This camera takes "REAL" photos! (Leica M11-P)
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- čas přidán 25. 10. 2023
- The Leica M11-P doesn't change a lot from the original M11, but it does add a new feature called Content Credentials that’s meant to bring transparency back to media. How does this work, and is it actually useful? David breaks it down.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro and Leica M11 recap
00:36: AI and the internet
01:56: Content Credentials
03:15: How it works
06:25: Potential Problems
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Man, David is great at camera reviews. Having someone who is passionate about the subject but otherwise spends his days on other tech subjects comes through in his dialogue...he clearly loves making these. Also, this was the best explanation of Content Credentials that I have found yet. Great stuff
Agreed!
100% agree, he also has a great voice and tempo in his speech. They should start a separate camera review channel!
No doubt. Markus…it’s your shop. You already know that putting the spotlight on talent is a critical element necessary in achieving excellence. This kid David might very well be your best resource and extension of your capacity. 🙌
Not only is David really passionate about this stuff, but he explains it REALLY WELL. Great qualities for someone making videos like this. Well done, man.
I have to say that your camera videos are some of my favorites on youtube. They never feel too long and I like the balance of not to much spec reading.
eh. this one was kinda boring and long. I prefer the camera reviews where he talks about how the photos are being taken, the physics etc, then shows some sick shots. this....was a wiki article being read on camera.
can we just take a moment to appreciate how good David's camera reviews are?
It deserves its own dedicated channel. For real.
Can we just acknowledge how old and tired the "can we just take a moment..." comments have become?
is this even a camera review?
@@stevenqirkle this
This is not a camera review at all
I've been subed and watching for about a year now and David's camera videos are literally THE BEST THING that is uploaded from the MKBHD Studio. I would love to see a series where he explains more about cameras. Everything from the basics of photography (exposure triangle) to the technical side like sensors sizes, color sciences and lens options. Also massive credit to the graphics, very well done as always both in quality and story telling.
I absolutely love them too, as good as it gets. except the dust ad fingerprints on the camera in the opening shot just kinda hurt my soul, also the lens was focused on the shotgun mic the whole video... the actual contents of the video, the explanation, writing delivery was perfect. But the studio has built quite the name for itself in production value, and this seems sloppy.
One I really appreciate David bringing light to this and also just great video overall
Always love seeing your takes on these, David.
This kinda reminds me of how old developed photos would have a tamp on the back of them with the brand or data of the film
I love the editing and David's presentation! You guys are killing it along with the Waveform podcast.
Two good AI-related videos from David this week, both really interesting and thought provoking. Thank you!
Killer description. I think this is definitely the future for professional photographers especially those in the documentary sector!
I love this new videos with a touch of MKBH and the personality of each guy of The Studio, love it 😎👍
I'd love to see David's take on a beginner getting into photography or film photography specifically, he has really captivated my attention with this stuff but I wouldn't be sure where to begin!
Thank you so much David! Appreciate the simple and clear explanation and use case for this. I look forward to your contributions to this channel. I'm hoping Content Credentials does gain traction and is implemented more widely.
Great video, David. This is somehow the first time I've come across this channel, but I'll definitely be coming back after this.
Between this video and the waveform episode, love all of fhis David content!
I genuinely have just a passing interest in photography and this corner of tech - but the storytelling and this videos production is so compelling and satisfying I’ve stayed and learnt something - thanks
The David's lessons are always the best. Aside that and how beautiful and divulgative these videos are, we should hope that some method like this takes place, otherwise internet will become a very very dark jungle.
Great Video, David! Thanks for spreading the knowledge on this area of photography📚
love davids studio vids so much 👌
it'd be rlly cool if you like a quick photo walk or smth one time
David is all hits, no misses around here. Loving his solo videos
David Really love your videos. I have had this exact experience where my work was used although I’m not famous it still makes me feel some type of way. Thanks so much for sharing.Always enjoy your work and for keeping it real.✌️💯
Great video, David! Just got mine this week. Sooo good with low light and shadow recovery. I haven't really dealt with the "credentials" thing yet, but it's nice to have.
I’ve been documentary wedding photographer for more than 3yrs now and I was completely unaware of this topic. Thanks for this video.
David deserves an Oscar for the clarity and simplicity explanation 🎉🎉
Hey David, thanks for sharing this info, I was not aware of this particular technology and now I am thanks to you =)
A strong david week, thx for the informations. In 2 years or so i think this will be a big topic. Glad to see how it starts!
David is becoming one of my favorite youtubers... excellent video.
Great video David! Lets hope this becomes a standard in every camera going forward. Is there any news about how phone cameras would handle this?
Best camera reviewer on the planet. Please do reviews for more cameras and lenses across all brands!
This was a very different video than i thought, im glad i clocked? Great job Team!
Great explanation, people need to understand that this is very important. The screenshot thing could be avoided with digital watermarks. Hope this will get lots of attention in the future. Thanks for doing this video!
Digital watermarks can be edited out with generative fill. A watermark would need to be overlayed over a large portion of the photo or video. But that would be annoying and destroy a lot pieces.
“What even is a photo?” has overtaken my brain thanks to you, haha! So glad to see it getting it’s time in the spotlight
David drives me crazy on WVFRM but I love his camera videos. Really good.
David is amazing. Hands down my favorite host
Love the video, David! I hope you make an actual review for that camera in the near future!
We have full reviews for the regular M11 and M11 Monochrome! This camera is almost exactly the same as the regular M11 so I didn’t really see a reason to do the same review again.
@@TheStudio that’s fair! Thanks for the reply!
Leica as always (micro) refining it's M camera range, and David as always goes beyond numbers and specs and deep dive on something new to learn in photography. Then there's me as always waiting for more content like this on The Studio channel 👍UP! as always.
Great presentation well done David.
David needs to make more camera videos. I used to have no interest in them, but now I love cameras
This makes me genuine happy. As a photographer who wants to do this as an art form I hated Ai and the upcoming tools that are in this world right now. But Ai works so well when working for clients. This tool just gives me a real split in my work and others will know what is modified and what not. So the real art can and will stay art, but my client work can be mixed with Ai *sigh of relief*
It would be cool if this could be enabled on smart phone photos as well.
Yeah i think we're not far from it. You already have cryptographic chips on every smartphone since most of your data on phone is encrypted by default so a software update could bring it quite easily. And in my opinion that would be the point of critical mass that he has talked about.
Truepic is an example of an SDK that adds CAI capabilities to any "photo" app on Android and IOS. So if it caught on even apps like Filmic Pro could easily link against them to gain said capabilities. So, even if the phone manufacturers didn't do it in the stock app there are ways for third parties to integrate it if they wanted. The keys could be stored in the enclaves that are already provided by many manufacturers via SDKs.
I was so super exited for a hot minute when I first thought that someone made a camera that mimics the field of view and depth of eyes, to take s picture so it would be as close as possible to 1:1 comparisons
Love these videos ❤
Born to educate. Well done David.
Love David’s videos!
Hey, what scanner do you use for scanning film photos.
Thought this was going to be a rehash of known info. Surprised with new info. Great video.
What an amazing camera. Top class.
I really loved this video, The explanation was boom💥💯💯. Although I wonder how a camera could be that expensive🙀🙀
I think this is great tech! Thanks for sharing
Great informative video. I'm not a photographer but this idea will hopefully take off.
A related point: Google has made the reverse image search so convoluted at this point to the point where it is extremely difficult to track the oriign of an image.
Dave is a champ. Great video!
Very cool video. And informative. Dope.
Phenomenal video!!
Pretty neat idea! I hope it sticks around...
good informative video...well done👏👏👏
Love this! It's like beefed up EXIF data!
May I ask you? Can you connect Fotos app to the Leica M11P while it is turned off? So Fotos app will wake up camera and establish the connection. I cannot do with my Leica M11.
I am curious on how apps like Instagram will use this feature (if they use it) and how will they enable the user to see that information when they see a photo uploaded by a photographer they follow. I am a photographer that uploads photos on a daily basis and features like alt text are buried in the advanced features when posting. Would love it to be more of an upfront feature.
Is it possible to update caneras released in recent years retrospectively to add the Content Credential hardware?
I love the background of this video
I don’t really care about the camera but knew David would deliver a worthwhile video.
Want such more videos from David.
really, really good video! :)
I really like the knowledge of David about Cameras and explaining things in an easy way.
Is there any possibility to get a Video from the Studio or Main Channel about how a Super Slow Motion Camera works? Not the usual "filming in 120fps", more like "How does the tech work to enable a camera to capture 1000, 5000 or even 10000 frames per second"
There is basically no Video or Blog on this I can find 😅
What’s the camera setup at 4:32? Film camera mounted with a smartphone?
I love david videos
More Leica videos please, David!
Cool, good to know. Thank you ☺️
well done video dude
I love David videos
More David camera reviews PLEASE
Question. How do you correctly use the new iPhone camera set with the log function to make it look this good. Black magic app and then? Teach us
I expected a camera review, what I got is a hundred times better.
I've been following David 's content for a while, and he just keeps getting better
Everything already has different kind of metadata and much of is writable which can be used for privacy reasons. What prevents a company from forcing geolocation to be saved and then it isn't changeable and anyone can see it?
Content credential is underrated. Think about the importance on having content credential on the Nikon z9s that will go on the moon with Artemis mission.
Is this something that could be on the software? Like on update you could let other cameras to have it?
Nice review
How would the metadata be shown on social media. Because right now you can’t see meta data from images on social media. Would that mean that all the platforms need to change the way of storing images?
You wouldn’t need to change the way they’re stored as the manifest is embedded into the image file. Because it’s open sourced Instagram and other social media would just need to add a few lines of code to show the badge.
@@DavidImel Yesss it david!
David photography channel when?
Great review, I want this camera bad
this is awesome
Maybe I missed it, but is this Content Credentials feature for JPG files only? What happens if a person shoots RAW?
Another David video life is good. .
100th video and it's by David on photography🤩
Excellent review! I wonder if AI could even fool this solution, go back to the original and resign metadata to itself from, say, a journalist. Also, this is surely only software based? Or does it require some kind of a chip? If it is only software, can’t manufacturers just incorporate this into the firmware of cameras already in use today? In that sense it could become an industry-standard quicker than by releasing new camera models. Which as a side-effect would cancel content authenticity as an advantage or selling point of the M11-P. For now I applaud Leica and the open-source solution for the initiative.
This helps. Great explainer. I would say it is absolutely feasible for every news gathering organization to provide cameras enabled for this or only accept images from cameras that have it. That would cost little, force all the camera, and more importantly cell phone makes, to add this really fast.
A way around the screenshot thing is to have manufacturers sign screenshots as screenshots when they happen. Same with manufacturers of scanners, etc. That way no image starts off with a blank manifest. Otherwise this whole initiative starts off with a glaring and easily exploitable gap in it.
EXACTLY!
that sounds like a nightmare. I already can't screenshot netflix to share memes with my friends.
@@GatorAidMedical no ones saying you can't do something
@@YOitsBAyet. Having in built monitoring of what you are screenshotting being processed on an off-device cloud network would be both expensive as well as an overreach of privacy / ripe for exploit
@@GatorAidMedical
1. why would it need to be processed off device?
2. do you know how much processing it takes to create a manifest.json file? 🤣
3. Metadata is metadata, it isn't personally identifiable by nature. I'm confused as to how this could be a privacy concern.
This is a win-win for manufacturers with minimal effort and 99.99% of users would never even notice a difference.
Excellent video. I learned a lot. The title was a bit misleading, though. I thought it would be a camera review, which, to tell you the truth, I am only mildly interested in, as I am never going to buy a camera like that. The actual content was much more worthwhile to me.
the only way to trust a piece of content is to trust the source (or that someone else you trust signed it)
it has been like this for a long time and it will always be like this
Content credentials is a convenient way to show what exactly was done to the video (only if you trust the source already)
im a simple man i see david video i like it, then watch.
What we need (also) is an app where people could share their photos for people to like, see and admire.
Great explanation and the idea behind it makes total sense. The problem is that this might backfire if it becomes a widely known standard. The more successful it becomes the more likely it is for bad actors to take aim. And when it gets cracked (and it will) it will be even harder to identify misinformation. I think the only possible way to deal with fakes and AI generated stuff is through education. People need to be aware of it.
No need to crack it. You can literally just sign an AI generated photo. Everything from there on is tracked, but nothing that happened to the image before. Unless cameras automatically sign images at time of creation, this whole system is just based on good will.
Well they do. ... Have you watched the video? lol @@omgawesomeomg
But nothong is stopping you from photographing a projection or a print of something that was manipulated. And like I said it will get cracked.
Interesting subject. For news and media photos, they would still be edited before upload, which would still make it hard to know how authentic, or what editing was done to that image. Unless, they have/use an editing software that only allows for basic photo editing.
What if someone uses an older camera and uploads the jpgs straight out of the camera. Will there be credentials for that? Feels like this idea has so many loopholes.
How do you scan film?
Does David have a personal ch? If not he should. Well done sir.
Love it. No more fake news
David, please start a channel, we wanna learn about the camera stuff this way always...