Ronnie James Dio - Singers Then And Now (With Singing Tutorial) - Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy
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- In this video, we celebrate the vocal career of Ronnie James Dio, one of my all-time favorite singers! Come along and let's enjoy Ronnie!
Ronnie James Dio - Singers Then And Now
The goal of this series is not to make fun of people, to show a picture of them in their youth and then mock them in their older age.
The goal is to showcase how voices have sustained over time. And who has taken care of their voices and who hasn't, and what was the result. And what could've been done differently for those that did not take care of the voices.
Could they have sustained their voices? And can they be rehabilitated now? Some singers (few) are just gifted with great genes and have been able to sustain their voices on their own. This is a rare exception. The rest of us mere mortals have to work at it, just like we have to work at our voices to get range, pitch, power, control, longevity, stamina, and so forth.
In addition, it's just really cool to check out the incredible careers of these artists and marvel at their singing.
So today, we are looking at none other than Mr. Ronnie James Dio!
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I saw him I believe in 05. I was amazed at his vocals. He was definitely on that night. To think he was singing night after night with stomach cancer is just simply amazing. He must've been hurting and there must've been struggles with the voice. I believe he is one the greatest vocalists of all time.
I really don't think he was dealing with stomach cancer in '05. It was actually while touring with Heaven and Hell in 2009 that he stopped long enough to see a doctor and was subsequently diagnosed with cancer.
To me, even in his later years Dio was a master at his craft. There will never be another metal singer as great as Ronnie James Dio. 🤘
Even Dio's "old" voice is so full of charisma and personality! He was one of those singers who had set the level unrechable for nowadays autotune & compression "superstars". Thanks Ken!
I love his voice back then and his older voice as well.👍👍👍
Me too and of course, we will never forget him for that.
Dio, Geoff Tate and Eric Adams are the most beautiful rock voices I have ever heard. So glad I have been able to see all of them over the years. What a blessing to my ears
Met Ronnie and Wendy once. Very gracious, intelligent people. I miss Ronnie, what a voice! ❤
I saw Dio only once, with Heaven & Hell (the reunion of Black Sabbath with him). What an awesome live performer he was! That night, his tone, dynamics and pitch were spot on. One of the best rock/metal voices ever… if not simply the best. 🤘
Ronnie James Dio had a lot of breath support that must be learned.
Trumpet playing helped with that, no doubt!
@@kentamplin sir, please make Phil Anselmo from Pantera Then and Now. Thank you
The best singer imo. He's the epitome of a "rock" voice to me. Love this series btw.
Oh, I loved Ronnie's singing.He used to give me chills listening to him live at concerts. I couple things I noticed is the equipent used over the years. When he was playing in the 70's and some 80's, they used tube base equipment which has a brighter and clearer sound. I did noticed his change in voice as he got older but live footage is hard to gage unless you are listening to the sound of the mixing board and depends on who is doing the mixing and their taste. This part Ken you know very well as I don't. Even giving us decades of outstanding vocals he will be forever known for the horns. 🤘All this said, RIP Ronnie !
THE RAINBOW & THE LIGHT! 🌈💡
Dio is just the epitome of great vocals & showmanship! Nobody tells a story through song, like he did!!!
He commanded the stage, the delivery & his vocal prowess is legendary as well as respected & often imitated by so many singer’s that he has directly influenced over the year’s! RJD is & will alway be held in the highest esteem in any & every Rock n Roll fan’s & rock dreamer’s heart’s, for years & years to come! There’s only one RJD! 🤘
Got to see Ronnie with rainbow up close back in the day... Dude could sing... But never my favorite ... Still he deserves much respect. Much respect to you my friend for all your knowledge ... Maybe you'd like to talk about Ian Anderson one day.... Tull has given me so much joy. And God bless Ian for not caring about critics and still singing... Still...
He is the greatest. I heard him with heaven and hell less than a year before his death. He sounded great. That particular concert he was sick.
Really a fantastic character, certainly along with Rob Halford had a lot to do with the way Hard Rock clean Metal vocals developed, they really mark a before and after (like Plant, Gillan, or say Aretha Franklin)
What always captivates me about performers of his caliber is how they adapt. I find his later years to be more narrative focused, songs like "The devil cried" and "Follow the tears" are just inmense journeys where the few dents in his voice only give a strong sense of urgency to the message. And I agree there is a certain decline, but only with regard to himself, he could easily top just about anyone else. Which actually might be the reason for said decline, such a high standard to maintain over so long (and yet, all his performances are captivating to the end of his career even with the few issues here and there)
Dio really is the embodiment of determination and hard work; to me like Lemmy, they are people who whether you like them (I do) or not, it's hard not have respect for that level of commitment.
I think this breakdown is something worth coming back to quite a few times, it's like a good book; also quite excited about the new documentary will be on the lookout for it :)
Yeah that Mob Rules intro was absolutely incredible when he screams “Oh Come ON!!”
It blows me away that Dio was 37 turning 38 when Heaven And Hell came out in 1980. Dude was/is proof that if you take care of yourself age doesn't matter.
38
He s born 1942, recording artist and singer since 1955.
To hear the difference between 2002 and 2005 was sad....but kudos to the effort he put out despite his ailments .....a consummate performer and yes i agree ken ,one of the best vocalists in rock!
Its an off night.
There s others 2005 live and 2006 that are better than that
But still , the london still a great live.
Dark, heavy and raunchy .
Check him in 2007 or 2009 with Heaven & Hell. He sounds awesome.
I had the opportunity to see Dio live during his Last in Line tour. It was in December and a snow storm was coming in. I was the first one to show up and they let me in early. I got front center on the barricade. Roughly 500 people showed up and he still made it to the coliseum to perform. It was more of a personalized performance and it was awesome. He really interacted with the crowd and sang some songs that were not on his set list. Great night.
Interestingly, his voice got better again in the late 00's, when he was touring with Heaven and Hell. Obviously nothing like the 80's but definitely better than 2005.
That's what I was thinking. That radio City Hall show with heaven and hell sounds better than this stuff from 2005
I agree, RJD had the the ultimate hard rock/heavy metal voice!
I imagine it would be incredibly difficult to maintain his signature “growl” for all those years. So kudos to him for being able to keep doing live shows for decades. 🤘🎸🎤
I didn't know there was a name for Old Man Voice. Even so, Dio will forever be in my top three. He was amazing and untouchable in his prime and didn't ever get to where he couldn't sing at all. He was so loved I think it didn't matter.
He was around for a long time! He was 20 in pre-Beatles 1962! He was maybe 35 in the '77 clip. In 2002 he would have been 60-ish. I'm not a big fan of this style of music but I gotta say, the dude could still do for a guy with his medical, mileage, and age! Cool Vid.
Even with stomach cancer and his age he had an absolutely outstanding voice and I love him
Your spot on Ken but like you said he was & is the greatest metal vocalist of all time. I have all his music & he is sorely missed & definitely never forgotten. ❤️
Ronnie was simply the greatest and is the greatest hard rock metal singer of all time there'll be nobody next to him ❤️🙏
I loved his older voice too! It was so unique
Love Ronnie, and honestly I love his band Elf more than any other projects. His voice was brighter than in his later years - and they were just a great old school Rock and Roll band.
Hey Ken! RJD! Great rocker. Hoping everyone turns their volume knobs up for worldwide unity.☮💜😎
Man, I honestly Love Ronnie's older voice as much as I do in his prime, He had more voice than most people could even ask for half of, Rip RJD 🤘🏻
Ken you are the man! I loved this video!!! RJD was THE BEST.
Any way you could do a Then And Now on Glen Campbell? I thought it was unbelievable how long he kept it together even in the throws of Alzheimer's disease. R.I.P. RJD!!!!
Few know this, but in an interview, RJD said that Raindow in Dark was one of his least favorite songs, but he recognized the crowds loved it so sang it anyway.
Ronnie has his own piedestal. So many great, epic rockers out there, that probably never would've been without this mans craft 🧡. I found myself laughing, watching this other channel, analysing, worshipping there new found idol, Ronnie...when she suddenly says "who would've believed, that me, being a trained opera singer, would go round, doing the typical Ronnie "horn signs"? 🤔😆🤭. Gave me the giggles. Oh yeah, also...Man his older voice freightens me...in the right way tho. Respect for Ronnie 🤧🙏❤
I saw him during the Sacred Heart tour. I agree that he was the best metal vocalist. His stuff in Rainbow, Sabbath, and Dio were magnificent.
He was pretty amazing. Certainly, in his later years, his voice changed. It was really cool to see him in concert with Black Sabbath, under Heaven and Hell name, just before he passed. He was pretty damn good, even though he had been fighting cancer, didn't seem to slow him down.
Me being 60 I lived during the time of the greatest rockers.
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Like every artist worth their salt, RJD, always strutted and evolved as he lived through the years. Love or hate his penchant for D and D rock, his voice is incredible.
I love Dio like we all do. He actually released recordings before Hendrix. That's a long career. You can hear him say in the famous bus interview that he didn't believe much in eating or sleeping. He never warmed up. Plus he drank and partied. I think that as time went on he lost range and brightness. It would have been nice to see him keep his abilities completely in tact. But Elf, Rainbow, Black Sabbath and Dio. It was an amazing, beautiful career. Still it's something to think about. Someone who most people agree is the best hard rock metal vocalist ever eventually had troubles. Speaking for myself I'd like to keep what little I have as long as I can.
Great video! Im so grateful to have been able to meet him in 2009. He was sweetest man and so gracious to his fans.
7:00 I agree 100% As a total Dio fan, I say, that he ran into voice problems in his later years. One reason beside some stomach issues, wher stomach acid can damage a voice for sure, he had obviously some dental surgeries. At all his upper frontal teeth are renewed. This has an impact on his voice for sure.
EDIT: It also sounds as if his sinuses got tighter over time.
Spot on, mate. Absolutely the greatest I have ever heard live.
Was waiting for this!
Once again another stunning vocal comparison that only you can do! You never disappoint, thank you!
I hear exactly what you mean as far as Ronnie having more of a " darker sound ". I realize you are limited to what you can use on these vids . What I will say however is I saw him in 2002 at the house of blue in Anaheim ( with Kings X and HammerFall ) . Dio absolutely blew the roof of the place . Every song was dead on . So much power . Didn't miss a note . Also I saw him go on before Maiden in 2003 same story . I thought he stole the show . Also when he reformed Black Sabbath ( Heaven and Hell as they were forced to be called 😂 / it was amazing regardless ).I've heard so much criticism from my peers ( musicians in the local scenes ) . The biggest criticism every older singer gets is " he isn't as good with high notes " . Well , I truly believe people get tone and pitch completely confused . His tone became thicker , raspier , more throaty and dare I say gutteral in his latter days . However I preferred that era . All the footage I've found and the times I've seen Dio he was on it .All to say I truly enjoyed this then and now shoot out with the late great phenom . In closing u r dead on . There will never ever be another Ronnie James Dio . Plenty of copies but they don't come close .
Ken, Ronnie was at his high in the 80"s yes... his health and voice deminished in the early 2000. rock star, never the less!I know you were in awe of him.... Rock On !!!!!
Yay-ahh! Thanks for this video today, Sir Ken! I absolutely love Ronnie James Dio's voice& I agree with you that his voice is definitely top shelf amongst other vocalists for that genre. It's in the upper eschalon for heavy metal singers, for sure! I've been listening this past week to the Holy Diver album, specifically the songs "Invisible" & "Don't Talk to Strangers" & what a magical contribution to music Ronnie was & will always be! I really liked the way you let all the clips of his singing roll at the end in continuous succession. You could really hear the changes in his voice over time as you had described! Excellent content & coverage & thanks for making my Friday rock! Peace out!
Yes Dio is , was , and always will be the best!! Awesome video Ken! Thanx for this one. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Dio made so many fantastic performances, so I'll forgive him that he had spent the most of his vocal force a few years before the end. There will never be a singer like him on this planet again! Thanks, Ken for a very interesting video! 🤘
Excellent feedback on a true true rock legend . I saw Dio on August 18th 1984 on a fantastic Summer night in Quebec City and what a great concert that was. The man was in great shape that night and the band rocked like there is no tomorrow. Vivian Campbell was at the top of his game during that time.
Ken, Thanks once again for an excellent analysis. Appreciate your knowledge base and sharing this material.
Ken...love this format....love the channel!
This is a great, interesting series.
G'day Ken. so glad you've done a video on Ronnie :)
-A wonderful analysis and tribute to the Master. Cheers!!
Yeeees. Wonderful idea, and thanks for doing finally Dio. And I'm sorry, what happened to your videos
Great analysis as always Ken!
Mr. Dio was pure rock and roll! One of the greats.
Dio was for sure the best, I like Bruce Dickinson more for different reasons, but I cannot contest Dio's command of the stage and the insane vocal range he had for so many years. Even Dickinson looked up to Dio. His death was a true tragedy. A true legend and, hot take, the best Black Sabbath singer!
It's great!!! Excellent!!!!!!!
Thanks for this moment
Greetings from Mexico 🤟🤘
Great video as always! I really find this series very interesting. I would love to hear you do one of these videos for Dennis Deyoung.
Hello Ken, I love your reaction because we learn something new every time we watch your video.
Ken you are always respectful and do a good analysis.
Peace from Chicago
I absolutely love and adore Dio, in my opinion one of the greatest musicians i´ve ever heard and probably ever will hear. As i have said before Ken, i love and respect your honesty so much, because it is important to be honest, not only to yourself but also to other people, and not just mention all the good and exclude the less good/bad stuff. :)
I am absolutely in love with this series! It's so unfortunate that you weren't able to do it with the original videos u picked☹️
When are we going to see "Ken Tamplin Then and Now"? You rock man!
Like you said ken one of the best, if not the best singer in hard rock. I always felt the he was singing to us, not yelling at us. A very theatrical voice.
also, I think all the be-bop singing he did in the 50’s and 60’s before Elf helped his voice tremendously!!
I saw Dio In 1983 at the starry night now the roseland theatre.. them again at the same place again in 96. Where he asked if any of us there had beenat the 83 show I was the only one that said yes. Upon which time .he informed us that show was the very first time Dio had played live together.. both shows kicked ass.. the 80s were so fukn awesome to grow up in. My favorite concert I went to.. girls school opened for IRON MAIDEN number iof the beast opening for Scorpions Blackout. Sept. 7 1982 I was 15.. it was their 2nd stop of the tour. Fresh bands not yet burned out from the tour.. simply amazing... I miss the 80s was the last great decade . No cell phones ... Computers were just coming around.. it was the last time anyone was truly free
In our country... Such a simpler time. Weve gone backwards since then..
ronnie was in a class by himself , so powerful and majestic sounding , and in such a tiny package
Enjoyed this very much. Always great to see Rudy. He posted last year you were the real deal so of course I checked KTVA out. Joined your channel and eventually bought the course, i am a beginner but you do motivate me to try. You have a great voice. Thank you and have a great weekend!
Great choice!
I like it when you keep smiling brother Ken 🙂
Noone can reach to Ronnie!
He is the best 🤘
his solo career was so awesome. I like the heaven and hell and mob rules and Dehumanizer era too. Ronnie James Dio even though he's gone , he's still the best till this day. incredible performer and singer 🤘
Never listened much to Ronnie James dio either Ken didn't grow up listening to him or his music he was a awesome singer back then had great vocal pipes and great tones great rock voice the dude was a awesome singer such a great singer back in the day he has lost some of it as he has gotten older not as great as he used to be but he still rocking with the voice he still has or got left not as easy for him to sing and hit those notes anymore he has lost it some of it but he has struggled as he got older but still singing and holding up but anyway he was great then and ok now but besides that he is a awesome singer and always will be Ken 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I already commented but also wanted to add that Ken’s comments regarding “the bigger the voice, the harder it is to maintain” was a really interesting perspective that made a lot of sense. I feel Dio’s voice was based on the big vowels and powerful lines, whereas we can hear some of that in singers like Dickinson and Halford. But if you view their “Then and Now” videos, it’s more focused on screams where Dickinson held up very well. However, arguably Dio had the bigger “voice,” which really is probably much harder to maintain good technique and tone. Take away screams from Dickinson and Halford, you probably are left realizing they didn’t have the width to their voices as someone like Dio. He was a monster who as Ken said, he did a great job of “holding that massive voice together” up until the end. Definitely aged, but he made it work! What a performer
Everybody gets old dio is a legend best male vocalist hands down
Ronnie James Dio was the best voice of Metal of all times. The real king! Man i miss him R.I.P Dio!
Man he was such a force in the mid 80's. A force.
And it's amazing how amazing Doug is on that axe!!!!!! DAMN
Great choice
His voice is better later in his career than early in his career just my opinion
That show in 2005 - Ronnie had cold, but still did show and dvd, in his later dvds with sabbath in 2006 and 2008 he sounds much better.
Ronnie famously never warmed up, it worked for him, but maybe it would save his voice better if he did.
He was also smoker and beer drinker.
A lot of people don't know but Ronnie produced all his solo albums. No outside writers, no Desmond Child or Bob Rock. Genius. And my favorite singer too.
His dynamic range was incredible from softest tone to very powerful. My favorite parts in his songs are often soft ones, like beginning of "all the fools sail away".
Only few guys in rock use full dynamic range like that, Freddy also comes to mind.
I just love and admire dio so much. So sad, I can never see him live, but he and his music will live forever in our hearts. A giant voice in this small but majestic human. Thank you for all your stuff Ken. I helps a lot. I use your course in combination with CZcams. Great stuff. Greetings from Moscow
Also his storytelling is so unique and inspiring. Really hard to reach.
saw him several times was lucky enough to meet him lem blackie back in the 80-90s
Great video Ken what a powerhouse of a singer i think him and Halford are untouchable in the metal vocalist dept my favorite Ronnie vocal performance is Rainbow eyes LLRR
5:33 Ken I totally agree. Great Video :)
Ken! Rock n Roll Bro! Thank You Man!
Arguably Dio’s biggest vocal transition was when he joined Black Sabbath and that is when that more throaty growl appeared especially with the release of the album, Mob Rules. I think that is when he arrived at his Apex and had decided which direction vocally he would go as a solo artist.
Great videos as usual Ken. Thanks
Well in Elf and some rainbow studio stuff he was pretty dirty already.
In live, sometimes he was more open clear relaxed. Sometimes morz harsh.
With Sabbath, more harsh , because the voice became stronger and it was heavier so.
Then he filled after a decade of heritage.
Its the italian riff raff way , between the eyes.
Its the way Dio approached his performance.
Even with Dio band towards the 90's , or Sabbath in 1992, his voice became more corrosive.
Yet, the sound was bigger too.
I mean in songs like Pain , like before and after solo , you re like " Holy fucking shit !!!" The Roaar.
I have a couple live of heaven and all tour with bill ward
And its fucking scary.
Few elements could be extreme metal before its time, as Halford and Coverdale could do in grunts, growl
With all the love of the original, the dio version of that song on that tour is...agonizing feel and Scary as hell.
More creepy than the Ozzy version.
Seen him 10 times twice in Philly 84 and 86 the recorded shows was amazing saw him last in 2006.
im doing your course at a beginner level, now i get a blink of the future when i dont do what you teach. It is terrifying what could happen. Now i understand why you sledgehammer open throat and support stuff into your students. It is because of our own safety. So Thank you from my future me :D
Ronny! Holy Diver! Absolytly Holy Diver !
We Dive With Yor Universal Cosmic Voice in a miracle of Rock n Roll,
We Dive with the Man in a Silver Mountain!
God Bless You!
I am not musical whatsoever. Only way I carry a tune is in a bucket. Ha.
But man, you sure have taught me a lot in the few vidoes I've watched so far.
I can appreciate your critiques. You seem very fair and honest. Not ugly or jealous of all this talent. When you share with hitting notes, I'm very impressed!great pipes!
Im so glad I just stumbled onto this channel! So entertaining!!
The darker voice fit the heavier material he did with Heaven & Hell. I love the young, crisp “pinging” voice as well as the more gruff, dark aged voice. That’s why I think some people say he was as good in later years as when he was younger. Certainly aged, but it was a different performance with a different effect if you will. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks, Ken, I love me some R.J.Dio. He left us too early, but the magic he gave us is worth a lifetime.🤘
Awww I adore him sooo much. He is an absolute God of heavy metal.The greatest singer and songwrite. Ronnie was also a sweet and benevolent person, who doted upon his fans. He's forever in my heart. We all extremely miss Ronnie!😍🥰🥰💝❣️💖💕💓💓🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
For The 2005 versions of Man on the Silver mountain amd Rainbow in the Dark he had a really bad cold that night. I was there and got it from a very reliable source.
I think he just got better and better…seasoned.
Simply King of Rock&Roll.
Before DIO i knew nothing about rock and metal.
His vocal was the greatest of this occupation, he "is" the greatest in rock and metal world.
I am lucky that I became a rock&rolla and managed to listen DIO.
Too much to write about him but I am afraid CZcams comments can't handle that.
I would also like to see Blackie Lawless then and now if possible.
Besides that, thanks Ken for always bringing up high quality content. Stay healthy. 😊
You know that if Ronnie James Dio didn't get stomach cancer he would've been 80 years of today.
He had a fantastic voice all the fucking time from beginning to end.
I'm not the biggest fan of the "Dio" stuff but I love RJD's voice - so powerful
aahh yeah Ronnie rip....great jb...for working with what you got!!