How To Stream Multiple Views To Twitch From One PC Using OBS And Discord

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  • @TechNuovo
    @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +12

    How many of you currently stream like this with your friends? Let us know, we'd love to check out how you've designed your overlays and streams.

    • @bigheaddeepfreeze4387
      @bigheaddeepfreeze4387 Před 2 lety +3

      We stream in a group of 3. This was very helpful on how to get multiple povs. as of right now, we only show 1. 👍

    • @LivePingJoe
      @LivePingJoe Před rokem

      I got all of this down, now I’m just trying to figure out how to stop the double echo from my teammates mic, me and buddy stream in the same room and we don’t catch each others voices but our teammates and gameplay doubles on stream.. if you can reach back that would be awesome!

    • @elizabethhalsey4925
      @elizabethhalsey4925 Před 4 měsíci

      Can you just share one mic? That’s what my husband and I do

    • @justinphillis9598
      @justinphillis9598 Před 25 dny +1

      My wife and I are getting ready to stream some gaming and had no idea how to do this. After brief research I thought we'd both need OBS, possibly 2 capture cards, and even potentially a 3rd computer to sync it all up... Your one OBS + Discord (which we already use) is more than game changing for us! Now I'm excited to create a few overlays for depending on how many friends we're gaming with! Thank you so much!

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 25 dny

      @@justinphillis9598 This makes me happy! Thanks for checking out the content and I'm glad it could help you with your setup! Good luck with the new overlays and streams!

  • @hellohogo
    @hellohogo Před 3 lety +6

    This was a great video and kind of rare actually. Most people on twitch seem to be using discord this way, but there aren't any tutorial videos about it, besides your of course. Good job!

  • @Mandypr
    @Mandypr Před 3 lety +3

    You helped me so much with this video and the one before this one. Im starting to use OBS for work and video conference calls. Everything you explained was just perfect and exactly what I needed to customize my own stream for a different purpose. THANK YOU. You saved my life.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      You’re welcome and glad it helped you out 🤙

  • @geometry10686
    @geometry10686 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Exactly the video i needed and was looking for. Great tutorial. Thank you so much.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 5 měsíci

      Smashing! Thanks for checking it out!!

  • @Kaotic7707
    @Kaotic7707 Před 2 lety +2

    Great tutorial. This was exactly what I was looking for and for that I will subscribe.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Awesome, thank you! Very glad ir helped,

  • @HULTXV
    @HULTXV Před 3 lety +2

    i usualy never sub or like any video on youtube but this tutorial deserves both a sub and a like very informative

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      Honoured! Glad you found it useful though 👍

  • @cooliomo
    @cooliomo Před 2 lety +1

    OMG YES!!! Thank you for this amazing tutorial!

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety +1

      You are welcome! We have a few others on the channel aswell that may help 👍

    • @cooliomo
      @cooliomo Před 2 lety +1

      @@TechNuovo Excellent! Thank you for reaching out!

  • @snapbacknerds4802
    @snapbacknerds4802 Před 2 lety +1

    With the other three people streaming do you have a delay with there gameplay? Buddy and I stream like this and I host everything on my end with my PC and on average he comes thru about 1 to 1.5 seconds behind.

  • @rasmussvensson6324
    @rasmussvensson6324 Před 3 lety

    Hi
    Thanks for the amazing tutorial!
    But I need help whid one thing, I have problem whid droped frames.
    Streamimg computer:
    Gtx 1060 6gb
    8gb ram
    I5 8400 2.8

  • @RocketQueen71
    @RocketQueen71 Před rokem

    Hiya Tech Nuovo ! How's it Rockin'? I have a question,if it'sok to ask. I use Streamlabs . It was working fine for a while but all of the sudden , it would drop frames and i don't know what's going on with it. It's been frustrating and stressing me out . so, i have been using my cellphone for a short time. But, i really want to use my streamlabs again. Btw, I uninstalled it a few times and it's still dropping frames. I would appreciate any suggestions and any help on this issue(s). Thank you, in advance.😎

  • @JSMStormy
    @JSMStormy Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! We have a couple other tutorials on the channel about streaming, check them out, they may help

  • @Cjtpine
    @Cjtpine Před 2 lety +1

    This is awesome!!! But, quick question what would some other ways of doing this be? 3 pcs 2 capture cards? NDI?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      You could do that, but that would mean a super complex setup, not just from the multiple capture cards you'd need for HDMI inputs for capturing, plus you'd need to consider audio inputs into that one streaming PC if you're all recording from one place. It's doable, but it's complex :) There are ways to stream to a server before outputting to a Twitch stream, so I would give that a look first, so all gamers are streaming from their PC to one server, and then outputting to a livestream.

  • @thatspranav8227
    @thatspranav8227 Před 3 lety

    Is it possible to record 4 different perspectives and possibly webcams for youtube? Can we show our screen through discord but talk through another platform such as google meet or something.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      Yes, this is entirely possible. You can either record the video or directly stream to CZcams and do something live. If you're capturing your webcams through Discord, I would recommend talking through Discord too. But, if that's not possible, then I'd suggest trying to capture the webcam and voice from another source, so the webcam is being captured where the voice is coming from. It'll save you trying to add delays to video and audio to sync the different sources.
      Also, if you're just capturing gameplay from Discord, then it's fine to capture voice and webcam from another source like Google Meet.

  • @thecount2094
    @thecount2094 Před 3 lety +1

    Also can u video chat on discord and have ur webcam on for obs at the same time ? Or would u have to video chat on discord so ur friend could window capture it and also window capture for your own stream if you both wanna stream with multiple friends

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      For my capture card, the Elgato HD60 Pro, I can capture my Sony DSLR with both OBS and Discord. However, I have known webcams to choose one or the other. If you're recording a chat show/podcast style stream, then personally, I would put all of your cameras into Discord, and then import multiple Discord windows into OBS, so you all get the chance to see eachother when you're talking.

  • @judrahos
    @judrahos Před 9 měsíci +1

    Do you run into delay with this? Where your friends feed is slightly behind yours? I did the same with his twitch and had to delay my video and audio to match

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yep, one of the players had a delay on Discord. I wouldn't pull the feed from Twitch, because your friend's stream will already be delayed. Go through a VoIP service... Discord, Zoom, Teams etc.

  • @tumskie8892
    @tumskie8892 Před 3 lety +2

    Hello! I was able to do this but my friend's stream and cams turned out pretty laggy and I am confident that me and my friends have good PCs and internet. What are some factors to the lag? Is it a CPU or internet problem?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      That sounds like it could be an internet issue I'm afraid. I experienced the same thing with one of my friends when we were playing a game of Siege. Their gameplay was laggy.

  • @MissionMusician
    @MissionMusician Před 3 lety +1

    When doing it as described in the video, I am hearing my friends game play which makes it hard to play. Hes opening doors and I think its an enemy near me....but its him 200 meters away. Any ideas on how to fix this issue?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      Yep. Mute their gameplay on Discord.

  • @devine_noise
    @devine_noise Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for doing this tutorial. Did you ever make an audio tutorial? I want to set up audio so we can hear each other but not ourselves.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Not sure what you mean by not hearing yourself?

    • @devine_noise
      @devine_noise Před 2 lety +1

      I make music and want to have a remote guest hear the music but cant think of a way he can do that without just watching my stream but then he would hear everything he says through the stream audio.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem

      You could set up a Discord video call in the background, and share your PC audio that way. It might be a little delayed, but nowhere near what it is when watching through Twitch. You could even use something like Zoom, MS Teams, or similar as well.

  • @NerdingKimandLia
    @NerdingKimandLia Před 2 lety +1

    Hi!! I have a problem, when i captured the discord windows i couldn't cut it it just kept getting smaller :/ i couldn't get only the webcam

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Did you hold down the right key when cropping the window?

  • @franciscoayon9470
    @franciscoayon9470 Před 2 lety +1

    How to stream like in the minute 10:35,do all players need a computer or so,my friends and I play codm,we all do have discord and so but only 1 streams

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      All players will need to be able to share their screens in some way with the host streamer.

  • @orokmusic694
    @orokmusic694 Před 2 lety

    Audio is my main issue here. There doesn't seem to be a way to separate my friends gameplay audio from mic audio in Discord (makes sense as it's one output) Even if we use another program for his voice audio (plenty of options for that) is there a way to switch between Discord (his game audio) and my gameplay per scene? Rather than split 1 screen in half and only have my gameplay audio, I've made 2 scenes, 1 that focuses on his gameplay with my screen up in the corner and vice versa. I'd love to be able to switch the gameplay audio around whilst keeping the conversation audio constant. Do you reckon this is possible?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Great question. And yes, it's a difficult task as Windows by default is very limiting with audio sources, as everything comes into one output.
      I've found this resource here: obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-set-up-your-own-private-rtmp-server-using-nginx.50/
      It means you'll have to set up your own RTMP server so people can stream from their OBS software directly to your server, for then you to output the data from your server to Twitch/CZcams wherever.
      Alternatively... if you're using multiple software (one for sharing screen and one for chatting (Discord for video sharing and Teams for comms) you could in theory use virtual audio outputs. Something like VBAudio vb-audio.com/Cable/
      Not sure completely how it works though so some experimenting might be in order.
      But in theory, you could set your Discord audio to Virtual Sound 1 to capture your buddy's game audio, and set your Teams to Virtual Sound 2, and then in OBS, bring in multiple audio input captures to bring everything together. Then from here, set everything to Monitor + Output so you can still hear the audio coming into OBS (your friend's voice) and set things like game audio to output only.
      I'm just theorizing here. I haven't actually done it, but it will definitely make a great tutorial video. So thanks for tthe idea :D
      Please keep me posted if any of these options work though, would be great to hear your findings. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

    • @orokmusic694
      @orokmusic694 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TechNuovo thanks. I'll pick through this later. I've downloaded 2 extra virtual cable from VB and I'm yet to test them. The other thing that was recommended was Stream Ninja I think. Remote streaming that can be imported as a URL into OBS. Anyway, thanks for your time. I'll keep you updated.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      @@orokmusic694 Never heard of Stream Ninja, but VOD.Ninja I think is the same thing right? That's another way it could be done. Pull in your friend's stream from a URL host. That'll be quite simple to do I should imagine.

  • @bobbyfrank4526
    @bobbyfrank4526 Před 3 měsíci +1

    i tried this but when i click out of discord the stream of my friend is lagging.. i feel like if i click into my game, discord goes on a low performance mode or something.. so i cant stream my friends screen when i play sea of thieves.. do i need discord nitro for this?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 měsíci

      No. I haven't used Discord Nitro when doing this video. What you could try is lowering the bitrate of the video so you can more easily encode it.

  • @thecount2094
    @thecount2094 Před 3 lety +3

    How do u get the game footage on discord? And nice tutorial! I was literally looking around for a tutorial like this

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +3

      Discord now has a feature where you can stream to people within a group. When you enter a voice chat room, there's a button on the bottom left that says Share Screen and up to 10 users I believe can share their screen at the same time in Discord.

    • @thecount2094
      @thecount2094 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TechNuovo ok nice! Thanks

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      You're welcome. Thanks for checking out the tutorial. Glad it helped 😁

  • @seanstey
    @seanstey Před 3 lety +1

    i can't seem to window capture anything else than my LOL launcher. everything else gives me a black screen.... Streamlabs is running as administrator... game capture and game launchers have no issue being catured but even chrome won't get captured... any idea? cheers for the great video tutorial.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Do you minise the windows you're trying to capture? All windows that you're trying to capture need to be open.

  • @angelofdeath9693
    @angelofdeath9693 Před 3 lety +1

    This is awesome but I need some help! Me and my friend want to both stream a game at the same time and have each other’s video camera on each other’s stream. Any suggestions?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      Usa Discord and share your screens and cameras at the same time, like I have in the tutorial with Nick. Both people will have to have their own OBS to build a scene to stream to each individual Twitch account.

    • @angelofdeath9693
      @angelofdeath9693 Před 3 lety

      @@TechNuovo easy enough ❤️ one last question - can this work in streamlabs?

    • @mikeysobczak3042
      @mikeysobczak3042 Před 3 lety +1

      @@angelofdeath9693 yes, I use this same method in streamlabs

  • @selinamartin6269
    @selinamartin6269 Před 3 lety +1

    Do you need two monitors for your pc in order to do this? Or is one monitor okay?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      Nope, one monitor is absolutely fine, as long as you don't minimise your Discord window.

  • @NxNmarriedgamers
    @NxNmarriedgamers Před 2 lety +1

    hello were a streaming couple who is having an audio issue. we've saw this video and love the way you had outlaid it when it came to the visual now as we get to the audio is where we are having the dilemma. I'd like to explain our set up so you can get a visual on how we are wired. Now were gaming on console (ps5) I (wife) would be consider the head because I'm streaming us thru OBS. Now my husband who is the 2nd party is also console we webcam thru discord just like you've illustrated. Our issue comes when we hook up our mics and test thru discord our mics work but when going live where only receiving (hearing) my voice audio (wife) and not my husbands. Could you give any advise on what we can do to help with this issue?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety +1

      Hey! Am I right in thinking the issue is solved? Just checked out your channel and your audio sounded great to me. Both of you were very clear coming through your headsets and microphones? Sorry I didn't see this in time, but glad to see your videos up and running on your CZcams channel. Great work!

    • @NxNmarriedgamers
      @NxNmarriedgamers Před 2 lety +1

      @@TechNuovo yes we solved the issue thank you so much your channel has been a blessing 🙌

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety +1

      @@NxNmarriedgamers You are so welcome! Thanks for tuning in!

  • @onohopeo4884
    @onohopeo4884 Před rokem +1

    Hi! Cheers for the video it’s helped me and my room mate out a lot! I seem to have it set up properly, I noticed in my test stream that we were delayed for quite a few seconds on twitch. Is this normal? I have stream delay turned off

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem +1

      Delayed between each other, or delayed actually on your Twitch stream? A delay on Twitch is normal of you've got delay turned off. Turn on your delay compensation so your stream has a chance of displaying correctly on Twitch.

    • @onohopeo4884
      @onohopeo4884 Před rokem +1

      @@TechNuovo to twitch itself my dude, I’m pretty new to all this. I got the stats of my stream up and aside from skipping some frames here and there my latency to viewer is 1.5-2.5 seconds is that normal?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem +1

      @@onohopeo4884 Yeah that's normal. My streams sit at like a second delay. There are ways to reduce the delay, but it's never going to be directly matched to what your software is capturing. It needs time to render and upload in real time to Twitch.

    • @onohopeo4884
      @onohopeo4884 Před rokem +1

      @@TechNuovo cheers for your help dude. Appreciate it

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem

      @@onohopeo4884 you're welcome. Cheers for checking out the content 👍

  • @ethansandjacobsyt2570
    @ethansandjacobsyt2570 Před 3 lety +1

    How can you get a background like that?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      I created my background from scratch inside of Photoshop. You could use that or s similar image editing software to make one.

  • @hyschara
    @hyschara Před 2 lety +1

    Last week i found out there's a pop out button for the video chat and it totally frees up your discord for use during stream. BUT not only can't you minimize the video call, you also HAVE to have it visible on screen at all times, so you need either 2 screen or make your game window non fullscreen and smaller to make it work 😭😭

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, that is correct. To capture a pop out window on Discord you will have to capture through OBS as a 'display' capture and not a 'window' capture. There's no real way around this unfortunately other than like you explained above, a second monitor. I'm not sure why you would need to pop out the webcam videos though and not just capture from Discord itself as a 'window' capture. If the Discord window is sitting in the background, it'll capture a webcam fine. Unless of course you run through Discord chat groups etc on your streams/recordings of course :) otherwise, a second monitor will have to be on the cards. A cheap monitor will work fine for this purpose. You won't need a top gaming monitor for this.

    • @hyschara
      @hyschara Před 2 lety

      @@TechNuovo yes unfortunately i have a habit of alt tabbing to my discord and checking the channels, which happens almost on automatic reflex xD so that pop out is a savior at least in terms of not exposing the rest of my servers and channels on stream xD
      Also, thanks for the response!

  • @GaLaNoS13
    @GaLaNoS13 Před rokem +1

    ok the 2nd screen you take it from Discrod / the 2nd camera ?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem +1

      Yep. Exactly that. Taken from a direct Discord window and cropped down just to reveal the camera.

    • @GaLaNoS13
      @GaLaNoS13 Před rokem +1

      @@TechNuovo but you can add ur camera on discord stream ?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem

      I wouldn't personally because of delay issues. I would add your personal camera as a Video Input Device in Discord straight away,.

  • @cristiangonzalez8122
    @cristiangonzalez8122 Před 3 lety +1

    and where can I find the overlay

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      The overlay is something I made myself, which is very easy to do if you have some kind of photo editing software. I use Photoshop, but there are definitely free alternatives out there if you didn't want to pay for Photoshop.

  • @leosecke1649
    @leosecke1649 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Your tutorial was super helpful but I got to ask: Why do you use Discord in white mode D:

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks. Glad we could help!
      Haha people ask me this a lot. I'm an anomaly who prefers light mode on certain apps 🤣

  • @SpelVarld
    @SpelVarld Před 2 lety

    the thing with discord is that if u live far from each other it usuly lags realy badly when u share the game or facecam

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Distance has nothing to do with it, you just need a decent connection at all locations 👍

  • @jasonalmashy4673
    @jasonalmashy4673 Před rokem +1

    How do you make the obs screen full screen while playing

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem +1

      As in the stream preview window? Or OBS as a software in general?
      If the former. Right click the preview window and there's a full screen window option. If the latter. Click the top right hand side to maximise the window.

    • @jasonalmashy4673
      @jasonalmashy4673 Před rokem +1

      Figured it out thanks

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem

      @@jasonalmashy4673 great news!

  • @cristiangonzalez8122
    @cristiangonzalez8122 Před 3 lety

    How can I edit videos?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety

      I use Adobe Premiere Pro to edit my videos, but there are other cheaper alternatives. One of us at TechNuovo used to use a program called Camtasia. And we still use it from time to time to edit our social media videos.

  • @TechTech224
    @TechTech224 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How did you get ur friend gameplay?

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 7 měsíci

      They shared their screen on Discord and then I captured it as a Window Capture on OBS.

    • @TechTech224
      @TechTech224 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TechNuovo do they need to have capture card or anything

  • @chuntguntley8771
    @chuntguntley8771 Před 2 lety +1

    why the scan lines? is that an aesthetic choice? if so, it basically looks cool. lol.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety +1

      Nope, not intentional. That was an issue with my recording settings while recording OBS through Streamlabs 🤣 glad you enjoyed though!

  • @BradSpiceFX
    @BradSpiceFX Před 3 lety +1

    The issues I have is that is someone disconnects from a call and we are using 6 people that discord moves all the video frames

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      Yep. Absolute pain that is, as the windows all shift around. We do this kind of thing on our live stream, where we know we're all going to be on for a set amount of time. Outside of that, it's very hard unless you want to keep adjusting windows constantly.

    • @BradSpiceFX
      @BradSpiceFX Před 3 lety +1

      @@TechNuovo yeah thats my issue, one freind has really bad internet and sometimes he just disconnects

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 3 lety +1

      That sucks, and also problematic because even if they rejoin the Discord chat without gameplay or camera, it'll still shuffle everyone around. Annoying.

    • @BradSpiceFX
      @BradSpiceFX Před 3 lety +1

      @@TechNuovo Yeah I know thats why I was wondering if there was a way for me to pick up their feed manually?

  • @katiehazeltine5312
    @katiehazeltine5312 Před 2 lety +1

    i need 3 people tho and discord doesnt support it

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      Three people streaming at the same time? Discord supports that.

  • @sultansulejman5921
    @sultansulejman5921 Před 2 lety

    Hi , how to do this for mobile games

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      I couldn't say I'm afraid. I don't have any experience capturing phone screens. Elgato has their Screen Link software for iOS. That can then feed into OSB. But for your friends, I'm not sure that Screen Link feeds into Discord for you to then capture their gameplay. I haven't tested this method I'm afraid.

    • @sultansulejman5921
      @sultansulejman5921 Před 2 lety

      @@TechNuovo so can you test this method if you want pls 🙂

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      @@sultansulejman5921 Unfortunately not. I'm an Android user 😉 no iPhones or iPads for me.

    • @sultansulejman5921
      @sultansulejman5921 Před 2 lety

      @@TechNuovo im also Android user , so if you can pls try this method sir 🙂

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety +2

      @@sultansulejman5921 I can't use the method above because Elgato Screen Link is on iOS. It's not on the Google Play Store.

  • @BOOMSTICK-PRODUCTIONS
    @BOOMSTICK-PRODUCTIONS Před 6 měsíci +1

    Is this still viable

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 6 měsíci

      This is still viable for sure.

  • @boomkilla12
    @boomkilla12 Před rokem +1

    My buddy lags when he is running live on Discord and playing.

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před rokem

      Try lowering the output quality to compensate. It might be a lack of computational power or even his internet speeds that's hindering their screen sharing to discord.

  • @mixios7798
    @mixios7798 Před 2 lety +2

    That's sick but the problem is if your friends don't have discord nitro, their quality is poo-poo

    • @TechNuovo
      @TechNuovo  Před 2 lety

      That's true. Nitro will help for sure though the quality still isn't that bad if they don't have it.