Jabber talks GG Allin's transformation

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • The beginning of the transformation of the shit taking jockstrap wearing GG Allin. #ggallin #punk #punkrock

Komentáře • 108

  • @deanevangelista6359
    @deanevangelista6359 Před 8 měsíci +5

    In either the late 1980s or early '90s, my band was booked to open up for GG at a show in SOHO NY, at a club called "The bank." SO we drove up from DC, parked near the club, had some great NY pizza, as one member of our band went in to talk details with the club's owner. While inside the club, there was also a guy with a 16mm movie camera who was working on a documentary about Allin. The club owner asked the filmmaker what was so special about this guy, and he spoke about his stage antics. The club owner immediately said "Show's cancelled, that isn't happening in my club!" So we went back home without playing. We had planned to leave right after our set anyway. While waiting in the van, we got to hear one of our songs played on one of those college radio stations on the far left of the dial.

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +6

      GG was in the can in 1989 till 1992 I believe. Must of been Todd Phillips doc Hated they were planning to film.

    • @ncl.a.2168
      @ncl.a.2168 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Is this Dean Evangelista of No Trend?? What band was the one you were playing at the time?
      Also, yes, GG was in prison from 1989 to early 1991, and then again from Feb '92 to March '93.

  • @derekmoody1358
    @derekmoody1358 Před 8 měsíci +9

    He took his 1st shit onstage in Creve Coeur Illinois July 31st 1985. I was the got that booked the show & bought him the Ex Lax 😂😂I knew him 1983 til he died...he stayed with me several times between 1985 & 1989. I agree with all u said. I always said, his wife left him, he processed the heartache with " I wanna rape all women" vibe. I watched as he progressively changed. On purpose. It was just he & I on the Hated In the Nation tours on greyhound busses etc. I'm a big fan of the Jabbers music & Rob was interviewed on my Church of rock radio show. Long live GG & the Jabbers!!!

    • @keithhampton9700
      @keithhampton9700 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Always good to hear from people who new him.My friends who I met in highschool, Backed him up in Dallas. And the show was recorded.(Boozing and Pranks). Me and Gene Perfect have been doing music projects over the years. I met GG in San Antonio.Gene was playing guitar. It was booked at a knarley Hispanic Club.The show lasted for about 25 minutes. GG was really a cool guy.

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +5

      So you knew the real man...not just the myth. Thanks for sharing.

    • @derekmoody1358
      @derekmoody1358 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@drasticallyreduced absolutely did. Many tales/stories I have. Cheers & happy new year hopefully

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@derekmoody1358 So you know firsthand the difference between GG onstage and the GG sitting on a bus shooting the "shit"..but also probably smelling like shit 😀

    • @derekmoody1358
      @derekmoody1358 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@drasticallyreduced 🤣🤣👍

  • @glennrcarlsonII8888
    @glennrcarlsonII8888 Před 8 měsíci +15

    I think the fact that his parents named him Jesus Christ Allin might have something to do with something

    • @theceoofcrackcocaineandamp5961
      @theceoofcrackcocaineandamp5961 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Really?

    • @glennrcarlsonII8888
      @glennrcarlsonII8888 Před 8 měsíci

      Yep

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +8

      Not his parents..his crazy dad named him that. Mom changed it when she left him and then changed Jesus Allin's name when he started school

    • @JohnDoe-pd2lh
      @JohnDoe-pd2lh Před 5 měsíci

      Might be that or that lights and speaking weren't allowed after sundown, or the fact that joy, pleasure, and children's toys were treated like a sin, or that his father dug graves in the basement and threatened to murder/suicide the entire family, or....
      Point being, GG had an unfortunately messed up childhood.

  • @brizzle2026
    @brizzle2026 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Joe Queer had mentioned that GG kind of became trapped in the sense of he had to always one up his last thing to become more and more outragous, so this make plenty of sense. I always thought he was just insane. Thanks for sharing. Big fan of the Jabbers btw.

    • @kookadams85
      @kookadams85 Před 2 měsíci

      Yep. Joe King is a BRILLIANT rockNroll icon.

  • @brucegaskins7188
    @brucegaskins7188 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I used to live in a punk rock where house called the Hate house in Salt lake City UT in 91 some one put our phone number in profane existence book your own life zene and G.G. called and talked to a roommate and asked to book a show the roommate told us about it that night and said he was afraid to book it in fear of what he would do to our where house and possibly us lol we where so mad a G.G. Allen show in S.L.C. that would have been epic!

    • @johnned4848
      @johnned4848 Před 8 měsíci

      Gawd that would've been something. I lived in SLC back then. Where do you think he would've been booked? Burts? Kilby? The Moroccan? Trying to imagine how the venue owners or the police would've reacted

  • @JohnnyCake6759
    @JohnnyCake6759 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Interesting video. There's seldom any first-hand anecdotes you can find about the man. (I've managed to find a few in my past deep dives). Thanks for making these, I like hearing the actual story behind the man and not just all the mythologized bullshit.

  • @timfordfalconxf7714
    @timfordfalconxf7714 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Awesome, Hard to think he had a job and was married woah lol.

  • @johnned4848
    @johnned4848 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Reminded of the segment in the "Hated" doc where in the middle of all the insanity GG gets a guitar and plays a plaintive; very moving version of Warren Zevon's " Carmalita." Real emotional honesty that blew me away. Himted at emotions he wouldn't or couldn't express otherwise. Was he tired of the act but couldn't figure a way out of it?

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +6

      He was heading down that country path it seemed. Carnival of Excess I really love. Great songs on there. Unfortunately, most people just remember the jockstrap and poop GG. But GG was a fame whore and knew the more outrageous his antics became..the more press he would get. You think if he wasn't shitting on stage those talk shows would have book him? It was starting to work..getting fame..then he OD'ed.

    • @rogerdodger6025
      @rogerdodger6025 Před 7 měsíci

      I knew one of his late period band members. He told me they learned the entire David Alan Coe "Underground" album and planned to perform it live just before GG died. So yes he was headed into a Country direction.

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@rogerdodger6025 oh man that would have been hilarious, especially hearing them do all the n-word songs lol

  • @mattsheezy5469
    @mattsheezy5469 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hearing that his persona was all an act makes me like him a lot more. I remember hearing Joe King from the Queers say he was funny & cool to talk to. Drugs ruin everything, I’ve been on methadone since 2006, I can’t get off. Breaks my heart to see young kids going down that same path of jail, withdrawal, & misery.

  • @librarianeric
    @librarianeric Před 8 měsíci +12

    I was working in an independent record store in San Diego in 1990 when GG Allin came to town. We used to go see a lot of free shows back then because the store sold tickets. Some of the other people at the store went, but I hadn't heard anything by GG Allin that would actually make me want to go see him. So I passed.
    The next day, one of our regulars came in with these brown stains on his shirt. He said "You see THAT?!? That's GG's shit!"
    I told him he would have to leave because I was pretty sure it was a health code violation to have him in there. I had to think up something because I didn't want this guy walking around the store forcing other people to smell GG's shit.
    Another guy from a different record store - who was REALLY big - came in and I knew he probably went to the show. So I asked him, "How was it?" He told me he had never been so scared in all his life and gave me all the details.
    GG came out buck naked except for cowboy boots and then sort of impaled himself on the leg of an overturned chair. He grabbed a woman, smashed her face in his crotch, took a dump and then began throwing it at people. At that point, pandemonium broke out with people running for cover under the pool tables. Then there was a crush at the exit. The cops were quickly called but by the time they arrived, he was gone.

    • @krat1486
      @krat1486 Před 7 měsíci

      Everyone talks about GG like he full on penetrates women in public. Thats the first time Ive heard an "assault" described like that..

    • @roterfuchs8201
      @roterfuchs8201 Před 7 měsíci

      Nice one, that was the spirit club show

    • @MadAlhazred
      @MadAlhazred Před 7 měsíci +1

      Was he not in prison in 1990?

  • @PeterChoyce
    @PeterChoyce Před 8 měsíci +5

    At 2am back in the day in Boston when the clubs would empty out they'd all go to the Pizza Pad and the rockers and disco boys would fight. I was there once when a chair came hurdling towards my head. RIght then a man came and pushed me out of the way. That man was GG. GG Allin saved my life.

    • @PeterChoyce
      @PeterChoyce Před 8 měsíci +1

      The Rat was 3 doors down, Landsdown up the block next to Fenway was clublands but across from Pizza Pad was aptly named NARCISSUS dance-o-Rama @@drasticallyreduced

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci

      @@PeterChoyce I've been in that pizza joint..after Rat shows. Think David Minehan got his head kicked in around that pizza joint when all those punk/disco boys were fighting.

  • @RigtheousPerpetrator
    @RigtheousPerpetrator Před 2 měsíci

    Mannn early GG sounds SO DAMN GOOD. I really really wish he didn’t lose focus on the music, dude sounds so fucking great on your Jabbers records, man… you guys absolutely killed it. Really wish he stayed with you guys. When he got the Murder Junkies together, he was just pure animalistic, musics basically unlistenable. His antics were just so ridiculous, you’re right, all for the camera. But still, G was the man.

  • @abanana2561
    @abanana2561 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I thought this of GG aswell, always was a performance artist to me. In the world of Rock n roll animals, Von Lmo might be the most authentic lunatic. Whoever was his friend at one point, they will warn you to avoid him and forget about him. The people who knew him who respect him are as schizophrenic as him. That side is shown in the von lmo documentary made on a small budget by someone who admired him. Just for anybody interested in over the top personalities von lmo did not belong in this universe.

    • @TraumfresserBMofficial
      @TraumfresserBMofficial Před 8 měsíci +1

      Seth Putnam was pretty crazy too.

    • @TraumfresserBMofficial
      @TraumfresserBMofficial Před 8 měsíci +1

      BTW I never heard of Von LMO until you mentioned him. I'm pretty hooked on him rn. I don't see any signs of him being a psychopath yet but his music is awesome.

    • @HonestDepression101
      @HonestDepression101 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@TraumfresserBMofficialSeth peanuts whole edgy shtick was so lame. Fuck that guy.

  • @machoninny2960
    @machoninny2960 Před 8 měsíci +4

    He did seem to have a vision. Knocked me on my ass in Bunrattys once, lol.

  • @colddarkness1798
    @colddarkness1798 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love his country rock songs and few hard core songs

  • @zackpumpkinhead8882
    @zackpumpkinhead8882 Před 8 měsíci +2

    He's the original cast member of Jackass
    And, well, the first victim.

  • @comesect
    @comesect Před 8 měsíci

    One heck of a pain tolerance, when you realize where his lyrics actually came from and the random photos of him with other musician celebrities..it says something about the him, he was no joke.

  • @robertmcbain6247
    @robertmcbain6247 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Nice video but the background music was a bit too loud too hear you. I've asked my dad (Bruce from ri, black n blue days) about gg's transformation, he said when the first met him he still answered to Kevin and was a janitor at a nursing home in Smithfield and black n blue were the only people that ever gave him any real promotion, they thought live fast die fast was gonna be his big break lol

  • @-GRAVESITE-
    @-GRAVESITE- Před 4 měsíci

    The spoken word thing always gets me still

  • @wesleypipes5673
    @wesleypipes5673 Před měsícem

    Bro, were you the guitarist in the Jabbers? If so you laid down some of the catchiest solo's I've ever heard my man!

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před měsícem +1

      Wasn't me. There were at least 6 guitar players in the Jabbers from 1978 to 1984. I played on the No Rules EP but Alan Chapple (bass player) played the 2 leads on it because I was a newbie guitar player and played no leads at that point.

  • @ChasDocumentaries
    @ChasDocumentaries Před měsícem +1

    I can see what you are saying.
    I do think he genuinely had oppositional defiant disorder and traces of narcissistic personality with anti-social traits (plus an alcoholic and somewhat drug addict) which he amplified for his persona on stage and all that.
    But if it wasn't for that stuff, he more than likely would have remained Kevin Michael Allin the social pragmatist instead of GG Allin the nihilist...
    He really must have gone downhill after his divorce (plus when Merle stuck a tab of acid in his Dunkin' Donuts munchkins)

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před měsícem +1

      I heard the acid was put in McDonald's french fries. lol. This wasn't a Syd Barrett moment for Kevin that altered his life. lol

    • @ChasDocumentaries
      @ChasDocumentaries Před měsícem

      @@drasticallyreduced lol, absolutely. He was forever changed negatively I believe and yes if you watch the documentary "Hated" his high school buddies said Dunkin Munchkins but I guess it doesn't matter, same point made.
      It is still really cool you got to meet him.
      I'm only 28 from Philly so I was born in '95 so I never heard of "GG" until I knew about punk rock more and more.
      I love the vids, man. Really cool stories that ya met Kevin.
      A-salute 🇮🇹🇺🇸

  • @wangdangle73
    @wangdangle73 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Very talented in early days imo

    • @dmize2839
      @dmize2839 Před 8 měsíci

      He was very talented, period.

  • @markomarovic86
    @markomarovic86 Před 7 měsíci +2

    so don't get married, got it, thanks man.

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 7 měsíci +6

      Doesn't matter who you are..men's biggest issues always involve women. Even GG Allin. Went to prison for 3 years because of a woman .

  • @PsyVen
    @PsyVen Před 8 měsíci +1

    Interesting perspective. If for nothing else, he'll be remembered for taking onstage outrage as far as it can possibly go, short of killing yourself or others (and he hinted he was open to that possibility as well).

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +8

      Doubt GG would have ever taking his life willingly. Made for some good press though. He was a narcissist according to his prison psych report.

    • @guillaumebisson1505
      @guillaumebisson1505 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I think hanatarash might have gone a bit further, more of in the hurting yourself and others direction tho.

    • @PsyVen
      @PsyVen Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@drasticallyreduced Yeah, why the guy is anything more than an object of morbid curiosity thirty years after his death is a mystery. (Then again, I never got the cults of admiration around GG's fellow junkie-losers Sid Vicious or Darby Crash, either.)

    • @dmize2839
      @dmize2839 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@PsyVenthis whole post just screams "I have shit for taste'

  • @DrMJC13
    @DrMJC13 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Good stuff here. Thanks for the post

  • @jenniferanne4143
    @jenniferanne4143 Před 5 měsíci

    In Detroit back in the early 90's, bands would purposely put GG Allin (or sometimes the Exploited) on flyers to draw bigger crowds, and then say they cancelled after the opening bands (only actual bands there) played. The crowds would be buzzing, people would be looking for them and waiting lol

  • @Ishbu101
    @Ishbu101 Před 7 měsíci

    Interesting...this guy always fascinated me.

  • @DBKMX
    @DBKMX Před 8 měsíci +1

    Damn this is awesome

  • @JohnDoe-pd2lh
    @JohnDoe-pd2lh Před 5 měsíci

    Yep, huge difference between "GG" and Kevin. Unfortunately he kinda became trapped in the persona he created and felt more and more pressure to live up to the legend of his own making.

  • @doctorfeinstone6524
    @doctorfeinstone6524 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I had a feeling it was an act. There is footage of him on CZcams after a show and he's a totally different person. He's just chilling and signing autographs and thanking his fans for being there

    • @dragonaut4208
      @dragonaut4208 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Met someone who use to work with him at a factory/warehouse and said he was a great coworker and fun to be around.

  • @David_Downs
    @David_Downs Před 8 měsíci

    Why the music in the background? Distracts from the video,.

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci

      My hearing must be going. I thought it was low enough in the mix. 😀

  • @dmize2839
    @dmize2839 Před 8 měsíci

    I bought the VHS with the live fast die fast. This was way before the internet obviously. I was watching my friend and we saw that video and he said this must be the reason he wanted to kill himself he saw this video. Did you play at the COS show when the jabbers did a reunion in Vegas? I was there playing guitar in rancid vat

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +1

      No I left the Jabbers in 1984. I heard about that show..think I was living overseas by then. Regardless, I wouldn't want to be in the Jabbers without GG fronting it.

  • @billyrobinson6803
    @billyrobinson6803 Před 7 měsíci

    Good comments 👍

  • @freebee8221
    @freebee8221 Před 8 měsíci

    arent you in the live fast die fast video too? Im confused about who you were in the jabbers and what time?

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +2

      This was after the Jabbers. Only Al Chapple the bass player in this video was a Jabber. The band was called Flying 69. Short lived

    • @freebee8221
      @freebee8221 Před 8 měsíci

      @@drasticallyreduced is there any footage of you with GG?
      (On youtube i mean)

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@freebee8221 Here is the lip synch video we did in 1982. I'm the skinny guy "playing" guitar on the far right. czcams.com/video/4vJEv-kT6zs/video.html&pp=ygUXR0cgYWxsaW4gbGlwc3luY2ggdmlkZW8%3D

  • @kookadams85
    @kookadams85 Před 2 měsíci

    *I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THIS COMMENT* - I had been sayin for YEARS exactly what's said here cuz it's so blatantly obvious - that his wife leavin him F'd him up & that the dude wasn't a lunatic, that it was all an act for attention! The most important thing any1 should know about the late GG was #1 he was a great drummer #2 knew music & what it took to make both good & bad ; good bein his apex the No Rules 7", the 1st scumfucs 7" that followed, the 12" split w/ artless, the expose yourself 7".. the bad bein the Watch me kill 7" & suicide sessions tape! 💯 💯 💯

  • @Daniel_Delayne
    @Daniel_Delayne Před 8 měsíci

    So the divorce was the watershed moment eh 🤔

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Well actually the separation that lead to the divorce a couple years later.

  • @heathertiller3644
    @heathertiller3644 Před 7 měsíci

    Did this bro shit on stage, too? Top notch entertainment I tell ya! Only the best hafta resort to that.

  • @blotsinn
    @blotsinn Před 2 měsíci

    the Jabbers made GG Allin, that’s really the only good stuff he was involved with. Lyrically was rubbish but great comedic value

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 2 měsíci +1

      disagree..GG wrote some great songs after the Jabbers. Hanging Out with Jim being one.

    • @blotsinn
      @blotsinn Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@drasticallyreduced not heard this one-I’ll havta listen. I like your drasticallyreduced stuff btw! It’s hard to find anyone who knows/or desires to play 77’80s punk anymore. I’ve always preferred the American bands from that time

  • @mr.sophistication3232
    @mr.sophistication3232 Před 6 měsíci

    Why did gg wear a jockstrap? Was it so he would dump a drop a deuce on stage easy? Asking for a friend who’s a gg Allin impersonator.

    • @drasticallyreduced
      @drasticallyreduced  Před 6 měsíci +1

      That was after my time. But assume he wore it to not get arrested for indecent exposure. Even though it usually got removed during the show 😀

    • @mr.sophistication3232
      @mr.sophistication3232 Před 6 měsíci

      @@drasticallyreduced Thank you for the reply DR 😁 very funny & makes sense lol

  • @endlessgrind6951
    @endlessgrind6951 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I thought it was a bad hit of lsd.

  • @thomasfields2082
    @thomasfields2082 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Gg was obscenely over rated. Ok songs, silly stage antics. Not impressed.

    • @theceoofcrackcocaineandamp5961
      @theceoofcrackcocaineandamp5961 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Okay, Thomas. Let me know when you release an album.

    • @dmize2839
      @dmize2839 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Post a link to some of your music then show us how it's done smart guy. You don't know what you are talking about. Never do, never did and never will have done.

    • @TraumfresserBMofficial
      @TraumfresserBMofficial Před 8 měsíci

      Opinions and assholes.

    • @fletchkeilman2205
      @fletchkeilman2205 Před 8 měsíci

      your face is obscenely overrated

    • @TommyWashow
      @TommyWashow Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@dmize2839 spoken like a non musician who enjoys the music of gg Allin lol he's cool for shitting in his hand and bleeding that's it there's nothing more to it

  • @toasty138
    @toasty138 Před 7 měsíci +1

    He was a nice funny goofy guy.. I met him in 88 on greyhound.. hell even tge bus drivers liked him and I literally spent 2 years telling all the bus drivers he was dead.. he always went by Kevin too with me anyways.. and his musical friends used him to try to advance their career.. but gg you were in his band on his thing and if you didny like it.. they can go the way of chickenshit john.. he always said they were just using him to advance their own career.. Kevin and merle are both really nice guys...