so much which is what made me get the Infiniti as an upgrade. Thanks for this video.
CVTs work great in an industrial environment where speeds and load are constant. Driving in a variable environment with a heavy foot like it’s a regular automatic will kill these things. I worked in a factory for 12 years that used dozens of them and we only had 2 failures.
I’ve been in transmission Business for a lot of years keep buying Ford and Nissan they keep us in business!! we never see a Toyota!! and when we do they have over 300k
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I am curious to know if Nissan finally addressed that transmission problem across all their models?? That CVT has been the subject of numerous complaints going back to 2012 but Nissan kept putting it in their vehicles and it seemed they didn't care about customer satisfaction. An automobile manafacturer that does that doesn't deserve to remain in business.
Nope...
I know they have started in some, the 2022 Pathfinder has a 9 speed automatic vs. the old CVT
My 2010 Altima is still on its first CVT transmission with more than 140,000 miles. It is just now starting to worry me with odd noises and vibrations.
I don’t know anything about cars, but I know I don’t want one with a CVT transmission…
@@michaelkeogh8454 serviced it?
My 2015 civic LX has 130k on its CVT and I change the trans fluid every 30k basic drain and fill and it still runs like a champ
My hubby bought a 1989 Toyota Tacoma basic pick up truck and commuted daily from the Cape to Boston around 130 miles a day. It never broke down and when he got rid of it it had 450.000 miles on it. Every thing was turning rusty but was still running. We only buy Toyotas.
Missed the 2010-2012 Chevy Equinox. Daughter had one and Transmission went out at 110,000 miles. Googled it and they had a ton of transmission issues on this year of Equinox
dont forget the $1k charge to install a new water pump as well. GM engineers. Its not the part thats expensive, its all the damned labor because of what you gotta take apart.
You’re right also my friend’s girlfriend has one and she relies on it to get to school and work the trans mission drop on the highway under 100k . After all that the insurance company only paid out 85% .
at 110,000 miles not bad.
How many times did she change the automatic transmission oil? On the equinox it's 45k miles so she should have done this twice. Biggest problems for vehicles in this era is that people buy cars they can't afford and don't do oil changes, filter changes, etc. and vehicle inspections. Oil levels used to be checked at every fill up but now are routinely run dry until engine failure.
I sold my with 200K miles. No issues
I worked for a Kia dealership from 2003 to 2005 (as a technician. The most common repair on every model was replacing the automatic transmission. There were air cleaners that we didn't replace enough to keep in stock, but we always had 2 or 3 transmissions in stock for each model. I have never replaced, or seen being replaced, so many automatic thansmissions being replaced in my life, and never un such new cars with such low mileage.
I would be very surprised if KIAhas learned to build an automatic transmission, or a wiring harness for that matter, since then.
But they did stand behind those crappy transmissions … Gotta give them credit for that.
@@sking2173 Yeah, they did, but it wasn't much comfort to the customers who went through 3 of them before they got one that lasted.I( saw that happen a couple of times while at that dealership (fortunately, it didn't happen on any of my repair orders.).
@@douglaspage2398 - Kia’s not the first to have these problems. Back in the 70’s, Honda’s automatics we’re junk. In the 80’s, GM’s FWD 125 and 440 transmissions were garbage. Ford’s DCT used in the Focus was a disaster.
Point being, Kia’s not alone, here.
Kia has serious engine problems as well.
@@anneweller1412 actually, I didn't have to do a lot of engine work, mostly wiring ( KIAs were the worst) driveability related electronics. The Óptimas had a design flaw (not enough lateral support) that made the windows pop out if the tracks rediculously soon.
Im surprised that you didn't include the 2013-2016 Chevy Spark in your list, in fact it probably would have ended in the top two of the worst with the notorious CVT transmission.
Also chevy Cruze. Terrible pick up. Slippy transmission.
I worked in new and used auto parts supplier for 3yrs, and we sold 3 times more used nissan cvt transmissions versus any other model
Can't go wrong with a 'Yota or Honda! 💪🏾
Honda made some lemons. I had one.
I have a 2010 Nissan Murano and I LOVE it it's got 154,000 miles and still running great sooo smooth
I got a 2011 rouge and I love it as well
Basically all these problems are due to manufacturers trying to get good gas mileage. But the cars get maybe 1 mpg more than cars 30 years ago. They keep adding more weight as well. Make it make sense
I liked the CVT transmission in my 08 Altima Coupe. Only transmission I have ever seen that automatically adjust to a lower gear going down hill. It did fail at 36k miles and Nissan replaced it with out any drama. They also extended the warranty to 120k miles on the transmission. Sold it at 80 k miles as I bought a VW that gets 30% better fuel economy and was cheaper for insurance. Also the VW don't have battery powered tire pressure sensors that fail every 8 years. All the Korean and Japanese cars do and they can add $300 to $500 to a tire replacement. Have a great day
I change my trans fluid in my 2009 Civic with Honda synthetic every 40, 000 km. It works perfect. I've had
it for 7 years.
Hondas cvt is rated as #1 now for years. The new Toyota with a actual 1st gear might give it a run for its money.
The Honda CVT's seem to be pretty reliable not one Honda or Acura on the list of shame!
I was told by a Hertz maintenance manager that CVT transmissions need fluid changes every 40,000 miles, or every 30,000 miles under severe service conditions. Recommended that the CVT fluids be changed at a dealership, and that you keep your service records in a safe place in case you need to claim it against any warranty.... Hyundai/Kia and Nissan especially.... despite the fact that these manufacturers say that the CVT transmission fluid is LIFETIME. Its a complete lie!
Fluid is usually always the issue and consumers know no better because the dealer and the manufacturer tend to claim it's lifetime fluid.
I had a 2007 Ford Freestyle with a CVT. One of the technicians at the Ford dealer told me they were seeing some issues with them before 75,000 miles. He also told me to change the fluid every 60,000 miles, so I did. Made it to 180,000 miles with no issues.
Thanks 😊 🙏.
People don't like good advice, they rather listen to the gimmicks, and roll with it. I only buy used vehicles, cause I hate GDI vehicles, and any vehicle I buy, I change the fluids, spark plugs and ignition coils, the battery if it's over two years old, the lights, change the brakes and rotors, if needed, get the charging system checked under a load test, and check the tires out, just to be safe. I know people are going to say why didn't I do that before I got the vehicle, and my answer to that is that is I don't trust people words to much, especially if it's a new vehicle I'm about to own. People lie too much, or they put cheap parts on just to sell a vehicle. Does that make more sense, since I work on my own vehicles?
@@curtiswilson4737 Trust me, I get what you're saying, as I've wrenched on my on vehicles my whole life. Partly because I know how, have tools and trust my work. Partly to save money. Only Airbag recall issues were performed at a dealer. That said, I believe your replacement list is a bit overkill. If the vehicle is good upon inspection, why replace known good parts?
After watching this video for the first time I am amazed you do not have the 2013 Ford Escape on here. These vehicles are notorious for the transmissions going out. It is very wise for anyone who has one or thinking of buying one should do the research. I know many people who have and ended up spending $3000.00-4000.00 to have the transmission replaced.
I was just as surprised as you were, waiting all along for the ford 2013 escape to b the worst
We had purchased one with about 135,000 miles on it from auction, car was the cleanest ever in and out, original paint, no rims scratches whatsoever, clean leather seats,…etc. One week later, check engine light on, you guess it, transmission. Before we can even get it fixed, some rattling noise pops up when turning either side but mainly left anywhere from 0-20 miles per. It’s the differential. The Mecanic said the previous owner tried to fix the transmission but wasn’t successful, otherwise it wasn’t all bad, so we caught a break on that one!!
That isn't true. The 6F35 is actually a pretty good box as long as they get a fluid swap every 35K miles or so and they get Mercon V and not a "universal" fluid change. I don't see many of these and there are a LOT of them running around.
Thank you for the facts
Great info! Soon to be in the market for a good used car. Have to keep these things on the mental bulletin board. 👍🏾