Why Does My Mix Sound Bad in the Car?

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  • @winviki123
    @winviki123 Pƙed 6 lety +1419

    better start mixing your tracks inside the car

  • @DrJoshGuitar
    @DrJoshGuitar Pƙed 6 lety +361

    I came up with a simple solution. I brought my car into my home studio :)

  • @MiniPaquin
    @MiniPaquin Pƙed 4 lety +309

    Joe:"Has this ever happened to you?"
    *jams to country music*
    Me: no.

  • @gavinhowe9897
    @gavinhowe9897 Pƙed 6 lety +307

    I liked the car mix better

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  Pƙed 6 lety +22

      😊

    • @slurpii4142
      @slurpii4142 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Wait that's offensive

    • @mignotmaxime2409
      @mignotmaxime2409 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@slurpii4142 you have to admit that the original studio mix is not everyone's style and the sound of the second one is kinda cool with somewhat clean and musical artifacts here. Personally I actually find both mixes sounding great!

    • @ScopeMR1
      @ScopeMR1 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Wow thank you so much joe ..I just did an ep that I mixed and master and I was very critical of myself even though I kept on getting all the good feedback from other people that they sounded very good

  • @bigmike8082
    @bigmike8082 Pƙed 5 lety +197

    I dont even have to do the "car-test" cause my mix already sounds shit on my phoneđŸ˜„đŸ˜„

    • @kenjenkillasounds
      @kenjenkillasounds Pƙed 4 lety +2

      BigMike 1017 😂😂😂😂

    • @Gesreg
      @Gesreg Pƙed 4 lety +7

      maybe it's your mix

    • @hallownaught4022
      @hallownaught4022 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      bro I feel you

    • @3rdofdaangelzent.83
      @3rdofdaangelzent.83 Pƙed 4 lety

      😭😂

    • @BillGraper
      @BillGraper Pƙed 4 lety +8

      Phones don't have bass, unless you're using headphones or hooking it up to speakers. I can't stand listening to my songs just from the phone speaker (singular, because there's also no stereo separation on the phone speaker).

  • @ChristianIce
    @ChristianIce Pƙed 6 lety +40

    Spot on the "reason number 2"
    I use my NS10s for *everything,* mixing, listening to music, videogame, movies.
    The way your brain calibrates on a set of speakers is impressive.

  • @ShallieDragon
    @ShallieDragon Pƙed 6 lety +398

    Secret point #6: it could also be your room. If you're mixing in a crappy-sounding room, with no acoustic treatment, this is going to mess with your ability to hear things correctly.

    • @glueh
      @glueh Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Shal Music/FX ty

    • @MrSecretMansion
      @MrSecretMansion Pƙed 6 lety +23

      Or just wear headphones

    • @StringsForMetal
      @StringsForMetal Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Thank you so much for saying that and not just me thinking it. acoustic treatment and consideration of audio reflection is also an issue. remember that a car dont have near as many straight corner surfaces to reflect from. and audio reflects totally different in a car. not to mention all the padding of a cars inside that absorbs some of these reflections

    • @LibriumMusic
      @LibriumMusic Pƙed 6 lety +5

      Xpry Headphones will always give a different representation of the sound than speakers, even your 300 dollar sennheisers

    • @LukasVokrinek
      @LukasVokrinek Pƙed 6 lety +3

      For me, they're invaluable nonetheless

  • @Syklonus
    @Syklonus Pƙed 4 lety +47

    I always listen to my mixes as if it were someone else listening to it for the first time. It's a totally different frame of mind, and it's much more about soaking up broad strokes and vibe rather than ultra micro managing tiny details. It's almost like putting mental wool over your ears and stopping yourself zooming in too far.

    • @GabrielXDrums
      @GabrielXDrums Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Good example is the old Bring Me the Horizon Suicide season stuff, the mix is flat out demo-ish yet sold good and was a good record overall, I prefer the raw sound anyways, things have become too processed which is amazing if you can get it but the vibe is of upmost importance.

    • @savage7ecneek437
      @savage7ecneek437 Pƙed rokem

      Yeah.....do the home speakers, headphones, and car test all the time.......

  • @MkProductionQ8
    @MkProductionQ8 Pƙed 6 lety +342

    i remember the time when i was bad at mixing !! after 8 years i got way better and i was just a producer but now every song i produce includes Mixing+Mastering and more paycheck !!

    • @natedavid3873
      @natedavid3873 Pƙed 6 lety +19

      Eight fucking years???!?!???

    • @MkProductionQ8
      @MkProductionQ8 Pƙed 6 lety +21

      mmm yeah ? i was just a music producer making music and now i produce and mix my work !! what is the problem ?

    • @Creamy.v1
      @Creamy.v1 Pƙed 6 lety +27

      Nice vro... Don't listen to that bitch ass hater, fuck him, we all take different time through out the process, bless up

    • @natedavid3873
      @natedavid3873 Pƙed 6 lety +51

      Mark Angel I wasn’t hating. Just mind blown that (as a beginner mixer) that’s how long it takes to get really good. You took my shit out of context.

    • @Creamy.v1
      @Creamy.v1 Pƙed 6 lety +11

      Nate David aight cool... Keep working hard and probably you'll take half the time the other guy took... Sorry for the misunderstanding, bless up👊

  • @Sellarmusic
    @Sellarmusic Pƙed 6 lety +8

    I loved the opening segment. I call it the "walk of shame" back to the house when the mix sounds horrible in the car. You played the part perfectly. I've made it many times at 1:00 in the morning but I don't have that experience as much these days. I've learned my speakers in both my studio and car by using reference tracks for comparisons. Your recommendation to listen to everything on your studio speakers is spot on and it really works.

  • @ThomasMurray7
    @ThomasMurray7 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    I had to figure this stuff out on my own throughout the course of... 2 or 3 thousand mixes or so... Annnnnd
    I just wanted to say it makes me so happy to hear other people saying what I've been thinking for years.
    It's so much easier to find bad advice on this stuff than it is to find good advice, everyone wants to be an expert.
    That said, you're doing an awesome service to the beginner and intermediate crowd and seriously moving them in the right direction.
    Please keep it up.

  • @KevinCastillo
    @KevinCastillo Pƙed 6 lety +122

    I can't believe you made this video! đŸ˜±, I was afraid I was the only one experiencing this... Thank you!

  • @RecordingStudio9
    @RecordingStudio9 Pƙed 6 lety +100

    Even though been doing for many years, I still listen a new mix in my car, but, first I listen to the radio few songs, then swamp to the CD Player (Yes I have an old Toyota), and compare the tone. Radio always sounds louder in my car for some reason (Doh!), so I have to turn my CD up to match.
    So why in the car? Well, once my client leaves my studio with a master CD in their hand, first thing they will do is listen on their way home :)

  • @drhicks76
    @drhicks76 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    I had literal tears running down my face watching the intro to this because I have been living this problem the last week! I think it's just that Inexperience Factor as I'm just learning how to mix properly and that I added a bit too much high end EQ on the masters and killed the drums so now I'm going to try dialing that back and mixing my drums like a saw in your video for that (using a separate Drum Bus). Thanks for this! Gonna watch more of your videos as I go!

  • @shamasnake
    @shamasnake Pƙed rokem +4

    It's so true - my first produced album seems full of mistakes and not enough understanding about how to mix properly (I'm not judging myself as I recorded and mixed it all alone while studying sound engineering course ) but I noticed how after 3-4 years somehow my knowledge of things increased immensely and even tho I know it's not the end , but production feels miles apart from my first one!
    Great advice man

  • @condormusik
    @condormusik Pƙed 6 lety +3

    I was smiling from ear to ear within five seconds. This happens with every one of my songs! I don't get too bummed because I know I'm not that good, but when I don't know how to diagnose and fix the problem, I end up like Sad Joe. All of your points were spot-on for me.

  • @AntonioRockGP
    @AntonioRockGP Pƙed 6 lety +25

    The best trick is to listen a lot of music in the studio.
    I'm fortunate because my studio is also my class room where I teach guitar for about 8h a day, every day!
    So I listen to tones of stuff on my monitors and my mixing room every day. I know how music sounds there.

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze Pƙed 6 lety +41

    Just bring your car into the studio... and mix with your car there... problem solved

  • @rodneyc3202
    @rodneyc3202 Pƙed rokem +2

    This is very true actually when u start producing crazy genres especially

  • @anthonyquintanilla4207
    @anthonyquintanilla4207 Pƙed 2 lety

    Loved this video!!! When you walk back to the studio with your head down. We have all been there!!!

  • @grumpent
    @grumpent Pƙed 6 lety +4

    I was in tears @1:01 đŸ€ŁđŸ˜­đŸ˜‚đŸ’€ bruh you funny af man good shit

  • @freez092also
    @freez092also Pƙed 6 lety +11

    For point #2, "HDTracks" is an amazing resource for referencing high quality professional and modern music/masters

  • @kuunami
    @kuunami Pƙed 6 lety

    I love the way you put this video together. I have no choice but to subscribe.

  • @patrickgoethals3235
    @patrickgoethals3235 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    After 40 years on stage, and hours in recording studio. I now have my first song with my own home studio. It sounds fantastic because nobody dares to say it sucks. HAHA!
    But I'm having a great time. The world of DAW's- pluging's etc. Watched hundreds of videos to get inspired and how to work with your DAW. Learned a lot from your videos how to work in studio one. THX 4 the VID's.
    PS: some have no subtitles (I am Dutch)

  • @agmsmith4079
    @agmsmith4079 Pƙed 6 lety +81

    Good video, touched on most of the points needed but one really big issue was left out...
    #6 - you can only mix what you hear.
    If the actual acoustic “sound” of your home studio is terrible then your mixes will not translate to other environments.
    I am a professional sound engineer and have been for over 20 years. I’ve recorded and mixed over 500 albums professional, have Grammy nominations, etc... I notice the acoustics of the room I am mixing in effects the final outcome of the mix moreso than anything else... I can mix on crappy speakers, good speakers, crappy recordings, good recordings, etc. and I can always get a good mix... but when the acoustics of the room are terrible, no matter what I do, my mixes sound terrible and I can’t hear what I need to do to fix it because it sounds great IN THE ROOM I am mixing in.
    A lot of ppl don’t realize that untreated rooms impart a lot of comb filtering into the acoustic sound of the room.... what that means is mixing in an untreated room is like mixing with a 31 band EQ on your speakers and a toddler just decided to move all the sliders for all the bands up and down to make a cool looking shape! Lol.
    As an example of what I’m talking about put a 31 band EQ across your mix bus and then just mess it up with some bands up 12dB some bands Down 12dB and some at different points in between... now mix a song with that on the mix bus... when you are done and you have the song sounding great, bypass the 31 band EQ and now see what happens to your mix... sounds like complete crap now doesn’t it? That is the same thing that happens when you move your mix from room to room and speaker system to speaker system.
    The solution is to get good acoustic treatment and set it up properly. And whatever you do, do not use foam for anything... get the good stuff, Owens Corning 703 fiberglass or roxul mineral wool. The thicker the better.
    If you put those panels in the first reflection points and then put some bass traps In the corners it will transform the sound of your home studio space and you will start hearing little subtleties in your tracks you never noticed before.

    • @bhargavchavda1478
      @bhargavchavda1478 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Agm Smith thx sir

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  Pƙed 6 lety +10

      Absolutely. Treatment is super helpful. But I've had fairly minimal treatment in my studio for years and have been able to get good mixes that translate. As long as the room isn't horrendous, and as long as there's not a ridiculous amount of reflections, it's possible to get a good mix. Plus you can always mix on headphones and take the room out of the equation entirely.

    • @agmsmith4079
      @agmsmith4079 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Joe Gilder Music ....nnnnnnooooooooo...... (in slow motion action sequence style)....
      Mixing in headphones is always a terrible idea because of the way the ear perceives loudness.
      Two speakers that are different distances to the listener, even when matched to identical SPL, will sound like different volume levels to the listener. The ear is more sensitive to changes in SPL the closer the sound source is. SMPTE did extensive testing on this in the 70s and 80s.
      What that translates to mixing is this... a 2dB change in volume when the speakers are 1 in away from your ears will be a significant, noticeable difference. That same 2dB change on the same instrument, will not be significant if the speaker is 4 or 5 ft away.
      So when mixing and you setup balance and start doing automation the mix done on headphones will sound very flat/dull/boring compared to the mix done on speakers because of how much more you do when listening on speakers than on headphones. A volume ride up if 5dB that sounds great on speakers will usually feel too loud on headphones.
      Anyway... I would be very surprised if your mixes don’t improve even more from where they are now if you add acoustic treatment behind the speakers (in the book shelf) and hang some overhead if you haven’t already.

    • @agmsmith4079
      @agmsmith4079 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      ... way the EAR perceives sound.... not war... stupid iPhone auto correct.

    • @agmsmith4079
      @agmsmith4079 Pƙed 6 lety

      That is also why the minimum spec for speaker distance to the mix position in the Dolby dub stage specs is 11’ 6”. As the speakers get closer and closer your perception of loudness is skewed.
      The Dolby spec is to calibrate the speakers to -18dBFS = +4dBu = 85 dB SPL (c weighted) using pink noise... but only if the speakers are at least 11’ 6” away. Under that you are supposed to use 82dB SPL, 79 dB SPL, and/or 76 dB SPL depending on how close the speakers are because your ears become more sensitive to changes in SPL as the sources get closer.

  • @Inflake
    @Inflake Pƙed 5 lety +14

    Thanks! I'm buying a car now!

  • @synthead
    @synthead Pƙed 6 lety

    These are awesome points, especially about everything sounding bad in the car! Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @charliestrickland2417
    @charliestrickland2417 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    Great info and presentation. Love the walk back from the car
 eerily familiar.

  • @pprovost
    @pprovost Pƙed 6 lety +127

    Who else here loves sad Joe? The hanging head walk is priceless!

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  Pƙed 6 lety +18

      Totally stole that idea from Arrested Development

    • @pprovost
      @pprovost Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Even so, perfectly executed...

    • @AlKey3
      @AlKey3 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Yup, I dig the Vince Guaraldi...

    • @CatoNoise
      @CatoNoise Pƙed 6 lety +2

      yes! I really felt for him. haha

    • @robertsimpson5801
      @robertsimpson5801 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Oh, yeah, especially to the the peanuts Christmas Song.

  • @markpeters2317
    @markpeters2317 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    pro tip: bring your INTERFACE into your car, and use one of the monitor headphone outputs for audio connecting to the cars aux port. when things dont playback similarly across different speaker types, its usually 50% improper mix environment at your studio, and 50% of the difference comes from a significant difference in playback engine/playback quality. Until you have a properly treated mix environment, just use headphones when EQ'ing. yeah, its kinda a pain in the ass to keep switching back and forth, but until the monitor speakers are in a treated room, your mixes will have huge inconsistencies across different formats + playback devices

    • @michaelmclaughlin6376
      @michaelmclaughlin6376 Pƙed rokem

      I just said that above, and it's so true. There are even a lot of pros with good mix environments who still do this. One thing I also just learned: check the mix in mono. I used to do that sometimes, but man what a reveal for this last mix. The low end was WAY over the top, and in stereo, you just couldn't tell.

  • @gregtapevideo1464
    @gregtapevideo1464 Pƙed 3 lety

    I just checked my first final mix😆 in my car. Not bad!!! Just need to tweak a few things! Thanks for your help in these videos Joe!!

  • @greatbigz
    @greatbigz Pƙed 6 lety

    Thanks Joe, great advice in this video. I'm in the middle of mixing my EP right now. This is the first time I am mixing on my own and I love the advice. Using references is so important. I haven't been doing that and I need to. Thank you for the reminder.

  • @merchantaudioproductions
    @merchantaudioproductions Pƙed 6 lety +18

    You are too funny. This is so true. Now I critique every radio song in my car. Singing the hoots of the snare drum on a STP song. Or will someone please put a deesser on Alanis Morissette's vocal!!

  • @robfulco4739
    @robfulco4739 Pƙed 6 lety +84

    I'm thinking what happens is a lot of people starting out will get decent studio monitors, and not knowing how to use them yet, or how things are suppose to sound on them, they mix their song until it sounds like music does in their car. Lots of low end, maybe scooped in the mids area, etc. Then when they get the mix to their car, the mix is over exaggerated. Making it sound like poop.

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  Pƙed 6 lety +6

      Yeeeessss. Totally.

    • @TheGiftof7PRESENTS
      @TheGiftof7PRESENTS Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Joe Gilder Music
      Also two other factors :
      1.) Is the room properly treated? (Diffusers, Basstraps, sound absorption)
      1a.) Monitor placement
      2.) Some people just don’t have a good ear for mixing, you can teach what the tools do : eq/compression/reverb/delay, etc,. (hardware or plugins), mixing broad (faders/panning), explain frequency of what certain voices or instruments “fall in”.... yet if a person doesn’t have a ear, their mixes won’t come out right.
      IMHO, you can teach someone how to produce/arrangement & songwriting....but either you have a ear for mixing or you don’t.

    • @aibrainlet8041
      @aibrainlet8041 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      ldg_ 7th nah thats not true at all. That doesnt even make sense, how could you percieve music like the rest of us if your ears are "off". Also, it comes down to alot of different things but the main thing is, you should mix in the studio with monitors AND comercial grade equipment. Not only that but a wide range of commercial systems. Earbuds, over ear headphones, bluetooth speakers, sound systems etc. Your music is going to be listened to a variety of commerical grade equipment, not just sound nerds through flat settings all the time. You need to learn how different speakers color your mix and only then can you hear how you want things to sound when everything is flat. Quincy jones was known to test his mixes through tinny radio speakers just to make sure it still had its character as it did through monitors.

    • @TheGiftof7PRESENTS
      @TheGiftof7PRESENTS Pƙed 6 lety

      Jake Ybarra
      Maybe perhaps you should re-read my post, I spoke of room treatment, not ANYWHERE did I say professional grade equipment isn’t required
      Seeing that you brought up equipment and somewhere felt as if I’m speaking from inexperience’s....
      My Studio A :Mix Room/Post Production
      1.) Mac Pro
      2.) Apogee Symphony IO
      3.) Dangerous Music 2-BUS LT
      4.) Dangerous Music Monitor ST
      5.) Monitors :
      5a.) Focal CMS 40’s
      5b.) ADAM A3X
      5c.) ADAM A7X
      5d.) ADAM Sub-7
      *6.) The room is acoustical treated from the building of the rooms (there’s a Studio B also), from insulted walls, solid core doors, to floating floor, the wiring, the room being on its own two separate surge protectors for the rooms, insulation in the ceiling which is pre-wired for 7.2 Dolby ATMOS mixing).
      7.) 4 Monster Power Pro 2500 surge protectors.
      8.) Sound absorption, diffusers and bass traps.
      Again, someone can know and have professional grade equipment but not have a ear for mixing itself. They can know the Technologies but when sitting in the sweet spot with the best equipment and the best room but might not be able to mix to save their life....
      Again buying equipment and KNOWING the educational stuff doesn’t mean they can “hear” what sounds good as a mix. It’s not a knock just a fact.... or some mixers just aren’t good at mixing various genres but are GREAT at one or two.

    • @TheGiftof7PRESENTS
      @TheGiftof7PRESENTS Pƙed 6 lety

      Jake Ybarra
      You brought up Quincy Jones who’s my #1 producer/songwriter/composer/arranger/musician along with Burt Bacharach 1a. Those gentlemen are music producers like Prince & Stevie Wonder...a different breed. Also, putting Ryan Leslie/D.J. Quick in there.
      Then you take someone like Micheal Jackson, Puffy, Dr. Dre, Jermaine Dupree, D.J. Premier....
      All great Artist and Producers in their own right, great ears...they know how to bring the right elements together, arrangement and even composition on some levels....
      But perhaps they don’t play instruments at all, nor read music, some of their productions/mixes “might” not come across as polished as the ones that are musicians and can read music, because sonically they aren’t hearing things like a producer who’s also a musician.... that’s all I’m saying.
      Again, you teach someone what to listen for....but it’s different and difficult to teach someone how to “hear”.

  • @RokhartMusic
    @RokhartMusic Pƙed 2 lety +1

    You’ve shone the bright light of truth on my musical journey Joe!
    I’ve tried everything that you mention and you made me laugh 😂
    But I’m still plodding through. Thanks for all your advice common sense đŸ‘đŸŽ¶đŸ˜Š

  • @tor8068
    @tor8068 Pƙed 4 lety

    Dude- Thank you so much for putting this channel up- your videos are helping me enormously, I Have learned so much from watching how you do your recordings the last few weeks, and now understand why my stuff stands to improve tremendously thanks to your GIRATS concept, and yeah - i never got it right at the source.

  • @apostlell
    @apostlell Pƙed 5 lety +6

    1:05 Priceless Look đŸ˜‚đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚ totally been there

  • @DaleBerry
    @DaleBerry Pƙed 6 lety +34

    Video starts at 2:00

  • @larissasaraiva.8375
    @larissasaraiva.8375 Pƙed 4 lety

    LOVED LOVED LOVED THIS VIDEO! YOU JUST GOT YOURSELF A NEW SUBSCRIBER ✹

  • @rman4539
    @rman4539 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    number one secret that changed my mixing skills : reference tracks ! I always have reference tracks in my daw when i produce / mix / master, it helps A LOT to not be in a "subjective perfect bubble "

  • @starwars007oele
    @starwars007oele Pƙed 6 lety +22

    The reason is that you spend your money in the studio, not on a car! Greetz

  • @iOWNyouFOOLaskYOmama
    @iOWNyouFOOLaskYOmama Pƙed 4 lety +5

    I mix my songs without listening to it. They always come out great. 😂

  • @rjreddenbaker4351
    @rjreddenbaker4351 Pƙed 2 lety

    Have watched many of your vids and this is my favorite. Had me laughing and learning all at the same time. Today I learned my truck stereo may be loud but that does not necessarily mean good. Thanks Joe!

  • @Robil63
    @Robil63 Pƙed 2 lety

    Absolutely invaluable advice, thanks bro.

  • @MunasheMatemadanda
    @MunasheMatemadanda Pƙed 6 lety +58

    Actually it might be that you mix your songs in stereo which may sound good to the ears in your studio because of the monitors and whatever so when you are in your car the mix is coming to you in mono as you sit closely to one of the speaker the trick here ladies and gentleman is to mix in mono. Thank me later

    • @quatricise
      @quatricise Pƙed 6 lety +6

      that sounds like a quote from that guy from recordingevolution

    • @Ratelzwatel
      @Ratelzwatel Pƙed 6 lety +2

      - Yes, mix in mono.
      - And when making a stereo mix, convert that stereo mix to mono to review any problems that will show up when the stereo mix is played on mono equipment. There might even be phasing issues, canceling signals when the stereo channels are combined in one channel.
      - Also when making a stereo mix, review each of the channels individually. Do they miss important signals when the other channel is missing? This might help for situations where the stereo placement of speakers is less than ideal.

    • @samtheinsaneshred
      @samtheinsaneshred Pƙed 6 lety +1

      It's not imperative to mix in mono, CLA has always said he never mixes in mono. It's all about what works best for you

    • @Ratelzwatel
      @Ratelzwatel Pƙed 6 lety +2

      At least, always check how a stereo mix sounds on mono equipment.

    • @samtheinsaneshred
      @samtheinsaneshred Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Ratelzwatel Oh definitely, if you've got the option then it does you no harm

  • @FBi_.
    @FBi_. Pƙed 6 lety +5

    Try to make sure ur decibel's aren't too high

  • @soundroomstudios7318
    @soundroomstudios7318 Pƙed 6 lety

    you are so good ...its soooooo down to earth

  • @mdmn8160
    @mdmn8160 Pƙed rokem

    I love your humor and comedy at the start of the video

  • @MustafaAlbazy
    @MustafaAlbazy Pƙed 6 lety +4

    It's definitely a faulty iPhone adapter :D .. Anyway I'll add also to mix others people music this help alot, and not just that but master mixes done by others.

  • @passpace10
    @passpace10 Pƙed 6 lety +111

    Mix in mono, problem solved

    • @AstrologyGames
      @AstrologyGames Pƙed 6 lety

      passpace10 even vocals?

    • @jtan484
      @jtan484 Pƙed 6 lety +14

      The Polygamist If you want your vocals to sit well in the middle of the mix, they should be in mono

    • @jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888
      @jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@jtan484 soo your saying switch to mono on vocals not stereo

    • @TheHirade
      @TheHirade Pƙed 5 lety +7

      @@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888 by default, vox should always be on a mono track

    • @jenhmusic3768
      @jenhmusic3768 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888 vocals are alwayss in mono

  • @yrkobeats8966
    @yrkobeats8966 Pƙed 4 lety

    Your videos are great man! Lol made my morning.

  • @CjDWIZ
    @CjDWIZ Pƙed 2 lety

    Beautiful Explanation Champ! Funny Skit too!

  • @desaoaraujo
    @desaoaraujo Pƙed 6 lety +6

    Christmas tiiiiime is heeeeeere...

  • @stoneagealienz874
    @stoneagealienz874 Pƙed 6 lety +4

    Why does your car have a ringmodulator ? :D

  • @DjRustyProductions
    @DjRustyProductions Pƙed 2 lety

    Nothing but facts. All spot on. Thank you!

  • @DebErney
    @DebErney Pƙed 5 lety

    Great advice and information.

  • @Alexander-mk4qf
    @Alexander-mk4qf Pƙed 5 lety +18

    i know why your mixes are sound bad..look at your room and your speakers...wtf is going on

  • @DanielMoscarda
    @DanielMoscarda Pƙed 6 lety +10

    oh man, I was watching myself in this video..hihihi
    Like

  • @danardalin
    @danardalin Pƙed 4 lety +2

    I find I have setup time in my studio prior to getting to work on recording or mixing. Moving gear around... changing cables, general clean up or organization, etc.
    During this time I usually will listen to some music on my studio system. Not just for the entertainment but also to acclimate my ears to the room and the sound system.

  • @jimmypeartree
    @jimmypeartree Pƙed 3 lety

    HOLY SHIT JOE đŸ˜± at this exact point, your video was a game changer đŸ™đŸŒ
    SUBSCRIBED !!!
    Thank you đŸ‘ŒđŸŒ

  • @yawpaw9796
    @yawpaw9796 Pƙed 4 lety +8

    3:08 Solution: simply listen to darksideofthemoon and immediatly go back to your mix

    • @godofspacetime333
      @godofspacetime333 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I generally use Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, but I wouldn’t argue with Dark Side of the Moon. If you’re making any kind of rock record those are two of the best sounding albums you could find. Mellon Collie is pretty bass heavy, but it has the added benefit of having a wide range of musical styles so it’s particularly good as a reference.

    • @yawpaw9796
      @yawpaw9796 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@godofspacetime333 Thanks pal, will give it a shot!
      Edit: mellon has some 350-400hz bump. Try billie jean(@pasadena march 25 1983)

  • @BizzyMo
    @BizzyMo Pƙed 6 lety +21

    - Know how to Mix/ Master: Bass

    • @TheGiftof7PRESENTS
      @TheGiftof7PRESENTS Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Bizzy Mo
      Also two other factors :
      1.) Is the room properly treated? (Diffusers, Basstraps, sound absorption)
      1a.) Monitor placement
      2.) Some people just don’t have a good ear for mixing, you can teach what the tools do : eq/compression/reverb/delay, etc,. (hardware or plugins), mixing broad (faders/panning), explain frequency of what certain voices or instruments “fall in”.... yet if a person doesn’t have a ear, their mixes won’t come out right.
      IMHO, you can teach someone how to produce/arrangement & songwriting....but either you have a ear for mixing or you don’t.

  • @sun_catchers_music
    @sun_catchers_music Pƙed 6 lety

    Good video, useful ideas and also funny to watch!

  • @grunge2012
    @grunge2012 Pƙed 6 lety

    Love this video. Hope u have a great day joe

  • @homeschooledrapper9174
    @homeschooledrapper9174 Pƙed 6 lety +13

    'Life is one big disappointment'

  • @SavHabitz
    @SavHabitz Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Instructions not clear enough I just bought a new truck with a system in it....

  • @PherotoneStudios
    @PherotoneStudios Pƙed 6 lety

    Surely everyone has been in this exact situation. Years ago I also had issues trying to get mixes sounding good on my Bose dock as that unit is rather bass-heavy. This video is invaluable and also entertaining

  • @RealHomeRecording
    @RealHomeRecording Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Sonarworks Reference and before it IK Multimedia ARC helped a lot with mix translation and recording better tracks. Good video, Joe!

  • @inwex8350
    @inwex8350 Pƙed rokem +5

    Does mixing in general make y'all depressed af?

  • @todholighyam1161
    @todholighyam1161 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    Your voice sounds like James Hetfield's voice :v

  • @AymanKhalifa
    @AymanKhalifa Pƙed 6 lety

    Great VID Joe .. Thanks for sharing the info., but that make me really wonder what's the crucial use of the studio monitor if at some point it can lie on us

  • @jonathanmendez310
    @jonathanmendez310 Pƙed 5 lety

    This was extremely helpful! Especially the listening to other mixes

  • @BigDangerousDan
    @BigDangerousDan Pƙed 6 lety +4

    Haha......every time!!!

  • @koolaidkolten9427
    @koolaidkolten9427 Pƙed 6 lety +3

    My car has ass speakers lol

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  Pƙed 6 lety

      Haha. Mine too

    • @SpaceboyBilliards
      @SpaceboyBilliards Pƙed 6 lety

      Ford Taurus has the worst speakers. They sound different every time you turn the car on. Some days the bass is too heavy and some days the bass is non existent. I even tested it by playing the same file on different days through the same source (aux). Kept car audio settings the same and my phone audio settings the same. No matter what, they always sound too quiet, too tinny, and way too muffled. Not muddy. But muffled.

    • @williemo44
      @williemo44 Pƙed 6 lety

      A good mix will sound good on crappy speakers. A poor mix sounds crappy on all speakers.

  • @queenmarryrymbai3571
    @queenmarryrymbai3571 Pƙed 6 lety

    Yeah it happen to me too .....love this tuturial

  • @mixdownonline
    @mixdownonline Pƙed 6 lety

    You ROCK Joe!

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate Pƙed 6 lety +20

    The real answer is that almost everyone has no idea what they're doing and are too lazy to find out and most likely have never really succeeded at anything because they're incompetent. For those that aren't incompetent, unfortunately, the information is so scattered on CZcams that someone would have to watch dozens of the correct videos to know a quarter of the essentials. Also, most everyone can't afford much more than the computer they have to mix on. My advice is to motivate yourself to really try, for once, to be good at something. Then you'll start committing to put in real effort. Expect to invest hundreds of hours...yes, hundreds. Don't like the truth? Then this isn't for you.

    • @Ryan_Wiseman
      @Ryan_Wiseman Pƙed 6 lety +1

      What do you think isn't covered by these channels, I'm curious.

    • @matrixate
      @matrixate Pƙed 6 lety

      RyanWisemanMusic You would have to watch them all to find out. That's my point.

    • @Ryan_Wiseman
      @Ryan_Wiseman Pƙed 6 lety

      I'm asking what you wish to see. The essentials one needs to know varies on the artistic voice of the person. People do spend 100s of hours on this craft and it takes this time to improve. The journey doesn't have to be nearly as painful and I'm curious to what topics should be covered outside of sound design (because this topic has been covered extensively and I'm not worried about the lack of sound design tutorials in the nearby future).

    • @matrixate
      @matrixate Pƙed 6 lety +1

      What I think should be covered in an "essentials" video is going to be nothing more than a subjective viewpoint. It cannot cover every genre because what one does for mixing rap, isn't the same as one mixing orchestral, and so on. The art of mixing is better presented in a multi-part series by one producer that knows the physics of sound, engineering of mixing and mastering, and has the gift of translation; this is assuming that everyone has some form of music theory. That person...does not exist and most people going into this have no formal music theory training. I believe, one can still learn the craft crippled by lack of music theory but basic elements of song making can become second nature by simply practicing and learning from experience. So, back to my point...the information is scattered. My advice is to seek knowledge from reputable sources beginning with university textbooks. Look for them on Amazon. You won't learn everything from a book but you will learn what NOT to do. Don't spend money on plugins unless you know how to use stock ones really well and have already created something good with them.
      But yea...a series. I consider myself an intermediate-advanced user in this craft. I do have degrees in mathematics and physics, 30 years of composing and music theory and I still am learning. Although, what I learn is mostly techniques not really something that I didn't already know. I have to admit, knowing physics really takes a lot of the guesswork out of the technical aspects that destroy great mixes. Math skills help know what my sound is doing because most of mixing is just a function of time.

    • @Ryan_Wiseman
      @Ryan_Wiseman Pƙed 6 lety

      TheChosenOne As someone with more traditional training and is in university for a degree in this (recording arts and singer/songwriter), the merits you assign to this teacher is absurd.
      There is a lot to be taught in terms of stock plug ins, but there are many limitations including lack of a solid multiband compressor. There are great stock plug ins that exist. You could teach an entire course on Logic's Alchemy.
      At some point I'd love to address people's questions in videos. There is loads of content to make outside of showing people how to make a DAW. You can also make videos on helping people make viable melodies for EDM production.
      I'm curious to what you struggle with as a genuine question. I don't care about how this is all subjective, I'm curious to what YOUR concerns are

  • @ussi
    @ussi Pƙed 6 lety +5

    What is this white dad music?

  • @tahmetaylor4595
    @tahmetaylor4595 Pƙed 3 lety

    That was hilarious! I have definitely been there and you recreated that scene so very well. Kudos

  • @tilleyroadaffairproduction6752

    Love IT!!!! Thank you!

  • @tintiny3910
    @tintiny3910 Pƙed 4 lety

    simple and easy tips here, thanks!

  • @alexxchavezee
    @alexxchavezee Pƙed 6 lety

    reaaaaaaly solid advice. thanks Joe, you gave me many things to think about and i'm better because of you. What I'm going to do immediately after commenting is subscribing, liking and turning alerts on.

  • @oldiezz7605
    @oldiezz7605 Pƙed 6 lety

    Definitely subscribing. Your one of the few people who actually talk about this part of mixing

  • @tokyrandriambololonirinaMG

    So funny at the beginnning! I like this video. Thanks for your advices!

  • @PhilipThrosselMusic
    @PhilipThrosselMusic Pƙed 6 lety

    This is such a great video. Thank you so much! You deserved my like!

  • @touchthemusic9618
    @touchthemusic9618 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    using reference tracks though out the production, mix and mastering process is a game changer . More important than the monitoring enviroment in my experience.

  • @tialeqs9978
    @tialeqs9978 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you so much!

  • @AngelGabriel-rg7vl
    @AngelGabriel-rg7vl Pƙed 6 lety

    defiantly great advice ! and you are right about mixing. I play guitar very well for many years. But to mix is much harder than just playing. Thank you for great advice!

  • @halunkarecord
    @halunkarecord Pƙed 5 lety +2

    you are 100% correct my friend. here are some tips to improve the mix
    1.use fewer instruments or sounds to reduce phase issues
    2.cut the low end on the instruments to improve clarity
    3.practice proper panning techniques to designate particular instrument placement
    4.use sidechain compressor/limiters to give priority to the most important part of the track
    5.learn which sounds should be stereo separated and which should be merged.
    6.watch the master meter to prevent clipping
    7.take breaks and give your ears and mind a pallet cleanse
    8.compare you mix to other well mixed and mastered songs within the same genera
    9.make multiple mixes and apply the parts of the mixes you like into a final mix
    10.don't let your personal preference compromise a perfect mix
    11.listen to criticism you may have overlooked something important
    12.leave a couple of dBs of room so the mastering effects do not put the mix past 0dB
    13.keep it simple
    BONUS TIP!!! (this only applies to those who will be composing the arrangement, mixing it and mastering all by themselves)
    APPLY YOUR MASTERING EFFECTS FROM THE BEGINNING BEFORE YOU START THE MUSICAL COMPOSITION!! this will keep you from having to remix the levels after mastering.

  • @miguelpereaantonetti7576
    @miguelpereaantonetti7576 Pƙed 4 lety

    Great Video. ThankÂŽs

  • @LonetrackTV
    @LonetrackTV Pƙed 6 lety

    Hey man I love your channel. Keep it up!

  • @BMAN818
    @BMAN818 Pƙed 5 lety

    OMG this was a BIG help I had the same problem thx again for explaining this, I understand I thought I was going MAD..... Thank you.

  • @theguyfromberlin
    @theguyfromberlin Pƙed 5 lety

    so true. you nailed it.

  • @Jayswainthecreator
    @Jayswainthecreator Pƙed 5 lety

    i love this video !

  • @buhimoth
    @buhimoth Pƙed 6 lety

    #2 is a great point, I’ve recently been using songs I love for their production as references, almost to the point of copying them! But it’s mainly just for me to improve my mixing!

  • @WoodwindSpirit
    @WoodwindSpirit Pƙed rokem

    Thank you! ❀❀❀ As someone who always loved to play instruments, I started a CZcams channel some months ago, just for the joy of making music and sharing it with others. I began to record myself just with a usb mic and Audacity 😄, suddenly hearing all my mistakes in flute playing (it's so true what you mentioned in point 4), thus getting better with every step. Then, some weeks ago, my way lead me to my first DAW. It was like "woooow, I don't have to use so much real instruments anymore!" 😄 And now everything seems more complicated BUT also more joyful than ever. I made (and will make) lots of mistakes along my way, still standing at the very beginning. Watching my stuff from a few months ago is all other than a pleasure 😂, because I have developed. It is so exciting to see how one's own demands increase with one's ability to do so.
    When I have finished a recording/video, I listen to my mixes on different devices (mobile, headphones, speaker, TV, etc.), for me this function best and saves me from nervous breakdowns. 😂
    Thanks for all the tips to Sudio One, you are helping me a lot. :)
    Lovely greetings, Meike

  • @esadcazimovic3193
    @esadcazimovic3193 Pƙed 6 lety

    its the honesty is why I am going to subscribe!

  • @computergurujp
    @computergurujp Pƙed 4 lety

    Great advice! Other way around for me since my car has Focal Utopia and my home studio is just head phones lol.

  • @Frazer777
    @Frazer777 Pƙed 5 lety

    Using a good reference track while mixing always helps me. I use a song I don't even really like which allows me to concentrate on the sonic qualities rather than the song. No matter how many times I've mixed tunes it still amazes me how your ears can adjust and 'wander off' down a path that's a million miles away from solid, great sound...

  • @matthewdearstreaming
    @matthewdearstreaming Pƙed 6 lety

    Ha! Amazingly accurate intro. I’ll share that with my loved ones who have witnessed this firsthand.