Linear vs Classic: Analysis & Why you Should Switch | Apex Legends
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- In this video I discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each response curve in Apex and break down exactly why they work the way they do.
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0:00 Intro
0:22 Basic Recommendations
1:09 Linear vs Classic
3:07 4/3 Linear Small Deadzone
3:34 Summary
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Most professional/educational vid I’ve ever seen on sensitivity , you nailed every important topic , Fantastic vid my friend!
I agree he needs more likes
nice video, you did a good job of visualizing the response curves of linear and classic
Also worth mentioning that looking up ALC conversion charts would be your best friend if you're not lazy and want to fine-tune your aim. I had to do this because 4/4 was too fast, 4/3 was too slow and 5/3 as well as 5/4 were a bit too slow/fast, respectively.
ALC may not be for everyone, but coming from the new MW2, it's been very helpful in very closely matching my MW2 sens so I don't have to retrain my muscle memory for apex specifically. ALC is very powerful, BUT ONLY IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT. District has a video detailing every ALC option and it helped me figure out which settings to tweak so you should consider doing a guide on how to find your perfect sens for ALC!
Been looking for this exact info thank you so much
Look up the ALC Conversion chart you can create a much better profile that lets you push to the boundary of what your controller and thumbs can achieve. You can also find a middle ground between Linear which is a 0 setting and Classic which is a 10 so that you have 0 dead zone and minimal stick drift. Keep in mind pros change out their controllers regularly so stick drift is rarely a problem they have to deal with for long.
i rarely say thank you to people explaining me stuff but man was this helpful and well put togheter.. so thank you
Rob you did so good thank u so much your a apex genius and you work hard on this video so I want to thank u for the help u provided all of us
What a nice video of this topic. Keep on the good work
Thanks for the tips!
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks .. this really helped👍🤩
Just the video that I needed! I'm playing linear from now on, thank you so much!
Also try ALC 8 deadzone, 1 threshold, 5 response curve , 170 yaw and pitch, 0 extra yaw and pitch,0 ramp up, 120 ads yaw and pitch, 0 extra yaw and pitch, 0 ramp up
@@Fretzton Am coming off classic to linear. Would your settings help?
@@jueviolegrace5915 I would define those settings as a better linear, but maybe you have to customize the ads speed to your likings since this would be leaning to slow ads
@@jueviolegrace5915 altho lately I've been rocking 4-4 steady with none deadzone
10/10 VIDEO!
yo bro you video are huge. But I have a question for you, what are you aim lab settings for a 4/3 linear small deadzone ?
Thanks a lot! You set:
-Game Profile to “Apex Legends”
-game units to “in-game”
-scroll down to sensitivity options and select “simple”
-scroll back up and change sensitivity to “4” (that’s the “4” in 4-3 linear - you don’t need the 3 because you usually only hipfire in aimlabs)
-and for controller curve I can’t remember what it’s called but it should either be “linear” or “raw input”, something like that
From there, I’d recommend taking off aim assist but that’s up to you. If you have any issues, check out Dazs’ video “Apex Legends to Aim Lab Sensitivity”
Great vid, very detailed.
Last couple of month i’m wondering how in 4 years (even more, because titanfall had this too) non of the data-miners didn’t find the EXACT numbers for converting standard settings to alc. All of this conversion charts didn’t really work for me, something wrong with them, all of them are just guess-work.
Because the way that default sensitivities are set up makes it impossible to actually replicate in ALC’s, I’m fairly certain the way the ramp ups function in default sensitivities are something irreplicable in ALC’s
Yeah the conversion charts aren’t even accurate. All I can really say is that the default ADS yaw and pitch matches 3 ads fairly closely . The extra yaw and pitch makes it faster don’t need to be added on. Just wish respawn would add something that could basically copy and paste each setting onto ALCs so then you can work off it to make it feel better
The beach stealth ultra is great
I’ve played 500/500 0 deadzone 0 response curve ALCs for like 2 years and recently switched to 4-3 linear no deadzone and my aim has already been more consistent. I only wish there was a setting between 4 and 5 but I don’t want to go back to alcs because I change them around every 5 min 😅
The jump between 4 and 5 feels MASSIVE right?
Fr man every day I’m changing like 3 4 times a day although they’re small changes it feels like your gonna hit the sweet spot but then I ended up not liking something I even feel sometimes like my tracking went from good to trash
Should I use classic or linear I’m aggresive and I need better aim
@@jakemason3815 use linear if you’re planning on getting better. It’s better for tracking. Classic is for casuals
0 response curve 400 hipfire 120 ads has been my favorite by far. 4-3 is so boring makes the game mad boring
good video
I see this option what's better
Feel like my aim is more snappy just apmed up the sensitivity linear
Am i crazy for playing on 4-3 small deadzone steady?
you would be crazy if you arent hardstuck diamond
@@BenutzernameXY diamond? I quit apex a bit ago idiot
Has anyone had any luck replicating dynamic response curve from warzone?
From the look of it, it sounds like ALCs with response curve 7 or 8 and a touch of extra yaw
@@RobPlaysTooMuch already tried but thanks anyway
do you recommend linear or classic if on console 60fps?
If you’re playing on a TV on narrow FOV then play linear all the way. If you’re on max or near-max FOV then I’d pick the response curve that matches your gameplay style
Just stick to classic on console tbh but you can give it a try if you like you may find yourself changing it back
@@iKeisu what makes u say that?
@@julian5164 console 4:3 linear is to quick for 60 fps. if they update it to 120 fps it would be great. so 3:2 linear or classic is better on consoles
Alc is top notch.
0% deadzone, 31% outer deadzone, 5 response curve
250 yaw, 200 pitch, 250 extra yaw (max), 250 extra pitch (max), 10%response ramp up, 0% delay
130 ads yaw, 120 ads pitch, max extra ads yaw and max ads extra pitch, 10% ramp up time 5% delay. I found this as the best tbh, because u basically have 2 senses with the outer deadzon being a really high one thta you can use to do a 180° turn in < 1 second and a slower sense in the center that you can aim with. I use this sense to hit some pretty good controller movement.
I pretty much always run something similar to this. Being able to instantly turn around is important and being able to scan Bangalore smoke quickly with digi is important too
Does Steady fall between classic and linear? I used 5-5 Steady for a very long time before switching to ALCs. When Season 16 started though, it felt like something changed and I started having to adjust my ALCs to get the same feeling as Season 15. It's not working out well and I'm thinking about using steady again or linear.
I’m not sure that steady is reproducible with ALCs. ALCs can only produce exponential growth-like curves and some response curves in games like Halo are shaped different than these. I just made an ALC video, the settings I showcase at the end of that video have been getting good reviews, albeit mostly from Classic players
@@RobPlaysTooMuch Thank you!
After using different sensitivities and controllers I can definitely agree with the two options given here as they naturally provide the best overall sensitivities that ALC can provide. For those interested in ALC, be extremely careful and patient. ALC is really for those who understand their controller, playstyle, and hand anatomy. I do believe ALC is overall better but you have to set the sensitivity right and not constantly change them, as I did when experimenting. I will leave a list here of what is generally good for ALC
Deadzone: 3-10 (keep at wherever controller has little to no stick drift, extremely important)
Outer threshold: 2 (changing it only yields slight sensitivity adjustment, no point in changing it
Response curve: 0 (if not 0 then just use classic settings as being somewhere in between yields too much variability)
Ads yaw/pitch speed: 200 to 350 (preference/playstyle based)
Yaw/pitch speed: 200 to 350 (preference/playstyle based)
Per optic sensitivity: none, too much variability
Extra turning pitch/yaw for ads and hipfire: preference/playstyle, generally at least a little bit is good
Final note: nothing is better than practice, don’t get too caught up with changing sensitivity and use something you are comfortable with. For players in their first year of apex just use either of the settings recommended in the video. I can’t emphasize this enough but ONLY use ALC if you are a die hard fan of the game, its too big of a rabbit hole to go through
When i use ALC i feel like i have less aim assist. I prefer normal sensitivity like 4-3 linear. i believe is the best sens.
@@therese3803 more speed is ess aim assistant. its equal to linear settings.
It is my personal belief that pure linear is handicapping one's potential. I think anyone who is good on linear would be that much better with a 3-5 response curve.
Good explanation. Should probably have explained extra pitch/yaw as its an important aspect of classic. For more committed players I think its worth mentioning that if you want to really map out the counter pattern to control recoil, having a lower sens allows you to use more of the stick to do it. It's basically impossible to counter map a recoil pattern properly with high sens, especially linear because the tiniest movement of your thumb shifts your aim so much. Players like AidanTheDestroye and Smeggytoe explained and showed this quite well in the firing range by absolutely lasering targets from a distance. With linear recoil seems to smooth itself to a degree but you just can't get that perfect muscle memory counter pattern control like on low sens classic.
Nothing is better in my opinion than 4:3 Linear with small deadzone.
None deadzone is even better
@@milanodeschnitzel7495 Hey i am new to controller i play 4:3 Linear no deadzone i don't understand what is the differnce between no deadzon and small deadzone . pls explain :D
@@xnagaoriginal921ik im late but deadzone helps with stickdrify
@@TakeNotes2 But no deadzone makes you more accurate or smt ? A lot of people say you should get used to the stick drift and still do no dz .
@@xnagaoriginal921 nah its no deadzone makes you be able to make smaller adjustments since it automatically will move with a small adjustment instead of waiting because of small deadzone
Personally recommend 4-3 linear no deadzone
What movement deadzone I never can figure out which movement deadzone small or large
@@hunterhunter8491 small, always
I run 6-5 small deadzone linear
It feels nice but it's hard for me to aim further
I'm confused, doesn't linear have zero aim acceleration?
You got it, linear has no aim acceleration and “starts” at the set velocity, classic has to accelerate to the set velocity. Some people actually don’t know that so the graphs help those people!
@@RobPlaysTooMuch i was confused because i thought linear always moved at a single speed across all thumbstick inputs.
to elaborate,
in ALCs, 0 response curve with 0 extra yaw/pitch and 0 ramp ups moves the same distance in-game no matter how far you push your thumbstick. but in default linear, there is clearly a change-up in speed / ramp up.
so my question is, is default linear not actually raw input? o-o
@@_deffed I see what you mean. 4/4 linear for example ramps up linearly, without a curve. That is to say that you’ll have a graph like this:
• thumbstick 25% to the side - 180°/s
• 50% to the side - 360°/s
• 75% to the side - 540°/s
• 100% to the side - 720°/s
Those are just example values for reference. That IS the raw input that the right stick registers because the analog stick uses analog inputs, unlike the keyboard which uses digital inputs. You push it a little an you spin slowly. You push it a lot and you spin quickly. Classic rounds the response curve so you might have something like this:
• thumbstick 25% to the side - 90°/s
• 50% to the side - 200°/s
• 75% to the side - 450°/s
• 100% to the side - 720°/s
I wasn’t aware that what you’re describing was possible to create with ALCs either. That’s more like a claw machine
@@RobPlaysTooMuch yeah so with linear u build more muscles memory then other curves
W shirt
Linear is best once you master it
Facts.
Like a car linear you hit the has and that baby goes. I should of done my home work and watdh this video way before
nice shirt
I have created some of the best ALCs in my opinion for a middle ground between both sides and full aim assist use
Don’t just hold back ‘em back, what are the settings?!
@@RobPlaysTooMuch I’ll make a short video cuz they’re kinda complex, but personally the best thing about them is they’re consistent with aimassist and even in Bangalore smoke you can control your movements
drop the settings!
@@TheOfficial_AW what are they??
don't leave us hanging mate 😢
Can't control recoil
On Linear its much easier to control. When shooting just slightly aim your stick downward and it will be much smoother. Cannot so this on classic
On classi you need to fight against stick. On linear recoil is almost zero
6-5 classic no look deadzone.